Trump says ‘f***ing crazy’ Netanyahu has made everyone hate Israel in furious phone call – report
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/donald-trump-phone-call-netanyahu-crazy-lebanon-b2987671.html
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mp3@lemmy.ca · 153 pts · 84d
And it won't matter as long as Israel receives money and support from the US.
And I doubt the US will ever stop.
Sabin10@lemmy.world · 71 pts · 84d
Isreal is the best way to funnel billions of dollars back to American defense companies, of course it's not going to stop.
Taldan@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 83d
It also directly goes to politicians through AIPAC
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 84d
Israel*
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 83d
hasnt that been going on for decades. other convoluted ways is defense tech pipeline from universities that help israel down the line(tech degrees, engineering etc). its to FUND specifically POLITICIANS, which they cant just skim like PUTIN does with RUSSIA. Hakeem, slotkin, SCHUMER, FETTERMAN are recieving end of these funds.
MrNesser@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 83d
The USA has literally funded terrorist groups aka "freedom fighters" such as the IRA, the Taliban, and the Contras around the world for decades. Supporting a nuclear powered rogue state is nothing new unfortunatly
OrteilGenou@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 83d
Well... none of those are nuclear powered rogue states, so maybe somewhat new
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org · 2 pts · 83d
naah there's legitimate reason to believe that they will stop
for one, israel has mostly existed to pressure arab countries into giving the US oil. because no modern society functions without a lot of energy. now with renewable energy, that's significantly less important so i don't see why the US would go through all these hassles just to get energy.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 113 pts · 84d
He was told that Iran would fold quickly and it would be an easy win for his ego. It’s not happening, and even Fox News can’t sugarcoat the fuel crisis for months and months.
CannonFodder@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 84d
Now he's looking at Cuba for his 'win'.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club · 32 pts · 84d
Cuba was being planned well before the Iran War started.
elucubra@sopuli.xyz · 16 pts · 84d
You thought gas prices are bad? Just wait until sugarcane sugar skyrockets!
errer@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 84d
We don’t use any of that commie sugar in the US, all corn squeezins baybee
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 83d
Don't forget beets!
Leftover beet squeezings make great cow feed
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 83d
Huh? Cuba isn't much of a sugar cane producer. Not even one of the top 10. The US makes more. Brazil makes the most by a lot.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 83d
Same thing happened with Iraq.
We were told it would be a quick win, a month at most, and wouldn't cost more than a billion dollars.
L---O---L
Both Democrats and Republicans support this war, if not in word than in deed, and I fully expect it to last for years.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 83d
probably suggested by NETANYAHU, if you dont want these epstein files to be released, distract the public by attacking iran, and also benefiting us by giving us aid.
Someone8765210932@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 83d
I remember reading a news article about Lindsey Graham who aggressively pushed Trump to attack Iran, while traveling to Israel to get "coached" on how to sell this.
Honestly, the fact the Graham openly talks about this is just insane. I guess this shit isn't illegal, nor does it make people question you...
theacharnian@lemmy.ca · 85 pts · 84d
How about instead of Cuba you invade Israel Mr President? Now that would be something no president world ever have done. You would surely go down in history! I'm sure we can also come up with some kind of biggest penis peace prize for you.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 21 pts · 84d
And what, make it the 51st state? ☹️
theacharnian@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 84d
👐the best state👐
PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 83d
Now they can get representation in congress without the exorbitant bill they usually have to pay.
ZombieMantis@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 83d
We can keep it a territory, that's fine. They don't need to vote.
Besides, enforcing the Civil Rights act on them would be a delight to see.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 83d
No, the 52nd. The idea of a 51st state is ruined forever, we should just skip that number. Plus then it makes it real easy to split the states up into soccer teams
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 83d
Can't argue with this logic.
mlg@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 83d
Better than having it act as the head of DC.
einkorn@feddit.org · 44 pts · 84d
Wow, a rare moment of clarity for Trump?
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 84d
It's an unsourced alleged phone call from a British rag. I'm really not holding my breath on this one
Nick@mander.xyz · 26 pts · 84d
If it makes you feel better, it's not originally from a British rag, it's actually from White House mouthpiece Barak Ravid at Axios! The same "reporter" who's been edging the public for months about an Iran agreement being imminent to help manipulate the market every few days. So I'm sure it's true :)
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 84d
When you're so deep in your dementia, your delusions go full circle.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 83d
people with dementia to a get an air of clarity before falling back into dementia.
AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 83d
This article is thinly veiled pro-trump propoganda.
go_go_gadget@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 83d
And it works because Biden is a zionist piece of shit who also belongs in prison.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 83d
Baby throws tantrum.
Can we get a conservative to translate?
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 12 pts · 83d
fox, newsmax, oan, and many right wing pundits will not even report on this.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org · 22 pts · 83d
It's the Reagan moment where he figured out that he could tell them to stop for whatever they were doing and they stopped. Trump cares a lot about what people think. I would love it if he finds israel too toxic to support and cuts them off.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 82d
I'm hoping he's senile enough to lack the impulse control to bomb Bibi's house.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 78d
I fucking love it.
sirico@feddit.uk · 18 pts · 83d
You enabled it and got played
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 83d
America has been getting played by Israel since the 40s
Ilixtze@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 82d
Not at all, This genocide is all part of America's plan Israel is just doing the, dirty work.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 82d
I think if you asked a Joe Biden voter in 2021 "Are you excited to do genocide across the Levant for the next ten years?" they would not be enthusiastic.
Hell, even the Trumpies don't like our war with Iran (mostly because of gas prices, but still...)
The genocide is part of a Eugenics campaign cooked up by The Epstein Class. But so much of America is just along for the ride.
Ilixtze@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 82d
But American voters don't count in this equation because America is not a representative democracy. America is a bunch of corporations and arms dealers in a trench coat pretending to be a free democracy. Both political parties have had their part on the genocide. And It's Illegal for Americans (and increasingly Europeans) to do anything that matters against the programmed bloodshed. We have have been funding killing civilians for decades. We are just seen as a little piece of the machinery and they will just try to flood us with propaganda like the one on this article to keep us stalled while they continue their profitable mass murder.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 82d
A hard pill for the electoralists to swallow.
Okay, but you can't say that too loudly without being accused of shilling for an Evil Foreign Country.
Whataboutism!
SaltSong@startrek.website · 17 pts · 84d
Huh. I guess even Trump can't be wrong all the time.
Tja@programming.dev · 5 pts · 84d
Broken clock...
SaltSong@startrek.website · 4 pts · 84d
Blind squirrel...
Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 83d
He sniffed a baboon's ass, then got mad that he got shit on his nose.
Bwaz@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 83d
For once, he's not wrong. Though the exact same could be said about him & USA.
ProfessorScience@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 84d
We'll if that's not the pot calling the kettle black...
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 84d
Every so often, the man does or says something I wholeheartedly agree with.
This is one of those rare times.
Zaktor@sopuli.xyz · 17 pts · 84d
It's an unsourced anonymous leak that he can deny while giving crumbs of hope to the anti-Israel right that's been starting to turn on him.
palordrolap@fedia.io · 4 pts · 84d
Stopped clocks and all that.
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 83d
Surely now will be the time the US decides it's bad that they're doing genicide. We're totally not accomplices, it's this guy that's wacko.
saltesc@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 83d
One hundred thousand toddlers pointing to a lion, rhino, camel
"Lian...... Whino..... Camal!"
"Oh my god! This is the test Obama and Biden couldn't do. My kid will be President some day!"
Yeah, Benny is crazy. Literally everyone with basic cognitivity knows this. And for quite a long time. Those that support him are smart enough to have a money play from it and with their own disorders allowing for it, mainly psychopathy.
But, instead.. "That is indeed a camel, sir. Einstein would blush... No, sir, you aren't related to him and- .... oh, of course, sir........ Well, now we know who came up with camels as the name. Uncle Einstein's finest work, sir."
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 83d
Netanyahu turned Israel into Israpel.
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org · 4 pts · 83d
isn'trael
CyroSignal@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 83d
It's just a minor crisis, he'll forgive him.
OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 83d
Gee....I wonder why everyone hates Isreal?
It's a goddamn mystery, ain't it?
Ilixtze@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 82d
Lol this is low quality propaganda, and political circus, America is openly directing the genocide in Gaza and now Lebanon. Propaganda pieces like these are just mechanisms to wash trump's hands while the zionist butchers continue to do America's dirty work killing innocent civilians to take their land and resources.
This Axios propagandist Has made a career of writing the same piece over and over:
Barak Ravid on trump's angry call on 2026
Barak Ravid's article on Biden's angry call on 2024
Thelomer@feddit.org · 8 pts · 83d
Saledovil@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 83d
He's right. I used to think of Israel as just another country, and now I regard them the same way I regard North Korea.
CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 82d
Israel, Russia and the US is the new axis of evil
RottenHeads@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 84d
Might as well decimate the israelis Mr. Trump
the_armchair_potato@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 83d
And what does everyone think of America with Trump as their leader 😆😅. Entitled, ignorant cunt!!
Sunshine@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 83d
Aww, they match. ^_^
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 84d
The last time there was peace in the Middle East was with Mandatory Palestine, and it was a weak peace.
Chivera@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 82d
Sure he did then Netanyahu apologized and promised to do better.
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 83d
Something something both sides the exact same
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 2 pts · 82d
Hello Pot. My name is Kettle.
Ilixtze@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 82d
More like employer and thug. America sends money to Israel to do their genocide and half europe benefits from selling them weapons. Genocide economy baby!
SaraTonin@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 83d
Useful Idiot says what?
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · -20 pts · 84d
Sure, just like Biden every week.
What's more likely? Both presidents opposed Israel's actions, but decided to continue to illegally give them weapons and money for some fucking reason, or they supported them, but they have PR people capable of reading polls?
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 84d
Are you seriously trying to equate Trump with Biden?
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 84d
Yes. Stop acing like a fucking cultist. Numbers do not lie
During Biden
70% of all structures in Gaza were damaged or destroyed
92% of all housing units destroyed or damaged 88% of school buildings were damaged or destroyed
80% of key water, sanitation, and hygiene (WASH) facilities
Only 16 out of 36 hospitals were partially functioning, facing critical shortages of fuel, medicine, and clean water.
75% of agricultural land, including orchards and greenhouses, was damaged or destroyed
Biden lied about working on cease fire. He blamed hamas for the failure when the issue ws Israel. Both Trump and Biden bypassed thr congress teice to give more weapons to the terrorist state. The numbers of killed Palestinian was also higher during Biden
kabe@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 83d
In this instance, it's a perfectly reasonable comparison. Both Trump and Biden are/were deeply connected to the Zionist project of Israel and support it unequivocally.
To try and somewhat mitigate backlash from voters, they leak or hint that they are furious with Netanyahu behind the scenes but nevertheless continue to approve a never-ending stream of money and military equipment to Israel to continue their destruction, mass killing and ethnic cleansing.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 7 pts · 84d
I am describing the same mechanism that both of their staffs used; unsourced reports indicating politician really wants , despite evidence to the contrary.
Trump does not oppose the genocide any more than Biden did, evidenced by giving them the weapons and diplomatic support, and directly attacking countries for interfering.
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 84d
Nah
You're disingenuous
Trump is a case of the Netanyahu tail wagging the orange dog
Israel is leveraging the Tangerine Toddler, through a combination of BiBi having serious dirt on him through Epstein and promising him wealth due to his filthy son-in-law and the daughter he molested
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 13 pts · 84d
Is it really that hard to believe the pedophile-in-chief, like most people in the epstein files, supports the settler-colonial state for ideological reasons and didn't need to be blackmailed?
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 83d
plus BIBI has a vested interest in staying out of prison HIMSELF, by manipulating trump. he might not get that same support from BIDEN if gets sentenced to jail.
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 84d
There is no such a thing as Netenyahu controlling the USA or Trump. Trump is a scum who want to enrich himself and his family with wars and conflicts and also serve american imperialist interests in the middle east
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 84d
I'm older than many here
Old enough to remember when things happened, and occasionally Mossad would be implicated, but what had happened always served US interests somehow
The ledger is long, and has been filling for decades, always with the understanding that those debts would be repaid
The US always ponies up when they're going to be embarrassed, but they bit off more than they can chew, and their attack dog slipped the leash decades ago
Israel and Zionists have always been experts at weaponised victimhood
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 84d
You should be old enough to know that Netanyahu was a hardliner and opposed the Oslo accords although those accords was beneficials to Israel. It allowed them to colonize more swiftly and discretely Palestinian land. Netanyahu wanted to keep the fast way of colonization but American forced him to accept.
There is many other time where Israel listened to the USA because there was real threat if withdrawing some kind of support .
Israel withdrew from the Sinai Peninsula and Gaza Strip. when President Eisenhower threatened to cut off all U.S. aid and support, and considered imposing UN sanctions.
In 1991 Israel refrained from direct military retaliation to Saddam launching missiles to keep the to avoid undermining the U.S.-led Arab coalition against Saddam Intact.
The middle east was the most important region for empires for centuries . The USA control of the straight and trade routes would be an amazing leverage against Russia and China. That's why the USA also backed Saudi Arabia proxies in Yemen to control beb el mendeb . The war on Iran was definitely serving both Israel and the USA imperialist interests not national interests . The failure to win a war do not mean the bad intentions was not there.
If Israel control the USA then there would be no negotiations with Iran. The full scale war will continue. If trump was blackmailed he would easily give the west bank officially to Israel like he did with the Golan heights .
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 83d
You're so close
I lived through all of that
I laughed when the US went into Iraq when Kuwait slant drilled into their fields and were surprised to be shot at with US weapons
And again when Dubya did what his handlers told him to do
It's not that Israel controls the US.
They've been a useful tool for the West, including the UK for decades, but the power balance changed
The Mossad did dirty work for the West, not just 'Murica
But, Israel might be cruel and vicious, but they were clever, and they did what they did to ensure that they would always enjoy the support of the governments they did the things for that they could not do themselves
That has now shifted, and sharply
Between Kushner, Epstein and others, it's not about leveraging 'Murica, it's about leveraging Trump
And the whole world will have to deal with it, unfortunately
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 83d
Didn't they make a movie? Berlin or something?
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 83d
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 83d
Americans fund aipac, American politicians willingly accept their money, American voters Willingly voted for aipac candidates for decades so yeah again the USA control Israel
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 83d
Israelites are the ideological enemy of everything you want.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 83d
I'm not a hundred percent sure with your first statement, but I agree with the rest. My (quibbling) disagreement is: from over here it looks like he's not being controlled per se, he's being successfully manipulated using the levers and motivations you described. not blackmail. They didn't need to do that. Might not have been able to, as Krasnov's reputation is such I doubt it's possible to slander him. In this case overall it's I think a distinction with little difference for those of us plebes but with all the difference for those in the national and international politics game.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 84d
Welcome to Lemmy 🙄
Fishnoodle@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 84d
Dude walked backwards into gay bar, lol
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · -2 pts · 84d
I can walk
straightextremely gayly into the gay bar, thank you.HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 83d
It's spelt "sashay" and it's the gayest way I know to walk
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 83d
Damn, I was merely sauntering.
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 83d
And your personality is the best thing you have to ensure nobody fuck you and gives you anything communicable
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 83d
wtf?