The Federal Communications Commission will vote to eliminate a rule that requires Internet service providers to list all of their so-called “passthrough” fees on an easily accessible broadband price label. The FCC vote could also make the price labels themselves a bit harder for consumers to find.
ISPs routinely advertise prices much lower than those actually charged to consumers on their monthly bills. One method of raising monthly bill prices above advertised rates is to tack on fees that, ISPs claim, are used to offset charges imposed by local governments.
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Suavevillain@lemmy.world · 287 pts · 47d
Trump voters really voted to get scammed and a worst quality of life for everyone else lol. There is not one thing good this admin has done.
BillyClark@piefed.social · 46 pts · 47d
Let's see... They slowed down the war that they started in Iran. They released half of the Epstein files, just not the presumably 50% that directly implicate Trump. Trump fired Pam Bondi who he had appointed.
It's hard to think of anything good that they did that wasn't just toning down or backtracking of something bad that they had previously done.
Wataba@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 46d
Its literally just an abuse-manipulation tactic at that point.
Going overboard, then retreating back only slightly to give the false impression of being reasonable, when theyve already got what they want.
Throw it on the pile of shit that the public will never acknowledge, yes I know.
cmbabul@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 45d
One of the only true unifying principles of all the horrors that have begun to crescendo from the right for the past 10 that I have pinned down is that all sides of it are ultimately just abuse and cult dynamics, which are really just advanced abuse
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 14 pts · 46d
and hired TODD blanche, who is even more tied to EPSTEIN than bondi is. trump likely is keeping him close so he doesnt rat on trump down the line.
aeiou@piefed.social · 12 pts · 46d
The penny is gone. That was 30 years overdue.
Soggy@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 46d
Kind of. With no unified plan or support to transition.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 45d
All you need is to stop considering pennies legal tender but require banks to still accept them for changing or depositing (but not giving them out anymore).
Then stores can handle them on a case by case basis if they want to or just say "sorry we're done with pennies".
Oh yeah, also send the mint a note telling them to stop producing pennies en masse.
FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 45d
I disagree, but that's just me apparently. It's not that I particularly liked pennies, but I definitely don't like companies rounding UP to the nearest nickel. And as for the pennies costing more to make than they're worth -- so what? Basically any government provided service or product costs taxpayer money. Also, change the penny to make it more cost effective?
Anyhow, what's done is done, and we're probably all poorer because of it. I've been poor -- it sucks but life goes on.
toiletobserver@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 47d
I don't want to disagree, but how about enabled the Charlie Kirk incident?
areakode@riskeratspizza.com · 50 pts · 47d
Nah. Had nothing directly to do with Trump. I say it's a wash.
But seriously, Trump voters need to think what that man has done to improve their lives in any way. I seriously can't think of a single thing.
Rhaedas@fedia.io · 35 pts · 47d
They may still not say it out loud, but their first thought will be "he hurt those other people in various ways, so worth it to me."
Actual value for them... nope, can't think of anything.
fonix232@fedia.io · 18 pts · 47d
Oh they do say it out loud...
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 47d
https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/trump-voter-hes-not-hurting-the-people-he-needs-be-hurting-msna1181316
And if people think this is just some outlier cherry-picked by the media - nope. I've been told by an inlaw conservative that maybe I did well under Biden or under Obama, but should not have - implication being - maybe Trump 2.0 will actively harm me, because that's what I deserve. Because I have a degree, because I'm liberal, because I don't vote for asshole idiots like Donvict, etc...
And that's not even getting into the kinds of conversations I've had with conservatives both IRL and online - they definitely wish harm on those that merely disagree with them, never mind people of different religions or skin colors.
SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social · 21 pts · 47d
They don't need to think at all, they get fed what they need to believe. Trump made America great and safe and wonderful. Everything bad happening is somehow Bidens fault. Or immigrants did it. Even if they get upset for some days, they keep crawling back to him. It's the worst toxic relationship ever.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 10 pts · 47d
Or Iran, communists, Chyna, antifa... Never the United States, superriche, corporate entities...
YoureHotCupCake@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 46d
Case and point being them blaming the bad weather at the US 250 festival on democrats.
MagicShel@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 46d
They can't even keep straight between "science is dumb and doesn't know anything," and "libs built a fucking weather control machine!"
YoureHotCupCake@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 46d
Your enemy is both weak and strong at the same time bullshit, they fall for it every time.
KelvarCherry@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 46d
My understanding is most science-denier conservatives think the experts are liars, not idiots. Y'know; all of the "You Know Who" anti-Jewish conspiracy theories.
jtrek@startrek.website · 6 pts · 47d
Many people are sad, cruel, little monsters that are happy those people are being hurt.
It's really hard to change people like that so they're better. You gotta get them to see you as in-group, and slowly re-socialize them. Lot of work. Might not even succeed. But it's also apparently a whole bunch of crimes to round up the maga-hats and lock them in an underground vault somewhere.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 47d
I like the explanation that a lot of these people are people that peaked in high school. They are angry that they stayed in the same town, not bettering themselves and never really going anywhere.
And they want others to hurt. People they perceive as liberals because they did get a degree, did expand their minds, did better themselves, did travel, did spend time in bigger and better cities, and so on.
matthurtme@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 46d
I didn't get to go to college since my mother's AIDS bankrupted our family, but I didn't and don't want to see other people hurt.
Am I a little bitter I couldn't afford mountains of debt to get a degree while watching many of my friends go off to college? Sure.
Am I sad I had to work at a younger age than my peers so we could afford to juggle medications and bills? Sure.
Has this trajectory seriously screwed me for a lifetime of poverty? Yes, definitely.
Do I want to see other people hurt? No.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 46d
Sorry to hear about your situation. Obviously, it's not everyone who has ever seen others on that trajectory then turns to dark patterns - I was referencing this guy and I think it's more about those that are unable to process their emotions about it and misplacing the blame...
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ApnlSI01Icc
matthurtme@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 46d
I can see that. I also think a lot of these MAGA just benefit from the patriarchy and abuse in general,
Abusive Men Describe the Benefits of Violence - BWSS https://share.google/ZQBwC5VgCYheld0Xr
Source: Substack https://share.google/COSLwGxj3D2l6UM7i
I truly believe a lot of these MAGA are just entitled, but society brainwashed a lot of men to prioritize their own needs and having any emotional intelligence as being weak. If the only emotion these men are allowed by the patriarchy to feel is anger, then we will naturally produce a society of angry men.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 46d
Wouldn't have had Charlie Kirk without Trump. Horribly not worth.
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 46d
To be fair, they did increase the biodiversity of the reflecting pool
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 47d
That's not true. It showed us everyone's true colors.
adarza@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 47d
we already knew that during the campaign before episode 1.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 47d
I don't think it showed us anything that we didn't know already
OpenStars@piefed.social · 7 pts · 47d
Fortunately I avoided the mistake of voting blue tho, bc Lemmy tankies told me the truth that bOtH sIdEs SaMe.
( /s )
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 46d
i wonder what isps are only in red states, in the blue areas you get more than the OG 3 competitors. they likely have verizon, TWC, AT&T and xfinity mostly.
CADmonkey@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 46d
Ive had Cox internet and BTC (bixby broadband) in Oklahoma.
Snailpick42@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 45d
Republicans just want to hurt people. Even if it means hurting themselves. They just need to own a liberal and shed tears.
homes@piefed.world · 59 pts · 47d
Yet another day in Trump‘s world of “how can I make everyone’s life shittier? how can I HURT literally everyone on the planet for no good reason?”
Another day of republican philosophy in practice: cause pain just because
drdalek@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 46d
Desperate people are easier to control
Zephorah@discuss.online · 45 pts · 47d
Anything to fuck over working class.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 47d
And the white ones w/o degrees will vote even harder for Republicans to "own the libs". Meanwhile, just sitting on their own balls, basically.
matthurtme@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 46d
I didn’t get to go to college since my mother’s AIDS bankrupted our family, but I didn’t and don’t want to see other people hurt.
Am I a little bitter I couldn’t afford mountains of debt to get a degree while watching many of my friends go off to college? Sure.
Am I sad I had to work at a younger age than my peers so we could afford to juggle medications and bills? Sure.
Has this trajectory seriously screwed me for a lifetime of poverty? Yes, definitely.
Do I want to see other people hurt? No.
I'm not a nazi just because I wasn't able to get a degree
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 26 pts · 47d
Federal Communications ComissionFascist Cocksucker CenterDupaCycki@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 46d
In the European Union all ISPs market their connections based on maximum speed. However, the law requires them to meet at least 90% of that maximum advertised speed throughout the entire year (might slightly vary between countries), with some room for error. If they don't - easy lawsuit.
Internet is also usually extremely cheap. In my country you can get it as cheap as $8/month, with very good (>=500Mb/s download) connections rarely exceeding $25 USD monthly. Hell, you can get an 8Gb/s download cable for just a little over $40/month.
TrollTrollrolllol@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 46d
Europe always forgetting about the shareholders. How's the c suite going to afford their third yacht and their fourth mansion charging those prices?
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 46d
$8 ?
Same here. Romania
I get 500Mbps for about 10 euro
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 45d
Canada, I can't get 500 but I can get 360Mbps for CAD83
BlindPenguin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 45d
cries in German
alpha1beta@piefed.social · 21 pts · 46d
In any decent civilization, someone as evil and corrupt and stupid as Brendan Carr would be taken to a remote destination and beaten into a chunky soup
sqw@lemmy.sdf.org · 18 pts · 46d
this is one that i directly appreciated. the transparent bottom-line pricing was refreshing.
huppakee@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 47d
I wonder if there is any other countries where you will not know how much you'll have to pay for internet until after you've signed a contract.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 46d
or that they add new service charge, because they added something your subscription without consent. like how comcast constantly changes the tier of your cable services often.
Smaile@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 46d
even more reason to stop using American services.
Bixcut@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 46d
Where can I sign up for Canadian Internet in my US State?
Smaile@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 46d
by leaving, hope this helps :)
chiliedogg@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 45d
If every American who was being harmed by this admin moved to Canada you'd be amazed how quickly Canada would be come anti-immigrant.
BryceBassitt@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 46d
It doesn't, at all
Phantaloons@piefed.zip · 4 pts · 46d
Are all Canadians like you? How dreadful.
Smaile@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 43d
no, im just not going to pretend to be nice to a people i believe are all talk no balls. you wont fight.
Paddzr@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 46d
Right...
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de · 12 pts · 45d
Everyone knows opaque markets work the best. Brilliant display of regulatory skill from the party of fiscal responsibility.
nanometer1625@thelemmy.club · 9 pts · 45d
Gotta own those libs, right? /s
adarza@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 47d
fuck the fcc
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 47d
Know your place, trash!
frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io · 6 pts · 47d
Wonder if my provider will appreciate me not paying any fees that weren't included in the listed price
ToiletFlushShowerScream@piefed.world · 5 pts · 47d
How does Fox News spin this one then?
Asafum@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 47d
They don't really need to spin, they either talk about Democrats in a negative way, glaze Trump like he's their God, or they just don't cover it at all.
This one probably falls into the "just don't talk about it" category. If Reich wing media doesn't cover a story MAGA never finds out about it
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 46d
They'll blame it on Biden or Obama if they need to.
Conservatives fucking blamed 9/11 on Obama before.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 46d
and adding Hillary into mix too.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 46d
Jesus.
fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com · 1 pts · 45d
Shout out to protest voters.
k0e3@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 45d
FUUUUCK I hate these "hologram" stock photos where the text isn't reversed. So I'm supposed to believe that the user is looking at a reversed image??
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 2 pts · 45d
That's just how magical it is, the text flips for everyone reading it.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 47d
Biden Bad, so therefore anything Donvict does == doubleplusgood.
Don't talk to me about any facts, I don't want to hear 'em!
Wataba@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 46d
I cant tell which side this is parodying anymore.
rhymeswithduck@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 45d
If you don't get the reference, you should read 1984.
Hegar@fedia.io · -24 pts · 47d
ISPs: we wanna charge a bunch of bullshit fees so we can lie to customers about what our prices are. Biden: Sure! But you'll have to come up with names for the fees. Trump: Sure!
This one of those things that looks awful because the current regime decided to stop whatever flimsy fig leaf the dems had insisted on when they did pretty much the same thing.
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social · 19 pts · 47d
They were already doing it before the Biden requirements.
Source: I worked at a carrier and had to explain their bills to people daily.
The information disclosure was significantly different for consumers even though the bill didn't really change, they just had to actually breakdown the fees and surcharges, they couldn't hide it all blindly under "the government says we have to collect this".