If I answered a question like that in an interview for a job at McDonalds, I'd be laughed right the fuck out of the room. This should be instantly disqualifying, but in this admin, brazen dishonesty and cronyism is a must have.
In other administrations, too. The definition of truth belongs to the majority holder.
If the opposition to the GOP do not get a majority, and really a super-majority is what's truly needed... If that doesn't happen, there's no salvation for the United States.
I'd argue that it's been gone for a while, but I simply cannot give up yet.
For there to be a real path out of this they need to be willing to strike a stake into the heart of the republican vampire party:
Fully reform the supreme court with sane people who will overturn citizens united.
(Personally I would add every goddamn american citizen to the supreme court because its a lifetime appointment and the public would be way better the corrupt nutjobs currently running the asylum)
Additionally like 3 of the following:
Commit to passing some real ass electoral reforms to enforce the 14th ammendment.
Commit to reforming the way congressional districts are drawn or eliminate them entirely with proportional voting mandates
Bring DC and Puerto Rico in as states. Threaten to offer cuba statehood and reparations if republicans invade it based on some kind of generational grudge held by rich casino owner's grandparents.
ensure the electoral college is handled on a proportional basis, if not eliminated entirely.
And then looking to the future:
address the corruption stemming from the billionaire classes
use billionaire money to directly pay reparations to people placed in camps by trump admin
prosecute ice agents involved in murders.
ensure all tech companies remotely linked to social media, search, surveillance or data collection are run as non profit utilities under laws similar to those we require for power companies.
This is great. I wrote a platform in 2016 that included a lot of this, but I realize now that I should update my stance on these things to accommodate the new landscape.
What do you think Citizens United did? Overturning it would have very little effect. The things you don't like about money in politics, super PACs, corporate person hood existed before that case and are heavily entrenched.
Otherwise I totally agree, having PR not be a state is a disgrace, and having DC controlled by the federal government and without full representation is a farce.
Citizens united is the largest of a series of court cases that skewed power to the ultra wealthy. The mention of that is a starting point but beyond that it would allow more strict regulation of how corporations can spend their money.
Realistically there's over a dozen supreme court cases that need to be overturned and if you want an idea what those are at this point I highly recommend a podcast like 5-4
Unpopular opinion — The electoral college and Senate can stay as-is. At a glance it might seem weird to give votes to land, but on the other hand you shouldn't want every state between Utah and the Mississippi to become the country's public dumping ground.
Yeah, there are problems, but the other reforms might be enough. Overturning Citizens United, cleansing the Supreme Court of RV bribes and corruption, eliminating gerrymandering, and proportional elections should cover enough that we don't need to eliminate Nebraska's votes.
I actually didn't mention removing the senate, so if you want my opinion on the senate it's this: the senate and house should be rolled into a single electoral body that would essentially have a shape similar to the electoral college.
Though I think expanding the size of both the house and senate would increase the number of people it had to bribe to block laws so I would also be in favor of expanding the senate to 5 per state and making those elections proportional and ending the idea of celebrity senators.
It would be better to eliminate the senate but realistically I think the only way to do that would be to implement a national initiative process first that bypasses state legislatures from voting on constitutional amendments because there is no world where small state legislatures in enough small states would give up federal power.
Either way you're fucked. Both parties want to continue burning fossil fuels and both parties are blatently beholden to Israel's suicidal assault on the world.
The very fact that he is so rude and not forthright, is because he knows it doesn't matter. This is all formality. His position has been filled, by himself.
Yeah, if the members of congress had any principles none of them would have ever voted in any members who couldn't answer basic questions in the cabinet positions.
This guy seems to think he's Göring in the movie version of Nuremberg. No matter what he admits to, can't say that Hitler was wrong, so he would do it again.
Didn't even respond with the usual "Joe Biden was confirmed as the winner". Just refusing to answer is an even bigger piss-baby thing to do. It's a great and simple question to see if you'll put loyalty to one man above truth, and shows how much integrity you have in one simple question.
Yeah, ‘16 and ‘24 aren’t really contested in Trump’s mind because Trump won those (maybe; lawsuits are pending, etc) but the ‘20 election is contentious for fascist fucks everywhere.
Yeah but from an interviewing perspective it's a win-win. Either the guy answers the question for those elections more clearly, showing that he only has a problem answering the one about 2020 and therefore clearly doing it because of the orange man, or he still refuses and he looks like he can't answer simple questions.
You can totally pardon someone for something they haven't been convicted of. For example, Biden did this for him, his family, and others when he left office.
I assume there must be a mechanism that could be created to remove pardons though? If someone like Trump just pardons everyone for doing crimes for him, there must be a way to say they were corrupt, and they don't offer protections.
These people are disconnected from reality and need real psychological help. In the meantime, this behavior is not acceptable for anyone in any kind of official position. Hell, this amount of deflection wouldn't even be acceptable if he were trying to be a fucking barista.
No offense at all meant to baristas. You have likely worked harder than this clown ever will.
Yes, it should. The MAGA-style McCarthy hearings finally ended when one defendant hollered
"Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?"
It resonated with both the government, and the American people, and it ended McCarthy's power instantly.
I'm not sure it's possible to stop MAGA in its tracks with one sentence, but statements like this, strong challenges that make EVERY newscast, go a long ways in giving struggling MAGAs a strong dose of second-hand cringe. The first step in converting them will be making them embarrassed to be associated with those MAGA losers, and a constant stream of clips like this will do that.
We need a lot more condescending "Bless your hearts" from Democrats, until the MAGAs feel like retards, and run away.
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Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 249 pts · 23d
If I answered a question like that in an interview for a job at McDonalds, I'd be laughed right the fuck out of the room. This should be instantly disqualifying, but in this admin, brazen dishonesty and cronyism is a must have.
dan1101@lemmy.world · 70 pts · 23d
That's one of the most frustrating parts about all this, so few people are rational, so few people have standards or honor.
yakko@feddit.uk · 6 pts · 22d
It should be allowed to demand a duel if someone dissembles and refuses to answer questions in situations like this.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 22d
That would just put psychopaths with good reflexes in charge even more than they already are.
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 17d
Surely there are fewer psychopaths with good reflexes than the there are current psychopaths?
TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id · 0 pts · 22d
Their explosive collar should just be activated.
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 28 pts · 23d
In other administrations, too. The definition of truth belongs to the majority holder.
If the opposition to the GOP do not get a majority, and really a super-majority is what's truly needed... If that doesn't happen, there's no salvation for the United States.
I'd argue that it's been gone for a while, but I simply cannot give up yet.
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 23d
For there to be a real path out of this they need to be willing to strike a stake into the heart of the republican vampire party:
(Personally I would add every goddamn american citizen to the supreme court because its a lifetime appointment and the public would be way better the corrupt nutjobs currently running the asylum)
Additionally like 3 of the following:
And then looking to the future:
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 22d
This is great. I wrote a platform in 2016 that included a lot of this, but I realize now that I should update my stance on these things to accommodate the new landscape.
jdr@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 22d
What do you think Citizens United did? Overturning it would have very little effect. The things you don't like about money in politics, super PACs, corporate person hood existed before that case and are heavily entrenched.
Otherwise I totally agree, having PR not be a state is a disgrace, and having DC controlled by the federal government and without full representation is a farce.
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 22d
Citizens united is the largest of a series of court cases that skewed power to the ultra wealthy. The mention of that is a starting point but beyond that it would allow more strict regulation of how corporations can spend their money.
Realistically there's over a dozen supreme court cases that need to be overturned and if you want an idea what those are at this point I highly recommend a podcast like 5-4
Serinus@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 22d
Unpopular opinion — The electoral college and Senate can stay as-is. At a glance it might seem weird to give votes to land, but on the other hand you shouldn't want every state between Utah and the Mississippi to become the country's public dumping ground.
Yeah, there are problems, but the other reforms might be enough. Overturning Citizens United, cleansing the Supreme Court of RV bribes and corruption, eliminating gerrymandering, and proportional elections should cover enough that we don't need to eliminate Nebraska's votes.
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 22d
I actually didn't mention removing the senate, so if you want my opinion on the senate it's this: the senate and house should be rolled into a single electoral body that would essentially have a shape similar to the electoral college.
Though I think expanding the size of both the house and senate would increase the number of people it had to bribe to block laws so I would also be in favor of expanding the senate to 5 per state and making those elections proportional and ending the idea of celebrity senators.
It would be better to eliminate the senate but realistically I think the only way to do that would be to implement a national initiative process first that bypasses state legislatures from voting on constitutional amendments because there is no world where small state legislatures in enough small states would give up federal power.
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 22d
Either way you're fucked. Both parties want to continue burning fossil fuels and both parties are blatently beholden to Israel's suicidal assault on the world.
victorz@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 22d
The very fact that he is so rude and not forthright, is because he knows it doesn't matter. This is all formality. His position has been filled, by himself.
themaninblack@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 22d
It’s similar to a question that doctors will ask you in the emergency department: “who is the president?”
Alongside questions like “what year is it?”
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world · 132 pts · 23d
What a piece of shit.
schwim@piefed.zip · 85 pts · 23d
If he were an outlier, it would be something funny but the issue is rhe staggering number of the pieces of shit.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 22 pts · 23d
Yeah, if the members of congress had any principles none of them would have ever voted in any members who couldn't answer basic questions in the cabinet positions.
This guy seems to think he's Göring in the movie version of Nuremberg. No matter what he admits to, can't say that Hitler was wrong, so he would do it again.
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 23d
Well, it is the US.
danc4498@lemmy.world · 117 pts · 23d
His delivery really nails him.
Mantzy81@aussie.zone · 84 pts · 23d
Didn't even respond with the usual "Joe Biden was confirmed as the winner". Just refusing to answer is an even bigger piss-baby thing to do. It's a great and simple question to see if you'll put loyalty to one man above truth, and shows how much integrity you have in one simple question.
chunes@lemmy.world · 60 pts · 22d
If it's really a job interview then why didn't the guy move on to the next candidate
BigBenis@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 22d
Because half the hiring committee sees nothing wrong with this man's behavior.
P1nkman@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 21d
That means half the committee should be on the list.
urno@lemmy.world · 55 pts · 23d
Kind of annoying that they don’t ask them who won in 2024 or 2016 too. Or first. Or a really old one like Reagan.
tanisnikana@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 23d
Yeah, ‘16 and ‘24 aren’t really contested in Trump’s mind because Trump won those (maybe; lawsuits are pending, etc) but the ‘20 election is contentious for fascist fucks everywhere.
Piatro@programming.dev · 34 pts · 23d
Yeah but from an interviewing perspective it's a win-win. Either the guy answers the question for those elections more clearly, showing that he only has a problem answering the one about 2020 and therefore clearly doing it because of the orange man, or he still refuses and he looks like he can't answer simple questions.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 23d
He didn't win the popular vote in 2016, which is hilarious.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 21d
because they know they cheated in 2020, and still lost, projection all around.
Arancello@aussie.zone · 48 pts · 23d
He knows he’ll get confirmed anyway and whatever he does he’ll get a presidential pardon.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 22d
Not necessarily. A president can pardon someone who was legally convicted. He can't bottle a pardon for later.
So if after Trump the big cleanup will come, they all will have to face consequences, until some idiot later president will pardon them.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 22d
Of course they can. Nixon wasn't convicted, or even charged, yet Ford pardoned him.
Wataba@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 22d
After Trump will be more regressive autocrats because America was spineless in 2024.
wolfpack86@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 22d
Vietnam draft dodgers were pardoned without charges or convictions.
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 22d
You can totally pardon someone for something they haven't been convicted of. For example, Biden did this for him, his family, and others when he left office.
I assume there must be a mechanism that could be created to remove pardons though? If someone like Trump just pardons everyone for doing crimes for him, there must be a way to say they were corrupt, and they don't offer protections.
asret@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 22d
Sounds like you're both right - you can pardon people for things they have done, not things they will do. This ain't the church after all.
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 22d
Yeah, definitely not things you may do in the future, that's for sure.
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 22d
It's highly improbably, but couldn't in theory Trump use his justice department to convict everyone and then pardon em?
Reygle@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 23d
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 23d
An autistic person simply could not do this. Its not in our nature to ride trump's dick so hard that we could deny very obvious things.
jdr@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 22d
Obstructing the government is my special interest
bigbangdangler@reddthat.com · 34 pts · 23d
These people are disconnected from reality and need real psychological help. In the meantime, this behavior is not acceptable for anyone in any kind of official position. Hell, this amount of deflection wouldn't even be acceptable if he were trying to be a fucking barista.
No offense at all meant to baristas. You have likely worked harder than this clown ever will.
iamthetot@piefed.ca · 16 pts · 22d
They're not disconnected from reality. They are liars, cheaters, thieves, and crooks.
bleustenns@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 22d
I'd actually like to disagree that they're disconnected from reality. This is about as realistic as things can get in politics.. :(
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 23d
Pathetic. My last shit had more integrity, and I have diarrhea.
Mantzy81@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 22d
Stealing for later.
The comment, not your squirts. Someone else can have those. No kink shame though.
northernlights@lemmy.today · 28 pts · 23d
Love the questioning. I was hoping for a dismissive "ok we'll call you back".
yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml · 25 pts · 22d
"I'm not gonna engage in the theater"
Proceeds to make it more and more theatrical with every word
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 21d
he prefers broadway dramas.
zergtoshi@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 22d
Mr. Ossoff is a beast - only in the best way!
victorz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 22d
I haven't seen a more well-spoken, eloquent, and impactful speaker in years, dude. Where can I see this full video and more of him?
zergtoshi@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 21d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9BYMPKDB3g&t=1h46m5s
victorz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 21d
What a c—nt.
zergtoshi@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 21d
I believe you can say cunt here, if you want - it's not reddit ;)
victorz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 21d
Yeah I know, I self-censor sometimes because in my head when something is "bleeped" it sounds more offensive 😁
If there's no taboo there's no effect.
killea@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 23d
This man should have been taken away in a straight jacket.
Edit: also, the whole Jon Ossoff questioning is here, at 1:46:05. Good to hear in it's entirety: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9BYMPKDB3g
zergtoshi@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 22d
For convenience: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9BYMPKDB3g&t=1h46m5s
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 18 pts · 23d
Post-truth Amerikkka
betanumerus@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 22d
Disqualified.
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 22d
Wishful thinking. Have you seen the Brett Kavanagh job interview lol?
tristynalxander@mander.xyz · 12 pts · 23d
deacon@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 23d
He will
kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 22d
Dems only have to turn two Republicans + Sinema, seeing as Graham is dead and McConnell is incapacitated. I think it's possible.
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 23d
You would have gotten a better lie from a 5 year old who ate all the chocolate chip cookies.
jaykrown@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 22d
I could never do a job like that because I'd just tell the truth.
thethrilloftime69@feddit.online · 3 pts · 21d
Why do guys like this get confirmed anyway? Are all words meaningless?
ollie@pawb.social · 2 pts · 23d
i feel like this could be a lot of headlines
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 22d
Yes, it should. The MAGA-style McCarthy hearings finally ended when one defendant hollered
It resonated with both the government, and the American people, and it ended McCarthy's power instantly.
I'm not sure it's possible to stop MAGA in its tracks with one sentence, but statements like this, strong challenges that make EVERY newscast, go a long ways in giving struggling MAGAs a strong dose of second-hand cringe. The first step in converting them will be making them embarrassed to be associated with those MAGA losers, and a constant stream of clips like this will do that.
We need a lot more condescending "Bless your hearts" from Democrats, until the MAGAs feel like retards, and run away.
trainsrkool@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 23d
"do you know how little that narrows it down?"
alexquiniou@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 21d
I didn't know that Jude Law was a senator.
Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz · -1 pts · 23d
No transcript/no subtitle = can't watch this now.
victorz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 22d
Alright? Save it for later. 👍
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · -16 pts · 23d
This isn't news. This happens literally all the time lol.
Mantzy81@aussie.zone · 15 pts · 22d
It should be news every time, even if expected, primarily because it shouldn't be expected.
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 22d
But the Dow is over 50,000!