Queue all of these idiots being filmed accidentally shocking each other and then stopping the use of them, but only after whichever acquaintance of dementia Donny's gets a huge payout for the contract.
I'm not trying to make light of this, but given what I've seen from the "best and brightest" ICE has to offer, I think we are gonna wind up with a bunch of morons with singed micro-penises.
This will absolutely not be used to abuse human rights and to torture people who can't fight back.
Jesus, USA, it's really hard watching from the outside what the MAGAs are doing with a country that was once - while by far not perfect - on a pretty good trajectory regarding improvement of civil rights. You lost all that in about a decade or two.
Can you tell the difference from across the street between shock gloves and regular gloves? Its so they can use excessive force that doesnt look like it.
Good point, though I would expect the effects of these gloves on the victim to be visible from across the street. That’s assuming they are like tasers. People react pretty visibly.
On the surface, yeah, but I'd argue that the plan to remove civil rights had been underway for ~50yrs before. And more than that, it's also been a recurring theme that dates back to before the very founding of the country, via slavery, genocide and so forth.
History lesson. Hitler took the Rhineland and nobody did squat - he accelerated. Putin took Crimea and nobody did anything. The orange pedophile allowed ICE goons to kill Renee Nicole Good and Alex Jeffrey Pretti and there was no push-back so he upped his game. It only stops when there is equal or greater force used.
Pain compliance is not de-escalation. Pain compliance is assault.
We've been through this conversation before with Tasers, which are meant to be used as an alternative to lethal force,¹ but are routinely used by law enforcement and state paramilitaries before they would draw a firearm. While commonplace in the United States, that is deliberate misuse.
If ICE were following actual policing protocol, they'd stick to shock wands, which look like what they do. Electric gloves have the same purpose as sap gloves (gloves loaded with shot), which is to give the illusion that less force is being applied than actually is. They are intended to make violence caught on video less evident.
¹ Tasers are technically less lethal and victims are killed by them uncommonly.
So stun gun gloves. That's absolutely a weapon aimed at intimidation and "punishment" plain and simple. Stun guns aren't tasers and can't incapacitate someone in the same way. So they intend to use these on unarmed people. Even the most bastard cops know that stun guns make no sense for police.
So these gloves are super fucked and really exactly what a fascist force would like to use on people, but honestly it's so blatant this is going nowhere. The first time these were used a judge would rip ICE a new one. I'll bet everyone forgets about this pretty fast and the gloves never happen.
Repeat after me: The cruelty is the point. In order to get a judge to rule that these can't be used, a case has to be brought in front of one. The gloves can easily be deployed and used for intimidation and punishment in the field until a case makes its way through the system, then if it ends up in front of an administration friendly judge, it could be ruled in their favor.
I was literally about to look up a picture of those roght before seeing your comment! The second I read the post title, I thought the exact same thing!
ICE plans to spend up to $20 million to purchase thousands of “conductive distraction and de-escalation devices” for officers and agents by March
Distraction and de-escalation? Gee that sounds very reasonable.
Compliant Technologies says the devices function as a normal pair of patrol gloves until officers press a switch to activate their electrical mode. The gloves must be applied directly to someone’s skin to deliver a pain stimulus that typically helps an officer gain compliance within seconds, according to the company.
Ah, so not so much a de-escalation tool as a compliance enforcement device. I'll give ten to one that within a month of deployment we hear stories of them grabbing some poor sod by the nuts with them to make him unlock his phone.
Seems they're spending lots of money on the paramilitary and very little on the citizens. Someone will be herded like sheep in the very near future. Guess which one?
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psx_crab@lemmy.zip · 81 pts · 26d
Ohh so they not only able to choke people but also give em a shock. This is like the weapons wear by super villain's lackey
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works · 41 pts · 26d
Queue all of these idiots being filmed accidentally shocking each other and then stopping the use of them, but only after whichever acquaintance of dementia Donny's gets a huge payout for the contract.
0li0li@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 26d
I wonder what it does to a gun in the hand. Friendly fire? Mag explosion? Can't wait to find out.
chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world · 59 pts · 26d
I'm not trying to make light of this, but given what I've seen from the "best and brightest" ICE has to offer, I think we are gonna wind up with a bunch of morons with singed micro-penises.
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 25d
They could be into that.
I bet they’re into that
Pappabosley@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 26d
🤞
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus · 40 pts · 25d
This will absolutely not be used to abuse human rights and to torture people who can't fight back.
Jesus, USA, it's really hard watching from the outside what the MAGAs are doing with a country that was once - while by far not perfect - on a pretty good trajectory regarding improvement of civil rights. You lost all that in about a decade or two.
Delphia@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 25d
Its worse.
Can you tell the difference from across the street between shock gloves and regular gloves? Its so they can use excessive force that doesnt look like it.
scarabic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 25d
Good point, though I would expect the effects of these gloves on the victim to be visible from across the street. That’s assuming they are like tasers. People react pretty visibly.
Delphia@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 25d
"The gloves werent on, the perpetrator was faking"
"The gloves malfunctioned"
ZAP "STOP RESISTING!" ZAP "I SAID STOP RESISTING!" ZAP "STOP STRUGGING!"
"Those were regular gloves, not the shock gloves."
AA5B@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 19d
Why am I picturing reaching through a window to tase a driver, then 49 shots in a crowded area to finish them as they involuntarily accelerate
JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social · 4 pts · 25d
On the surface, yeah, but I'd argue that the plan to remove civil rights had been underway for ~50yrs before. And more than that, it's also been a recurring theme that dates back to before the very founding of the country, via slavery, genocide and so forth.
rayyy@piefed.social · 2 pts · 25d
History lesson. Hitler took the Rhineland and nobody did squat - he accelerated. Putin took Crimea and nobody did anything. The orange pedophile allowed ICE goons to kill Renee Nicole Good and Alex Jeffrey Pretti and there was no push-back so he upped his game. It only stops when there is equal or greater force used.
SarahFromOz@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 26d
The world is getting a bit dystopian for me....
PunnyName@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 26d
Death to ICE
Nazi lives don't matter
biofaust@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 25d
Yeah, same as the IDF.
CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 25d
I'll take "people being shocked accused of resisting arrest" for 300!
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 18 pts · 25d
Pain compliance is not de-escalation. Pain compliance is assault.
We've been through this conversation before with Tasers, which are meant to be used as an alternative to lethal force,¹ but are routinely used by law enforcement and state paramilitaries before they would draw a firearm. While commonplace in the United States, that is deliberate misuse.
If ICE were following actual policing protocol, they'd stick to shock wands, which look like what they do. Electric gloves have the same purpose as sap gloves (gloves loaded with shot), which is to give the illusion that less force is being applied than actually is. They are intended to make violence caught on video less evident.
¹ Tasers are technically less lethal and victims are killed by them uncommonly.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 25d
Florida Man Electrocutes Himself While Masturbating
HornedMeatBeast@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 16 pts · 25d
I hope they forget they are wearing them when they go to the bathroom.
Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 25d
Water buckets it is.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 25d
I would say super soakers but we all know they'd shoot you for "having a gun".
don't forget to add a little salt the water to increase conductivity.
AA5B@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 19d
Attempted murder of a “police” officer?
BigTuffAl@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 26d
PunnyName@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 26d
Yup. The only appropriate response to ICE is to ensure they don't go home at night.
athatet@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 25d
These are the 30-40 feral hogs that we’ve been talking about for so long.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 25d
These pigs really have become wild, too
Taleya@aussie.zone · 14 pts · 25d
May they consistently forget to take them off when they piss
dukeofdummies@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 25d
That was genuinely my first thought.
I know people who unknowingly peed on an electric fence. Not fun.
CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 24d
Most electric fences send shocks in pulses, and not a constant stream.
dukeofdummies@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 24d
Yep.
Still hurts like hell though
Inucune@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 25d
Can I interest you in a super-soaker?
cristigyk@piefed.social · 14 pts · 25d
that's to stop them from touching their crotches.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 25d
And each other.
teslasdisciple@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 26d
Maybe they'll do a lot of high-fives and this whole thing will solve itself
thesohoriots@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 25d
They seem like more of a sack-tap crowd
hash@slrpnk.net · 12 pts · 25d
So stun gun gloves. That's absolutely a weapon aimed at intimidation and "punishment" plain and simple. Stun guns aren't tasers and can't incapacitate someone in the same way. So they intend to use these on unarmed people. Even the most bastard cops know that stun guns make no sense for police.
So these gloves are super fucked and really exactly what a fascist force would like to use on people, but honestly it's so blatant this is going nowhere. The first time these were used a judge would rip ICE a new one. I'll bet everyone forgets about this pretty fast and the gloves never happen.
mangaskahn@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 25d
Repeat after me: The cruelty is the point. In order to get a judge to rule that these can't be used, a case has to be brought in front of one. The gloves can easily be deployed and used for intimidation and punishment in the field until a case makes its way through the system, then if it ends up in front of an administration friendly judge, it could be ruled in their favor.
themaninblack@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 25d
This will first be tested in the fifth circuit court of appeals.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 25d
I can't wait until they use it on perfectly innocent people for shits and giggles
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 5 pts · 25d
Day one.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech · 3 pts · 25d
What they aren't going to try it the day they receive them? Do any of us not play with new toys the same conditions we get them?
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 11 pts · 26d
That's just the plot of Avatar Legend of Korra!
AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 26d
I was literally about to look up a picture of those roght before seeing your comment! The second I read the post title, I thought the exact same thing!
PieMePlenty@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 25d
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 26d
Pussies.
AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 25d
Wat? Doesnt the second avatar series have people who fight with shocker gloves? Reality really is stranger than fucking fiction.
Geldaran@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 25d
My first thought was the Babylon 5 slaver gloves. I mean they're already the villains. might as well go full evil.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 25d
I have a feeling many of the people involved with ICE had a different interpretation of the Avatar movies than most of us
Manjushri@piefed.social · 8 pts · 25d
Distraction and de-escalation? Gee that sounds very reasonable.
Ah, so not so much a de-escalation tool as a compliance enforcement device. I'll give ten to one that within a month of deployment we hear stories of them grabbing some poor sod by the nuts with them to make him unlock his phone.
forbiddencherry@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 26d
Minority Report sick sticks when?
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 25d
Dude who slipped on ice is defo gonna shock himself scratching his ass with these
rayyy@piefed.social · 6 pts · 25d
The shock from these gloves can kill you. Consider it deadly force. Proceed accordingly.
T156@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 25d
Especially if you have a medical device like a pacemaker. It just seems a terrible idea all-round.
What happens if the gloves short out because they've touched a telephone pole/car, or it rained?
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 25d
until the inevitable incident where they high-five each other
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 24d
Seems they're spending lots of money on the paramilitary and very little on the citizens. Someone will be herded like sheep in the very near future. Guess which one?
StillAlive@piefed.world · 4 pts · 25d
waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 25d
Bluedragon012@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 25d
So shoot from a form of a bunker, got it.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 24d
Joy buzzers!
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 25d
To themselves? I'm cool with that.
BenLeMan@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 25d
Nice and righteous as they are they just love that unlimited power.