They have enough money for generations of their children to live as untouchables. They don’t need to care about their kids.

they wouldn't be able to do shit if we didn't enable them to do it; point the anger at the right place.

What womam would want to have sex with those old pedos anyway?

Don't tempt me to rewatch all of SG1 again >.>

A key thing there is that the bunker dwellers were at least eugenicists if not outright Nazi analogues and they were deliberately killing everyone outside as untermensch, it wasn't just a callous side effect of their facility.

Which episode is this, this might get me into SG1

I need to watch it. I've never seen it. I'm too young I guess.

Concrete, steel girders, and server frames don't combust easy, unfortunately.

Pharaoh ants.

Wait, it does not run on solar, even partially? JFC.

edit: yep.

Amazon has confirmed its investment in a massive gas-burning power plant in Texas, meant to supply up to 7.65 gigawatts of energy to a planned data center in Pecos County. Should it come online as planned, the plant’s 35 turbines would be allowed to spew 33 million tons of CO2 a year, the NYT notes, which would easily make it the largest single fount of emissions in the country.

It would also be in stark defiance of Amazon’s stated climate goals, which center on reaching net-zero carbon emissions by 2040.

🤦

Does greed know no end in this country?

If I were king they could run data centers with solar and fans. No outside power, no outside water.

This thing is 7.65GW. The largest solar array in the US is 900MW and uses 4600-5000 acres. The scale to do this on solar alone is bonkers, but not impossible.

You would need to at least 4x provision it which means a 30GW solar array, and 156,000 acres, before getting into battery storage for non sunny times.

It'd be nice to use some solar absolutely, but this is better suited to nuclear.

Edit: And if you aren't storing / over provision to store, then you still need the peak output from another source anyway and these things likely always run near peak as they are constantly in use, so the size of the non-solar source doesn't reduce, only its output during the sunny day time hours. So you end up with 7.65GW of natural gas still, but maybe they also build a 1GW solar farm on the side.

And don't forget to vote for the lesser evil party that will allow amazon to build just a dozen of these enormous datacenters instead of even more

You're going to be surprised when you find out who consumes what businesses produce...

No, they looked at the blatant corruption from Fatboy McKiddieFiddlers regime and figured, "eh, what's the point of pretending to give a shit. No fucker has got the balls to stop us from fucking thing up."

"current gov allows us to do anything so we don't care anymore because that,'s cheaper"

They mean politically, they can get away with this now without blownack, they never gave one single shit about the climate

Or maybe "eh, it's fucked anyways, let's make red line go up".

It's those pesky Canadians again, it's all their fault for mismanaging the fires, not the fact we are cooking ourselves alive.

If the U.S. blew this up, I'd concede that the U.S. actually does help the world from time to time.

How do you think they're clearing the native residents off the land?

Most "we plant a tree for every _____" things are just scams. They plant the trees, sometimes as monocrops that could never become a healthy forest, and usually without monitoring the trees or guaranteeing their survival into at least early-maturity.

Well, as long as trees magically suck pollution out of the atmosphere in extremely high numbers, and sequester it for at least a few million years, that should be fine

Otherwise, we're probably fucked.

And we gotta be negative. Net 0 is a nice milestone on the way to build a future for our children.

These companies are all racing to dominate the market. Eventually one will win, largely through government contracts. Then all the infrastructure will be used to further propagandize, kill and spy on us.

The company benefits by convincing investors that is still growing and innovating. If investors think they are still growing their stock prices go up. If their stock prices go up then they can use their stock as an asset to borrow against or as a form of payment in lieu of cash. Stock is particularly useful to a company as a medium of exchange because they can just make more. But they can only do that without tanking the value if people are buying, and they can only keep people buying if they think the price will go up, and the only thing the price will go up if they think the company is going to become more profitable in the future.

This is basically Cory Doctrow's argument in his latest book.

Fossil fuel companies. Waha natural gas prices are super depressed in that area so it would be a big boon to the pricing environment there.

funnily the all the "grid can't handle all the EV charging" is just assuming everyone is going to fast charge the same time, when in reality most are just going to be using either level 1 overnight charging every night or fast charge for a way shorter time so very few people are doing that at the same time.

Fun fact: This could possibly be true at the same time.

More context:

It would also be in stark defiance of Amazon’s stated climate goals, which center on reaching net-zero carbon emissions by 2040.

That’s not lost on the tech giant. But as Amazon spokesperson Margaret Callahan told the NYT, the “world looks different now than when we co-founded the climate pledge.”

“We’re being transparent about the challenges, investing in innovation, and delivering measurable results,” Callahan continued. “Growth and sustainability don’t have to be in opposition — in fact, our results show they reinforce each other.”

That is so cynical.

The USA and its legislation (10 year moratorium on all AI regulation) is what changed.

The world is continuously and slowly going in the same direction since they "pledged". Nothing has changed there.

Right? That's my thing, look at airlines and their Razer thin margins. They just built this megastructure and can't operate any of it without completely depending on gas prices.

Even without the green aspects no one stopped to think about the return on investment of layering the entire place in solar? 5 years from now? 20?

one time carbon cost vs decades of compound carbon interest.

I'll take the lump sum, please.

That was just talk

Yes. The effect of one person's passive boycott is nothing. If you're serious enough to sabotage your own relationships over this, then perhaps focus instead on a greater boycott campaign, or actively pushing for legislation to actually make a difference.

Don't cut off your nose to spite your face.

Yes, wtf man?

Imho there are different aspects to this: are they binge buying useless stuff on Amazon constantly, feeding into mindless consumerism? are there more ethical alternatives available?

If someone uses Amazon for something they can't find anywhere else, or that the alternative costs so much more they can't afford it, then I understand. If they are just a mindless consumer and they do nothing to change that, they lose my respect.

At the same time, if that is a reason you are considering to break up with someone, imo it tells your relationship is not very solid to start with.

Don't lose your righteous principles over a woman. Especially since she is your gf, not a wife.

At this rate we are gonna have to mass clone Johnny's engram. 1 nuke is not enough.

Maybe when Trump is dead and gone, they’ll switch to solar. Solar’s gotta be MUCH cheaper for them in the long run anyway, and frees them of ties to industries known for being exploitative.

Trying to re-use 7.65GW of excess heat would be a monumental task of it's own, but at a smaller scale, it works well. Things like a smaller datacenter heating the pool nearby etc. They should at least be trying to reuse as much as possible, pipe it to nearby things.

As someone who currently lives in Texas, I care a little about Texas.