This already counts as socialist?

1.1k points · 161 comments · view on lemmy.world

161 Comments

wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 160 pts · 20h (35 replies)

It's the most basic lesson from Rollercoaster Tycoon. More trash cans = less litter = happier people.

Out of the way, Boomers. It's the Millennials' time to shine. We've been preparing for this our whole lives, and it's past time for us to take the reins.

Sorry Gen X, we're doing what you should've done decades ago...

OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world · 107 pts · 19h (8 replies)

Sorry Gen X, we're doing what you should've done decades ago...

We literally did not have the chance. The greedy Boomers held onto the power & money until well past their own expiration date (see the average age of the past couple presidents, for example).

This is the case in politics and in business as well. Boomers refuse to retire, forcing Gen X to take lower paying jobs with little chance of promotion.

Look it up. “Baby Boomers held onto leadership roles longer than past generations, which delayed Gen X from taking power.”

I think eventually we sort of just gave up. Boomers were handed the country on a silver platter from their parents, and then they ran it into the ground (by doing shit like electing Reagan), and simply refused to pass it on when their time was supposed to be up.

Hence GenX’s slogan; “oh well, whatever, never mind.”

wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 40 pts · 18h (2 replies)

I know, I know. I was being tongue-in-cheek.

You guys got the shaft, it's okay. We Millennials only got half-shafted because we'll still have time to scramble to do something after the last boomers die, while you Gen Xers are all old and decrepit. Maybe Gen Z will have a chance, if humanity doesn't cause its own extinction first.

Lay your weary head to rest, we've got it from here. No more pain, only dreams. Shhhhhhh...

Carol2852@discuss.tchncs.de · 17 pts · 16h

Such a polite burn. I’ll go and rest my weary head now. ☺️

CannonFodder@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 11h

Hey, I resemble that.

atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 18h (2 replies)

In my experience Gen Xers have allowed Boomers to stay longer. Obviously this isn’t Gen Xers’ fault entirely and I’m not trying to paint with a wide brush here, but from what I have seen growing up Gen Xers have been useful to Boomers in that there are token Xers who have been allowed power as long as they enact the policies that allow Boomers to stay longer.

I am taking about the Hakeem Jeffries of the world, or people like the HR administrator I know who worked to allow retirement to accrue longer so that people wouldn’t feel forced to retire as soon and now finds herself in her 50s without having made it passed HR administration.

I’m not even sure that things could’ve turned out differently if Gen X had tried something, I’m just saying that in my experience “oh well, whatever, never mind” isn’t exactly the whole story.

OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 17h (1 reply)

Little of both probably. Boomers heavily outnumbered GenXers too, and held all the money, so GenX were sort of left in a bind. Hakeem and that HR rep aren’t doing those things out of spite for their own generation or later generations. Boomers still run the show upstream.

atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 17h

Not spite for the whole generation, but it definitely speaks to something that I’ve seen in every generation. It’s the same conversation that comes up when we talk about developers who work for Google or Microsoft. There’s always somebody who’s willing to fuck over other people for money. Even if they don’t exactly see themselves as fucking over other people. And there’s always somebody who is in a desperate situation enough to hold their nose. I even commented a couple of weeks ago that currently being unemployed I don’t know if I could turn down a job from Google or Microsoft. As with everything there’s always lots of nuance.

Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 19h

You grew up with "children of the corn" to learn from... but you didn't listen.

Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 6h

This isn't a contest, but it's worse for millennials as a whole because the line is, waaaay backed up. Gen Z has it one step worse than us, too. It's a cascade of bullshit from these assholes.

pigup@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 19h (5 replies)

Billionaires don't want happy people. They want most people dead and only a small servant class for themselves. Hence why no effort was ever made to make anything better for people. In fact, they've worked to the contrary.

very_well_lost@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 19h (3 replies)

I want to get off Mr Bones' wild ride...

db2@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 18h (2 replies)

Feels more like we're on Mr Bonestripper

DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 15h (1 reply)

This used to scare the shit out of me as a kid. Now billionaires instill the same fear in me.

very_well_lost@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 11h

Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to seizing the means of production.

Archer@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 17h

I don’t think they want people dead per se, a large peasant class for labor that they can demote people to and raise people from suits them just fine

Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 20h (3 replies)

Oh God, not RCT. Don't complain too much or the government will drop you in a lake.

ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 8 pts · 19h (1 reply)

Or get a roller coaster that crashes in a fiery explosion.

Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 19h

I mean, how long before the Trump admin decides to randomly cut funding to ride regulations??? 😂

Darkard@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 18h

"I want to get off Mr Trump's Wild Ride"

taiyang@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 18h (5 replies)

You joke but I still remember Mamdani, 11, being quoted asking for Sim City 3000 in a magazine. He most certainly has tried Rollercoaster Tycoon, lol.

wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 16h (3 replies)

Are you being for real right now?

ZeroCool@piefed.ca · 4 pts · 9h (2 replies)

I looked it up, and yep, it's true. He was actually 11 at the time, though. Apparently he hoped to get some books, FIFA 2003, and Sim City 3000 for the holidays.

https://screenrant.com/zohran-mamdani-simcity-3000-game-mayor-nyc-candidate/

wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 9h

Aw, looks like he's always had that golden smile

taiyang@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 8h

Misremembered the age, I'll fix my comment haha.

OwOarchist@pawb.social · 2 pts · 8h

Knowing him, he probably didn't even drown or explode guests for fun, either.

Eh_I@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 19h (1 reply)

Sorry Gen X, we’re doing what you should’ve done decades ago…

We were always building rollercoasters that ended in brick walls or busy foot-paths. Did you play the Rollercoaster Tycoon?

I bet your Sims are all properly cared for too. 🏊-🪜=🪦

wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 19h

Yeah, actually I would build that rocket launch ride and then turn the speed up as high as it would go and watch it launch people to their dooms...

But at least I learned about the importance of sanitation in areas with high population densities!

And I never actually played Sims, but my nintendogs are probably all skin and bones, my tamagotchis are likely dead, and all my animal crossing neighbors have probably moved out of my sad, decaying town.

But I didn't say that I personally would be saving everyone from the boomers' neglect!

LillyPip@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 11h (2 replies)

Sorry Gen X, we're doing what you should've done decades ago...

Hey man, we fucking tried. The boomers were against us. And we raised you to be better than us, instead of abandoning you to the wilds like we were, which was the whole point: to leave the world better than we found it.

e: that ‘better’ was you.

wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 10h (1 reply)

I know you tried, I only mentioned Gen X because they're usually forgotten about entirely.

Thanks for punk rock and third-wave ska.

LillyPip@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 5h

Thanks for anime and public defiance.

cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 19h (2 replies)

I'm assuming it takes away parking spaces. Only recently has the attitude toward cars shifted from some kind of unwritten civil right that you get to take your four ton metal box wherever you please to hmm, maybe not everyone should be allowed to park anywhere all the time if it means there isn't literal piles garbage filled bags on the street.

ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 10 pts · 19h

I’m assuming it takes away parking spaces. Only recently has the attitude toward cars shifted from some kind of unwritten civil right that you get to take your four ton metal box wherever you please to hmm, maybe not everyone should be allowed to park anywhere all the time.

I can't wait for that. My neighborhood is having a spasm over removing about 10 parking spots on a major road for a bus lane. The kicker is those 10 parking spots force a choke point for traffic, slowing everything down.

wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 19h

I'm assuming it takes away parking spaces

[good.gif]

BurgerBaron@quokk.au · 1 pts · 14h

Don't even need security guards if the guests are all too happy to consider vandalism.

OilyArena@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 1h

Great, so now there's going to be younger people in charge of the machine that burns the world and makes life miserable for almost everyone. I'm sure they'll give it a dazzling new coat of paint!

Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de · 121 pts · 17h (10 replies)

Not to rain on everyone's parade, but this is not Mamdani's initiative, though of course he is making the correct choice in continuing it.

Don't misunderstand me, I hate that corrupt piece of shit Adams, but the truth is important anyway.

victorz@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 14h (5 replies)

The truth is one of the most important things. 👍

mirshafie@europe.pub · 3 pts · 13h (3 replies)

Well on my list of important the most important things it's the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

victorz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4h

Yet, some people can't handle the truth.

Godric@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 13h (1 reply)

So help you god?

braydan@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 11h
[ removed ]
METATRONSTUDENT@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 2h

I use to believe that as well, till you realize that the truth is whatever the victors say it is.

Canconda@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 14h (1 reply)
[ removed ]
rapchee@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 14h

there's a big one one the pic though

lordziv@lemmy.nz · 2 pts · 11h (1 reply)

Eric Adams just did it because he has a lifelong hatred of rats

fritobugger2017@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 6h

So he is self loathing.

TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 71 pts · 21h (9 replies)

The last one was spending the majority of his time taking bribes and doing crimes. Funny how no one really talks about how Eric Adams is now legally a citizen of Albania.

Still can't believe he's gotten away scott free, but I guess he did warn that "All my haters become my waiters when I sit down at the table of success"

wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 26 pts · 20h (7 replies)

"All my haters become my waiters when I sit down at the table of success"

I hope they fart in his drinks.

TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 20h (6 replies)

I hope they fart in his drinks.

He's willing to suffer the consequence of success.

"If you’re going to hang out with the boys at night, you’ve got to get up with the men in the morning"

"All my losses are lessons"

wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 9 pts · 18h (5 replies)

Does he ever say anything that doesn't sound like he plagiarized it from a self-stylized "life coach" on instagram?

TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 17h (2 replies)

"Lions don’t lose sleep over the opinions of the sheep."

X@piefed.world · 4 pts · 16h (1 reply)

Lions, with extremely rare exceptions, have a lifestyle of comprising in near totality eating, sleeping, shitting, fucking, and dying. All of this, mind you, happens outdoors in climates they can rarely, if ever, stray from. To date, exactly zero lions have set foot on the moon, or even merely boarded a plane by themselves. None are known to us for their penchant for philosophical rumination, and if they quote each other, we sure as fuck don’t know about it.

When the entirety of humanity has devolved to live exactly as they do now, I will give that quote all the consideration it deserves. Which is exactly none, because I’m a lion and have no idea what the fuck a quote even is.

TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 16h

"I am the mayor. This is the city of nightlife. I must test the product"

"I am perfectly imperfect, and have occasionally eaten fish."

locahosr443@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 18h (1 reply)

Is there anything he wouldn't steal?

TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 15h

"I am Gandhi-like. I think like Gandhi. I act like Gandhi. I want to be like Gandhi."

"Deep down, I think I must be (a) little bit Dominican."

PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 18h

Is he going to go live at Jared Kushner’s pedo resort?

grandel@lemmy.ml · 61 pts · 22h

Probably what all other politicians usually do: Fill their pockets with money and power

nightwatch_admin@lemmy.world · 54 pts · 21h (6 replies)

Best not ask what Ghouliani was doing, bad for your mental health

sam_the_tech@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 21h (3 replies)

“I served you as mayor” Eric Adams tells Israel

https://youtube.com/shorts/AS6NxSXrAqM

TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 24 pts · 20h (2 replies)

Lol, still scheming to acquire that vineyard in the golan heights. There has never been a mayor that has worked so hard for himself as the mayor of New York. I know he's been trying to get citizenship in Israel and Turkey for a while, he just got citizenship in Albania. Seems he took the "mayor of the world" but literally.

Some of my favorite Eric Adams quotes.

  • "You know the first stop is always Istanbul."

  • "...when I wake up, it scares me that I'm not scared."

  • “I don’t care what anyone says, there are ghosts in there, man.”

  • “Lay hands on our media. Heal them. Put honesty in their hearts.”

  • “We can talk about erectile dysfunction but not clitoral stimulation – something’s wrong. Something is just wrong.”

  • "I am the pilot, and you are all passengers. Pray for me to land the plane, cause there’s no parachutes on this plane, we’re all going down together.”

  • "Imagine how many love affairs would have been great if we did not live within the boundaries of our own intellectual capacities."

  • "All my haters become my waiters when I sit down at the table of success"

sam_the_tech@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 14h (1 reply)

Omg I forgot about the one about him being the pilot and we’re all gonna die together lmfao. Just hiring a new a new pilot seems to be working out!

TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 14h

It's hard to keep track of them all, he's got so many fantastic and legitimately insane quotes.

Mirshe@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 21h

Adams too, it's like a madness rune.

wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 21h

Welcoming in the Russian mob with cheeks spread

hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 40 pts · 18h (7 replies)

One of the other mayors was doing exactly this. Large municipal projects take time. This project, which includes large on-street municipal garbage bins, and new residential garbage cans, was started under Mamdani's predecessor. This is an Eric Adams project that is only reaching the point of installations during Mamdani's tenure.

Mamdani is great and all, but he's not the one solely responsible for every good thing that happens in NY.

Jarix@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 15h (4 replies)

This is true and is an example of an inconvenient truth.

But it's also important to note that Mamdani didnt cancel the project because it was the predecessor. That's often all too common in political leadership positions and is why it can be so bloody impossible to get long term benefits/plans to be executed.

Spite, ego, politicking all makes for terrible leadership but it's often what seems to be celebrated. Good on Mamdani for seeing something worth having and not needing to be the author of it just for optics

driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br · 5 pts · 14h (2 replies)

Is horrible when one Mayor big project is something like bike lanes and then next mayor for an opposing party came and stop all construction of expansion, or worse even destroy what had been done, so it's opponent doesn't get any additional credit

Jarix@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 12h (1 reply)

It's so much worse as you scale up projects too. When neighbouring cities or regions need to work together it often only takes one douche canoe to torpedo the whole thing. Especially infrastructure projects and the like

kestrel7_7@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3h

Great example: San Mateo and BART. Check out a map. They refuse to allow a station that would let BART make a giant loop around the Bay.

ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 6h

Mamdani is also the beneficiary of a $1.3bn windfall due to an accountancy error last year, so he has a one-time slush fund to play with, and the rest of the policies are paid for by deferring things like reducing classroom sizes to some nebulous point in the future and by one-time grants from Albany designed to shore up his standing.

He’s not god, he’s just the wizard behind the curtain like all the others.

tazeycrazy@feddit.uk · 9 pts · 14h

I think this is true of any political ribbon cutting. Nixon took a victory lap for the moon landings. The issue is when politicians don't want to hand over something then nothing gets done.

sudo@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 17h

large municipal projects take time

I think Mamdani has been working tirelessly to dispel this notion.

db2@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 19h (2 replies)

What were the other mayors even doing?

Taking kickbacks and speed running corruption.

bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 15 pts · 18h (1 reply)

The level of corruption in the Adams administration was laughable. One of them is now indicted because she wanted a cameo on the Hulu series “Godfather of Harlem” in exchange for canceling plans to install bike lanes. Another tried to bribe a reporter in a chip bag filled with cash.

abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 13h

See some of these (like the chip bag) are so harebrained that you're just like "surely that doesn't work right" but it just makes you wonder how many times something like that does work, happens often, and we just didn't hear about it.

One person doesn't just randomly decide to take thousands or more of cash and give it to someone because "maybe it'll work or maybe my life will be ruined", it's a risk, but significantly less of one if you know it's been done before. They're not robbing convenience stores for rent money out of desperation, they're bribing people to change public policy that overrides the public because of their own beliefs or agenda because they think they can get away with it. And who knows how often they do.

hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 34 pts · 22h (3 replies)

Nothing quite as socialistic as public trash bins

inari@piefed.zip · 23 pts · 20h (2 replies)

socialism is when the goberment does stuff and the more stuff it does the more socialister it is

StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 18h

and the more stuff it does the more socialister it is

It evolves into communism after it becomes so social it's socialest, but you have to use a water stone.

kestrel7_7@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3h

— Carl Marks

AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social · 30 pts · 13h

I love how the only arguments people have against them is "they're ugly" and "they'll take away parking spots" as if piles of trash bags look better, and NYC doesn't already have an expansive public transit network with plans to increase bus service.

takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 30 pts · 11h

What were previous NYC mayors doing?

Making money serving the Epstein class.

megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 26 pts · 10h (3 replies)

This has had actually been in the works for a while, it’s not like he just materialized this out of nowhere.

But, it has been constantly getting delayed and put through “trials”. So, it actually getting implemented is good.

The best part is seeing idiots who want any excuse to attack a DSA politician trying to argue that loose trash bags are better than dumpsters. Like, trying to make the concept of dumpsters a culture war issue is hilarious.

OwOarchist@pawb.social · 5 pts · 8h (1 reply)

Like, trying to make the concept of dumpsters a culture war issue is hilarious.

Especially when 99% of their 'culture war' audience (who of course don't live in NYC) already use trash bins and dumpsters in their everyday lives.

MML@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 6h

"why aren't they burning the trash"

ccunix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3h

Why on earth do you need to trial putting things in a bin?

OwOarchist@pawb.social · 24 pts · 8h (11 replies)

Has NYC finally quit it with their stupid idea of just letting trash bags sit on the street? This is something that basically every other city in the world has figured out.

Pacattack57@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 5h

It was a corruption issue. Has nothing to do with fixing issues

fake@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 6h (7 replies)

Except like, the entirety of Japan.

OwOarchist@pawb.social · 3 pts · 4h (5 replies)

I haven't been to Japan, but from what I hear, it's not the kind of place where you're going to find piles of trash bags on the street.

Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 4h (3 replies)

I have been there. You do. If you are actually interested in learning about it, look up how there deposal system works and maybe visit e.g. Tokyo once. Tokyo can be nasty.

CitizenKong@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2h (2 replies)

Then you visited a different Tokyo then me. Cleanest city I've ever been in, and I'm from Germany.

Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 1h

Well Tokyo is huge. But e.g. shibuya isn't that niche and I walked on a sticky ground through broken glass there.

Tokyo is mostly clean. I am not saying that it is dirty.

I am saying, in Japan, seeing trash bag on the street is not usual (for collection usually) and e.g. Tokyo CAN be nasty.

METATRONSTUDENT@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 2h

Switzerland outside the massive amount of graffiti , it was the cleanest place I’ve ever been

fake@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 4h

Well that's how trash pickup is done all across the country. Clear plastic bags (usually you have to purchase them specific to each ward and each trash type) on the footpath a few times a week. Usually gone by lunch time. Apartment buildings can end up with huge piles of them. The crows love picking apart the bags and spreading trash about.

Japan really isn't some mythical cleanly place and I've no idea how they managed to get that stereotype. I've seen fly tipping, piss jugs, trash along the motorways, riverbanks covered in empty drink bottles. Its the same as anywhere else.

kestrel7_7@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3h

Also, Barcelona and many other Mediterranean cities

Thor_Whale@lemmus.org · 3 pts · 2h

The entire countries of Egypt and Jordan would like to have a word with you.

Bootyhole@lemmus.org · 2 pts · 51m

I left NYC many years ago. I was still young when i had to leave. But I remember how dirty it was. I recently went back. It still is dirty. It's by design. Sometimes the only trash bags I'd see get picked up by the city were the ones the homeless taped together over the sewer/ subway to make vents so the hot air could reach into people's "tents'.

ThePyroPython@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 15h

Socialist Communist Mamdani is genociding the Rat majority population of New York by wiping out their food supply /s

SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today · 21 pts · 3h (3 replies)

All these threads are hilarious.

Dude gets elected to the job of running the city and actually RUNS the city and everyone's shocked.

Like take a step back and realize that if actually having potholes fixed and garbage collected is 'new' maybe you all need to stop re-electing the same loser assholes year after year.

PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 3h (2 replies)

It's because he's Muslim.

That's it. He's talked about so much because he's a brown person doing good things and that goes against the white American collective hive mind.

humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2h

It’s because he puts the needs of the workers over the needs of those with so much wealth their entire lineage will never have to work again.

They’ll use him being a Muslim to turn us against him and against each other, but that’s not why he’s opposed by the billionaires who own the media or the billionaires who fund the GOP and establishment Democrats, all of whom teamed up to try to keep him out of power.

When it was Bernie, they tried to divide us by gender and generation. When it’s a Muslim, they try to divide us by religion. When it’s a young white Christian man, they try to divide us by lying about him being a fucking vegan sexist racist.

There’s no war but class war.

METATRONSTUDENT@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 2h

Yeah, people seem to still not get this part… it’s factually a race issue like most problems in this he US

CptInsane0@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 21h

Embezzlement, mostly

Jhex@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 11h

Giving money to billionaires is exchange of almost no benefit to the people of the city

https://www.thecanary.co/global/world-analysis/2025/10/24/mamdani-cuomo-debate/

DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 15h (1 reply)

What were the other mayors even doing?

What 98% of government officials do. Figuratively and/or physically rape us.

FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 14h

Those are malevolent evil government officials

Mamdani is a competent benevolent government official

marcos@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 19h (6 replies)

Hum... Just to point out but there's nothing socialist about this.

What doesn't mean it's not good. But words have meaning, and this one doesn't mean that.

kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 18h (1 reply)

socialism is when the government does stuff

if the government does a A WHOLE LOT of stuff:

it's communism

marcos@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 18h
[ removed ]
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 15h (2 replies)

If the receptacles are provided by the City, and the collection of the garbage is paid for by taxes and done by the City, then it is kind of socialist.

marcos@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 14h

"Socialism" does not mean "government doing stuff". (The one reply you'll find here claiming it is a joke.)

The name of "government doing stuff" is "government". It exists to do stuff.

Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 2h

No.

infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 16h

Yeah OP didn't think when they wrote the headline. Super low-effort.

Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus · 13 pts · 15h

Also receptables for useless ex-mayors.

gerowen@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 8h (9 replies)

Not a NYC dweller here, but what in the world constitutes a "modern" trash bin? Isn't a bin a bin? Do the bins drive around picking up trash autonomously? Did NYC just not have them at all or something?

megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 8h (2 replies)

Oh, yah, no, they’ve just been putting trash bags on sidewalks instead of dumpsters or trash bins.

gerowen@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 7h (1 reply)

That sounds like a really good way to attract vermin of all sorts; bags will leak, break open or just otherwise be easily accessible by any critter that happens to roam by. If Ninja Turtles are anything to go by, I'm not sure I'd want those rats getting into my bags, 😛

wrinkledoo@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 5h

NYC has a reputation for Rodents of Unusual Size, so I'm honestly not surprised.

pupbiru@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 4h (1 reply)

not about NY, but in melbourne we have a bunch of solar powered bins that compact the waste when it gets close to full so they can fit about 3x more in it before it needs collection

the city also has a city-wide LoRA network that they use for various sensors, so they could also easily (and cheaply) signal that they need collection

Aqarius@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2h

Oh that is a cool idea.

ccunix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3h

Where I am (a small provincial town in north west France) we at least nice small bins on the street. With MASSIVE GREAT BIG BINS underground where the actual rubbish goes.

kestrel7_7@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3h (2 replies)

Nope, no alleys in NYC, nowhere to put dumpsters that isn’t in the way. Not sure where these are gonna go.

humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2h (1 reply)

I guess in the same spots the giant stinky piles of trash bags have been going?

kestrel7_7@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2h

The trash bags were there one day a week for a few hours until they got picked up. These things will be taking up space all the time…

Also they weren’t stinkier than dumpsters can be, lol. Trash is trash. The NYC trash piles shock American tourists, but on a global scale it’s a pretty normal way to deal with trash. I’ve seen it in “nice” cities in both Europe and Asia.

Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 13h (4 replies)

If public anything is socialist, then every nation on Earth has always been and is socialist.

I think that's a little too broad of a definition, but I'm not a political scientist.

p.s. NYC always stank like garbage and urine in summer, nice to see some progress. Maybe weld a urinal onto the new garbage bins?

psivchaz@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 9h (3 replies)

So I haven't been able to figure out where I fit because the classifications are too broad and don't fit a modern society anyway. I mean half the shit we argue about (capitalism, socialism, communism) seems to my uneducated eye to be economic systems, not political systems, so i get severely confused when people talk about them like political systems. Why can't we have democratic communism for example?

Again, I haven't taken a political science course, but I don't see an inherent contradiction in calling myself a democratic libertarian communist. People should be free to do as they please with some perhaps common good exceptions, but the means of production should be controlled by the people by way of voting. That doesn't seem contradictory.

But you tell that to someone who studies this more seriously and they look like I've grown three heads. I don't get it TBH.

Ledivin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 8h

I would argue that "democratic" and "libertarian" are inherently at odds, but otherwise agree (and believe most people do)

Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 3h

I think most people would just call that libertarian socialism. In general some form of public political participation is implied when you say youre a socialist

kestrel7_7@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3h

You’re doing fine, it sounds like the people you’re talking to aren’t as politically educated as you think they are.

13igTyme@piefed.social · 11 pts · 20h

Combine a good, honest socialist mayor with probably the richest city in the US by tax revenue and this is what's happening. Constant improvements and actual policies that are good.

IMALlama@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 19h (2 replies)

Unless I'm missing something, this has been in the works since at least 2024. I'm pretty sure I heard about this on a podcast a few months ago, but I'm struggling to dig it up.

Spur4383@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 19h (1 reply)

The bins in that article are 55 gallon household ones. The ones on the article are almost car sized and stay on the side of the street. Those are not the same ideas of hire to pick up trash.

Treczoks@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 22h

They got rich.

Antares@fedinsfw.app · 10 pts · 22h

I think i know who these are for

Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 8h

other mayors were/are pocketing that money

EmptyAsparagus@piefed.social · 7 pts · 4h (1 reply)

corruption. they were lining their pockets with corruption.

Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 3h

Just you wait. Any day now the connection between mamdani and big trash will become obvious

brave_lemmywinks@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 21h

Its bad enough that they're corrupt, but they didn't have to be completely incompetent.

Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 18h
100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it · 6 pts · 12h (3 replies)

What make them modern?

They can only be accessed with a keycard by building staff or sanitation workers, adding a layer of control that city officials say will reduce mess and illegal dumping.

No dumpster diving in NYC.

Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 11h

Under rules like the New York State Food Donation and Food Scraps Recovery Law, major commercial food waste generators must separate and recycle or donate their food scraps instead of trashing them.

bountygiver@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 10h (1 reply)

It's still a real health hazard. Stopping dumpster diving is not inherently bad, the bad thing is what causes people to need to dumpster dive in the first place.

Olhonestjim@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 8h

Reduce, reuse, recycle programs ought to remove the incentive to dig for free stuff too.

shweddy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 20h

Getting citizenship to albania and taking brides from Turkish nationals

mlatu@moist.catsweat.com · 4 pts · 22h

coke

Shameless@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 20h (1 reply)

This is awesome to see. I was astonished when I visited by the amount of piles of trash bags you would see piled up in certain spots. It was very easy to see why there were often so many rats and cockroaches around.

Good to see someone taking sanitation seriously.

bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 18h

Manhattan was famously built with almost no alley ways to save space so the only place to put the garbage is on the street. You'll literally have piles of garbage and yet people won't want to give up a few parking spaces to put dumpsters in, so that garbage is all out on the sidewalk. It's disgusting.

Blackmist@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 3h

Well if Rudy was anything to go by, trying to bang underage girls and sweating away the last vestiges of their credibility in a landscaping company forecourt.

bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 19h

Profiting.

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 16h

Fraud.

Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3h

What you really need are the TARDIS bins and a Moncher

https://youtube.com/shorts/x0PiVL0EcC4?is=TZrtiXZSLPJRuHEI

TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 21h

inb4 they get those sick-ass underground ones featured in NJB (probably not given all the existing underground infra, but a man can dream).

Bootyhole@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 59m

These are about to pop up in Williamsburg for 1260 a month. I joke, but, there's truth in every joke. People are prob already boosting these things to be used as housing come November

boaratio@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 13h

He wasn't the mayor, but he's from New York City.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Weiner

Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 22h (1 reply)

Shoulda spread em out better

wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 20h

These aren't the only ones in the entire city. NYC has lots of people. Lots of people produce lots of trash. That means multiple dumpsters are needed in each place, so they don't overflow between collections.

I'm sure there was math involved. Something about the expected collection schedule, and estimations of how much trash is produced per day.

Besides, it's better to put 3 or 4 bins in one spot rather than spread them out every couple hundred meters. It keeps the stink contained to specific locations.

IndieGoblin@lemmy.4d2.org · -3 pts · 5h (1 reply)

They were doing the exact same thing just with a pr team

Pacattack57@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 5h

If they were doing the same thing there would be nothing for Mamdani to fix

LT_Columbo@feddit.online · -10 pts · 17h (3 replies)

Socialism:

Everyone starves to death but at least the garbage is in bins.

guy@piefed.social · 4 pts · 15h

lmao you might mistake socialism for authoritarianism

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 16h

You insult the good name of Detective Columbo.

iWannaTryITall@fedinsfw.app · 2 pts · 10h

Ya jackass