That's it. The last 'FUCK' was one too much. I am now lost and deeply rotten forever, no longer able to live as a normal human being. The 'FUCK' is now a part of myself. This is, what all the demure people have warned me about. /j
i wish i could communicate with spiders electronically through an application adjacent to direct messaging or group chats on social media. visually and physically they freak me out but if i could have casual conversations with them without having to look at them i would indeed be interested in being friends if the platonic chemistry were right. i would also happily tell them about where i see flies that bother me and places where their webs would be safe from my unintended interference.
I assume the best you can do is behavior capture and selective breeding. Feed the most inoffensive ones. Kill the ones that violate the treaty. In a few years, you could have a household of nearly invisible spiders that are somehow also always nearby.
I'm hoping for something more like cats. They handle the pest control and I just offer them food, shelter, healthcare, entertainment and maybe some scritches behind the cephalothorax from time to time.
A black spider set up house in the corner of my bathroom next to the automatic nightlight at the start of summer. He/she(?) has been quite successful at hunting flies. There is a pile below the web of about 15 or 20 tiny black packages, neatly wrapped. I almost never see flies in the house, I don't know how the spider has caught so many--yes, I understand those two things are related, but it seems like I'd see them flying around before they got caught in the web. Also, I'm not certain they're flies, but they all look the same and are about the right size, and I don't know what else they could be, I don't see any other bugs in the house.
Anyhoo, I'm debating what I should do about the spider, if anything. One is fine, but I do not want hundreds more.
Also, I’m not certain they’re flies, but they all look the same and are about the right size, and I don’t know what else they could be
When a spider is done with it's food quite often all that is left is a crumpled up ball of chitin, so you usually can't tell afterwards.
Anyhoo, I’m debating what I should do about the spider, if anything. One is fine, but I do not want hundreds more.
I occasionally have egg sacs hatching in my flat and it's not a problem. Most spiders commonly found indoors only produce egg sacs with few dozen eggs. They will usually disperse within a day or two. Maybe crack a window to allow more of them outside ... but most will just die and mix into your regular household dust.
If y'all spiders are going to live in my home you need to stay where the bugs are. Not on the ceiling directly over my pillow. And not in the bed! Under the bed, you'll probably never be noticed and you're welcome to eat the dust bunnies and bogeymen. Under the oven range, sure. I can't reach down back there and you're probably doing good work. But dude, there's no food for you in the shower, and you're gonna drown, just stay out!
That's not quite true. Take cellar spiders for example. They are evolved for living in caves, which put a great constraint on where they could live. But we came along and covered that planet in perfectly good "caves" for them and now they are one of the most widespread spiders there are.
So they are quite capable of living outdoors (unless you count caves as indoors), but without us there would be a lot fewer places for them to live.
Other spiders might use the indoors to extend their life span. Tegenaria spp. for example are mostly seasonal in the wild (meaning, they only live for one year and only the offspring makes it to the next year) but indoors some have been reported to be up to 7 years old.
So it's not like that they unsuited to live outdoors, it's just that indoors suits them much better. We usually call these spiders "synantropic".
Good question. Someone should try it ... there might be PhD in it!
But Pholcidae (the cellar spider family) is probably the only spider that has an established population in Antarctic. And it's entirely within our Antarctic research stations ... because they are just so good at living in human storage spaces.
Even if all humans would go away suddenly ... our structures will survive to some degree. So the cellar spiders will probably be fine.
Maybe you have the wrong kind of spider. If you have too many spiders they might be too preoccupied eating themselves. I have a huge ass spider at home that looks like a wolf spider, but i doubt it. About once a week i pull him out of a web and have to untangle his feet
I kinda miss the wolf spider that lived in my bathroom window. Such a chill little roommate. It just kinda showed up one day, set up its little web, and we each just minded our own business.
I kept my showers short, never opened the window, and if I swatted a fly in the kitchen, I'd deposit it in its web. Never gave me much in return. But that's fine. I was just happy to have its company.
Then it wasn't a wolf spider. They don't build webs* and are active prowling hunters that won't stick around in one place for long. Window sills are usually prime funnel-weaver (Agelenidae) real estate.
*There a few exceptions like Sosippus bit it's only a handful out of over 2500 wolf spider species that build webs.
Yes, it's a very common thing that spiders of all sorts do. But by far the most common spiders that do that are funnel-weavers in the Agelenidae family. It's probably one of those for you and the original commentor.
I had a spider who lived under my shower basin at a previous house. I never bothered him and he must have been eating something since he hung around for a long time. Cool dude.
At one point in my life I was living in a dank California basement room, spending 99% of my time in bed due to a severe mental health crisis, 2 years straight.
One night I saw a spider chilling at the bottom of one of my bedposts. I took a picture of it and went back to bed.
8 years later I used image search to identify what kind of spider it was.
The problem with that story is that there are no brown recluses in California. They have some desert recluses in the south-east, but they barely interact with humans.
It was a brown recluse the size of my hand.
They also don't get this big. You most certainly misidentified some other brown spider.
If you still have the picture feel free to send it to me or post it to !spiders@lemmy.world and I'll take a look.
I'm not getting a very good picture of the actual spider here but I have to agree with the first AI suggestion from what I'm seeing. Reluctantly. Definitely not a recluse, though.
Apparently it's either a False Wolf Spider or a Southern House Spider, the former often confused with the brown recluse according to the Google image search result and my own personal experience lol.
Looking at it again it's probably not nearly as large as my hand, but still quite large of all the spiders I've seen myself IRL.
Poor thing lost a leg on the left! But yeah, Titiotus is a very good suggestion, checks all the boxes ... it kind of annoys me because I probably wouldn't have thought of Zoropsidae, because we only have the one here in Europe.
I'm terribly sorry to my spider friends. You see, I'm an ADHD creature and that means there aren't really much of routines to learn. Must be frustrating for them!
Australian here, living in Australia: do other countries not have spiderbros the size of your hand who hunt down mosquitoes and flies and roaches without using webs because webs are for losers?
Northeastern US dude here - not where I'm at. We have garden spiders, which get pretty big, but they like to make webs; and nursery web spiders, which hunt actively and get pretty big, but they don't get that big.
Oh, and we have these things. They're pretty well up there in terms of size, but they mostly just eat fish.
Every year it takes a few times of walking through a web near the house entrance before they keep the webs only up in the corners. Not sure if it's adaptive or the ones who get webs destroyed by my face die off but somehow they always figure it out.
September is typically spider time (in western Europe).
I suppose young spiders haven't learnt their spider etiquette yet, or they just use their spider wire to fly around more than big spiders I assume.
There's a solid chance the spiders whose webs were destroyed are dying off. Building an entire web is a pretty biologically costly process as I understand it, and having its method of catching food destroyed doesn't bode well for a spider's chances of making a new one
House spiders are almost exclusively harmless and gain a terrible reputation. Down here in the south east we have an abundance of orb weaver spiders.
Absolutely gorgeous and, for the most part, totally harmless. I genuinely don't understand why people are so terrified of these things. Spiders are one of the reasons we're not completely overrun with insects and other pests, and most species would much rather avoid us than have anything to do with us.
The brown recluse and black widow should obviously be treated with respect, but even they are highly misunderstood. Neither species is particularly aggressive toward humans, and bites are relatively uncommon. They generally bite only when threatened, trapped against the skin, or otherwise disturbed. Their reputation is considerably worse than their actual behavior.
Spiders aren't out looking for people to bite. They're predators doing an extremely useful job of keeping insect populations under control. Unless you have a medically significant species in your home, there's usually very little reason to be afraid of them and quite a few reasons to appreciate them.
I love spiders, but they still creep me out. So I prefer to bring them away if they’re in my house. Garage is neutral territory, mostly. But when a Wolf Spider and I both scare the crap out of each other, it gives me heebie jeebies tho
My cat was getting into the basement at my exes house, and the spiders SENT A FUCKING MESSAGE. They got their biggest guy to come up and perch on the toilet paper in the bathroom. I decided I didn't need to pee and secured the basement door better from then on.
I had to evict the jumping spider that lived in my curtains for 2 years because I was moving, I felt terrible. That little lady worked hard and earned her place, I offered to bring her to the new apartment, but she declined, I wish her the best.
My garage has vents to the outside, so those bastards tend to come in at will through them at night. Every now and then, I'll have a late night at the bars, and they get to meet the bottom of my shoe or a propane torch. I don't care how "considerate" they are being.
Spiders are great. Just today my husband cheered me up while I'm sick by saying a new spider moved in on the porch last night and it caught a huge bug. I oozed my way outdoors so I could view it's work.
People need to start learning and stop being such babies. They are small in comparison to you and most can't or don't want to hurt you, only biting when you try to squish them.
Note: Australia is exempt from all that. You do you, boo.
Note2: excellent webwork and indeed a large bug
I love having spiders in my residence. Sometimes I find them stuck in the bathtub or sink and I save them and let them go free. Like yes my spider bro, keep eating the fruit flies and other annoying bugs. I like the little creepy centipede looking bugs also because they eat bedbugs and other insects. (Spiders and other natural predators of bedbugs will not mitigate an active bed bug infestation.)
spiders freak me the fuck out, i am so terrified of them, they shouldn't move that fast, they shouldn't be able to put someone in the hospital by biting them. But i do respect what they do, so I tend to leave them alone most the time, unless they are active in the house, then I need my husband to remove the spider.
Not exactly related but a huge wasp got into my house today. It chose to hide in a lamp in the corner of the room. I taped it closed with duct tape. I stood there listening to it being cooked alive, gotta switch those bulbs to LEDs lol, and stick to the tape. It died. I kinda felt bad since I gave it the 1940's treatment.
I don't believe it's really possible in practice to actually die from a spider bite in my area, although we do have spiders here which are considered "deadly" and there's plenty of these around. Our kids are 3 year old twins. They love being outside but have no awareness of friendly vs deadly bugs.
You can buy poison / repellent stuff from the hardware store. Don't mess around with a pressurised can. Get the 3 or 4L bottle of something bifenthrin based. Mix & pour into one of those big pump spray bottle things, you want one with a wand.
Then spray the places around the outside of your house, fences, and garage where spiders would like to be. Do this twice a year. I do it once after the end of the rain season, and again 6 months later.
It's quicker and easier than mowing the lawn, and it avoids having webs everywhere outside, and huntsman-surprise inside.
So, you're the bee killer. Bifenthrin is banned throughout the EU because of its impact on pollinators. It is toxic to birds and highly toxic to aquatic life with long lasting effects. Recent studies in mice suggest bifenthrin exposure contributes to the pathogenesis of Parkinson's Disease and is linked to autism. I hope you don't let your kids play around it.
Settle down mate, there's no need to be a cunt about it.
You're conflating residential use with agricultural use. Bifenthrin is not "banned throughout the EU", it's restricted from agricultural use.
The studies you're referring to talk about dosages starting from 0.01 mg/kg per day. That's something like 1ml a week for a toddler. They're not going to "catch autism" from playing near the fence I sprayed with bifenthrin a month ago.
Well I'm not spraying vegetation and there's no run off.
Again, the research you're referring to regarding harm to wildlife concerns agricultural use in which plants are sprayed, which obviously effects polinators coming into contact with them.
Get a lot of flies in your house? Because I don't get any, due to my friendly neighbourhood spider.
Kids make you functionally paranoid, I won't fault your decisions though. I learned about spiders at that age, listened to my mum about them and developed a phobia, so hopefully your kids will not grow up being way too afraid of them and can have spiders in their house when they grow up. Good luck!
Beautiful down there. After living in SE NSW for so long, I drove around the country a while ago and when I got to southwest WA I kept thinking "holy shit, this has been here the whole time??!?".
The northern bits with the alien-looking baobabs everywhere are also pretty amazing, but living up there would be tough, unlike near those karri forests. Phwoar.
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edgemaster72@lemmy.world · 167 pts · 1d
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Zacryon@feddit.org · 12 pts · 1d
That's it. The last 'FUCK' was one too much. I am now lost and deeply rotten forever, no longer able to live as a normal human being. The 'FUCK' is now a part of myself. This is, what all the demure people have warned me about. /j
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 1d
Shoutout to the censored version censoring the word Fuck but not Fucking.
starik@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 6h
Engagement successfully baited
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Thank you for your service
Draegur@lemmy.zip · 45 pts · 1d
i wish i could communicate with spiders electronically through an application adjacent to direct messaging or group chats on social media. visually and physically they freak me out but if i could have casual conversations with them without having to look at them i would indeed be interested in being friends if the platonic chemistry were right. i would also happily tell them about where i see flies that bother me and places where their webs would be safe from my unintended interference.
Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 1d
I assume the best you can do is behavior capture and selective breeding. Feed the most inoffensive ones. Kill the ones that violate the treaty. In a few years, you could have a household of nearly invisible spiders that are somehow also always nearby.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 3 pts · 18h
That's actually a good idea, though, don't capture them otherwise you are just making the spider equivalent of a dog
Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 13h
I'm hoping for something more like cats. They handle the pest control and I just offer them food, shelter, healthcare, entertainment and maybe some scritches behind the cephalothorax from time to time.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 1d
A black spider set up house in the corner of my bathroom next to the automatic nightlight at the start of summer. He/she(?) has been quite successful at hunting flies. There is a pile below the web of about 15 or 20 tiny black packages, neatly wrapped. I almost never see flies in the house, I don't know how the spider has caught so many--yes, I understand those two things are related, but it seems like I'd see them flying around before they got caught in the web. Also, I'm not certain they're flies, but they all look the same and are about the right size, and I don't know what else they could be, I don't see any other bugs in the house.
Anyhoo, I'm debating what I should do about the spider, if anything. One is fine, but I do not want hundreds more.
jqubed@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1d
Spider bro!
tyra@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 1d
Most likely a female spider, if it‘s actively hunting!
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 22h
Yeah. I wasn't sure, but I thought that was the case.
remon@ani.social · 5 pts · 22h
When a spider is done with it's food quite often all that is left is a crumpled up ball of chitin, so you usually can't tell afterwards.
I occasionally have egg sacs hatching in my flat and it's not a problem. Most spiders commonly found indoors only produce egg sacs with few dozen eggs. They will usually disperse within a day or two. Maybe crack a window to allow more of them outside ... but most will just die and mix into your regular household dust.
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 1d
You sure those aren't mouse droppings?
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 22h
I know mouse droppings. These are not mouse droppings.
phx@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
We had a big spider that did similar outside the bathroom window. Every time somebody went in at night to use the can, lights on=bugs in web.
I was sad when fall came and that spider died. She was a clever one
Schmoo@slrpnk.net · 27 pts · 22h
Good luck to the spiders trying to learn the routine I don't have.
philipp_@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 15h
Your spider will be scheduling an ADHD diagnosis appointment for you soon.
traxex@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 21h
What an absolute vibe. Same here.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 14h
"Sir, it doesn't appear to exist."
"That's impossible, Wilkins. Run your test again. You can forget about lunch."
"I've run it 7 times, sir. It's...his days are totally...random. Anyway, they're serving Eggplant. No thank you."
"My God, Wilkins. We're doomed. Did they have any chicken fingers?"
almost1337@lemmy.zip · 22 pts · 1d
The spiders that live in our houses are also often unsuited or unable to live outdoors.
Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 1d
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 1d
If y'all spiders are going to live in my home you need to stay where the bugs are. Not on the ceiling directly over my pillow. And not in the bed! Under the bed, you'll probably never be noticed and you're welcome to eat the dust bunnies and bogeymen. Under the oven range, sure. I can't reach down back there and you're probably doing good work. But dude, there's no food for you in the shower, and you're gonna drown, just stay out!
musubibreakfast@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
Nah, they're eating all the bugs that try to crawl into your nose and mouth while you sleep.
remon@ani.social · 8 pts · 1d
That's not quite true. Take cellar spiders for example. They are evolved for living in caves, which put a great constraint on where they could live. But we came along and covered that planet in perfectly good "caves" for them and now they are one of the most widespread spiders there are.
So they are quite capable of living outdoors (unless you count caves as indoors), but without us there would be a lot fewer places for them to live.
Other spiders might use the indoors to extend their life span. Tegenaria spp. for example are mostly seasonal in the wild (meaning, they only live for one year and only the offspring makes it to the next year) but indoors some have been reported to be up to 7 years old.
So it's not like that they unsuited to live outdoors, it's just that indoors suits them much better. We usually call these spiders "synantropic".
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 14h
Well are those specific cellar spiders still able to, or have we softened them? Could one who's only lived in a cellar pick up and move to a cave?
remon@ani.social · 1 pts · 14h
Good question. Someone should try it ... there might be PhD in it!
But Pholcidae (the cellar spider family) is probably the only spider that has an established population in Antarctic. And it's entirely within our Antarctic research stations ... because they are just so good at living in human storage spaces.
Even if all humans would go away suddenly ... our structures will survive to some degree. So the cellar spiders will probably be fine.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 9h
Well I would try it, but none of the caves around here have wifi.
bassad@jlai.lu · 21 pts · 1d
Love spiders. They clean my home of bugs, flies, roach. But some damn mosquitoes are still out there, should I bring in more spiders?
Phunter@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 1d
You're on the free tier subscription. To reduce mosquitos, you have to upgrade.
Edit: wrong thing.
fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com · 14 pts · 1d
I need to know what the edit was
FatVegan@leminal.space · 6 pts · 1d
Maybe you have the wrong kind of spider. If you have too many spiders they might be too preoccupied eating themselves. I have a huge ass spider at home that looks like a wolf spider, but i doubt it. About once a week i pull him out of a web and have to untangle his feet
Digit@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 1d
Wouldn't that more correctly be
(tarsuses?)
And, how did you manage to determine his sex?
musubibreakfast@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1d
we matched on hinge
Im_old@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
you fell in his web
ba-dum tsh
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 1d
But is he into bondage?
musubibreakfast@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
Sounds to me like you need bigger and faster spiders.
GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 21h
I kinda miss the wolf spider that lived in my bathroom window. Such a chill little roommate. It just kinda showed up one day, set up its little web, and we each just minded our own business.
I kept my showers short, never opened the window, and if I swatted a fly in the kitchen, I'd deposit it in its web. Never gave me much in return. But that's fine. I was just happy to have its company.
remon@ani.social · 16 pts · 20h
Then it wasn't a wolf spider. They don't build webs* and are active prowling hunters that won't stick around in one place for long. Window sills are usually prime funnel-weaver (Agelenidae) real estate.
*There a few exceptions like Sosippus bit it's only a handful out of over 2500 wolf spider species that build webs.
cheers_queers@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 14h
the ones in my area build a tunnel out of webs and sit inside it
remon@ani.social · 1 pts · 14h
Yes, it's a very common thing that spiders of all sorts do. But by far the most common spiders that do that are funnel-weavers in the Agelenidae family. It's probably one of those for you and the original commentor.
banazir@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 15h
I had a spider who lived under my shower basin at a previous house. I never bothered him and he must have been eating something since he hung around for a long time. Cool dude.
TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id · 9 pts · 14h
There's a spider in my garage named Shelob. She eats mice. I live in Scotland and this is not normal.
At least I don't have to set mice traps.
Seasm0ke@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 14h
Yo how big is this fkn spider
TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id · 5 pts · 14h
Big enough to eat mice.
AnalogAllamma@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 1d
At one point in my life I was living in a dank California basement room, spending 99% of my time in bed due to a severe mental health crisis, 2 years straight.
One night I saw a spider chilling at the bottom of one of my bedposts. I took a picture of it and went back to bed.
8 years later I used image search to identify what kind of spider it was.
It was a brown recluse the size of my hand.
remon@ani.social · 20 pts · 22h
The problem with that story is that there are no brown recluses in California. They have some desert recluses in the south-east, but they barely interact with humans.
They also don't get this big. You most certainly misidentified some other brown spider.
If you still have the picture feel free to send it to me or post it to !spiders@lemmy.world and I'll take a look.
AnalogAllamma@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 21h
You're right!
remon@ani.social · 4 pts · 15h
I'm not getting a very good picture of the actual spider here but I have to agree with the first AI suggestion from what I'm seeing. Reluctantly. Definitely not a recluse, though.
AnalogAllamma@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 15h
Apparently it's either a False Wolf Spider or a Southern House Spider, the former often confused with the brown recluse according to the Google image search result and my own personal experience lol.
Looking at it again it's probably not nearly as large as my hand, but still quite large of all the spiders I've seen myself IRL.
remon@ani.social · 2 pts · 15h
Poor thing lost a leg on the left! But yeah, Titiotus is a very good suggestion, checks all the boxes ... it kind of annoys me because I probably wouldn't have thought of Zoropsidae, because we only have the one here in Europe.
AnalogAllamma@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 21h
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 5 pts · 22h
Actually, it bit you and you died. Welcome to hell.
ProfessorHoover@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 5h
If we're all in their hell it explains why things went downhill so much faster 8 years ago.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 19h
Let this be a lesson in not trusting overconfident bullshit machines haha
Klear@piefed.world · 14 pts · 1d
Don't just thank them replace your shitty censored version with it
needanke@feddit.org · 5 pts · 22h
No need to be rude about it.
Klear@piefed.world · -3 pts · 22h
Are you offended that I'm rude towards a meme ?! Get lost.
Caesium@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 21h
I mean you're being rude towards the person who posted the meme, not the Pic itself lol
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 15h
The spiders in my room are very concerned about how little sleep I'm getting and how irregular my bedtime is
Lehmuusa@nord.pub · 12 pts · 1d
I'm terribly sorry to my spider friends. You see, I'm an ADHD creature and that means there aren't really much of routines to learn. Must be frustrating for them!
Zwiebel@feddit.org · 7 pts · 21h
Give yourself some credit, you're rarely walking on the ceiling
makou@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 1d
I would 100% prefer seeing spiders in my home than mosquites and cockroaches, but then again I dont live in Australia and spiders are tiny asf
teslekova@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 8h
Australian here, living in Australia: do other countries not have spiderbros the size of your hand who hunt down mosquitoes and flies and roaches without using webs because webs are for losers?
makou@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 5h
I live in Mediterranea, we only have like thousands of mosquitos at summer and cockroaches, especially if you leave at ground floor.
MightBeAlpharius@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 7h
Northeastern US dude here - not where I'm at. We have garden spiders, which get pretty big, but they like to make webs; and nursery web spiders, which hunt actively and get pretty big, but they don't get that big.
Oh, and we have these things. They're pretty well up there in terms of size, but they mostly just eat fish.
Zwiebel@feddit.org · 11 pts · 1d
We build some pretty ballin caves
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 22h
Every year it takes a few times of walking through a web near the house entrance before they keep the webs only up in the corners. Not sure if it's adaptive or the ones who get webs destroyed by my face die off but somehow they always figure it out.
CareHare@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 22h
September is typically spider time (in western Europe). I suppose young spiders haven't learnt their spider etiquette yet, or they just use their spider wire to fly around more than big spiders I assume.
RunawayFixer@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 21h
Autumn is mating season for spiders, it's when a lot of them come out of hiding in search of some sexy times.
Dabundis@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 14h
There's a solid chance the spiders whose webs were destroyed are dying off. Building an entire web is a pretty biologically costly process as I understand it, and having its method of catching food destroyed doesn't bode well for a spider's chances of making a new one
mechoman444@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 12h
House spiders are almost exclusively harmless and gain a terrible reputation. Down here in the south east we have an abundance of orb weaver spiders.
Absolutely gorgeous and, for the most part, totally harmless. I genuinely don't understand why people are so terrified of these things. Spiders are one of the reasons we're not completely overrun with insects and other pests, and most species would much rather avoid us than have anything to do with us.
The brown recluse and black widow should obviously be treated with respect, but even they are highly misunderstood. Neither species is particularly aggressive toward humans, and bites are relatively uncommon. They generally bite only when threatened, trapped against the skin, or otherwise disturbed. Their reputation is considerably worse than their actual behavior.
Spiders aren't out looking for people to bite. They're predators doing an extremely useful job of keeping insect populations under control. Unless you have a medically significant species in your home, there's usually very little reason to be afraid of them and quite a few reasons to appreciate them.
updn@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 11h
I love spiders, but they still creep me out. So I prefer to bring them away if they’re in my house. Garage is neutral territory, mostly. But when a Wolf Spider and I both scare the crap out of each other, it gives me heebie jeebies tho
wh90b@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 13h
My cat was getting into the basement at my exes house, and the spiders SENT A FUCKING MESSAGE. They got their biggest guy to come up and perch on the toilet paper in the bathroom. I decided I didn't need to pee and secured the basement door better from then on.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 13h
I had to evict the jumping spider that lived in my curtains for 2 years because I was moving, I felt terrible. That little lady worked hard and earned her place, I offered to bring her to the new apartment, but she declined, I wish her the best.
dismay3915@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
I have figured cockroaches do the same
parrhesia@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 10h
Not the ones I knew in life
Raiderkev@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 19h
My garage has vents to the outside, so those bastards tend to come in at will through them at night. Every now and then, I'll have a late night at the bars, and they get to meet the bottom of my shoe or a propane torch. I don't care how "considerate" they are being.
lemmygarden@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 1d
I scold the spiders in my home and tell them, "Do your job!!" when there are flying bugs in my home
switcheroo@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 9h
Spiders are great. Just today my husband cheered me up while I'm sick by saying a new spider moved in on the porch last night and it caught a huge bug. I oozed my way outdoors so I could view it's work.
People need to start learning and stop being such babies. They are small in comparison to you and most can't or don't want to hurt you, only biting when you try to squish them.
Note: Australia is exempt from all that. You do you, boo. Note2: excellent webwork and indeed a large bug
Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 11h
I love having spiders in my residence. Sometimes I find them stuck in the bathtub or sink and I save them and let them go free. Like yes my spider bro, keep eating the fruit flies and other annoying bugs. I like the little creepy centipede looking bugs also because they eat bedbugs and other insects. (Spiders and other natural predators of bedbugs will not mitigate an active bed bug infestation.)
anugeshtu@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 14h
What about car mirrors?
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 14h
Are the garages any different from people and houses, vs caves and tents?
ratrace@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 1d
OMGawd yes. very sensitive toooooooo sensitive 🤔
Peck@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 6h
My question was always wtf do they eat? What is it?
Obi@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 1h
The little flies and mosquitoes which would otherwise be bothering, spiders are friends.
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 15h
Sounds like it's the spider's house.
Spider: You exist because we allow it. You will end because we demand it.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 9h
If you gotta problem with spiders you gotta problem with me and I suggest you let that one marinate.
trslim@pawb.social · 1 pts · 9h
spiders freak me the fuck out, i am so terrified of them, they shouldn't move that fast, they shouldn't be able to put someone in the hospital by biting them. But i do respect what they do, so I tend to leave them alone most the time, unless they are active in the house, then I need my husband to remove the spider.
myyass@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 7h
Not exactly related but a huge wasp got into my house today. It chose to hide in a lamp in the corner of the room. I taped it closed with duct tape. I stood there listening to it being cooked alive, gotta switch those bulbs to LEDs lol, and stick to the tape. It died. I kinda felt bad since I gave it the 1940's treatment.
im_fine_sandy@nord.pub · -7 pts · 1d
I live in Western Australia.
I don't believe it's really possible in practice to actually die from a spider bite in my area, although we do have spiders here which are considered "deadly" and there's plenty of these around. Our kids are 3 year old twins. They love being outside but have no awareness of friendly vs deadly bugs.
You can buy poison / repellent stuff from the hardware store. Don't mess around with a pressurised can. Get the 3 or 4L bottle of something bifenthrin based. Mix & pour into one of those big pump spray bottle things, you want one with a wand.
Then spray the places around the outside of your house, fences, and garage where spiders would like to be. Do this twice a year. I do it once after the end of the rain season, and again 6 months later.
It's quicker and easier than mowing the lawn, and it avoids having webs everywhere outside, and huntsman-surprise inside.
l3mming@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 1d
So, you're the bee killer. Bifenthrin is banned throughout the EU because of its impact on pollinators. It is toxic to birds and highly toxic to aquatic life with long lasting effects. Recent studies in mice suggest bifenthrin exposure contributes to the pathogenesis of Parkinson's Disease and is linked to autism. I hope you don't let your kids play around it.
musubibreakfast@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
If my children want to play with autistic mice, then that's their god given god damn right.
-OP
im_fine_sandy@nord.pub · -4 pts · 1d
Settle down mate, there's no need to be a cunt about it.
You're conflating residential use with agricultural use. Bifenthrin is not "banned throughout the EU", it's restricted from agricultural use.
The studies you're referring to talk about dosages starting from 0.01 mg/kg per day. That's something like 1ml a week for a toddler. They're not going to "catch autism" from playing near the fence I sprayed with bifenthrin a month ago.
l3mming@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 11h
How about the bees, birds and aquatic life?
im_fine_sandy@nord.pub · 1 pts · 6h
Well I'm not spraying vegetation and there's no run off.
Again, the research you're referring to regarding harm to wildlife concerns agricultural use in which plants are sprayed, which obviously effects polinators coming into contact with them.
FatVegan@leminal.space · 10 pts · 1d
Weird how we all got cancer and all the animals keep dying around our house.
teslekova@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 8h
Get a lot of flies in your house? Because I don't get any, due to my friendly neighbourhood spider.
Kids make you functionally paranoid, I won't fault your decisions though. I learned about spiders at that age, listened to my mum about them and developed a phobia, so hopefully your kids will not grow up being way too afraid of them and can have spiders in their house when they grow up. Good luck!
im_fine_sandy@nord.pub · 2 pts · 6h
No, we don't actually.
We live on the south coast so the small flies are only around for a few weeks, and the bigger ones never get too problematic.
Spiders don't really control flies. Plenty of flies in the bush. A couple of flies a week is ample sustenance even for a large spider.
teslekova@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 4h
Beautiful down there. After living in SE NSW for so long, I drove around the country a while ago and when I got to southwest WA I kept thinking "holy shit, this has been here the whole time??!?".
The northern bits with the alien-looking baobabs everywhere are also pretty amazing, but living up there would be tough, unlike near those karri forests. Phwoar.