Not a big fan of O'Keefe, but I like this!
DOJ does damage control as staffer admits Republicans will be redacted from Epstein files
https://www.rawstory.com/doj-epstein-redact-republicans/
https://www.rawstory.com/doj-epstein-redact-republicans/
Not a big fan of O'Keefe, but I like this!
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NaibofTabr@infosec.pub · 249 pts · 334d
So we should assume every redacted name is a Republican, got it.
Boddhisatva@lemmy.world · 157 pts · 334d
TheLowestStone@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 334d
Nah, some aren't wealthy enough.
wheezy@lemmy.ml · 24 pts · 333d
When MTG is the voice of reason in that party recently. You know something is wrong.
She legitimately the only person I can believe wasn't connected to Epstein. And she's too stupid to realize that a real investigation leads to Trump and her in denial doing a 180.
I'm watching her with popcorn in hand.
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 333d
It is a power struggle between grifters. When they smell blood in the water they try to climb themselves.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 333d
Crabs in a barrel
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 333d
The rubber bands need to come off already!
nieminen@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 333d
She's only doing it to keep her seat. Should still be replaced. While she's weirdly actually doing her doing her actual job and listening to her constituents, it's just a stop-gap until she's reelected, then she'll go back to shouting "Jewish space lasers" or whatever the hell and pandering to whatever Republican president is in office.
jordanlund@lemmy.world · 76 pts · 334d
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Republicans: "SEE! BILL CLINTON IS THE ONLY NAME ON THE LIST!!!"
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 333d
and three Joos.
danc4498@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 334d
I say we replace all redactions with Trump’s name.
Bosht@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 334d
Nah. He for sure is on there. I want them all to burn.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 111 pts · 334d
So, what we need is the list from the victims read into record by AOC or the like. That's all I'd trust.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 334d
Do it now and no one gets held accountable.
Do it after republicans start prosecution of the Dems and it becomes much harder to bury the whole thing.
Plus, it gets rid of a shit ton of problematic Dems. If they were raping kids with Epstein, they're also doing way worse shit to prevent that from coming out.
That was the whole point, accumulate dirt, then blackmail.
In 2026 only one party will be able to say zero incumbents were named in the Epstein list, and every republican incumbent has to defend not holding their peers accountable, or even personally being on the list themselves.
trump trying to use corrupt Dems as sacrificial lambs is going to bite him in the ass
CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social · 21 pts · 334d
Assuming that is that they merely remove themselves from the list and leave whatever dems are on in. If theyre willing to edit the thing to remove themselves however, can they be trusted to not add people they particularly dont like, or remove any dems on the list that they are concerned might out the rest of the list if prosecuted?
Deceptichum@quokk.au · 16 pts · 334d
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 333d
Because people like you pre-excuse nothing happening by saying shit like this. Republicans see this narrative continuing and know they can ignore it without consequences
cannon_annon88@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 334d
I hope every little thing he has done comes back to bite him in the ass.
PunnyName@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 334d
COVID could have, but didn't. He's called "Teflon" for a reason. I hate this timeline.
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 334d
Why would they be held accountable? Republicans will just claim the names are a targeted attack as a last ditch effort by the Dems fabricated and paid for or some shit and then point to their own doctored documents as proof.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 334d
Because if Dems can legitimately clear the very low bar of "no one here was in the Epstein list" we're likely to get enough seats that it literally doesn't matter what Republicans claim.
1/3 of the country doesn't vote, this would get a significant amount more to vote.
Couple that with the DNC changes, primarily reinvesting in state parties...
And this is the most optimistic I've ever been about America long term.
But the next 1-3 years are going to be pretty close to the worst.
Gotta find the silver linings.
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 334d
Idk man, dollars to donuts Clinton is on it. You say it’s a low bar, but idk how much faith I’d put in our rich
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 334d
If be shocked if he wasn't...
That's my point, the people legitimately on it that are prosecuted because trump doesn't like them, are still being prosecuted and removed not just from the party but the all of society if they're jailed.
You're looking it as the politicians are the party. I'm talking about it like the voters are the party. And we're better off without the child rapists hanging around us making ng us look bad.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 333d
how soon we forget Slick Willie was getting BJs in the oval office and he was BFF with Donald while snorkeling at Epstein island.
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 334d
Politicians aren’t the party, but that will be the justification for the Republicans
papertowels@mander.xyz · 34 pts · 334d
AOC and MTG, side by side, reading from the same document. Just AOC alone would let conservatives shrug off every consequential name.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 83 pts · 334d
They won't release it.
Because if they release a list with only Dem names on it, surely there will be a former Biden Admin official with a copy of the full unredacted list, and they could just release that as retaliation.
Neither party would want to release it, because its M.A.D. at this point.
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca · 51 pts · 334d
If there IS a hypothetical former Biden official with the full unredacted documents who doesn't have the courage to leak them, this hypothetical person needs to be hung from the nearest hypothetical tree.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 333d
Lots of MAGA claimed to want the swamp drained. Maybe a "true Qanon" person would also leak the list.
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 333d
Yeah, sure would be nice if they actually had political beliefs or principles they weren’t willing to discard when it made their garbage worldview inconvenient.
fodor@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 334d
Gates9@sh.itjust.works · 23 pts · 334d
InputZero@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 333d
It's almost like the Republicans are using the Epstein files as a way to distract everyone from them taking cudgel to the foundation of democracy and the Democrats are playing right into it. What if the files were released today, would any representative or senator really see any consequences? Would any of them sit before a judge? Will it be something else for them to yell at each other instead of addressing the real elephant in the room, the governments abject failure at governing. Cause you know, we could just believe the survivors. I trust them over anything the government releases at this point.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 333d
The genocide plus child rape will surely be the catalyst we need to stop voting for representatives who support FPTP.
BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz · 67 pts · 334d
Good! The LAST thing we Would want is for Republican Child Rapists to be CAUGHT! PROTECT THE REPUBLICAN CHILD RAPISTS!
betanumerus@lemmy.ca · 60 pts · 333d
Showroom7561@lemmy.ca · 34 pts · 333d
LOL. Was there any doubt?
fox2263@lemmy.world · 58 pts · 334d
Hopefully they leave in all the black redactions and not just delete them.
That way we can see how many republicans were redacted.
However I fear they’re also fabricating and just adding as many enemies they need to it for a large night of long knives. Like their version of Project Insight.
bold_atlas@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 333d
It'll literally be a notepad file called "jeffrey epstein list.txt" that list every democrat reps and senator.
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip · 25 pts · 333d
jeffrey epstein list(1)(1) final(1).txt
RunningInRVA@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 333d
Don’t forget to prefix with “Copy of Copy of”
dirthawker0@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 333d
It'll be a series of .jpgs with poorly blanked-out spaces and names of Democrats added, in a different font and not at all fitting into the blank spaces.
dermanus@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 333d
Hopefully they fuck up the redaction and someone just deletes the black boxes from the pdf. It's happened before.
SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml · 48 pts · 334d
An easy solution is to not redact anything.
This is ONLY a problem if the guilty are in charge.
taiyang@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 334d
Technically there are still anonymous victims in the documents, but yes. You can usually tell from context that the only redacted names are victims if this is done right.
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works · 39 pts · 334d
Dude they are never releasing the full files. This is all just a fucking tease and while they're busy pretending to be bringing the hammer of justice down all the pedophiles they just chose to protect (once again) are casually helping set up and cement the authoritarian regime in cities across America.
Like when we reach the point that there is military patrolling every major city, elections are cancelled indefinitely for our own good, and they feel safe enough to just admit they're not releasing anything else, what do we even do?
This is like somebody who you caught robbing you, then giving you some of your stuff back to get you to shut up and not draw so much attention. Then reassuring you that you'll get the rest back soon, they just didn't feel comfortable giving it all back to you yet? What possible reason would you have to trust or believe that they'll do anything once the heat and focus has died down enough?
Sunflier@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 334d
The French had this idea
P1nkman@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 334d
I can hear the original! Peanut butter jelly time 🤘
MagicShel@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 333d
It's choppin' off their heads time
Choppin' off their heads time
Choppin' off their heads time
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 333d
lovable!
pupbiru@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 333d
whilst i think every reasonable person wants everyone on a hypothetical epstein list (only saying hypothetical because we don’t honestly know what’s actually there to be released: doubtful it’s as simple as a list) to be brought to justice, the point at this stage is just to speak their language: MAGA can’t be trusted, and it seems the only way they realise that is with things like this… constantly point out, on common ground, that this is all hypocritical lying bullshit
Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 333d
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 333d
The core, ie the qanon cult, absolutely care. Their only reason for engaging in politics in the first place is to fight the demonic pedophile ring infesting the government. They just didn't realize they were voting for its leader.
Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 333d
pupbiru@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 333d
there’s definitely some of them that do… at the very least, there’s been a bunch of the MAGA influencers that have been pissy about it… i think that’s a useful thing to push on
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 334d
Yeah, I honestly don't understand what all the fuss is about.
The Trump admin isn't going to release a trove of documents detailing Trump's escapades.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 334d
Still better than nothing.
Purge them out of the Dem party now, and get better options in. Then they can hold the ones that were protected accountable.
Getting them out of the Dem party now just helps our chances in the next elections
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 334d
Purge the Republicans from the Democratic party?
mkwt@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 334d
I think they meant, "purge every Epstein list pedo out from the Democratic party."
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 334d
Yes, thats what they did mean, but also the other guy is right too. Lets purge republicans out of the democratic party.
I keep saying we don't have a left anymore. We have a right, and a far right. But all I get in response is people saying "BoTh SiDeS!!!"
Yes. Both sides are trying to fuck you. Why is that so hard to accept when everybody is being fucked?
snek_boi@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 334d
What I understood from the comment you replied to is that, if only Democrats appear in the Epstein Files, then each Democrat that appears will be purged from the Democratic Party. This will open spaces for better people to fill.
On the other hand, if Republicans are redacted from the Epstein Files, they will not have that pressure to leave their roles.
Of course, I could be wrong and the comment could’ve meant something different.
Alteon@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 334d
My concern is that neither side has released a list because its going to be insanely ugly. Like the most powerful people in the US....and the fallout is going to be anarchy.
I have to believe that Biden's team looked at what the fallout would look like, and their reaction was "Oh....my....god. What they did was fuckjng horrific, but the country will literally implode if we release this."
I'm all for releasing it, we need a bit of a hard reset/wake up call.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 333d
Apparently it is safer to leave these blackmail compromised people in powerful positions.
RedditAdminsSuckIt@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 334d
It’s already imploding. Let’s just implode faster. Push the reset button!
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 333d
The country won't explode, it will destroy the pedophiles legacy and future though, which is death to them. Nearly everything biden does is do gaslight people into thinking he was a great person.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 333d
people need to treat not releasing the info as though the files have the worst possible contents
hard reset is definitely needed
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 333d
Not Bernie! [sigh] Release them anyways.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 333d
Releasing the list is damage control.
The Epstein list is really just a focusing lens of much greater rage at billionaires and the elites that cover for them. They either throw some meat to satiate the wolves at their door or the wolves will want to come for them all. Americans are too American to admit their rage is all really about wealth inequality.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 332d
I wish that were true, but it isn't. A majority of Americans are too propagandized to be mad at the rich. They believe in capitalism deep in their souls, because schools have been teaching that capitalism is the best system in the world since at least the end of WWII, never mind that the US isn't even a true capitalist state.
A majority of Americans believe capitalism is a meritocracy, and that everybody who wins at capitalism is a superior person who got there on their own merits, because that's what they've been taught their entire lives. Fortunately or unfortunately, a large minority of Americans have also been completely failed by their education system and their news system, so they have all kinds of other magical beliefs, like that there's a cabal of rich and powerful who are draining children of adrenochrome. It's a really stupid conspiracy theory, but it just happens to end up pointing them at the right targets for the wrong reasons.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 333d
Interesting point of the day
RaoulDook@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 333d
Well what you're deciding to believe about that is just wrong. Members of the Biden administration did assist (D) senator Wyden's investigation into wire transfers of billions of dollars to Epstein, which is still ongoing and he has published a list of dozens of names that he found records of financial involvement with Epstein. That investigation which Biden staff cooperated with is being blocked by Trump's staff currently.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 332d
Yeah, sure. Anarchy. Let's say everybody Epstein ever hung out with is rounded up and executed. Even if that does mean that 95% of US billionaires are executed, you think that's going to result in anarchy? It's just going to finally give a chance to people who aren't rich. The only possible "anarchy" would be from these rich people refusing to go quietly. But, the rich never go quietly. They'd refuse to go quietly if it was a 2% wealth tax, and not an execution.
Also, don't forget that after his first arrest, Epstein was more or less radioactive. That was in 2008, 17 years ago. Prince Andrew did meet with him in 2010 and it was a huge news story because he obviously should have known better.
So, let's say that anybody who was 18 or younger in 2008 is safe from suspicion. Anybody younger than 18 in 2008 was possibly a victim, but was presumably too young to be preying on these underage girls. How old are those 18 year olds now? They're 35. They're old enough to run for president in 2028.
I say fuck the gerontocracy. The only people who are 100% above suspicion are the ones too young to have been involved with Epstein. Let them run things.
Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 334d
Its gonna be a short list.....
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 333d
Disagree. The list will be shorter, but it's not necessarily a short list. Being a Democrat doesn't stop someone from being a PoS.
A few years ago someone posted a list of reported sex crimes by politically affiliated people. It was about 60/40 Republicans.
Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 333d
I know, I'm just making a joke. It wasn't literal.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 333d
Nah, they'll just put in the names of everyone they don't like. The only name I'd be certain was already there is Bill Clinton's.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 333d
Isn't this something that even most Republicans suspected this corrupted government would do?
All normal Americans suspected this because, well, duh. And Republicans that suspected the government under Taco would do this because that's their idea of "justice", and they expect him and his staff to deliver it.
Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 333d
It won't stop them from bleating, "See?! That's why the left never released them - because they're the only ones on it!" when they finally come.
elbucho@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 334d
It wouldn't surprise me if this is at least partially true, but James O'Keefe has exactly zero credibility. He has made it his life's work to produce poorly-made works of fiction, and he has the audacity to call it investigative reporting.
Still, giving Republicans the benefit of the doubt on, well, anything feels deeply immoral.
thallamabond@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 334d
The worst person you know is still a person. I posted another story about Thomas Massie accusing a Billionaire GOP mega donor of being on Epsteins client list.
This is a big deal. GOP congressman from Kentucky, calling out HIS OWN BIG MONEY DONOR, and as far as I can tell he is standing alone on the republican side trying to get Epstein stuff public. I don't like the guy, but I can believe this endeavor is moral.
elbucho@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 334d
I don't dispute his personhood, but that doesn't imply he's believable, when his entire career has shown him not to be.
thallamabond@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 334d
You could sum up his career (heavily edited).
riskable@programming.dev · 17 pts · 334d
As a Democrat, I say don't redact any of them! If there's Democrats in there, everyone needs to know. Everyone needs to know all the people involved!
Stop being pussies and use this as a proper stepping stone to remove your rivals in the GOP! That's how villain organizations are supposed to work!
TipRing@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 334d
FIrst off, O'Keefe lol. But secondly, if the guy on the video is actually a deputy chief like O'Keefe claims then 'staffer' is kind of underselling it.
Asafum@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 334d
DOJ: He's just a coffee deputy chief, not important. Fake news!
Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 334d
So 97% of the names huh?
NateNate60@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 334d
I'm going to make a prediction if they are going to release a list of some sort with names on it:
monospace font like this one where all characters are the same width.Lexam@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 334d
I don't trust James Okeefe as far I could throw him. But I find it hilarious that their own snake is trying to bite them now! 🤣
thallamabond@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 334d
Kinda, I really don't like O'Keefe, but to me this shows some moral fortitude. Sure he's far right, but it seems protecting kid diddlers is too much.
elbucho@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 334d
You're assuming he's doing it for moral reasons rather than trying to produce a "shocking exposé" around an emotionally and politically charged set of current events for maximum engagement.
thallamabond@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 334d
Maybe your right, maybe its profit, maybe its fame. TBH I like what he is saying because it benefits my political team in this moment. BUT this guys whole shtick is protect the children, AND he is going against his people. So maybe.
lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com · 0 pts · 334d
That's assuming a blackmail list or compendium of damning documents shielded from public disclosure by an insidious "Deep State" isn't an element of grander Qanon conspiracy theories that a shadowy cabal of deep state elites runs pedophile rings to extract adrenochrome. Or that we aren't talking about this now because Trump played up conspiracy theories to win the following of useful idiots who subscribe to them.
The press had reported for years on right-wing crackpots "doing their own research" & pulling wild shit out of nowhere. It's possible for a right-wing crackpot to pull an idea out their ass that happens to be true. It's also possible that unicorns exist on some planet in the universe.
Not sure why anyone outside those crackpot communities should feel convinced, though.
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 334d
Yeah this is kind of the perfect shit storm for Republicans. Any non-republican knows that O'Keefe is full of shit and makes intentionally dishonest videos through the use of heavy editing.
But now that he's targeting them, Republicans have to admit that O'Keefe makes videos that are complete BS. Therefore acknowledging that... actually never mind. The cognitive dissonance is so strong with Republicans that this will change nothing.
They'll have no problem believing everything he's put out about abortion is true, but this video about a Republican cover up is false.
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 334d
I sure am glad I put all my money into black chisel-tip permanent marker stocks.
sturmblast@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 333d
Most corrupt group of morons I've ever seen. What a fucking clown show.
Serinus@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 334d
https://piefed.social/post/1229119
This actually deserves attention, unlike OKeefe.
thallamabond@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 334d
Hear me out, if we focus on actually keeping kids safe, we can pay attention to BOTH Epstein's protectors AND the eugenesist maniac in charge of the CDC.
Serinus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 333d
This isn't Epstein. This is effectively attention for OKeefe and the equivalent of a Reddit comment.
GreenShimada@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 334d
I did love the outright contradictions about COVID vaccines. But my cat snores like he breathes when he's awake. Dude is not well. But we knew that.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 334d
I wish Trump gets medical advice from him
TuffNutzes@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 333d
I can't wait to see the pages of redactions. It's going to be a stack of like 20 pages with three or four enemies of Trump's on it. The rest are all redacted.
Serinus@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 334d
It's OKeefe. The comment under this one is literally more reliable.
bacon_pdp@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 334d
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 334d
The Assange strategy
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 334d
Nobody expected anything less.
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 333d
MORE OF THIS!