Watching the Charlie Kirk video felt good.

I have said it before, and I will say it again.

Empathy is a huge strength, lack of it is a huge weakness.

"All words are made up." - Thor

Empathy: a made up word that apparently most people in this thread dont have.

Seriously, can no one see the irony in hating this sick fuck of a waste of air, and everything he stands for, but then using his views as justification for his death?

You are mocking him for saying empathy isnt real, which ironically shows an absolute lack of empathy and an admission that you agree with him.

Just stop and take a breath.

He was an absolute prick and i am not sad he is gone. But somebody was shot and killed and all you can do is point an laugh.

How can you stand on any moral high ground when there are any other shootings or murders that you want people to mourn.

so glad that I can evade all consequences forever by knocking up bitch

I mean, I feel bad for his kids assuming it ever dawns on them that dad was famous for being a lying sack of shit and left this world after being struck with 150 grains of irony (not sure what actual weight of projectile did him in, but old milsurp seems fitting).

Like someone else said, Kirk getting shot in the throat, in a school, possibly by a republican, while ranting about minorities, gang violence and trans people, is peak irony

I wish ill on people who do evil shit. I also wish they'd see the error of their ways and make amends. They don't tend to though. Watching Charlie get so neatly picked off like a clay pigeon in a shooting gallery as he was about to spew more horseshit was highly satisfying.

Their messaging is also weirdly contrived. They almost never do the same for deaths of innocent people, they consider them statistics rather than people. But then a bad guy meets a bad fate, and they bring out their alts accounts to tell you “yOu gUyS aRe eViL.”

Irony is lost on some people.

SHOTS FIRED. Hahahaha.

I don't want anyone watching to have trauma symptoms, sadly they're going to, but even if they support him I don't want that for them.

But watching him about to open his big mouth and say more pro gun shit and then get picked off like a clay pigeon in a shooting gallery? 10/10.

I feel a little bad for his kids, having no dad probably sucks. Well, not nearly as much as having Kirk as a dad, but still. I feel the same way for Barron Trump and Elon's kids, not much they can do to escape attention and indoctrination. Still doesn't mean that he was a good man just for having a family, regardless of what CNN and the NYT say.

I dont feel bad for them. We have over sheltered the country. We dont want people see videos of what happens. We dont show them the photos. "Its too graphic". Good. See it. Look at the reality. Maybe if more peoole did that we would have less wars, less rhetoric. Its all a big game because we dont confront peoole with the dark reality.

Oh can we have this for christmas? Please please please please please please

Can we get some witches to put a curse on him too?

First positive influence: his psychotic ass is gone. Second: Republicans finally have a hint of fear, knowing there are actual consequences.

They bet on there being no credible resistance.

I can think of one.

Whatever happens next was going to happen eventually anyway. Don't let anyone shift the blame.

The tree of liberty finally got some much needed moisture.

The memes are funny though

Look harder.

They were always going to. Fuck em.

they should bomb blue MAGA cities if they exist

It doesn’t change them, but it is kinda fun to put together compilations of right wingers celebrating when decent people are murdered.

You can see it written on their RV's.

he thought empathy was fake, don't give him any lmaooo

Years of bad faith argument by professional high school bullies does that. Years of spreading hate and intolerance to their "others", but shock and horror whenever someone didn't tolerate them. Years of snide comments or glee whenever there was an attack on someone they didn't like.

I really didn't care when Paul Pelosi was attacked because people like him don't care or even notice when someone me gets attacked. Why should I care at that Kirk was attacked?

People are saying that this attack with spark more violence, but it didn't really matter that Franz Ferdinand was shot. WWI was going to happen some way or another. Whatever happens next was going to happen one way or another.

Feel empathy for the fact that people like Charlie, other white supremacists, have something so fundamental missing in their souls they treat other people so poorly. Feel empathy for the fact he was a piss poor human and didn't understand love, respect, community, humanity, etc.

I like treating it like a game. Think of rabid far right radicals as people under the influence of a cognitohazard. You can't really help them, and if you listen to them for too long, you'll pick up the cognitive hazard as well. Like a cold. Only thing to do is quarantine and isolate the infected until they can be humanely put to rest. It's IRL SCPs

Its not about empathy. Its one thing to be indifferent. I am indifferent. I didnt like him, I thought his way of debating was disingenuous. Not giving a shit that he died, is where everyone should be who didnt like him. This glee, this joy, this is not normal. This is sign that a lot of people have been radicalised by their echo chambers.

And worse, now they are calling for others to be murdered. People like JK Rowling. Theres fucking crimes being committed everywhere, all under the guise of "they are nazis!". The exact same shit Putin said to justify his attack on Ukraine. Theres just something so wrong in peoples heads now. Social media has fucked a lot of people brains.

Based on his body posture right after it looks like he got reset to factory default settings. I think his brain stem got damanged. It was probably lights out immediately

I feel like whoever the shooter was they were imported from another country where they are trained for shooting like this, real marksmanship, and went back right after they are done, somewhere without an extradition treaty maybe.

He was doing a scientific experiment to see if his head was swollen with blood or gas

I think someone down voted you because they didn't read the second paragraph. Got you back to positive. 👍🏼

I hear reports that estimate the shot at 200 yards. Most rifle scopes come zeroed out at 100 yards out of the box. Maybe the scoped the head but the bullet landed low because the scope was set too close. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Skulls are thick. A bullet hitting at an angle could potentially ricochet off.

Ain't nothing ricocheting off a neck.

Shooter knew exactly what he was doing.

These are people who hung effigies of Obama being lynched outside their homes.

What's to feel bad about? He said himself victims of gun violence were acceptable.

As not one of those people. I would never expect anyone to show him respect, but to want to watch anyone die for pleasure is insane. Frankly.

Feel your feelings. Do what's right for you. Nobody else makes that decision for you.

I've spent the last eight years infiltrating white supremacists on social media. I have seen people like Charlie and what their conversation is like when they're among their own and the masks are off. That's why I don't feel bad for him, I have seen their true faces.

Because of justice (or perceived justice). Just like if you see an old man knocked out by a angry 30 year old, you'd feel badly for the man, except if that 30 year old just caught the old guy molesting your kid, then your sympathy ends.

That's what empathy is, it's automatic, reason doesn't factor in. There is nothing wrong with you.

Reasoning how to feel afterwards is something different.

You described it pretty perfectly as I experience it. Charlie Kirk was an awful piece of shit, and also violence is bad. I watched the video but shouldn't have. I truly cannot understand how people are so gleeful. I certainly get being glad that he's dead. He didn't deserve life. But as you said, empathy isn't voluntary. People are either devoid of it or overriding it. America fucking sucks and probably will never get better.

So, I don't think it's entirely voluntary either way, it's just a matter of where your perspective defaults to. I consider myself a fairly empathetic person and I happen to sit on the opposite side of this. As much as I try, I cannot feel empathy for him.

When I try, the empathy I feel is for everyone he advocated to subjugate and kill. I cannot fathom being in the shoes of someone so pointlessly, shamelessly hateful. When I put myself in his shoes, there is no connection that makes it in any way feel like a real person's understandable perspective. If he had changed at some point? That would be understandable. Imagining that makes me feel empathy for the person he could have been, but that person doesn't exist, never existed and may never have. I feel more empathy for that hypothetical person than I do the actual Charlie Kirk, someone who himself felt that feeling empathy was a sickness and wanted to eradicate me from society.

I struggle to find anything to empathize with there.

With that said, I watched the video. It made me feel sick to my stomach. But that didn't change the immense relief I felt knowing there was one less person in the world that thought I should be stoned in the street. I don't think you're wrong for feeling unsettled by someone taking glee in it though. It's hard to imagine the kind of pain someone has to go through to get to the point where someone's death is something to celebrate as a relief.

The justifications are just ways of shutting down empathy. You can stop feeling those things automatically if you work at closing them off. It's a great first step at becoming a psychopath, if you want.

I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some famous fascist gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe.

::: spoiler Tap for spoiler https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/charlie-kirk-gun-deaths-quote/ :::

It's karmic he was gunned down.

I think its pretty hilarious that he died in a literal school shooting. Something he advocated for.

Wouldn't this be a great album cover for Pussy Riot?

It does look like he’s dancing

If it were the 80s, maybe Killing Joke would use as a follow up to their other great album picture:

His Wikipedia should mention how he failed at the game of life. I've already significantly outlived him in years. And I'm not a pathetic worm propagandist. I beat Charlie Kuck at the game of life. We all did.

He was such a hollow husk of a man that I'm surprised there was anything inside to leak out.

It's true! But I think that's what dark money does, it installs political figures who don't really have a human side.

Like watching Hitler get shot would be, IMO.

Can Hannity be next?

A stranger I met on the bus today said that his cousin works with a guy who is penpals with someone who's sister wanted to watch it for research purposes... Got a link?

That’s exactly how I feel. One less bigot on earth

Hm i felt very happy for a day. Great success!

What consequences? They're already doing it. He WAS the consequences.

The last thing I ever worry about is their fucking feelings

I can pm a link to a clip of the actual moment ... don't want to post it here because of the site rules.

But be forewarned, it's (obviously) nsfl due to the blood.

I found some on Facebook by searching "Charlie Kirk shooting" and searched videos. I can't seem to give you a link because they're Instagram reels and I don't have an account and there's no share button, but if you use Facebook try searching?

The president is a pedophile. No one in America is mentally healthy any longer.

No, celebrating it makes you not much better morally and emotionally. A sense of justice though? I can see that.

Here's why I feel the way I do. Because he said shit like this.

Here's the full article with all the things he has said.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefs

I'm with you, soldiers came back from war with PTSD just from seeing a dude get smoked, I don't need to watch that shit, much less take glee in watching it.

I accept that with him gone, the movement I disagree with has been kneecapped, but damn, watching what people say is one of the most gruesome shootings...

And all us millennials who said "man I watched such dark shit on early internet", and then to still watch Charlie get one tapped... Don't need that image rumblin round in the noggin.

If you think that's bad... Lol

I think those bots are also on Charlie's side, like pushing an antileft agenda, because they want us to have a civil war to damage our country.

Not to defend these cunty fascists, but how exactly do you suppose anyone — barring Superman — "fights" a surprise bullet to the neck?

By the time he heard the shot he was already dead.

https://mastodon.social/@Ulfh3dnar/115181548207581457 (NSFL)

Enjoy, I'm pretty sure if you listen closely before people start freaking you can hear him wheezing into the mic.

Its disturbing. Its engraved into my mind. If you want to watch that on repeat you have either never seen somebody get brutally killed or you are so desensitised that you are borderline psychotic.

I am not sad he is dead. Man was a deplorable waste of oxygen.

But wanting to watch him flood blood from his neck on repeat is not sane behaviour.

Your username definitely fucking checks out.

What a dumb, dumb, dumb thing to say.

https://lemmy.world/comment/19344993

what would be even better is finding a video with more context, maybe the whole event.

Counterpoint: paradox of tolerance

Empathy isn't something that lasts in the face of persistent hate and intolerance. Its naturally selective in that respect. You can put it any way you like but this man received karma and if you didn't feel satisfaction at how he ended then you must either be ignorant of his hate and intolerance or you must approve of it.

Not feeling bad about the situation is nowhere near as bad as actively trying to make the lives of minorities worse. Shame on you for even implying they are equitable.

Self defense isn't hate.

It IS crazy but please take John Brown's final words to heart:

"I, John Brown, am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away but with blood. I had, as I now think, vainly flattered myself that without very much bloodshed it might be done."

We are repeating history and that man was an enemy of any rational or empathetic souls left in this country. I took the warnings of others seriously before watching the footage, as it is indeed awful. But that man would have been happy to watch me die. Knowing that, I can't pretend it doesn't feel good to see a threat neutralized.

First of all, sir, this is a Wendy's.

Second, maybe watching their country slip in to totalitarian fascism bring out in the worst in some people? Like the ones with a shred of morality and awareness.

Third, I think most of the people aware of what Charlie Kirk was actually like, probably have pretty good reasons to wish him ill.

Charlie Kirk talked about the great replacement theory quite often. That's quite literally white supremacy talking points. What else is there to feel for someone who is a Nazi?