DOJ Deletes Study Showing Domestic Terrorists Are Most Often Right Wing

Sort of.

I mean - yes - corporations do it, but for them it's a simple business strategy. It's not a matter of whether they want to believe it or not - it's just that that information getting out would hurt their profits and nothing matters more than their profits.

But for right-wingers, it's some sort of weird cognitively dissonant delusional dogma thing - like if they can successfully hide the evidence to the contrary, that'll somehow make their beliefs actually true. They'll be able to face the new day, confident that their beliefs are true, because after all, nobody can prove otherwise, right?

... so the right...

It's more like 1/3 because 1/3 of Americans don't vote. Also, that 1/3 that votes Republican is the most politically uninformed 1/3. And many of them don't actually know what the people they vote for believe, they just vote R because they always have.

Perhaps they only ever interact with other republicans cause surely if they hated the democrats that much then there would be shootings in Walmart everyday.

I'm told there were about 500 mass shootings (4 or more people) last year. So we're pretty close.

And I don't think it's 52%. A lot of people don't vote or update their voter records. But there does seem to be a frothy core that's getting high on hating people.

I think conservatives are more insular, too. If you live in a city and actually see and interact with other kinds of people, its harder to hate them as monsters.

77,302,580 Americans voted for Trump out of a total of 340,865,045 individuals. That makes the total number of Americans who wanted some part of what's going on strongly enough to take some action is roughly 23%. 75 million Americans voted for Harris and 37 million Americans were registered, but did not vote which is roughly 33%.

Only 55% of the country is registered to vote so it's really hard to tell what the 45% of Americans who aren't registered feel politically, but it's probably safe to assume if they can't be bothered to vote, they're probably not down for the civil war remix.

Of the 23% who voted conservative in 2024, not all of them hold far right beliefs. It's hard to say what fraction of that population would fall on the far right, especially because Trumpism itself holds some far right ideology. Even assuming half of all republican voters are ready and willing to engage in a civil war, that's only 35 million people or 11% of the population.

They're really loud online and currently have control of the government, but there really aren't that many of them. There are far more people who don't care, centrists, democrats, and leftists.

there is no reason to give the majority of those people the benefit of the doubt. Humans can have large groups with oppressive opinions. A large segment of Germans supported the nazi's, a large section of Israel thinks gaza isn't being destroyed harshly enough and a large sections of americans currently believe in massive oppression.

If more fascists in this country thought the way Goebbels did, we'd have less fascists in this country.

He couldn't stand to spend a day in the afterlife without his children with him. Doesn't his love just bring a tear to your eye?

I was gonna say, this was something they already tried in his first term during covid.

The lack of serious backlash, outrage, or even general coverage of the insanity and facism that's coming out of the current administration by the media is pretty concerning.

It feels like everyone is just running with it, and I have a hard time beleiving that many people are OK with all of this.

Yeah:

"The only perpetrator arguably from the Left is Black nationalist Quintez Brown."

So they did acknowledge it, but kind of gave it a pass because he wasn't "affiliated with the Democratic Party or any other mainstream reformist, progressive or leftist organisation".

I think it's still a bit up in the air about whether Tyler Robinson had a consistent ideology. He is 22, an age where political leanings can be all over the place and evolve pretty rapidly. Whatever the case, it seems he operated alone. So we can consider how much online rhetoric influenced him one way or another, but it doesn't seem like there was any organizational pressure or even a forum that had a chance to talk him into or out of his plan.

The article does make a broader point well supported by data, broadly speaking the right has gotten more violent and we don't see a similar pattern on the left. No matter which way Tyler lands or just attributed to less ostensibly political ideology, I think the trend is still valid. It's somewhat less dangerous if they can definitively establish him as a Fuentes like, but I fear he might be credibly "grown out of it".

No doubt left-wing terrorism has happened. Just much less frequent and deadly.

I would straight up start busting windows out of any vehicle with trump stickers. But I have a family who needs fed and housed, so I don't.

Yet.

"don't hate" seems like an extremely radical message. I hate lots of things, and I think it is right to hate those things.

I hate it when Nazis gain power. I hate it when children are molested. I hate injustice. Don't you?

You’re clearly a menace to society! I ought to turn you into the thought police for my brownie points. I might even get enough for a gold star this year!

militant leftist

The word "militant" is interesting, particularly its use as a vague slur. It suggests extremism or even violence without requiring evidence of such (for example 15-20 years ago the term "militant atheist" got flung around a lot, referring to people who didn't believe in God and were outspoken and unashamed of it).

It caught my attention when encountering the Italian counterpart "militante" which means anyone who gets off their ass for something they believe in. Carrying a sign in a protest is definitely "militante". And as such it's not a slur, or suggestive of anything scary. I guess the meaning in English isn't so materially different except for the bourgeois fear of activism which it conjures up.

Every German who went to school after 1945, for one.

More like 1980.

In the immediate aftermath of World War II, there was a widespread reluctance among Germans to acknowledge the atrocities committed by the Nazi regime. However, this began to change in the 1960s and 1970s, as a new generation of Germans began to grapple with the legacy of their country’s past. The first efforts to teach about the Holocaust in German schools began in the 1980s, and since then, the curriculum has continued to evolve to better reflect the complexities of this history.

https://knowgermany.com/do-they-teach-about-the-holocaust-in-germany/

Communists need to have more children than the fascists.

Got it, so clone army it is.

I dunno. Hate groups have become much more bolder and appearing in public spaces. Have their own podcasts and their own media networks (Rebel News and Ezra Levant, etc.) They're also forming militias, training for combat and firearm use, and even infiltrating the military forces to recruit new members. Source Source 2 Bands with allegiances to these groups have also produced music with hate speech and racist lyrics, talking about bringing back gas chambers, etc. This is no joke.

Don't confuse not being an ammo sexual with not fighting.

Just cause I don't need to jerk off a gun to buy a sandwich doesn't mean I don't own, or know how to shoot a gun.

Historic photo of first clinical trial of Right Guard deordorant.

The US Bravely fought off the British terrorists so they could become American terrorists.

Per Merriam-Webster's website:

Did you know?
Jingoism Got Its Start in the 19th Century

Jingoism originated during the Russo-Turkish War of 1877-1878, when many British citizens were hostile toward Russia and felt Britain should intervene in the conflict. Supporters of the cause expressed their sentiments in a music-hall ditty with this refrain:

We don't want to fight, yet by jingo if we do,
We've got the ships, we've got the men,
We've got the money, too!

Someone holding the attitude implied in the song became known as a jingo or jingoist, and the attitude itself was dubbed jingoism. The jingo in the tune is probably a euphemism for Jesus.

A friend of mine, always with a non optimal immune system, had planned a wedding anniversary vacation to Mexico in 2009 but refused to get a shot against the Mexican Flu...

Within a week of his vacation he got infected with the Mexican Flu, which by then was a pandemic... (the western world almost forgot about this one) He quickly was transported to an ER in his home city, tubes sticking out of him everywhere, no one allowed to visit him beyond the airlock... Eventually he recovered but it took at least a year to feel sort of healthy. Claimed he regretted not getting the H1N1 (Mexican Flu) vaccine.

He got a flu-shot a year after, but after the 2nd year he refused "if I get one I get a stuffed nose for a full month".
When I reminded him of not learning a lesson from the Mexican Flu, he claimed it wasn't that bad...
Almost had no proper recollection of being in emergency care with tubing all over his body...

Year 5 after his H1N1 adventure he had been without flu shots for a while, got another flu, was badly ill for 6 weeks, lost his job because of it... Tried to convince himself it was a younger worker who stole his job...

We broke contact after a while where it was clear he was willfully spiraling downward into a black hole of denial and blaming others.

So, yeah, folks like that do not learn a lesson, not even if they end up very ill and it having lasting effects on their life, there is a pressing need to find another person to lay blame on.

If you go far enough to the right, I'm told that you come out the other side as a Leftist.

And since the Groyper was to Charlie Kirk's right? And Charlie Kirk was the most far-right figure that was politically palpable to national media? And also, this guy was some middle-class shitkicker from Utah with poisoned internet brain who we can hallucinate any kind of ideology we want onto?

Defacto Leftist. QED. Also, transgender. Muslim. Communist. Atheist. An illegal immigrant. Some combination of Russian and Chinese. Whatever the scary thing of the current news cycle happens to be.

horseshoe theory is nonsense invented by centrists.

It's not nonsense, it's an observation that as people become more politically extreme, they become defined more by their extremism than their ideology.

"Centrist" is a logical fallacy anyway. Nobody declares themselves a "centrist", there are right and wrong answers to political questions and it isn't going to be "in between".

horseshoe theory is nonsense invented by centrists

That's just what a person simultaneously on the Far-Left and Far-Right would want you to believe!

The left hated him for being a terrible human being. Groypers hated him for not being a terrible enough human being.

A bit more seriously, it wasn't "Groypers" who hated him quite so much as a particular set of far-right slacktivists who were jealous of his success and wanted in on his grift. If there is a single person who might have been held directly responsible for the Kirk shooting (other than the shooter himself), it was Nick Fuentes - who just so happened to be front row center filming when Kirk got-got.

I've seen conservatives compare Kirk to MLK, but I think the more accurate comparison would be Tupac.