Google Calls ICE Agents a Vulnerable Group, Removes ICE-Spotting App ‘Red Dot’

https://www.404media.co/google-calls-ice-agents-a-vulnerable-group-removes-ice-spotting-app-red-dot/

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ninjabard@lemmy.world · 225 pts · 319d (2 replies)

Vulnerable to Fascism?

primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus · 35 pts · 319d

Well, I'm sure they wouldn't give encryption keys away.

Reverendender@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 319d

Vulnerable Susceptible

Susaga@sh.itjust.works · 188 pts · 319d (1 reply)

I think they're less "vulnerable" and more "fragile"

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 28 pts · 319d

"Afraid of any sort of accountability"

railway692@piefed.zip · 171 pts · 319d (4 replies)

Oh? Are we giving them privacy?

Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 117 pts · 319d (3 replies)

if they have nothing to hide, they have nothing to fear

LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 319d (2 replies)

Yeah, maybe it would be in our interests to make all government communications public access. If it isn't a matter happening outside our borders, have it open. Maybe a classification for certain discussions that requires they be released in a timely manner, and when reviewed by a 3rd party if any information is attempted to be hidden they are immediately removed from their position and an investigation starts as to whether the offense should be criminal.

The timely manner would have to be monitored as in "we are going to performing a drug raid" they get a warrant that allocates them 2 days to have discussions pertaining to that topic, organize and execute it. Then release all communications immediately following. If they don't believe they can perform it in that time they need to submit it in their warrant request as to the reason why, time period, and date the information will be made public.

If we wrote strict laws on it, the judges would be held accountable for giving out warrants brazenly, and the executive branch would be kept in check by such

Reverendender@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 319d (1 reply)

Maybe we should consider some sort of informational freedom act.

EmilieEasie@lemmynsfw.com · 4 pts · 318d

That's a great idea. They can always choose to totally ignore it if it ever becomes inconvenient like the Epstein files.

TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 129 pts · 319d (33 replies)

Federated solutions which can't be stopped, self hosted, and available via Fdroid.

Only real answer.

wagesj45@fedia.io · 94 pts · 319d (31 replies)

Until Google revokes publishing privileges for side-loading applications. I think we'll have to go further and get used to making PWAs and regular websites.

grue@lemmy.world · 87 pts · 319d (19 replies)

side-loading

You mean "installing normally." "Sideloading" is fucking anti-property-rights loaded language.

Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works · 35 pts · 319d

Good point. Wild how these ghouls have normalized their bullshit language.

quick_snail@feddit.nl · 4 pts · 319d (17 replies)

Do you have a better, simple word for what they're banning?

Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 25 pts · 319d (12 replies)

installing?

downloading and installing programs.

quick_snail@feddit.nl · -5 pts · 319d (11 replies)

But they're not banning downloading and installing programs. What are they blocking, specifically?

OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml · 19 pts · 319d (2 replies)

They're banning programs from being installed unless the installation has their consent

ErmahgherdDavid@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 319d

They're banning non google-drmed app installs

Jakule17@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 319d

Isn’t there somebody you forgot to ask?

lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com · 0 pts · 318d (7 replies)

regular installs of apps by unverified or suspended developers

they can still be installed by

whenever I point this out to the drama queens here, they get hissy

quick_snail@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 318d

Yes. Just looking for a simple 1-3 word term that encapsulates this

Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 6 pts · 319d

Loading non-playstore apps?

kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 319d (1 reply)

What do you call installing an application on a computer?

quick_snail@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 319d

I say "I apt-get it"

grue@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 319d

"Ownership."

can@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 319d (3 replies)

I can't believe Steve Jobs was right all along.

skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de · 18 pts · 319d
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commander@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 319d

Steve Jobs just didn't have the right foresight. PWA's were a solution when the web was supposed to be the future of applications distribution. If he knew native apps were still the future and in app advertising and microtransactions were going to be where all was at, he would never have pushed PWA's. Steve was a salesman first and foremost

Reverendender@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 319d

He believed if he made quality products, that the stock price increases all the soulless capitalists demanded would follow. Which of course they did. Then Tim Apple took over, and quality went out the window in favor of stock buybacks. Kind of like Boeing.

freeman@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 319d

Allow vendors to completely control what apps run on your phone and banning websites and PWAs becomes trivial for them. Browsers are apps.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 319d (1 reply)

Google started using buzzwords of sideloading as to make a boogeyman security issue, to get people to side with them. its just installing, other than thier main store.

lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com · -1 pts · 318d

sideloading existed long before mobile OSs

quick_snail@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 319d (3 replies)

They can only do that to phones running gapps

ErmahgherdDavid@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 319d

The issue with this is that like 95% of android devices run android with gapps and re-imaging your phone is becoming increasingly more difficult as manufacturers lock down their bootloaders. Normies who aren't technical are not gonna want to mess with that shit. I'm not saying this to instill hopelessness but highlighting that it's a challenge.

For censorship circumvention, mainstream tech is gonna continue to be increasingly useless. We need to educate people about these matters and also try to encourage people to lean heavily into decentralised comms like lora/meshtastic

DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 319d (1 reply)

All phones run gapps by default, other than those in Mainland China, that is.

Anivia@feddit.org · 2 pts · 319d

Not just China, also common in south America. Huawei still has a large market share there and their phones don't have gapps since Trump banned American companies from doing business with Huawei

chaosCruiser@futurology.today · 5 pts · 319d

How about web apps or even regular sites with a mobile friendly UI?

twice_hatch@midwest.social · 108 pts · 319d (4 replies)

Oh no, vulnerable 🥺 they need DEI? They need to be a protected class? 🥺

Surveillance is suddenly wrong when it's the peasants surveiling wannabe samurai? 🥺

Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 319d (1 reply)

Can I just be "that guy" and point out the CEO of Google is "Sundar Puchai"?

Who do you think Trump is coming for, you fucking idiot? It's not guys like me named "David".

I hate this. I hate that they are targeting "minorities", or Hispanics, or Indian folks... But many people in charge who are part of these groups don't even care. They think they are special. You're money doesn't make you immune, you complete goddamn waste of oxygen.

We're trying to fucking help you. Stop condemning fellow human beings for the sake of profits. You are damning your children, and your family. You are selling them for gains. We hate you, and so do your children.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 15 pts · 319d

Rich Brahman caste Indians, or similar believe they are the ones most similar to rich white people. At least if you looked into Indian caste system, they are notoriously conservative and probably racist too. Usha, is also part of it

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 319d

Evil thrives in darkness

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 319d

They need to be protected alright, with thick concrete walls, iron bars, locks, and guards. Nobody in or out for a few decades oughta keep them nice and safe

Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 78 pts · 319d (2 replies)

The irony is so rich.

To anyone that had doubts about governments putting restrictions on app stores, here is your proof. The level of power the current situation grants this duopoly is excessive and dangerous.

possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 48 pts · 319d (1 reply)

I thought we had all the proof we needed when Tim Cook and Sundar Pichai were snuggling up to Trump at dinners and the inauguration

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 17 pts · 319d

google had been snuggling up to conservatives for a while, mostly around mid-pandemic, when they removed restrictions on not banning election denial, and then snowballed into right wing propaganda videos plaguing youtube ever since. they are part of the problem, even moreso than APPLE. and google recently made deals WITH ISRAEL to allow thier propaganda to fester the site.

Treczoks@lemmy.world · 75 pts · 319d

Calling masked, armed, armored thugs and terrorists with a disregard for the law a "vulnerable group" is a bit thick, isn't it?

umbrella@lemmy.ml · 71 pts · 319d (9 replies)
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ofespii@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 319d (5 replies)

I mean... You only need the APK 👀

RabbitMix@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 17 pts · 319d (1 reply)

for now

explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 318d

I already switched from Chrome to FF, I guess my phone needs a better OS next.

winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 319d

I miss the days of just needing a url

Cyberflunk@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 318d
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end_stage_ligma@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 319d

and an RPK

sleen@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 318d (1 reply)
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umbrella@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 318d
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lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com · 4 pts · 318d

you can

it's also why apps that can be websites should

uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 62 pts · 318d (2 replies)

The agents who implement state violence are not a group. They're agents of the state.

And now Google is directly collaborating with an oppressive autocratic regime.

jokersteve@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 318d (1 reply)
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 318d

Curiously, while in character, it's about the stupidest thing companies can do, at least according to Mike Brock

But yes, corporations are notoriously short-sighted when it comes to autocrats, even with a long history of ultimately getting their assets seized by the autocratic regimes they assisted into power.

I'd like to think this all might be a time to teach common end-users the joys of FOSS and, if necessary, jailbreaking, but that's still a big ask for the general public even in the face of abduction and rendition.

ceenote@lemmy.world · 61 pts · 319d (1 reply)

Was ever any doubt who corporate America would side with?

WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 319d

Capitalists will align with the devil if it means greater profits. Turns out an economic system catering to the selfishness and greed of the individual is not compatible with democracy.

sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.io · 51 pts · 319d (6 replies)

Someone recommended Kagi in another thread yesterday and that night I finally became 100% google free. Search was the last big hurdle. I was literally the biggest google fanboy. I had google home devices, google wifi, I wanted all their devices, had all their services, everything was set up and integrated. De-googling was fucking hard but I did it and I'm super proud and I've learned so much about how tech works setting up my replacement services and devices. Fuck you Google.

HereIAm@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 319d (3 replies)

How was search and not the usual maps the hardest? The search is what I feel like most people switch first.

sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.io · 8 pts · 319d (2 replies)

Idk I started using organicmaps (comaps now) long long ago. I guess I don't have a great fundamental understanding of search. Are not most other search engines just hopping on the back of google search engines? I honestly don't know. Its not an area I've spent a lot of time learning about - or maybe I'm just a backwards dude haha.

HereIAm@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 319d (1 reply)

No, that's fair play! I think you were just ahead of the curve with ditching google maps :D I use a combo of OSMAnd, Comaps, and Magic Earth (not open source, but has live traffic data).

sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.io · 2 pts · 318d

Nisce I haven't heard of OSMAnd or Magic Earth I'll have to poke around!

petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 318d (1 reply)

I had google home devices, google wife, I wanted all their devices

😳

sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.io · 7 pts · 318d

Lmao wife, WiFi, waifu? Where does one begin and one end I don't even know.

Typhoon@lemmy.ca · 48 pts · 318d (3 replies)

Google says a group of masked fascists kidnapping children from their beds is a "vulnerable group".

MithranArkanere@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 318d

To be fair, they did set expectations when they got rid of the "don't be evil" moto.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 14 pts · 318d

google recently fellated trump and the gop. Google's youtube is pretty instrumental in drawing in more incel men to voting Rs, by platforming right wingers out of context , like kirk,shapiro, fox, ,,,ETC.

phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 318d

Brown shirts were a vulnerable group too!

noxypaws@pawb.social · 44 pts · 318d (9 replies)

For the rest of my life I will never forget that Apple and Google went out of their way to defend and protect the Nazi SS of our time.

Absolutely fucking evil and unforgivable.

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noxypaws@pawb.social · 6 pts · 318d (5 replies)

We are far, far beyond the point of a boycott having any chance whatsoever of taking down the richest corpos in the history of the world.

EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com · 8 pts · 318d

Power is too entrenched at this point. I think the only real thing people can do at this point is flip the fucking table and stop putting more meat into the meatgrinder.

This is why you hear so much whining and crying about falling fertility rates, so much propaganda and push to increase population. It's the one actual challenge to their power. You can't control people who don't exist.

Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 318d (3 replies)

Because none of you willing to suffer for your conviction. You'll moan online, but when asked to go without carplay or android auto, all of sudden fascism isnt that bad. You can make all the excuses you want, but the reality is that you are all spoiled. And wont even go back to dumb phones for a few months to a year to make your point.

noxypaws@pawb.social · 2 pts · 317d (2 replies)

motherfucker you don't know a damn thing about me

Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 317d (1 reply)

I might not know you, but I do know that about you, cunty chops.

noxypaws@pawb.social · 1 pts · 316d

I keep an SSD full of FLAC files in my car and use it through the native media player and I use my car's built-in nav.

Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 318d

Absolutely agreed. This is the last straw for me, I'm degoogling

stinky@redlemmy.com · 2 pts · 318d

Agreed. I'm pulling out of Chrome and google search. Their software is shipped with everything now and I wish I could do more. They've been sliding into evil for a long time now.

Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 44 pts · 319d (2 replies)
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 319d (1 reply)

Do rich cowards that give other rich assholes fealty often do what their rulers tell them?! 1111?

Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 319d

What a fucking piece of shit.

eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 42 pts · 318d (6 replies)

If you ever want to know why capitalism turns into fascism, look into how many companies willingly and knowingly did business with Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy.

IBM made computers to help the Holocaust, because the Nazis could pay for the service of the machines to be built.

Google is just a modern IBM.

militaryintelligence@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 318d

Fascism is a business choice, always has been. Hitler didn't get popular by himself

SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 318d (3 replies)

The Model M in my attic: heavy breathing

eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 318d (2 replies)

Hey I'm also guilty, I have had a few thinkpads. All second hand, but I did love my T420.

SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 318d (1 reply)

I just bought a (Lenovo) Thinkpad T580. Good laptop. I do plan on buying buy an IBM-era Thinkpad in the future. Hopefully, it doesn't come with a copy of Mein Kampf or Völkischer Beobachter.

eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 318d

With this "new" America, who knows?

brax@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 318d

Why do that when we can just watch it in real time right now?

herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml · 36 pts · 318d (2 replies)

This is exactly why sideloading is very very important.

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 318d (1 reply)

And why it's being removed

herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 317d

yep

heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net · 34 pts · 319d
collar@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 318d

Ah yes... the guys with masks, guns, the backing of the president, and virtually unlimited federal government resources are a "vulnerable group"

crandlecan@mander.xyz · 29 pts · 319d (1 reply)

Heil Agent Orange 🍊🧡

explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 318d

That's for real men, not Agent Bone Spurs

FosterMolasses@leminal.space · 27 pts · 317d

Fascists.

cybervseas@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 319d

Don’t be evil.

KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 26 pts · 319d

Do not let Google escape this, ever. Cancel all payments to them. YouTube Premium, YouTube subscriptions, etc.

lectricleopard@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 319d (1 reply)

"Why dont you stupid Americans organize or something?"

They won't let us. We're trying.

explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 318d

avidamoeba@lemmy.ca · 25 pts · 319d

So this could get much more serious if they start clamping down on the comm tools we take for granted. Between this and the incoming sideloading block - all of a sudden the most paranoid fears of Stallman's don't seem nearly as far fetched.

SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 319d (1 reply)

They're totally vulnerable! Just aim for the head!

crandlecan@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 318d

That worked!! 👍

cley_faye@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 318d

Isn't ICE one of the biggest budget of the US now? How is that vulnerable?

betanumerus@lemmy.ca · 22 pts · 318d (10 replies)
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NotBillMurray@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 318d (3 replies)

We're at that point where we have started to realize that laws are just words on paper unless someone enforces them.

betanumerus@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 318d (2 replies)
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Hupf@feddit.org · 2 pts · 318d (1 reply)

We also skipped the paper step long ago as far as big money is concerned.

betanumerus@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 317d
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explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 318d (3 replies)

They cheer and provide support. ACAB = All Cops Are Bastards

Johnmannesca@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 318d (2 replies)

1312 is another good way of subvert messaging because it can be mistook as the international and area codes for Chicago, IL

pyre@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 318d (1 reply)

never liked 1312. I don't mind it, but don't prefer it. reminds me of fascist dog whistles like 1488. there's no need to speak in code. we're right. all cops are bastards.

Johnmannesca@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 318d

You must've been raised in a cop-free household then, and I'm grateful you could have that experience. Being beaten by a cop is nothing short of terrifying, especially in your own home.

pyre@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 318d

we know it's not legal, but who's going to do anything about it?

Limonene@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 318d

Going into an apartment complex, arresting everyone there including children, including US citizens, without a warrant? That's illegal. But there's nothing you can do about it except sue them afterwards.

don@lemmy.ca · 20 pts · 319d

“Vulnerable” go fuck yourself with a white-hot steel dildo.

Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 20 pts · 317d

Imagine having to warp reality THIS much, just to make it fit your twisted narrative?

gigachad@piefed.social · 19 pts · 319d (1 reply)

The 1 million dollar question: Would I be able to side load it with the new Google developer registration rules?

krooklochurm@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 319d

lol

kn0wmad1c@programming.dev · 19 pts · 319d (2 replies)

Nope. Our tax dollars pay for their existence. They're not a vulnerable group, they're our employees.

potatopotato@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 319d

The current trend is workplace surveillance, if they're our employees aren't we supposed to be be tracking their every move and timing their bathroom breaks to the picosecond?

radix@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 319d

"Hey. Don’t I pay your salary? ... You’re a public servant; get me a glass of water."

RIP George.

Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 318d

Vulnerable my aunts fanny. They aggressively terrorize everywhere they go. Go everywhere armed to the teeth and are not in any way shape or form threatened with anything or anyone that could harm them sufficiently to put them into a threatened category. This is just google telling us whose side they are on

notannpc@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 319d

Any web based alternatives? App stores aren’t needed here and it’s a lot harder to stop a website.

Aljernon@lemmy.today · 14 pts · 318d

Goddamn Gestapo

brax@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 318d

So does this mean Google will also block services that are being used to harm other vulnerable groups, like all the ones being targeted by Snowfla- I mean ICE?

humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 318d

"Don't be evil unless fascism is better option"

shalafi@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 319d (1 reply)

Any man with a mask is a threat to me and my immigrant wife. I do not give a fuck if the patch says "POLICE". Here, get one on Amazon, anyone can.

I am armed everywhere I travel past my front yard. I am armed on my shitter. Insane, I know, but that's where America is at. I am on a fucking hair trigger. Course ICE isn't around here, we rednecks are well armed. Funny how that works out.

krooklochurm@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 319d

Another reason is that your fellow rednecks, by and large, are all for this shit.

DegenerationIP@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 319d
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FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 319d

Poor little guys

MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 319d

Google Calls Gestapo Agents a Vulnerable Group, Removes Gestapo-Spotting App ‘Red Dot’

Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 318d

Google can F-themselves.

Sunshine@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 319d

Use !linuxphones@lemmy.ca to boycott fascist enablers.

scttgard@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 318d (5 replies)

The moment any real alternative to Apple and the iPhone is viable I will go all in. Fuck them both, please Linux phones come to save us, lol.

boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 318d (4 replies)

If Linux phones become viable, I'm willing to pay half the salary of the engineer who develops the Linux equivalent of Android Auto and Apple Carplay. As long as they live and work in a really cheap country lol

Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 318d (3 replies)

So as long as its convenient, you'll stand up to fascism? lol.

boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 317d (1 reply)

There needs to be an alternative that WORKS first and foremost. Most Oneplus 6s are getting worn down, what am I going to run Linux on? Because Linux on most phones doesn't give you a functional phone at all.

How do you expect me to switch to an OS that on some devices might not let me make phone calls?

Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 317d

There is, its called a nokia. You can pick up any old 00s phone and youre good to go. Reachable and able to make phone calls. Or, and this will be fun, you can go with out. Society managed just fine for a very long time without being always reachable. Time to put the glass and metal brick down. Well, if standing up to fascism is important to you that is... But we both know the answer, dont we?

FosterMolasses@leminal.space · 0 pts · 317d

Exactly. There will never be a convenient alternative for people like this, so they'll just continue using Google and Apple while angrily scrolling through their news feeds.

Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 318d (19 replies)

Bet everyone keeps on using their google phones though...

Moaning online aint gonna do shit. Not buying their new phones, not using their old phones, will send the message you want to send. Get an old nokia, or a dumb phone, or two cans and piece of string, or no phone. If you think this is action by google is them cosying up to fascists, then you have a duty to harm that company by not giving them money.

They rely on convenience to trap you. Turn your phones off, dont buy the new ones, get dumb replacements if you need to. Fuck apple and fuck google for cosying up to this admins Gestapo bullshit.

LowtierComputer@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 317d (17 replies)

Their phones don't make them that much money. Don't use the search service.

Smoogs@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 317d (16 replies)

It’s just hard to drop the maps especially when car software will only pair with google maps. That’s about the only thing that does not have an easy alternative.

viking@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 317d (6 replies)

I'm using organic maps, and a simple phone holder does the trick in the car. No need for the on-screen navigation.

Smoogs@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 317d
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Smoogs@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 317d (4 replies)

Cops will give a ticket for distracted driving if a phone is used even in navigation. The screen is a safety feature.

viking@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 317d (3 replies)

What? As long as I program the route before starting and don't touch my phone until I arrive, nothing happens.

Smoogs@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 317d (2 replies)

Nothing to do with touching it. If it’s presently in use in any way they will ticket for distracted driving. Some people are even pstd if someone beside the driver is using their phone. The screen provided way to circumvent this issue.

viking@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 317d

In which country is that? I've used my phone for navigation for the last 10 years or so without issues.

Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 317d (8 replies)

Buy a map book. Plan your journey in advance. Cars were a thing for decades before map software was a thing, and everyone muddled through. You can too.

LowtierComputer@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 317d (3 replies)

That's unrealistic and a much slower option than other map software.

Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 317d (2 replies)
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LowtierComputer@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 317d (1 reply)

I grew up using maps to navigate. I learned land navigation before you were working a full time job. I don't use Google's search engine. I don't buy their new phones. How do I know you're not the fascist bootlicker, being a rage-baiter online to sow discontent?

Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 317d

Well, you could try not being a fucking moron? I mean, Im telling you all to drop google and apple. How in the blue fuck would that advance my position, if I was a fascist bootlicker?

Look, its real fucking easy. You do something, or you dont. But if youre not going to, then be fucking honest about it. Dont make shit up about how its too hard to read a map, or that you wont be able to make calls or whatever other stupid as fuck excuses have been made. You are all moaning about the gestapo running around, and how these mobile providers are supporting their actions. The action required is clear, turn off your phones. Dont buy new ones. But here we are, fuck know how many replies in, and its nothing but "Oh, I would. But then, how could I find my way around?" Or "oh, I would. But linuxphone isnt ready yet....". Like old nokias or dumb phones arent a valid option. But what do they not have? Social media bullshit. Which makes the argument they are making pretty fucking clear. They only care about being seen to be standing up to fascism. If they cant get the up arrows, they dont want to do it.

Its the same with Amazon treating its workers like shit. Everybody moaned, but no one stopped ordering because that would inconvenience them too much. A generation of moaners, thats all these people are. With no fucking backbone to actually stand up for what they, say, they believe in.

Smoogs@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 317d (3 replies)

It was also much more dangerous. I know, I was there.

Somethings today advanced for safety reasons for very good reason. If it comes negotiating conspiracy over safety I think it’s at that moment that it’s fair to say it is unreasonable.

Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 317d (2 replies)
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Smoogs@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 317d (1 reply)

Well Someone is so delicate and offended in this thread they started ad hominem attacks and name calling. It sure isn’t me, little snowflake. Maybe you should calm down.

Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 317d
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Kondeeka@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 317d

One of the founders of Fairphone is working on a European alternative phone OS called Mobifree, which is also open source. Google free Android also already exists.

Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 319d (4 replies)
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Reverendender@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 319d (2 replies)

I’m honestly fine if we just compost them.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 319d

landfill, they arnt worthy to be reused as compost, they will just contiminate the soil.

Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 319d
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possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 319d

You do you I guess

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 319d (5 replies)

I wonder what happened behind the scenes

plyth@feddit.org · 4 pts · 319d

Apple also removed their app. Something must have happened.

shalafi@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 319d

No shit! Can you imagine the conversations? Were they subtle, blatant threats, what?!

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 319d (2 replies)

Taking turn giving trump a fellatio

krooklochurm@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 319d (1 reply)

Like sucking on one of those mini candy canes.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 318d

stormy daniels knows.

iAvicenna@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 317d

uwu they are working under very hash conditions to terrorise children and other civilians

Vertelleus@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 319d (2 replies)

Why does it have to be an app? Why can't it be just a webpage?

twice_hatch@midwest.social · 19 pts · 319d (1 reply)

Apps have more permissions than webpages in general

  • Better long-term storage
  • Better notifications when closed or not focused
  • Ability to make noise (I think)
  • Ability to run background services
  • Ability to run offline or on a weak signal without fighting the browser to make it cache you

Like PWAs exist but apps are supported better in general. And although a web app may work fine for reporting in general, if you want to alert people (I'm not sure if these apps are meant to act like a parallel reverse 911 system) apps do better

Vertelleus@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 318d

Thanks for explaining. With Google putting the squeeze on opensource and sideloaded applications, PWA maybe the way to go for reporting, with an opt-in for text notifications for the "reverse 911."

TuffNutzes@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 318d

Good puppy dogs doing Dear Leader's bidding. History will remember!

drhodl@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 318d (6 replies)

"You just uninstalled Chrome We’re sorry to see you go. Please help us improve Google Chrome by filling out this short survey. Your feedback is appreciated." And....no link to any survey provided, so I can't tell them why they can go fuck themselves. I still use Youtube non premium, with an ad blocker, but I'm open to any suggestions for a replacement site.....

tomi000@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 318d

PeerTube, but it cant be called an alternative (yet)

TomArrr@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 318d (4 replies)

https://odysee.com/

Only just discovered it last night, so, not sure what it really has to offer

boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 318d (3 replies)

It was said to have a nazi problem a while ago. Has that changed? I don't see anything too problematic on the front page right now.

TomArrr@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 318d

Didn't know about this. I'm gonna have to do a little research I think

traceur402@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 318d (1 reply)

The front page I'm getting is certainly kind of smelly

boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 317d

Yeah I noticed some pepes later

TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 318d

Next up: Won't anyone think of the abusers? Who's the true victim of domestic violence?

In case anyone is wondering why an international tech giant caves so easily to the US government when the companies that own late night hosts still have them running: https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/05/tech/google-eu-antitrust-fine-adtech

Angelusz@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 319d

Grand Play.

SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 318d

Yes because, as everyone knows, the real enemies are brown people with funny accents. /s

ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 318d

Ew