It's been a while since I saw the ep, but wasn't Moriarty stuck on because the computer was asked to create an opponent that could beat Data and it got caught in a weird loop? I'm pretty sure Moriarty was a major exception in some way, none of the other constructs are self aware and all get turned off with the program
Did he actually stay on like Moriarty? IIRC, Moriarty became self-aware/sentient and the crew was ethically bound to keep him running. With Vic Fontaine, I think it was more a case of “saving the game” so he could continue friendships when he was activated again.
Not all the time. There's an episode where Vic mentions the longest he's ever been on has been 7-9 hours ::: spoiler spoiler
When Nog had his leg replaced and suffered from PTSD
:::
He's a standalone hologram inside the medbay, although IIRC in later seasons Tom Paris rigs up some portable holoprojector thing so he can walk around the ship. But yeah, that's similar. He grows and learns and expands his AI programming.
Huh......I had no idea this comic was a reference to a tv show. I just thought everyone else ALSO wanted to leave, because, well.....have you SEEN reality lately? I am not a fan. I can fully relate with wanting to log out of this timeline. How much worse can another reality possibly be? I feel like rolling the dice on a different timeline doesn't have much risk. Worst case scenario you an equally bad reality. We're already at bedrock.
I am a benevolent but incompetent ruler. My NPCs would be happy right up until they all died because I put off some boring upgrade/maintenance task and the colony exploded.
My bad, was meant to be an expansion, not a correction. I have the insufferable need to chime in sometimes and pre-resolve potential ambiguities. It's something im working on.
Reason I even brought it up is I'm usually nice to npc's in general, but man. Some people I see in videos or anecdotes from assosciates got me giving them a mad side-eye. 1's and 0's or not, the malice and sadism gets ridiculous sometimes. Makes me repeatedly realize how different some people consume the same game as me in ways I never thought of and/or could never bring myself to do.
Reason I even brought it up is I'm usually nice to npc's in general, but man. Some people I see in videos or anecdotes from assosciates got me giving them a mad side-eye. 1's and 0's or not, the malice and sadism gets ridiculous sometimes. Makes me repeatedly realize how different some people consume the same game as me in ways I never thought of and/or could never bring myself to do.
You'll be pleased to know in cases where single player games with branching storylines have collected data, it's been shown that players overwhelmingly go with the 'good' storyline :)
I'd like to see this done on a candid camera, punkd, etc type show. Build a set with some magician level gimmick and have someone do something game-y, then log out. The look on the faces of the people as their brains melted out their ears would be hilarious.
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panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 121 pts · 311d
This is the lesser shown part of the holodeck program.
We know they experience this because Moriarty learned to summon the arch.
BremboTheFourth@piefed.ca · 62 pts · 311d
It's been a while since I saw the ep, but wasn't Moriarty stuck on because the computer was asked to create an opponent that could beat Data and it got caught in a weird loop? I'm pretty sure Moriarty was a major exception in some way, none of the other constructs are self aware and all get turned off with the program
imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 311d
That one lounge singer in DS9 stayed on too
lividweasel@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 311d
Did he actually stay on like Moriarty? IIRC, Moriarty became self-aware/sentient and the crew was ethically bound to keep him running. With Vic Fontaine, I think it was more a case of “saving the game” so he could continue friendships when he was activated again.
dohpaz42@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 311d
Yes, Vic Fontaine was a regular occurrence. He was not your typical program either, but because of that they let his program run all the time.
Dhs92@piefed.social · 7 pts · 311d
Not all the time. There's an episode where Vic mentions the longest he's ever been on has been 7-9 hours ::: spoiler spoiler When Nog had his leg replaced and suffered from PTSD :::
9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 310d
Isnt the voyager doctor also part of thr holodeck who can somehow walk around outside?
imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 310d
He's a standalone hologram inside the medbay, although IIRC in later seasons Tom Paris rigs up some portable holoprojector thing so he can walk around the ship. But yeah, that's similar. He grows and learns and expands his AI programming.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 311d
Huh......I had no idea this comic was a reference to a tv show. I just thought everyone else ALSO wanted to leave, because, well.....have you SEEN reality lately? I am not a fan. I can fully relate with wanting to log out of this timeline. How much worse can another reality possibly be? I feel like rolling the dice on a different timeline doesn't have much risk. Worst case scenario you an equally bad reality. We're already at bedrock.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 311d
I don’t think it is, it’s just a “Simpsons did it” moment where trek has explored a ton of sci-fi ideas over the decades.
TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub · 90 pts · 311d
Considering gaming experiences are usually more enjoyable than real life, I’d like to ask what’s outside like before logging out.
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works · 94 pts · 311d
They're more enjoyable for the player. It usually sucks big time to be an NPC in a game
DrDystopia@lemy.lol · 13 pts · 310d
I dunno man, I think I'd enjoy being an NPC in some of the sim/builders I play. I enjoy it when my loyal subjects are happy.
On the other hand, if they're not happy I usually decide to give them something to be not happy about.
You know what, forget the whole NPC thing. Players are voletile gods.
Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 310d
I am a benevolent but incompetent ruler. My NPCs would be happy right up until they all died because I put off some boring upgrade/maintenance task and the colony exploded.
moobythegoldensock@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 309d
I’d hate being an NPC in the games I play. Especially since fiery deaths are often a loophole to the “no killing NPCs” rule.
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 310d
Sometimes I feel like an Adventures of Link NPC.
I am error.
Hazmatastic@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 310d
Depends on the game. Depends on the player.
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 310d
Hazmatastic@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 310d
My bad, was meant to be an expansion, not a correction. I have the insufferable need to chime in sometimes and pre-resolve potential ambiguities. It's something im working on.
Reason I even brought it up is I'm usually nice to npc's in general, but man. Some people I see in videos or anecdotes from assosciates got me giving them a mad side-eye. 1's and 0's or not, the malice and sadism gets ridiculous sometimes. Makes me repeatedly realize how different some people consume the same game as me in ways I never thought of and/or could never bring myself to do.
Anyway, interjection over, that was it
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 310d
You'll be pleased to know in cases where single player games with branching storylines have collected data, it's been shown that players overwhelmingly go with the 'good' storyline :)
Axolotl_cpp@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 310d
Wait until they discover minecraft players...
MithranArkanere@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 310d
Gotta give credit to games like Stardew.
CaptPretentious@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 311d
Sorry but you NPCs aren't supposed to know that information... It causes issues...
cerement@slrpnk.net · 18 pts · 311d
Birch@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 311d
Great day for fishin, aint it
FiskFisk33@startrek.website · 8 pts · 311d
I want to achieve Chim
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 3 pts · 311d
Great to hear. Just terminate the session then. Do it now!
ook@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 311d
Ignot@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 311d
Are you questioning the nature of your reality?
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 311d
I know it probably has a reset button.
MithranArkanere@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 310d
Like Bo Burnham sang once From God's Perspective, we may be "just a bad game of Sims".
Sunsofold@lemmings.world · 82 pts · 311d
I'd like to see this done on a candid camera, punkd, etc type show. Build a set with some magician level gimmick and have someone do something game-y, then log out. The look on the faces of the people as their brains melted out their ears would be hilarious.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 310d
Trapdoor would be easiest, but something other than smoke would be preferable.
a14o@feddit.org · 67 pts · 311d
"Colon W Q!"
Davel23@fedia.io · 31 pts · 311d
Oh god, we're living in vi. That explains so much.
tetris11@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 311d
"Con Troll Ex, Control Sea."
hakunawazo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 311d
Ah, command mode is in my colon. That explains the shitty experience within this game.
Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 310d
"Escape escape COLON W Q!"
Enekk@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 310d
:x!Is the waya14o@feddit.org · 1 pts · 309d
I use
ZZirl, but:wqis the memeQuetzalcutlass@lemmy.world · 55 pts · 310d
I'll take "pranks I'd pull if I had a teleporter" for 500, Alex.
Caveman@piefed.social · 52 pts · 311d
This is terrifying.
al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com · 9 pts · 311d
Or is it the greatest relief?
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 46 pts · 311d
ragas@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 311d
:q
ICastFist@programming.dev · 10 pts · 310d
COLON Q! COLON QUEUE! COLON KYU! COLON EXCLAMARION KYU! IT'S NOT WORKIIIIIIIIIING!
Valmond@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 311d
No saving?
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 310d
Get a load of this guy with a life he might want to come back to. Even at my best moments I’d maybe git stash.
sundray@lemmus.org · 4 pts · 310d
Wait, where did ragas go? What's happening here?!!!
deleteme@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 311d
Because they can’t quit it?
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 311d
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 40 pts · 311d
Fuck logging out, I'm gonna change the parameters.
Computer; Arch!
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 311d
I use arch btw
sundray@lemmus.org · 3 pts · 310d
Fire up the media player, I think the entire world needs to listen to some Sparks.
BilSabab@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 311d
Strange that Star Trek never did that scenario - it is pure Pirandello existential horror.
Davel23@fedia.io · 34 pts · 311d
They kind of did, in TNG. "Ship in a Bottle".
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 12 pts · 311d
Season 6 Episode 12
For those of us who are going to go and watch this right now.
siskourso@odin.lanofthedead.xyz · 7 pts · 311d
This one of my favorite TNG episodes.
buttnugget@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 310d
Great episode. Makes sense they’d refer to these types of close ended episodes as “bottle” eps.
BilSabab@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 310d
man, i forgot about that episode. shame on me. Grand TNG rewatch is overdue!
Tattorack@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 310d
Computer, arch.
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 311d
Now I want to see this as an actual magic trick.
ericheese@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 311d
Sao?
Sunsofold@lemmings.world · 9 pts · 311d
.hack//Sign?
VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 311d
Star Trek?
Hupf@feddit.org · 2 pts · 311d
But in reverse
kilgore_trout@feddit.it · 7 pts · 310d
Reminds me of Code Lyoko.
vane@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 311d
Computer - load game.
Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 310d
Imagine arguing with someone and they suddenly shout "Computer, quicksave!"
Naz@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 310d
Oh man, what a headache, it feels like I just got shot in the head a bunch of times and then thrown off a cliff.
What were we arguing about?
Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 309d
... Is the intro to New Vegas just Bennie doing this after we shit-talked him and him forgetting to quickload afterwards?