Damn, as a polyamorous vegan with a pilot’s cert, I feel called out. But I wasn’t going to say anything about any of that until your comment performed a hat-trick and summoned me from the depths.
It's a cultivated status. You have to have a lot of money to become one, you get paid a lot of money, and then you don't get to have a domestic life once you become one. So a lot goes into selling they lifestyle of being a pilot, which is what aura really is but don't tell the kids that.
But also nobody wants to see a pilot rushing through the airport, because they’re supposed to be calm, levelheaded people. And you definitely don’t want them rushing through takeoff procedures.
The first two lines weren’t true until more recently. Becoming a pilot was expensive, but not out of reach. You could literally do it by earning money fueling planes up until ~20 years ago. Also, you didn’t get paid shit up until 10 years ago and they started desperately throwing money at new pilots to hire and keep them. Even some larger airlines paid like shit for newer pilots depending on aircraft for a really long while.
The dream was to make it to a major and put enough years in to make the big money.
But in the last decade things have really changed. Pay is decent even for a lot of the smaller aircraft (but not great, depending). But training costs are outrageous compared to 25-35 years ago.
I'm always surprised they don't have their own proprietary underground tunnel system to get around the airports. But no, they just walk through all the concourses with all the rest of us plebians.
This is a weird take to me. Why should we not idolize and revere workers who do critical labor on which our society depends? I understand objecting to the lack of idolization for other forms of labor. But to say that you dont afford respect and admiration to workers performing any labor is odd.
I moreso meant that I think glorifying the labor of working class people in general is a good thing. Not any one particular form of labor, just all forms of labor in general. Of course all people have flaws and are imperfect, I never suggested otherwise.
I'm not a Marxist-Leninist, far from it, but I do appreciate broad strokes the art they made glorifying the labor of the working class. Even though they constantly disrespected workers and acted against their rights, they nominally fostered a culture that glorified the labor done by workers every day. I think that on the whole is a good thing. I think it's good to show a reverence for workers of all types.
Fair enough but this doesn't make much sense to me in the context of this post, since it implies that pilots are / should be idolized more than any of the other travelers (also mostly labourers of some sort) or other airport staff.
A supposed subtle emanation from and enveloping living persons and things, viewed by mystics as consisting of the essence of the individual, serving as the medium for the operation of mesmeric and similar influences.
”Peculiar substances can be charged with the efflux or aura of the human being.”
I don't even understand what the joke is here? Is "aura" the word you're taking issue with? It's not like a sentence filled with Gen Z slang. And aura has been around for at least a hundred years.
You also have a positive score, so the comment about being down voted doesn't make sense either.
Thank you both. I've never had the honour of having a comment downvoted so many times on Lemmy, so I presume that I raised some Gen Z hackles with my response. I know what an aura is, of course.
58 Comments
henfredemars@infosec.pub · 107 pts · 250d
Don’t worry. If they’re a pilot, they’re gonna tell you.
TheAsianDonKnots@lemmy.zip · 60 pts · 250d
Pilots, vegans, and polyamorous couples.
lena@gregtech.eu · 73 pts · 250d
Don't forget about Linux users!
calliope@retrolemmy.com · 37 pts · 250d
For a while, people who did CrossFit too
ratel@mander.xyz · 18 pts · 250d
They're all suffering from injuries now.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 250d
Yay kipping pull ups
Speculater@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 250d
They still exist, but it's not the cultural phenomenon it once was.
chunes@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 250d
If someone is a vegan, polyamorous linux user who's a pilot, which one would they mention first?
Eheran@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 250d
They give you a card.
janus2@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 249d
i would carry around a cardboard spinner wheel as a joke at that point
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz · 2 pts · 249d
😳
victorz@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 250d
Arch btw
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 250d
And marathon runners
Mora@pawb.social · 31 pts · 250d
I mean how else would we recruit more people for our D&D sessions?
MeThisGuy@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 249d
with a pineapple
Agent641@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 249d
Just taking a break from Crossfit to have a vape and read this comment. Very true! ( I use arch btw)
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 249d
Damn, as a polyamorous vegan with a pilot’s cert, I feel called out. But I wasn’t going to say anything about any of that until your comment performed a hat-trick and summoned me from the depths.
TheBat@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 250d
fonix232@fedia.io · 14 pts · 250d
Well the poly kinda checks out, they're banging every stewardess they come across, so...
aeronmelon@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 250d
They’ve kind of earned it. Just watching an airline pilot put 200 people down safely in a crosswind is all the convincing one needs.
MeThisGuy@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 249d
then we clap
FelixCress@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 250d
That's vegans.
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 66 pts · 250d
It's a cultivated status. You have to have a lot of money to become one, you get paid a lot of money, and then you don't get to have a domestic life once you become one. So a lot goes into selling they lifestyle of being a pilot, which is what aura really is but don't tell the kids that.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 52 pts · 250d
But also nobody wants to see a pilot rushing through the airport, because they’re supposed to be calm, levelheaded people. And you definitely don’t want them rushing through takeoff procedures.
No1@aussie.zone · 26 pts · 250d
Yeah, they should be nice and relaxed. Maybe a few drinks at the bar would help
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 250d
Aeroflot pilot has entered chat.
ByteJunk@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 249d
You mean the bar
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 249d
The first two lines weren’t true until more recently. Becoming a pilot was expensive, but not out of reach. You could literally do it by earning money fueling planes up until ~20 years ago. Also, you didn’t get paid shit up until 10 years ago and they started desperately throwing money at new pilots to hire and keep them. Even some larger airlines paid like shit for newer pilots depending on aircraft for a really long while.
The dream was to make it to a major and put enough years in to make the big money.
But in the last decade things have really changed. Pay is decent even for a lot of the smaller aircraft (but not great, depending). But training costs are outrageous compared to 25-35 years ago.
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 249d
Good to know. Thanks for the fact check
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 249d
Not trying to contradict, just add a little updating and nuance.
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 249d
No, I got you 👍
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 249d
I'm always surprised they don't have their own proprietary underground tunnel system to get around the airports. But no, they just walk through all the concourses with all the rest of us plebians.
Dremor@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 249d
How else would they flaunt their big pilot energy?
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 22 pts · 250d
What about the guys that pump the go-juice into the wing tanks?
rook@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 249d
they get fired
Feyr@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 249d
Pulped, digested, and fed back into the engine as fuel
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 249d
Jet-A Green is people!!!!
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 249d
That's the red variant.
rook@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 249d
He probably practised his whole life for this moment, I bet he has other lines too
MeThisGuy@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 249d
the best lines are airlines
TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com · 17 pts · 250d
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 249d
The last line is in regular rotation.
golden@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 250d
No thanks. I don't simp for job positions.
LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 249d
This is a weird take to me. Why should we not idolize and revere workers who do critical labor on which our society depends? I understand objecting to the lack of idolization for other forms of labor. But to say that you dont afford respect and admiration to workers performing any labor is odd.
golden@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 249d
I respect workers by wanting them to get their fair share of the labor.
I don't need to start rating people based on their profession and denigrating most workers for not having these auraful jobs.
LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 249d
Okay, I agree with that. Your use of the word simp was a bit open to interpretation.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 249d
For pulluting the shit out of the skies, and bringing the end upon us, with their own two hands.
grindemup@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 249d
Why would you idolize anyone? To err is human; we all have flaws and just because you have a fancy profession does not mean you are a good person.
LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 249d
I moreso meant that I think glorifying the labor of working class people in general is a good thing. Not any one particular form of labor, just all forms of labor in general. Of course all people have flaws and are imperfect, I never suggested otherwise.
I'm not a Marxist-Leninist, far from it, but I do appreciate broad strokes the art they made glorifying the labor of the working class. Even though they constantly disrespected workers and acted against their rights, they nominally fostered a culture that glorified the labor done by workers every day. I think that on the whole is a good thing. I think it's good to show a reverence for workers of all types.
grindemup@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 248d
Fair enough but this doesn't make much sense to me in the context of this post, since it implies that pilots are / should be idolized more than any of the other travelers (also mostly labourers of some sort) or other airport staff.
Eheran@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 250d
I do not understand why people do that for jobs that what, how many, 100'000? have.
the_mighty_kracken@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 249d
The escalator thing? He definitely wanted to look at her butt.
espentan@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 249d
The (air)bus drivers of the sky.
dparticiple@sh.itjust.works · -10 pts · 250d
I'm an accomplished native English speaker, but suspect this may be written in a foreign language. strokes beard adjusts bow tie .
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 249d
I have native-level proficiency in Cantonese, Mandarin, and English.
adjusts glasses
(okay I didn't wanna brag, but, I didn't start it lol)
Eheran@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 250d
Ah, are you?
brbposting@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 250d
You got me curious about something…
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 249d
I don't even understand what the joke is here? Is "aura" the word you're taking issue with? It's not like a sentence filled with Gen Z slang. And aura has been around for at least a hundred years.
You also have a positive score, so the comment about being down voted doesn't make sense either.
dparticiple@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 249d
Thank you both. I've never had the honour of having a comment downvoted so many times on Lemmy, so I presume that I raised some Gen Z hackles with my response. I know what an aura is, of course.