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“what is the biggest number”
AI Overview
The biggest number in the world is so big that mathematicians don't even think it exists.
Top 5 biggest numbers, according to me.
- 5
- 1 Million
- 100 Billion
- 999 Trillion
- Brazillian
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Original post: https://xcancel.com/ChatgptLunatics/status/1995441330986598532

85 Comments
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 69 pts · 259d
It's true. If you ask a mathematician what number is the biggest they won't give you a straight answer.
Like, what even is an aleph?
prime_number_314159@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 259d
In set theory, sets containing an infinite number things are relatively easy to describe. For example, "All the counting numbers" is a set with an infinite number of things in it.
Many sets with an infinite number of things have a one to one correspondence to each other, meaning that we can describe a function that takes elements of one set as an input, gives elements of the other set as an output, and spans both sets - no element is skipped on either side.
"All the even counting numbers" has a one to one correspondence with "All the counting numbers". You can look into Hilbert's Hotel for a good demonstration of how this works.
Not all sets with an infinite number of things correspond with the set of all counting numbers, because some are fundamentally bigger. This difference in size doesn't happen just once (e.g. there are countably infinite sets, and uncountably infinite sets, and that's all we need to know), there are actually an infinite number of sets of progressively bigger infinite numbers of elements.
Because this is a confusing mess, we needed a way to keep track of how infinitely big each infinitely big set is, and the aleph cardinalities are the preferred way to do that. Any set with cardinality of aleph zero (aka "aleph null") has a one to one correspondence with any other set with cardinality aleph zero. The same is true for every other aleph cardinality. Two sets of cardinality aleph thirty seven have a one to one correspondence with each other.
Anyways, busy beaver(tree(aleph omega)) is the biggest number.
tyler@programming.dev · 17 pts · 259d
Pretty sure they were being sarcastic. I mean they know the word aleph which strongly indicates they know what sets of infinite numbers are.
Scubus@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 258d
Is mayonnaise a number?
fartographer@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 258d
No, dumbass. Mayonnaise is two numbers.
jambudz@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 258d
Bet > aleph
zedgeist@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 258d
Gimel > bet
jambudz@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 256d
I love me some chocolate coins.
in_the_dark_forest@feddit.org · 3 pts · 258d
Now I went down a rabbit hole reading about aleph and tree(3). I did not even study math why do I do this to myself...
solomonschuler@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 257d
abfarid@startrek.website · 10 pts · 259d
-ant! Finish your words, it's not that hard!
jambudz@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 258d
There is no biggest number. By virtue of the real numbers (the largest orderable set) being unbounded, for every number in R you can find a number larger. You can also find a number smaller for any number.
davidagain@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 258d
Indeed, but OP was referencing aleph_0 and aleph_1 etc, the cardinality of the integers and the reals respectively.
jambudz@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 258d
Bet is bigger
davidagain@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 258d
Well, with aleph_0 being the smallest infinity and aleph_1 being the second smallest known infinity, I can't pretend to be surprised.
jambudz@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 258d
Aleph is U2135, bet is U2136. Is biggerer
davidagain@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 258d
Paradoxically, the empty set is U+2205.
THEY ARE PLAYING US FOR ABSOLUTE FOOLS!
jambudz@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 256d
OH MY SWEET SATAN! The empty set is bigger than the first two orders of infinity
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 258d
They'll say there's no such thing, and that's why we have concept of Infinity.
Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip · 50 pts · 258d
Deadeyegai@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 259d
Jerb322@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 258d
I heard there was a earthquake in Rio de Janeiro. The casualties were in the Brazilians.
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br · -7 pts · 258d
Pretty unlikely to have an earthquake in Rio de Janeiro.
Edit: you people need to check the number of recording earthquakes on Rio de Janeiro.
canofcam@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 257d
it was a joke mate
Randelung@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 258d
OK but that's hilarious.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 22 pts · 258d
This is the AI I want. Like pure early day chaos where Will Smith couldn't eat spaghetti, that Forever Seinfeld on twitch, the weird recipes like 80lbs of salt.
Object@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 259d
Every time I see one of those AI fuckups and try it myself, it never works :/
GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml · 27 pts · 259d
It's pretty easy to fake one using the developer tools in your browser.
underisk@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 259d
They aren’t deterministic. There are a few common ones that are cached, but if you get bad (or good?) RNG in the response generation you’ll never manage to get the same result as someone else.
CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 258d
I asked the Brave search AI thing and it said this:
No idea if that's accurate or not but it sounds legit lol.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 258d
The lesson you should take away here is that unsourced screenshots on social media are always fake and made up.
xep@discuss.online · 20 pts · 258d
That's Numberwang! It's time to rotate the board.
Swaus01@piefed.social · 2 pts · 257d
It's so funny that Webb and Mitchell made that sketch, clearly poking fun at the tradition of gameshows in the UK, only for David Mitchell to end up marrying Victoria Coren, the host of Only Connect.
I wonder if it came up during a date, and she forced him to pledge allegiance to only connect.
blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 257d
He's also been on WILTY for yonks.
In fact I've seen episodes where they've both been on
potatoguy@lemmy.eco.br · 17 pts · 259d
i'm sorry tree(3)
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 259d
ahem.
Brazillian?
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 259d
Best I can do is 3.50.
mtpender@piefed.social · 10 pts · 259d
"God damn Loch Ness monster!"
meco03211@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 259d
I always liked Graham's Number. I didn't like that it was TREE(1)=1, TREE(2)=3, and TREE(3) dwarfs even Graham's Number. At least G=g_64 which is built up from g_1.
Gork@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 259d
TREE(g_64)
meco03211@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 258d
Motherofgod.jpg
recklessengagement@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 259d
You just sent me down a rabbit hole learning about TREE(3), thank you
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 258d
Link?
JustAPenguin@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 258d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kruskal's_tree_theorem#TREE_function
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 258d
To be fair, there are a ton of people living in Brazil. There are like, Brazillians of them.
Rooster326@programming.dev · 14 pts · 258d
BIG if true
webp@mander.xyz · 5 pts · 258d
How big?
davidagain@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 258d
1 Brazillian.
No, 1 Hollywood.
PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space · 4 pts · 258d
Underrated comment.
dan69@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 258d
Not even Bro-zillian*
davidagain@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 258d
Username checks out.
Whatever floats your boat, mate!
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 12 pts · 258d
Infinity... times two.
undergroundoverground@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 258d
Tbf, some infinities are bigger than others.
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 258d
Infinity times three no comebacks
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 258d
I want a Brazilian dollars lol
postcapitalism@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 258d
Honestly this is a great answer
lemmywinksthegerbilking@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 258d
I was looking for doc's age in the movie...
luciferofastora@feddit.org · 3 pts · 257d
Aren't there some time travel shenanigans? Maybe they account for six extra years
groucho@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 257d
He goes to a de-aging health spa in part 2, which further complicates things.
PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space · 9 pts · 258d
"Pick a number - any number - between one and one Brazilian. Don't tell me the number. Now multiply it by 3..."
MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 258d
Well, guess I am a number now
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 258d
I always knew I could count on you
MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 258d
valeu broder, é nóis 👍
renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net · 8 pts · 258d
This is likely fake, but still funny. I just tried it and got a reasonable answer.
GenosseFlosse@feddit.org · 16 pts · 258d
Could still be real. Ai will give different answers to the same question.
kromem@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 258d
It's quite plausibly real. Gemini can def get in shitposty basins and has historically had a fairly inconsistent coherence across samples.
sudoer777@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 258d
Posting responses like these is a mainstream social media trend, so probably
rodneylives@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 258d
24 is the highest number.
24 is the highest number.
Proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYyS0L0uJ7A
DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 258d
i DIDN'T expect a mr. show fan here
Little8Lost@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 258d
Biggest signed 32 bit integer i can do gets to 2038
Harvey656@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 258d
If this is real an unedited... maybe ai wasnt a mistake
friend_of_satan@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 258d
TurdBurgler@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 258d
Garbage in, garbage out
greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 258d
I can only count to four
Skanky@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 258d
80085
groucho@lemmy.sdf.org · 5 pts · 258d
Here's a fun game: ask gemini to accurately represent all digits in the largest number possible with a 64-bit float. So far I've gotten
0,000and a 65,013-digit number that's mostly zeroes.Lemminary@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 258d
Interesting. This is what ChatGPT came up with which at least sounds plausible:
groucho@lemmy.sdf.org · 10 pts · 258d
That ... is doing a lot of the heavy lifting. Insist on accuracy in all 309 places and see what happens.
Then ask it to find the prime factors.
edit: it's not about getting the right answer. it's about hurting computers.
Lemminary@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 258d
I would but I don't have the depth of knowledge for this. I just wanted to see if it'd spit out some nonsense. 😅
Krudler@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 258d
The biggest number is TREE(3)
Lemminary@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 258d
TREE(3) + 1
#gottem 😎
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 258d
TREE(TREE(3)+1)
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 258d
no
jlow@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 258d
Haha, my partner also does this when I ask what's you're favourite X its never just one thing, its ALLWAYS a list of things.
betanumerus@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 258d
DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 258d
24
dan69@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 258d
6
YaGirlAutumn@leminal.space · 3 pts · 258d
I thought the biggest number was one morbillion