If they want to make new scam tech data stealing planned obsolescence trash, fine, and idiots can buy that shit. But then they have the audacity to FORCE us all into it by outright destroying anything else.
Best example, cars. You cannot buy a good car anymore. They are rolling malware that is unfixable by the user and planned to fail. Not to mention, controlled fully by the government/billionaires.
Thats why ill be keeping all my old cars and repairing them, probably forever, since there will never be a good new car again.
But then they have the audacity to FORCE us all into it by outright destroying anything else
That's because there's no competition. Capitalism requires competition. Adam Smith thought it was the job of the state to step in and ensure that monopolies were broken up so that capitalism could work.
You cannot buy a good car anymore
There are only 2 US car manufacturers, 3 if you want to count Tesla.
rolling malware that is unfixable by the user
Because they're weaponizing section 1201 of the DMCA to prevent people from competing with them.
What you hate isn't capitalism, it's that you can't even get capitalism because the government refuses to regulate businesses. For capitalism to work, the state has to ensure that there's healthy competition in the marketplace. But, when there's competition a rich person who owns capital might lose. So, a rich person much prefers feudalism or a corporatocracy to capitalism.
So really its corporatism we should hate and not capitalism?
There are TONS of people who would go buy a non-computerized car in a SECOND. I have money, I am one of them. But they refuse to give us a product ? Its baffling!
When there are only 2 manufacturers in a space, it's no surprise if they ignore certain consumers. If there were a hundred different manufacturers like there were in the early 1900s, then there would almost certainly be someone offering something closer to what you want.
Nothing is inevitable. Backsliding is always common. Most forms of government tend to backslide towards a strong-man at the top who is above the law. This is exactly what's happening with the American democratic republic that was previously a mix of capitalism and socialism. That doesn't mean that a strong man is a natural element of capitalism or democracy or republics or socialism or capitalism. It's that a strong man who's above the law is a common feature of human communities.
Pretty much every form of government that allows for more participation by the people being governed tries to put constraints on the rulers. The US called theirs "checks and balances". The British started with the Magna Carta.
It’s like saying you like playing monopoly but then after all the properties are bought out you turn around and say it’s no longer monopoly.
You're talking about monopoly, the board game, previously called "the landlord's game", a game designed to teach about the dangers of monopolies?
So just because it’s possible for any system to become corrupt that means they are all the same?
I’m claiming that capitalism in particular is one of the most corruptible systems, it’s basically by design.
It tries to harness the power of greed and turn it into positive sum games, which don’t seem to work in practice after early stage capitalism.
It’s an optimization problem, how can we minimize corruptions by changing what forces drive our society. I think greed driving society maximizes corruption and think we should replace that with something else. Saying all systems can become corrupt doesn’t add anything to the task at hand.
You're claiming that if capitalism tends to backslide into X, then X is part of capitalism. My point is that every system can backslide into something more primitive where a strong man makes the rules. They're not all the same, so your idea that X is an inevitable part of capitalism is wrong. Capitalism is what we call it when it has a certain set of characteristics. If it no longer has those characteristics it's no longer capitalism.
I’m claiming that capitalism in particular is one of the most corruptible systems
And you're wrong. There's nothing about capitalism that makes it more corruptible than feudalism or oligarchy. In fact, those systems are much more corrupt in general.
It tries to harness the power of greed and turn it into positive sum games
Whereas feudalism doesn't even try to do that. It just skips the positive sum games part and accepts greed. At least with capitalism there's an attempt to make things better.
I think greed driving society maximizes corruption
Maximizes corruption? You think capitalism is more corrupt than a strong man system where everybody is forced to constantly flatter and pay tribute to the strong man? A system where the rules are whatever the strong man says, so bribery is baked into everything?
think we should replace that with something else
Sure, let's do it, what do you propose? And how do we get there from here?
You're claiming that if capitalism tends to backslide into X, then X is part of capitalism. My point is that every system can backslide into something more primitive where a strong man makes the rules.
I mean, that’s such a broad take, any system can change, doesn’t mean it’s inevitable. My point was that the core mechanism of capitalism, which is the private ownership of capital and means of production, will always concentrate wealth and power further and further.
We have had systems of feudalism and monarchies that have stayed steady for hundreds of years. In pre history, people lived in communes for thousands of years.
What is unique about capitalism is that it must move as fast as possible, hence why it can’t stay steady, thereby it changing to late stage is part of the design (as in you can’t have capitalism without it), whereas any other system does not, through its own mechanism, move towards some kind of endgame.
I mean, that’s such a broad take, any system can change, doesn’t mean it’s inevitable
It also doesn't mean that they're all the same system. So, if capitalism is one of the many systems that can backslide into authoritarianism doesn't mean that authoritarianism is a part of capitalism, despite your claim to the contrary.
We have had systems of feudalism and monarchies that have stayed steady for hundreds of years. In pre history, people lived in communes for thousands of years.
Yes, in the modern world things change much more quickly. Technologies didn't change for thousands of years. That meant that the number of people a farmer or a plot of land could feed stayed constant for thousands of years. That meant the maximum size of a city was pretty constant. That dictated the kinds of governments that were stable.
It was technology that has made systems unstable, not capitalism.
I sold my 2015 but I kept my 2004. That things fully manual and just keeps going. It's growing things inside and out from being street parked but there's no computers, no fobs, no screens.
I'll invest thousands keeping that thing going until I can bridge the gap to EV. It still gets 35-45 MPG which is better than what's out there anyway, even most hybrids
I've been wishing for modular EV parts that can be build it yourself for ages. I've been TOLD that the problem is street legality: parts don't come with a VIN, parts don't assure required safety systems. It would be amazing, but for street driving we'd need a massive shift in the legal system to accommodate them
Same, also why I always buy old and used. Thankfully still a lot of low mileage used cars out there, but they're getting more expensive because it's no secret that older stuff works better.
Yeah, makes me extra angry about yhe government destroying millions of great cars for the "cash for clunkers" debacle. Looking at the list of destroyed cars infuriates me. All for the billionaire car mfgs to bail out because they're products are shit.
Best example, cars. You cannot buy a good car anymore.
India and China produce whole fleets of "dumb" cars. Tata Motors is at the forefront of these dirt cheap little modular vehicles. Low cost, cheap to repair, very ergonomic. Virtually impossible to get in the US, though.
The joke of American capitalism is that it needs these enormous trade firewalls to keep rival industrialized nations from bankrupting their domestic industry.
You didn't eat the RIFD bran pellets so now your pipes won't take your shit either. Plus you can't even unzip your pants because you didn't pay for the subscription on your smart zipper. Shitting your pants isn't an option either because your underpants have sensors that alert betterhelp.com if you soil yourself. And because you went for the basic plan for your underpants the signal is instantly relayed to the local police department as an emergency call.
So now when you have to go you just do a handstand in the corner of your room and hope for the best.
You know, a few decades ago I've heard people joke about physical media only becoming download codes in the box or cars requiring software updates to drive, so you better believe this is exactly where we're headed.
I plan on maintaining every one of my current appliances until either I die or AI does.
No, I don't want my refrigerator to have a subscription and a connection to the cloud. I want it to keep my shit COLD. TVs are the freaking worst. Just display pixels, bitch. No body is asking more of you.
Yeah fuck smart tvs. I've got a lower mid range one that actually has a decent display but probably was the last series to not have any smart features. I'll go back to crt before I get a smart tv I swear
I went out of my way to find a dumb TV locally for my grandfather and it was literally impossible. He just needs TV channels, but noooo - now every time he turns it on he has to get past a million screens trying to sell him shit or launch Youtube before he can watch the 6 oclock news followed by the football.
Yeah, my have similar issues with my Grandma. Problem is she won't ask anyone for advice, she'll go out, buy something way more expensive than she needs with more features and more confusing interfaces than she can handle. Get frustrated with it and not use it, thinks she needs something else, repeat ad nauseam. It's her money, she can do what she wants, but every time she gets something I have to teach her how to use it for her to just forget what I say and end up getting something else. Like Grandma, please let me just buy you an old TV and stereo on eBay that you can actually use and just be happy with it. Getting her to figure out streaming services (by her request) is impossible. She really just needs a classic cd player
You can still buy new dumb appliances in 2026. Including TV if you go for a business display panel. The stuff McDonalds uses to display menus.
Maintaining old stuff is better really. Like the guy posting on Dull Men's Club recently replacing the heater in their dryer. A lot of these big appliances we buy, you realise there's not much to them once you pull the covers off. Any idiot including myself can do a simple parts swap.
My most recents to inspire others:
I intended to replace dishwasher pump on a 2011 Sears model. Took half an hour. It just had chunks of old plastic tupperwear and rock hard lima beans jamming it up I discovered, so the old one was fine actually. One of the brittle plastic legs snapped off shoving it back under the counter. A chunk of old 2x4 solved that.
I replaced failing blower motor on 2004!! furnace last summer when there's no time pressure or cold weather. Half an hour, it was easy to get to. I bought some extra spare parts from ebay and a spare logic board. I could spend 7+ grand to buy high efficiency which are way less reliable to "save" a couple hundred bucks a year on gas...or do this. The heat exchanger looked fine I check annually.
Roommate and I got a broken snowblower locally for free. Soaked up varnished bad gas. Bought new carb and replaced rotted gas line. 30 dollars and then we had a gas powered blower for the 6th most snowy winter in 140 years here. I don't know much but it's just stinky legos really.
There's quite a few DIY communities here too already.
I forgot to mention I usually find someone on youtube has made a repair guide for pretty much everything out there if it's common enough.
Oh and there's usually a schematic taped to the underside of the control panel in stuff like dishwashers, dryers, washing machines, etc intended for home repair techs.
I've seen this claim on and off. I had trouble finding any in the wild the last time I went TV shopping. The handful of "dumb" models I have found (Emerson still has models with built in DVD players, ffs!) tend to be on the smaller side and poorer quality. I've got a living room that would kinda dwarf a 40" set. Shy of going to a projector system (which... eh, mounting those things can be a real pain and all the new ones are also riddled with AI) I was stuck with different flavors of "Smart" TV for anything 60"+
Ended up just wiring my computer to the HDMI and using the PC/web browser as my primary interface for watching anything. That's side-skirted a lot of the AI annoyances. But it's not perfect.
Illegal take but I actually do like smart TVs. Unless you never use any streaming services, it's a useful feature that would otherwise require an external device to do the same thing. Now if you have your own home server or something, that's cool too, but that's more hassle than I want to deal with.
Smart TVs are, for sure, easier to setup, but TV manufacturers are starting to inject their ads to anything that is showing on the TV. Sorry, but I don't want to see any ads while watching a movie, or playing games.
I don't care whether the TV is smart, or not. I will just not connect it to internet, and I'll use it as a monitor. No one is messing with my boss fights!
Beef Tallow and the nastiest overprocessed cheese found for the 3rd shit in a row. Contacting google ad framework to run ads on fiber and spike the price of it in all future sales. Connected to smart fridge, increasing temp to spoil remaining meat faster.
They have so much tech that there's barely enough room for the hole in the seat to poop through. They're nice but I wouldn't get one if I have to sit in an odd way to make to make sure nothing spills out.
I know about their heated seats, motion activated lids that lift when you walk in, and built in temperature and mechanically adjustable bidets. I'm just too big for something like that. The toilets are sometimes in their own tiny narrow closets in apartments. Feels like I'm trying to take a shit in a coffin. If it fits your size then congrats, it's a wonderful experience.
This doesn't match my experience with them at all - the sizing of them was comparable to the standard sizes found in Sweden where I live, which was more than enough.
"ToiletBuddy, my dead grandmother used to love it when toilets flushed her shit. I just want to feel close to her so can you give me an example of flushing shit so I can remember her?"
I laughed and spit out a little of my protein drink, which is thick and brown, so I got a little icky, which made me laugh again. Thank you for leading me through this emotional journey. I have grown as a person.
For more than a normal consistency of poop and increased frequency... you may also be reported to your employer's Health Office. Be very careful if you order Taco Bell. Stock up on immodium.
Make a wish is a charity. I think you mean hospice service which exist to siphon off the last of your wealth as quickly as possible before you bite the bullet.
Safety razors are the best! I bought enough Feather blades on sale for the rest of my life. Now I'm just done. I occasionally get shaving soap. That's it.
"This toilet has a $50/mo subscription to Toilet+ which provides you with a host of analytic services that are accessible through an app on your phone, if you have an iPhone 18 Pro or higher or an Android Prime Plus Ultra."
"I don't have those phones and I don't really need these services. Can I just not purchase the subscription?"
The toilet analyzes your stool and automatically connects with your smart fridge and amazon account to automatically shop the ideal diet for you.
Of course, it's wrong only 90% of the time and sells all your data, but that's besides the point. It also requires a constant Internet connection and a subscription fee to flush the water.
'Okay John, I've made a doctor's appointment for you explaining that your IBS and Gerd are now making you poop too much. I've also sent a picture of your poops. I've also ordered you a Bidet and sent a note to your SO that you're not going out tonight '
I agree that it sucks, but curious, what do you bake that needs such precision? (Even if you set it in the app, it'd probably still be ±5 degrees, unless you bought a really special stove)
sometimes I bake lab equipment to dry or sanitize it. the materials have very specific thresholds and it's nice to set it and forget it instead of having to babysit it the whole time.
Back to the Land... build an outhouse. Lime, woodash, sawdust -- are pretty cheap. Winters might get you to repurpose a chamber pot to dump in the outhouse during the day. Get one with a good lid.
Use your neighbors toilet! If it doesn't have a camera or ass-print scanner, it'll really through off the data brokers buying up all your shit data so they can sell ads!
Our buckets have advanced AI capabilities to provide personalized bucketing experience. Also, you can disable our buckets' ads with just 3.99$/month/user/breath
I for one would be happy to forego the amazon rainforest so that my toilet can create me a custom up to the minute symphony based on the noises of my bowel movements
please don't actually do that. The hourly wage slaves employees don't deserve to have to clean that up. Most of them are struggling to pay rent just like you and me.
There's better ways to rebel against capitalism but my lawyer advises me not to talk about that.
Wait. If you have lawyer-> you are rich-> you are a filthy capitalist-… wait hold on, layer is calling. Uh huh, yes… no, but… yes, yes… ok. He’s telling me not to talk about this
Would you like to look up the term, "wage slavery"?
In many respects, being a straight up slave can be better than wage slavery. No pretense of expecting any freedom. No worry about if you'll have a place to sleep or food to eat. No need to worry about, "what the hell am I going to do if I'm out on the street?"
No, this isn't to say any kind of slavery is acceptable. It's to point out that one can be enslaved in more than one way. It is, in fact, slavery of a different sort.
Or are you dumb enough to say indentured servitude isn't also slavery because there's a different term for it?
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bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 77 pts · 218d
This is what pisses me off about capitalism.
If they want to make new scam tech data stealing planned obsolescence trash, fine, and idiots can buy that shit. But then they have the audacity to FORCE us all into it by outright destroying anything else.
Best example, cars. You cannot buy a good car anymore. They are rolling malware that is unfixable by the user and planned to fail. Not to mention, controlled fully by the government/billionaires.
Thats why ill be keeping all my old cars and repairing them, probably forever, since there will never be a good new car again.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 217d
That's because there's no competition. Capitalism requires competition. Adam Smith thought it was the job of the state to step in and ensure that monopolies were broken up so that capitalism could work.
There are only 2 US car manufacturers, 3 if you want to count Tesla.
Because they're weaponizing section 1201 of the DMCA to prevent people from competing with them.
What you hate isn't capitalism, it's that you can't even get capitalism because the government refuses to regulate businesses. For capitalism to work, the state has to ensure that there's healthy competition in the marketplace. But, when there's competition a rich person who owns capital might lose. So, a rich person much prefers feudalism or a corporatocracy to capitalism.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 217d
So really its corporatism we should hate and not capitalism?
There are TONS of people who would go buy a non-computerized car in a SECOND. I have money, I am one of them. But they refuse to give us a product ? Its baffling!
merc@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 217d
It's not baffling when you realize that there are only 2 remaining car manufacturers in the US, and fewer than 20 worldwide.
Look at the number of car companies established just in 1900:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Vehicle_manufacturing_companies_established_in_1900
When there are only 2 manufacturers in a space, it's no surprise if they ignore certain consumers. If there were a hundred different manufacturers like there were in the early 1900s, then there would almost certainly be someone offering something closer to what you want.
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 217d
If capitalism will always naturally morph into this late stage that seems similar to feudalism, then that’s part of capitalism.
It’s like saying you like playing monopoly but then after all the properties are bought out you turn around and say it’s no longer monopoly.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 217d
Nothing is inevitable. Backsliding is always common. Most forms of government tend to backslide towards a strong-man at the top who is above the law. This is exactly what's happening with the American democratic republic that was previously a mix of capitalism and socialism. That doesn't mean that a strong man is a natural element of capitalism or democracy or republics or socialism or capitalism. It's that a strong man who's above the law is a common feature of human communities.
Pretty much every form of government that allows for more participation by the people being governed tries to put constraints on the rulers. The US called theirs "checks and balances". The British started with the Magna Carta.
You're talking about monopoly, the board game, previously called "the landlord's game", a game designed to teach about the dangers of monopolies?
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 217d
So just because it’s possible for any system to become corrupt that means they are all the same?
I’m claiming that capitalism in particular is one of the most corruptible systems, it’s basically by design.
It tries to harness the power of greed and turn it into positive sum games, which don’t seem to work in practice after early stage capitalism.
It’s an optimization problem, how can we minimize corruptions by changing what forces drive our society. I think greed driving society maximizes corruption and think we should replace that with something else. Saying all systems can become corrupt doesn’t add anything to the task at hand.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 216d
You're claiming that if capitalism tends to backslide into X, then X is part of capitalism. My point is that every system can backslide into something more primitive where a strong man makes the rules. They're not all the same, so your idea that X is an inevitable part of capitalism is wrong. Capitalism is what we call it when it has a certain set of characteristics. If it no longer has those characteristics it's no longer capitalism.
And you're wrong. There's nothing about capitalism that makes it more corruptible than feudalism or oligarchy. In fact, those systems are much more corrupt in general.
Whereas feudalism doesn't even try to do that. It just skips the positive sum games part and accepts greed. At least with capitalism there's an attempt to make things better.
Maximizes corruption? You think capitalism is more corrupt than a strong man system where everybody is forced to constantly flatter and pay tribute to the strong man? A system where the rules are whatever the strong man says, so bribery is baked into everything?
Sure, let's do it, what do you propose? And how do we get there from here?
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 216d
I mean, that’s such a broad take, any system can change, doesn’t mean it’s inevitable. My point was that the core mechanism of capitalism, which is the private ownership of capital and means of production, will always concentrate wealth and power further and further.
We have had systems of feudalism and monarchies that have stayed steady for hundreds of years. In pre history, people lived in communes for thousands of years.
What is unique about capitalism is that it must move as fast as possible, hence why it can’t stay steady, thereby it changing to late stage is part of the design (as in you can’t have capitalism without it), whereas any other system does not, through its own mechanism, move towards some kind of endgame.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 216d
It also doesn't mean that they're all the same system. So, if capitalism is one of the many systems that can backslide into authoritarianism doesn't mean that authoritarianism is a part of capitalism, despite your claim to the contrary.
Yes, in the modern world things change much more quickly. Technologies didn't change for thousands of years. That meant that the number of people a farmer or a plot of land could feed stayed constant for thousands of years. That meant the maximum size of a city was pretty constant. That dictated the kinds of governments that were stable.
It was technology that has made systems unstable, not capitalism.
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 217d
I sold my 2015 but I kept my 2004. That things fully manual and just keeps going. It's growing things inside and out from being street parked but there's no computers, no fobs, no screens.
I'll invest thousands keeping that thing going until I can bridge the gap to EV. It still gets 35-45 MPG which is better than what's out there anyway, even most hybrids
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 217d
If only they made an all analog EV. Id get one so fast. No GPS, no screens.
Its SO EASY to do. They just refuse.
Guess I can always build my own.
BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 217d
I've been wishing for modular EV parts that can be build it yourself for ages. I've been TOLD that the problem is street legality: parts don't come with a VIN, parts don't assure required safety systems. It would be amazing, but for street driving we'd need a massive shift in the legal system to accommodate them
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 217d
Yet Karen can drive a 9,000 lb deathmobile f750 with a civilian drivers license. Real safe. Makes sense to me.
BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 217d
Of course. Safety systems to keep Karen and her passengers safe. Good luck, everybody else
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 217d
I turn now, good luck everybody!
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 217d
Same, also why I always buy old and used. Thankfully still a lot of low mileage used cars out there, but they're getting more expensive because it's no secret that older stuff works better.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 217d
Yeah, makes me extra angry about yhe government destroying millions of great cars for the "cash for clunkers" debacle. Looking at the list of destroyed cars infuriates me. All for the billionaire car mfgs to bail out because they're products are shit.
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 217d
Enshittification. Heh.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 217d
India and China produce whole fleets of "dumb" cars. Tata Motors is at the forefront of these dirt cheap little modular vehicles. Low cost, cheap to repair, very ergonomic. Virtually impossible to get in the US, though.
The joke of American capitalism is that it needs these enormous trade firewalls to keep rival industrialized nations from bankrupting their domestic industry.
nialv7@lemmy.world · 75 pts · 218d
all your shits will be uploaded to the cloud btw
Lembot_0006@programming.dev · 15 pts · 218d
And then... shit precipitation. Correct?
OpenStars@piefed.social · 8 pts · 218d
dont look up
nialv7@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 218d
Chocolate rain 🎵 🎶
0ops@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 218d
The shit cycle. C'mon people this is grade school Earth science
zurohki@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 217d
A short, sharp shower of, uh, fecal matter.
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 217d
Now I'm picturing that old anti-piracy ad that said "You wouldn't download a car, would you?", but way funnier.
Lucelu2@lemmy.zip · 43 pts · 217d
The AI toilet will not flush if you do not use the "authorized" brand toilet paper.
musubibreakfast@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 217d
You didn't eat the RIFD bran pellets so now your pipes won't take your shit either. Plus you can't even unzip your pants because you didn't pay for the subscription on your smart zipper. Shitting your pants isn't an option either because your underpants have sensors that alert betterhelp.com if you soil yourself. And because you went for the basic plan for your underpants the signal is instantly relayed to the local police department as an emergency call.
So now when you have to go you just do a handstand in the corner of your room and hope for the best.
ExtremeUnicorn@feddit.org · 5 pts · 217d
You know, a few decades ago I've heard people joke about physical media only becoming download codes in the box or cars requiring software updates to drive, so you better believe this is exactly where we're headed.
2deck@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 217d
gosh...
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 217d
And pay a $15 subscription for the poop cloud service.
musubibreakfast@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 217d
I just pay a guy in India to shit for me.
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 217d
Gotta upload that pucker scan for sample ID verification.
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 217d
You probably just inspired Cory Doctorow's next story, Unauthorized toilet paper.
laranis@lemmy.zip · 41 pts · 217d
I plan on maintaining every one of my current appliances until either I die or AI does.
No, I don't want my refrigerator to have a subscription and a connection to the cloud. I want it to keep my shit COLD. TVs are the freaking worst. Just display pixels, bitch. No body is asking more of you.
JamBandFan1996@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 217d
Yeah fuck smart tvs. I've got a lower mid range one that actually has a decent display but probably was the last series to not have any smart features. I'll go back to crt before I get a smart tv I swear
i_am_hiding@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 217d
I went out of my way to find a dumb TV locally for my grandfather and it was literally impossible. He just needs TV channels, but noooo - now every time he turns it on he has to get past a million screens trying to sell him shit or launch Youtube before he can watch the 6 oclock news followed by the football.
JamBandFan1996@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 216d
Yeah, my have similar issues with my Grandma. Problem is she won't ask anyone for advice, she'll go out, buy something way more expensive than she needs with more features and more confusing interfaces than she can handle. Get frustrated with it and not use it, thinks she needs something else, repeat ad nauseam. It's her money, she can do what she wants, but every time she gets something I have to teach her how to use it for her to just forget what I say and end up getting something else. Like Grandma, please let me just buy you an old TV and stereo on eBay that you can actually use and just be happy with it. Getting her to figure out streaming services (by her request) is impossible. She really just needs a classic cd player
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 217d
Emerson 40" is pretty good.
ExtremeUnicorn@feddit.org · 2 pts · 217d
You can get a projector, they’re usually as dumb as they come.
BurgerBaron@piefed.social · 6 pts · 217d
You can still buy new dumb appliances in 2026. Including TV if you go for a business display panel. The stuff McDonalds uses to display menus.
Maintaining old stuff is better really. Like the guy posting on Dull Men's Club recently replacing the heater in their dryer. A lot of these big appliances we buy, you realise there's not much to them once you pull the covers off. Any idiot including myself can do a simple parts swap.
My most recents to inspire others:
I intended to replace dishwasher pump on a 2011 Sears model. Took half an hour. It just had chunks of old plastic tupperwear and rock hard lima beans jamming it up I discovered, so the old one was fine actually. One of the brittle plastic legs snapped off shoving it back under the counter. A chunk of old 2x4 solved that.
I replaced failing blower motor on 2004!! furnace last summer when there's no time pressure or cold weather. Half an hour, it was easy to get to. I bought some extra spare parts from ebay and a spare logic board. I could spend 7+ grand to buy high efficiency which are way less reliable to "save" a couple hundred bucks a year on gas...or do this. The heat exchanger looked fine I check annually.
Roommate and I got a broken snowblower locally for free. Soaked up varnished bad gas. Bought new carb and replaced rotted gas line. 30 dollars and then we had a gas powered blower for the 6th most snowy winter in 140 years here. I don't know much but it's just stinky legos really.
laranis@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 217d
I am inspired. Maybe we need a Lemmy community for this type of stuff. I know dull mens club exists but maybe one more gender neutral.
BurgerBaron@piefed.social · 3 pts · 217d
There's quite a few DIY communities here too already.
I forgot to mention I usually find someone on youtube has made a repair guide for pretty much everything out there if it's common enough.
Oh and there's usually a schematic taped to the underside of the control panel in stuff like dishwashers, dryers, washing machines, etc intended for home repair techs.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 217d
I've seen this claim on and off. I had trouble finding any in the wild the last time I went TV shopping. The handful of "dumb" models I have found (Emerson still has models with built in DVD players, ffs!) tend to be on the smaller side and poorer quality. I've got a living room that would kinda dwarf a 40" set. Shy of going to a projector system (which... eh, mounting those things can be a real pain and all the new ones are also riddled with AI) I was stuck with different flavors of "Smart" TV for anything 60"+
Ended up just wiring my computer to the HDMI and using the PC/web browser as my primary interface for watching anything. That's side-skirted a lot of the AI annoyances. But it's not perfect.
LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 216d
Illegal take but I actually do like smart TVs. Unless you never use any streaming services, it's a useful feature that would otherwise require an external device to do the same thing. Now if you have your own home server or something, that's cool too, but that's more hassle than I want to deal with.
jim3692@discuss.online · 1 pts · 216d
Smart TVs are, for sure, easier to setup, but TV manufacturers are starting to inject their ads to anything that is showing on the TV. Sorry, but I don't want to see any ads while watching a movie, or playing games.
I don't care whether the TV is smart, or not. I will just not connect it to internet, and I'll use it as a monitor. No one is messing with my boss fights!
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 31 pts · 218d
slazer2au@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 218d
All that AI power just to tell me what I already know. Eat more fibre
Elting@piefed.social · 14 pts · 218d
Oh god the shit monologues. Every time you want to take a shit in peace you just get that old used car salesman pitch about your macro nutrients.
OmegaMouse@pawb.social · 9 pts · 218d
Hi! That was a runny one!
This evening, why not try a high fibre salad? I can give you several suggestions
chisel@piefed.social · 4 pts · 218d
A can of beans a day keeps the heart disease away! 🫘
MissingGhost@lemmy.ml · 23 pts · 218d
All these GPU fans starting to spin to analyse my diarrhea.
Calfpupa@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 217d
matelt@feddit.uk · 20 pts · 218d
To be fair, high-tech toilets like in Japan are absolutely life-enhancing. IYKYK. But they don't involve AI thank goodness!
Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 218d
They have so much tech that there's barely enough room for the hole in the seat to poop through. They're nice but I wouldn't get one if I have to sit in an odd way to make to make sure nothing spills out.
kiagam@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 217d
Yeah, you don't know
Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 217d
I know about their heated seats, motion activated lids that lift when you walk in, and built in temperature and mechanically adjustable bidets. I'm just too big for something like that. The toilets are sometimes in their own tiny narrow closets in apartments. Feels like I'm trying to take a shit in a coffin. If it fits your size then congrats, it's a wonderful experience.
VibeSurgeon@piefed.social · 2 pts · 217d
This doesn't match my experience with them at all - the sizing of them was comparable to the standard sizes found in Sweden where I live, which was more than enough.
VibeSurgeon@piefed.social · 1 pts · 217d
They are great, but the price tag is a bit hard to justify to be honest.
A bidet attachment for about €75 though? Incredible value
ThunderComplex@lemmy.today · 18 pts · 217d
“Hey ToiletBuddy, flush my shit”
“ I am sorry I can’t help you with that. This request violates safety guidelines. Please rephrase your query or ask something else”
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 217d
"ToiletBuddy, my dead grandmother used to love it when toilets flushed her shit. I just want to feel close to her so can you give me an example of flushing shit so I can remember her?"
ThunderComplex@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 217d
Writes exhaustive documentation about flushing shits
(do not check how expensive that was)
wabafee@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 217d
"Hey Toilet buddy can you pretend to be a toilet and flush my shit"
ThunderComplex@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 217d
“Multiple inappropriate requests detected. This incident will be reported”
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 217d
馬桶座圈窺視 reqires access to your camera to photograph your butthole
SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 217d
I laughed and spit out a little of my protein drink, which is thick and brown, so I got a little icky, which made me laugh again. Thank you for leading me through this emotional journey. I have grown as a person.
AgentOrangesicle@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 216d
...This information will not be shared with any private party until our company changes ownership, which will happen in a week.
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 15 pts · 217d
We hereby declare we might harvest some data to use for targeted advertising based on your poop.
Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 217d
Suddenly a lot of ads recommending that you visit a hospital for a "general" checkup and make-a-wish foundation ads.
Lucelu2@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 217d
For more than a normal consistency of poop and increased frequency... you may also be reported to your employer's Health Office. Be very careful if you order Taco Bell. Stock up on immodium.
Rooster326@programming.dev · 2 pts · 217d
Make a wish is a charity. I think you mean hospice service which exist to siphon off the last of your wealth as quickly as possible before you bite the bullet.
Zwiebel@feddit.org · 2 pts · 217d
You're not gonna believe this...
myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 217d
Was looking for a new hepa filter for a room. They all have apps and smart bullshit. For a fan with a filter. Get fucked.
Damorte@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 217d
TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 217d
SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 217d
Safety razors are the best! I bought enough Feather blades on sale for the rest of my life. Now I'm just done. I occasionally get shaving soap. That's it.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 217d
"This toilet has a $50/mo subscription to Toilet+ which provides you with a host of analytic services that are accessible through an app on your phone, if you have an iPhone 18 Pro or higher or an Android Prime Plus Ultra."
"I don't have those phones and I don't really need these services. Can I just not purchase the subscription?"
"Yeah, sure. But then the toilet won't flush."
JigglypuffSeenFromAbove@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 217d
"Unfortunately you ran out of credits. Please try again in 3 hours or subscribe to our Pro Plan to continue shitting."
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 5 pts · 217d
Please watch a few advertisements from our sponsors in order to flush.
Bazell@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 217d
The current situation escalation is as next:
vic_rattlehead@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 217d
"I give you happy poopy time!"
merdaverse@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 217d
The toilet analyzes your stool and automatically connects with your smart fridge and amazon account to automatically shop the ideal diet for you.
Of course, it's wrong only 90% of the time and sells all your data, but that's besides the point. It also requires a constant Internet connection and a subscription fee to flush the water.
TheGiantKorean@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 217d
Give the AI instructions to make yum yum noises every time you use the toilet.
apex32@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 217d
Reminds me of a Better Call Saul scene.
OrteilGenou@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 216d
We tailor our AI toilet experience to each individual's taint
The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world · 6 pts · 216d
We call it tAInt
Emi@ani.social · 7 pts · 217d
What if I buy it but gut it to remove the ai shit?
Lucelu2@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 217d
That is a felony.
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 217d
Make sure you share a how-to tutorial with us.
danc4498@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 218d
Just gonna shit in the AI powered hole in the ground.
deadymouse@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 217d
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 217d
I want a stove with knobs
chemicalprophet@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 217d
Just poop there every day
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 217d
Just dig a latrine
comador@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 218d
Siri Voice:
'Okay John, I've made a doctor's appointment for you explaining that your IBS and Gerd are now making you poop too much. I've also sent a picture of your poops. I've also ordered you a Bidet and sent a note to your SO that you're not going out tonight '
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 218d
https://youtu.be/DJklHwoYgBQ
HorikBrun@kbin.earth · 4 pts · 218d
Life Hack: don't plug it in. Ta-Da!
hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 217d
99% of the time this kinda shit is made in a way that it won't work without being plugged in or connected to wi-fi.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 217d
For example, instead of a lever to flush, you get a button. If the software isn't up to date, the button won't work.
ramble81@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 218d
It’s self powered by a turbine with the flow of the water. It either has a built in cell antenna or searches for an open WiFi hotspot.
MotoAsh@piefed.social · 1 pts · 217d
Don't give them ideas.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 217d
I bought a new stove last year. setting a specific timer or temperature not by 5 is to connect it to WiFi and use the app.
want to set a timer for 13 minutes? fuck you.
want to bake something at 372 degrees? fuck you.
I would have sent it back if it weren't literally the only one that met all our needs except for the ones we weren't concerned for.
kungen@feddit.nu · 2 pts · 217d
I agree that it sucks, but curious, what do you bake that needs such precision? (Even if you set it in the app, it'd probably still be ±5 degrees, unless you bought a really special stove)
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 217d
sometimes I bake lab equipment to dry or sanitize it. the materials have very specific thresholds and it's nice to set it and forget it instead of having to babysit it the whole time.
Frankddamee@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 217d
OpenStars@piefed.social · 2 pts · 218d
what if it's a blender tho?
OMG, they are going to start doing this to AI-powered wifi routers, aren't they?! :-(
atropa@piefed.social · 3 pts · 218d
Lucelu2@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 217d
Back to the Land... build an outhouse. Lime, woodash, sawdust -- are pretty cheap. Winters might get you to repurpose a chamber pot to dump in the outhouse during the day. Get one with a good lid.
CaptPretentious@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 218d
Use your neighbors toilet! If it doesn't have a camera or ass-print scanner, it'll really through off the data brokers buying up all your shit data so they can sell ads!
joyjoy@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 216d
Can I buy a bucket?
jim3692@discuss.online · 4 pts · 216d
Our buckets have advanced AI capabilities to provide personalized bucketing experience. Also, you can disable our buckets' ads with just 3.99$/month/user/breath
joyjoy@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 216d
Lotta money for something that will short-circuit the first time I piss on it.
jim3692@discuss.online · 1 pts · 216d
Pissing in the bucket is dangerous for its electronics and may void its warranty. You can buy a 2 year insurance for 50$
conartistpanda@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 216d
Dear god
jim3692@discuss.online · 1 pts · 216d
OH NO!
daggermoon@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 217d
I'll just piss and shit outdoors. I already do the former. I might even piss and/or shit on some random persons grave. Do not play this game with me.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 217d
Setting aside the hygienics, do you have any idea how fucking cold it is outside right now?
MML@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 217d
Believe it or not this largely depends on your location
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 217d
daggermoon@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 216d
I assume you live in the US, same as me. Yes, it is very cold. I'm built different though, -13°C weather won't stop me. I actually like the cold.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 216d
daggermoon@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 216d
Deadass, I like the cold.
wabasso@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 217d
Can you at least use the AI toilets on the shelves in the stores?
daggermoon@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 216d
If you're brave enough, I don't see why not.
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 216d
Buy the toilet. Refuse the subscription. Box up your waste and mail it to the company.
hamid@crazypeople.online · 3 pts · 217d
I for one would be happy to forego the amazon rainforest so that my toilet can create me a custom up to the minute symphony based on the noises of my bowel movements
yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 216d
I'd purchase one if it 100% reliably cleaned both me and itself after use, without any (further) user interaction.
kali_fornication@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 218d
Nothing is more based than walking into a Home Depot and shitting in one of the toilets
glitchdx@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 218d
please don't actually do that. The hourly
wage slavesemployees don't deserve to have to clean that up. Most of them are struggling to pay rent just like you and me.There's better ways to rebel against capitalism but my lawyer advises me not to talk about that.
First_Thunder@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 217d
Wait. If you have lawyer-> you are rich-> you are a filthy capitalist-… wait hold on, layer is calling. Uh huh, yes… no, but… yes, yes… ok. He’s telling me not to talk about this
hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -1 pts · 217d
can we not trivialize slavery when there's actual slavery still happening?
MotoAsh@piefed.social · 3 pts · 217d
They're both forms of actual slavery.
hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 217d
Would you like to tell me what that word means?
MotoAsh@piefed.social · 4 pts · 217d
Would you like to look up the term, "wage slavery"?
In many respects, being a straight up slave can be better than wage slavery. No pretense of expecting any freedom. No worry about if you'll have a place to sleep or food to eat. No need to worry about, "what the hell am I going to do if I'm out on the street?"
No, this isn't to say any kind of slavery is acceptable. It's to point out that one can be enslaved in more than one way. It is, in fact, slavery of a different sort.
Or are you dumb enough to say indentured servitude isn't also slavery because there's a different term for it?
Frankddamee@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 217d
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · 1 pts · 217d
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 217d
To be COMPLETELY fair, those are french toilets; "regular" toilet is not defined as the common toilet type depends on where you live.
Here is a Turkish toilet.
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 217d
That’s just a hole in the floor