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protist@mander.xyz · 166 pts · 165d (38 replies)

There are thousands of wasp species and the overwhelming majority don't even have the ability to sting humans. You probably don't ever even notice them, despite being the most important group of pollinators in the world, because you might mistake them for bees or flies. Also, bees are wasps (and so are ants). For more wasp facts, please like and subscribe.

konalt@lemmy.world · 302 pts · 165d (4 replies)

FreshLight@sh.itjust.works · 54 pts · 165d (2 replies)

This is the only correct reply. In case you do not already have the tick version, here you go:

Hoimo@ani.social · 21 pts · 165d

This fucker coined the phrase "touch grass"

ContriteErudite@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 165d

Love it! Do you have one that comes in Spider? Or perhaps House Centipede?

purrtastic@lemmy.nz · 9 pts · 165d

Oh that’s brilliant

avg@lemmy.zip · 46 pts · 165d (8 replies)

Whenever you see posts like this assume that the op is referencing yellow jacket waps, after I started gardening ive learned more about wasps and their part to play in my garden, yellow jacks can suck a dick though. They can go from 0 to 100 real quick and little provocation, I will choose to protect my kids over them.

Maiq@piefed.social · 23 pts · 165d (2 replies)

Paper wasps are complete dicks too but I hold a specific grudge for bald faced hornets!

avg@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 165d (1 reply)

I honestly feel like I'd have a hard time telling them apart, I already have a hard time telling european bees from yellow jackets.

Maiq@piefed.social · 3 pts · 165d

Paper wasps are the ones with the long dangly legs. Bald faced hornets are larger and black and white.

brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 165d (2 replies)

yellow jacks can suck a dick though

I already liked wasps before, you don't have to sell to me. Different topic though: How do you make them do that?

caseyweederman@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 164d (1 reply)

You have to have a really small dick.

brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 164d

As I said, I was already sold.

Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 165d

California's Oxnard High School team/mascot is the Yellow Jackets. Admittedly they are badass motherfuckers, but it's a little weird in cheering because most traditional cheers assume two syllables and you wind up yelling "Go Jackets!" like some kind of radical haberdashery

Fmstrat@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 164d

Except comment op is wrong. Probably ChatGPT nonsense. Bees, wasps and ants are of the same family, but bees are not wasps.

almost1337@lemmy.zip · 40 pts · 165d

When you squash a wasp it releases a chemical from the wasp that attracts people who tell you facts about wasps.

ChicoSuave@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 165d (1 reply)

AWAB

Whostosay@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 165d

For real. Who the fuck

RavingGrob@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 23 pts · 165d (10 replies)

While Ants, Bees, Wasps and Hornets are all in the family Hymenoptera, it is incredibly wrong to suggest that Bees and Ants are Wasps.

They are distinct species that are related to each other.

Sincerely — a pest control technician who is incredibly tired of helping solve "bee" problems, when 99% of the time, they have a Wasp problem.

brachypelmide@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 165d (6 replies)

Yup! Was about to type out a similar reply. To further clarify:

Hymenoptera - order of Insecta - ants, bees, wasps, hornets
Aculeata - infraorder of Hymenoptera - bees, wasps, hornets
Apidae - family of Aculeata - bees (also bumblebees)
Vespidae - family of Aculeata - wasps, hornets Formicidae - family of Hymenoptera - ants

edit20260227: forgot ants belong to aculeata

HeavenlySpoon@ttrpg.network · -2 pts · 165d (5 replies)

Except many non-Vespidae, both living and extinct, would readily be considered wasps. Look at this thing and tell me it’s not a wasp: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Eusapvertic.jpg If that’s a wasp and a yellow-jacket is a wasp, then so are ants and bees, in the same way that we are apes and birds are dinosaurs. You wouldn’t call a zoo to deal with a loose human and you wouldn’t call dr. Grant to deal with a pigeon, but biologically it makes a lot more sense to deal with ancestry then with how a species interacts with humans.

LwL@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 164d (1 reply)

You can't argue "this looks like a wasp so it is a wasp" and then extend from that to "and because of evolutionary history, all these other things that don't look like wasps are also wasps"

Defining groups of species with a common word is always going to be ambiguous, but you need to stay consistent in what you use to define it. By the same logic you can argue that humans are fish, because whales clearly are fish if you just look at them, and whales and humans are both mammals.

HeavenlySpoon@ttrpg.network · 0 pts · 164d

Sure, but I was responding to someone who was defining wasp (the common word) based on clade (using scientific words).

I’m fine with common parlance words for things. What I had issue with was arbitrarily restricting the definition of wasp to a specific clade, which would exclude ants and bees, and also a whole host of at the very least wasp-adjacent animals which would now be stuck with no real way to describe them.

(Also, yes, fish is a rubbish scientific word. We’re far closer cousins of salmon than sharks are. By any reasonable definition of fish, at least biologically, we are fish. You could redefine “fish” in the same way we define “tree”, i.e. based on structure and not on ancestry, but by that definition whales should still be fish. The word “fish” shouldn’t be allowed within 50 metres of cladistics.)

brachypelmide@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 164d (2 replies)

If that’s a wasp and a yellow-jacket is a wasp, then so are ants and bees,

That logic doesn't check out, given Sapygidae is a family of sapygid wasps belonging to the Aculeata infraorder.

Aculeata is named after its defining feature, which is the modification of the ovipositor into a stinger. This trait doesn't strictly constitute a wasp, which is why they have their own families (Vespidae, Sapygidae, Pompilidae, Myrmosidae, basically all of the Chrysidoidea superfamily, etc.).

All wasps are aculeate, but not all aculeates are wasps.

HeavenlySpoon@ttrpg.network · 0 pts · 164d (1 reply)

Just to confirm, you don’t think of jewel wasps, spider wasps, sand wasps, and flower wasps as wasps, since they’re not part of the Vespidae, correct?

I’ve mostly seen wasps defined as basically “Apocrita but not the ones we don’t think count as wasps because there’s too many of them, specifically bees and ants.” Which leads to the same weird reasoning that would somehow make legless lizards lizards, but not snakes. I’ve seen velvet ants referred to as wasps, but not ants, even though true ants are far closer cousins to Vespidae. That just isn’t a viable scientific definition. I’m glad we’ve mostly moved on to grouping avian dinosaurs among the dinosaurs, but it feels like a lot of similar groupings are still lagging.

I’m willing to accept Vespidae as a synonym of wasps, but that excludes a ton of wasps. It also erases the very wasp-like nature of ant ancestors, which is what makes cladistics so fascinating. So why not just open it up to include all Apocrita and be done with it?

I’m also fine with a morphological definition of wasps, like how “tree” isn’t based on ancestry but on structure, but you were the one pulling in the scientific names.

brachypelmide@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 164d

Just to confirm, you don’t think of jewel wasps, spider wasps, sand wasps, and flower wasps as wasps, since they’re not part of the Vespidae, correct?

Negative, those are all considered wasps alongside Vespidae. I said "that logic doesn't check out" because what you had essentially said in that previous reply was "if wasp==wasp and wasp==wasp, then so are ants and bees", which is.. well.. false.

It also erases the very wasp-like nature of ant ancestors

That ancestry is pretty much expressed in Formicidae belonging to the Aculeata infraorder, though I do agree that putting them under some sort of vespid superfamily would be even more fitting, since ants pretty much did evolve from wasps.

RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 165d (1 reply)

Why does it matter if you're called for a bee problem, but it's wasps? And wouldn't actual bee problems require a Bee Keeper?

RavingGrob@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 165d

Most of the time: it's more about the fact that bees are typically harmless, and calling a bee a wasp, to me, is like calling Starry, Pepsi, because they're both made by PepsiCo.

And yes, honeybees are a protected species here, meaning we'd need an apiarist to either remove the hive and capture the swarm, or officially tell us that the hive is too large to safely remove, without destroying the home.

ulterno@programming.dev · 0 pts · 164d

Yeah, because otherwise by the above logic, one could also say, "bees are humans (and so are eels)", because they all belong to the Animalia kingdom.

Oh even better, "bees are Uranus (and so are sedimentary rocks)", because all are nouns.

titanicx@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 165d (5 replies)

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deacon@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 165d (1 reply)

Unidan?

dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 165d

You dare name one of the ancients? Specifically the Jackdaw?

Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 165d

In my experience, even the stingy ones aren't that aggressive. They get pissed if you attack them or their hive and can panick if they get stuck in hair or clothes. I usually just (slowly and gently) "push" them away with my hand if they get too close, like at 10cm/s. They usually give up and move on if they were trying to check me out, or continue on if they were passing by too close. If they are trying to get at my food or drink, they might be a bit more persistant about it, but I haven't had one get aggressive because of it.

That said, I had an ex that bugs just seemed to hate/love. Apparently house flies can bite (though I still have a feeling that she was bit by a different fly that looks like a house fly, but can't say for sure because I did see her getting harassed by bugs that just ignored me). So ymmv.

MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works · 70 pts · 165d (11 replies)

Asian Giant Hornet: I am death destroyer of worlds.
Me: Weeping uncontrollably

floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 39 pts · 165d (3 replies)

Jesus that's almost going from swatting to a fist fight

egrets@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 165d (2 replies)

They're big for sure, but there's some forced perspective in that photo. They're typically substantially smaller than your little finger.

MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 165d (1 reply)

Yeah it is a majorly warped perspective, look at the size of the thumb.

Still they are big girls, here's a photo and wiki says...

The hornet has a body length of 45 mm (1+3⁄4 in), a wingspan around 75 mm (3 in), and a stinger 6 mm (1⁄4 in) long, which injects a large amount of potent venom.

Asian giant hornet

Kn1ghtDigital@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 165d

TWO INCHES IS BIG ENOUGH FOR THE HIGH YIELD EXPLOSIVES

ToffeeIsForClosers@piefed.ca · 24 pts · 165d

That person would totally win in a thumb war. Don’t even try

rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 165d (4 replies)

Ugh, i saw one of those fuckers buzzing about in south of England. Sounded like a mini military helicopter buzzing about looking for bees to fuck up.

Reported it

egrets@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 165d (3 replies)

Reported it

The Neighbourhood Watch will get it sorted!

(I kid -- for the unaware reader, they're invasive, they threaten native bees, and you can report sightings to the government).

RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 165d

They look like they threaten native everything.

Maiq@piefed.social · 2 pts · 165d

Is the neighborhood watch where I report thieving kids and crusty jugglers?

_Cid_@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 164d

I had to google it because having those guys here would be super scary. But it seems like like Asian Hornets are invasive in Europe, which are already big. The picture shows an Asian Giant Hornet, which are even bigger.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 165d

JFC, it would take a shotgun to bring that monster down.

fireweed@lemmy.world · 52 pts · 165d

Every non-aggressive wasp species:

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 49 pts · 165d (1 reply)

I once bought a house with two mature, fruiting pear trees. I learned to quickly pick up any pears that fell to the ground, because if I didn't, the pear juice would ferment under the skin, and become slightly alcoholic.

Then wasps would pierce the skin, drink the juice, get drunk, and then chase around anyone who entered the yard. Apparently wasps are mean drunks.

Didn't know that previously, but not surprised. Wasps are dickheads on a good day.

SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 18 pts · 165d

The less popular bee movie part 2; it's actually about wasps, who are asshole alcoholics, and instead of asking girls if they like the jazz, they start negging and groping them

Broadfern@lemmy.world · 49 pts · 165d (6 replies)

Not wasps, but yellowjackets specifically. Irrational anger with wings, little bastards.

Love me some chill time with a mud dauber though.

starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 165d

Yeah I learned that besides yellow jackets, wasps can actually help a garden by keeping away pests and won't hurt anybody if you don't bother them. Really surprising seeing a wasp just totally ignore me.

sadie_sorceress@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 165d (1 reply)

We get yellow jackets in our yard every summer and I used to destroy them all on sight but I always felt so bad about taking out entire families with chemical warfare so I've switched to a live and let live strategy the last few years. They are chill and we've only had one sting in those years and I think that was just an unfortunate accident with my youngest stepping on one and pissing it off. I still have several cans of spray so if they break the treaty then I'm ready to go to war, but for now we're able to cohabitate.

Klanky@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 165d

Some made a nest in our gravel driveway a few years ago and were eating from the fig tree in our front yard. I borrowed a shop vac, put soapy water in it and then laid the nozzle next to the hole for an entire day. After I stopped seeing any I got boiling soapy water and poured it down the hole several times and what was left of the nest (and queen) came out. So many dead Yellowjackets!

jack_of_sandwich@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 165d

We had yellow jackets find a whole in the wall, and dig in and burrow out the drywall. Just a thin layer of paper between them and our bedroom. Luckily noticed and got the nest cleared out before they made it inside the house

Ajen@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 164d

And it's too easy to confuse them with paper wasps, which normally aren't aggressive.

Illogicalbit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 165d

This. I have no problem with anything but the yellow jackets. Over the years, dog has been stung, I have been stung and my wife has been stung. All of us minding our own business and just got too “close.” I will burn those f@&)ers to the ground every chance I get.

OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works · 45 pts · 165d (10 replies)

Many wasp species are generally non-aggressive, and great pollinators! If they don't fuck with you, then don't fuck with them!

RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 165d (1 reply)

Yep, surprisingly some of the biggest like the “Cicada Killer” and Bald Faced Hornets (as long as you’re not messing with their nest) are very chill around humans as long as you don’t mess with them. Yellowjackets OTOH can get fucked. Fearless and they’ll chase you in numbers if you even just step by the nest or go by it with a mower.

dewritoninja@pawb.social · 6 pts · 165d

Iirc even the tarantula hawk is very chill and reluctant to sting people. I remember a video by coyote Peterson got stung on purpose and really had to annoy the wasp to get stung.

NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 165d

I agree! The mud daubers and digger wasps can look quite scary with their nipped waists, but they are quite docile. I have a bird bath, and when it’s empty they sit on the edge patiently while I fill it, then gently crawl into the periphery. They have never bothered me in the slightest

sleepmode@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 165d (2 replies)

There’s a few that hang around my yard. They gobble up annoying pests and there’s one that seems to visit me deliberately. We hang out for a bit and then she goes off to her duties.

Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 164d (1 reply)

The ones in our yard eat all our pears, the cunts

Ourst@lemmy.sdf.org · 7 pts · 164d

Lemon Pear stealing whore

Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 164d (2 replies)

I think wasp get angry in autumn due to low sugar in diet which I think we can all relate.

Ourst@lemmy.sdf.org · 6 pts · 164d

Someone get them a snickers.

BanMe@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 164d

Wasps go through two dietary phases, one where they eat sugar (usually first part of the year) and second where they eat protein (usually second half) and then there's - well 99% of wasps die every year, nature starves them to death, nature is brutal.

militaryintelligence@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 165d

Those red ones can eat my wasp spray

Asafum@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 165d (2 replies)

Mr.Gardener or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Wasp.

I'm irrationally fearful of wasps, like I absolutely freak out when one is near me, but I learned they eat some of the annoying fuckers that ruin my vegetables/lettuce so I learned to tolerate them lol

sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 24 pts · 165d (1 reply)

Nah fuck em

-this comment came from 🤌🤙Spider Gang👌👈

Kn1ghtDigital@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 165d

Fuck yeah, spiders 😎

BottleCaptain@feddit.nl · 19 pts · 165d (1 reply)

Bumble bee? More like stumble bee.

militaryintelligence@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 165d

Lolol amirite guys? Guys

JuliaSuraez@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 165d

The bumble bee part is so accurate. They’re basically the golden retrievers of the insect world—super fuzzy, very friendly, and zero motor skills.

mkhopper@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 165d (5 replies)

And then the first time you see a cicada wasp...
The sight of one of those will make you want to find a brick to drop on it, until you find out that they're completely harmless. (unless you're a cicada)

ToastedRavioli@midwest.social · 1 pts · 165d (4 replies)

Ive never heard it called a cicada wasp. Where Im from we just call them cicadas. Theyre more like a big ass grasshopper than a wasp

Slatlun@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 165d (3 replies)

Cicada wasps are a cicada predator. In a totally normal wasp behavior they paralyze a cicada and leave it for their larva to eat.

ToastedRavioli@midwest.social · 2 pts · 165d (2 replies)

That makes way more sense

possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 165d (1 reply)

This little godfucker of a wasp is the Eastern Cicada Killer. It'll make you want to both run and hide, but yeah, completely chill towards people. The first time I saw one was in Kentucky- it was horrifying but we did a lil catch and release and it was all good from there.

ToastedRavioli@midwest.social · 2 pts · 164d

I actually have had one of those in my mouth before unfortunately. I didnt know thats what it was.

I was barbecuing at a cabin in Shenandoah and it flew into my Mikes Hard Lemonade without me noticing. When I took a swig I had what felt like a large piece of wet carpet in my mouth, and then that fuckin thing was the result. Thankfully, he was extremely intoxicated from his swim and could hardly move let alone sting my mouth out of self defense or anything. I ended up mercy killing it on the assumption that being submerged in alcohol for a while had messed him up pretty badly

KenOh@feddit.online · 17 pts · 165d (4 replies)

What I want to know is if the bumble bee is called that because of the word bumble, or if the word bumble got that meaning because of the bee......ok, so a visit to wiktionary tells me the word bumble came first, then was applied to the bee.

EDIT: Wait, it may be the other way around. bumblebee came from humbul-be and merged with Middle English bombeln humble meaning to buzz. Man, I still don't really even know.

Gerblat@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 165d (2 replies)

Honey, wake up, a new question just dropped:

Which came first, the bumble or the bee?

KenOh@feddit.online · 10 pts · 165d (1 reply)

Honey

Very good.

Gerblat@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 165d

Imma bee honest, that was totally unintended haha

egrets@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 165d

came from humbul-be and merged with Middle English bombeln

As you've said, in both senses it's related to the sound they make. "Bumble" on its own, in the sense of clumsy, meandering movement, is probably unrelated but I guess it's plausible that it also had an influence on the mutation of "humbul" to "bumble" even if the latter was primarily about the noise.

doingthestuff@lemy.lol · 14 pts · 165d

Carpenter bees: don't worry about these little holes in your wood framing, I'm justdestroying your home.

Me: back at you!

Dadifer@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 165d

Wasps are the F-16s of the bee world.

Urist@leminal.space · 11 pts · 164d (2 replies)

My local wasps don't bother me and I don't bother them. Long as you aren't close to the nest, most wasps are chill.

chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 164d (1 reply)

Wasps like feeding on our front door bush. My sister is terrified of them. I ignore them, they ignore me.

FelixCress@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 158d

they ignore me

Until they don't.

LoremIpsumGenerator@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 164d

*Mason bee gets headache and sees numbers

Mason bee: the numbers, arrrgghhh what do they mean?