Microsoft says Copilot is for entertainment purposes only, not serious use — firm pushing AI hard to consumers and businesses tells users not to rely on it for important advice
https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/microsoft-says-copilot-is-for-entertainment-purposes-only-not-serious-use-firm-pushing-ai-hard-to-consumers-tells-users-not-to-rely-on-it-for-important-advice
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jinni@lemmy.world · 167 pts · 126d
tourist@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 126d
Standard fart operating procedure
PlantJam@lemmy.world · 126 pts · 126d
A salesman for an AI consulting company made the comment that we don't expect perfection from humans, so why should we expect it from AI? He was smug about it, too, like it was his big gotcha. Joke's on him, I'm the one that talked the bosses out of spending money with them.
i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca · 67 pts · 126d
“Is your AI accountable for mistakes? All these idiots are…”
RidcullyTheBrown@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 126d
That's such a bad argument too. The whole point of technology is to help perfect the output of humans. Why would we buy technology that is known to not do that
PlantJam@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 126d
"You can get pretty good results most of the time and save money on labor!" Not like our whole business model is focused on expertise and compliance or anything. Surely our clients won't mind a few little mistakes here and there, as a treat.
RidcullyTheBrown@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 126d
The neat part is that we can't even claim that they're little mistakes or that there's few of them.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 126d
If we can't expect better from an AI than from a human, why should we use the AI (other than so you don't have to pay workers)?
RidcullyTheBrown@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 126d
I think there's an important semantic difference between worse performance and correctness. Tools, like AI, can underperform when compared to humans and still be very useful and worth investing into, but that's only as long as they perform correctly.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 126d
Yeah, the 'but' is the entire problem. In my experience, LLM chatbots are like if you made a 12yo a junior admin and fed them speed. Very quick to give you a confident answer, but wrong more often than not. The worst part is a lot of what I'm doing is coding, and it gets basic commands and syntax wrong
Bwaz@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 126d
Like there's a big shortage of unemployed humans
Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 126d
Unless you plan on enslaving them, please refer to my previous comment RE: paying humans.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 124d
RE?
Is it Weskin time yet? That would certainly solve unemployment.
andallthat@lemmy.world · 70 pts · 126d
If it works, it's thanks to us. If it doesn't, it's your fault.
falynns@lemmy.world · 69 pts · 126d
Ah, the famous "Fox News" defense of claiming you're an entertainment medium but you should totally trust it.
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org · 44 pts · 126d
Reminds me of these Autopiloting cars LOL
They, do it all by themselves, fully and autonomously and are pushed so hard as well, but you may not rely on them, never take them for serious.
mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 126d
and didn't tusla recently discontinue the whole thing
kokesh@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 126d
For entertainment in Excel...
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 126d
There are some real sickos out there man
kambusha@sh.itjust.works · 39 pts · 126d
Just like Fox news
ArtVandelay@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 126d
That was my first thought, they're using the Fox News legal defense
grue@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 126d
What regulatory capture of the FTC does to MFer.
All this shit should be considered false advertising, at the very least.
bpinyon@lemmy.zip · 31 pts · 126d
Then why are they promoting it, in a pizza ad, as letting CoPilot handle the spreadsheets. Do they not trust their own product!?
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 126d
They want your money, not your lawsuits.
thal3s@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 126d
My favorite part of that ad was that it was just “magic.”
He plugged in existing numbers and it generated some charts and there’s a line out the door!
Did AI renegotiate supplier agreements? Did it find a way to advertise in a new way? Ha, ha! Who’s to say, just use it why don’t cha??
reksas@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 124d
its same mentality as drug supplier avoiding to get high on his own suppily.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 126d
Are you not entertained?!
9point6@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 126d
Yes, that's why it's in Office
Ghostie@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 126d
JordanZ@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 126d
lath@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 126d
Trillion dollar investments, dishing out private nuclear power plants, redistributing water allocation nationwide, using it in every level of every structure of society and it's just for entertainment.
Anyone tell the politicians they bent over like hand worn muppets for a gag or do you think they already know and simply enjoy being treated for the fools that they are?
shweddy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 126d
they already know, the money acts as lube
Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 126d
You're assuming they aren't willingly participating in screwing over the constituents to line their pockets or g to give lucrative contracts to their friends
Rentlar@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 126d
Proposed revision: Do not use Copilot for business purposes.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 126d
But also don't look at our advertisements.
themurphy@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 126d
It's almost like it's only a data harvesting tool. Why tf should they implement it everywhere for free?
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub · 12 pts · 125d
(to Microsoft) So, you won't be using your ai for vibecoding your updates anymore, right? ...Right?
..checking Microsoft's status page..
I guess Microsoft didn't get the memo they released, then...
Teppa@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 125d
I dont know about anyone else but basic things like windows search, windows update, excel, etc.. has always been buggy. I always find it strange people saying this is a new phenomenon, I actually think most things regressed from XP outside of UAC.
slavpi@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 125d
So true...
BillCheddar@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 126d
Oh lord, I might get fired for doing this, but I smell a company-wide email about Copilot Monday morning.
InfiniteHench@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 126d
Surprise twist: I don’t and won’t rely on it for jack shit
nosuchanon@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 126d
Theo whole OS is garbage. Used to be at least functional, now it’s an ad infested AI slop fest.
PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 126d
Someone finally listend to their lawyers
No1@aussie.zone · 10 pts · 126d
Copilot: the Fox News of AI
CosmoNova@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 126d
In other words: Snake oil salesman back paddles after the ice he‘s standing on got very thin.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 126d
I think you were trying to say "backpedals."
dustyData@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 126d
Well, that's if they were on a bicycle, but they're standing on a paddle board over the ice. Why would they stand on a bicycle? that doesn't make sense. Neither does a paddle board on ice, but I already lost track of what the metaphor was about.
melroy@kbin.melroy.org · 8 pts · 126d
So it's not called Microsoft 365 copilot anymore then? Since that is fully focused for business and not for entertainment. Make up your fking mind Microsoft
AppropriateLynx457@lemmy.wtf · 3 pts · 126d
Entertainment 365.
Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 126d
Sounds like a sex bot that can also juggle.
melfie@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 126d
I can see where an AI that fucks everything up all the time might be entertaining like a good slapstick comedy, but nah, Resident Evil Requiem is sufficient entertainment for now.
sonofearth@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 126d
vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 126d
Naw, they’re tenuously connected aside from some specific moments and characters across the franchise.
Story wise it’s all pulp horror/scifi. If you want to play the highlights, the remakes of part 2 and 4 from the 2010’s are fantastic games and each stand on their own. 7 & 8 are a more modern style and really good straight horror experiences but not necessary to enjoy Requiem. The other entires can be rough as they were created with various elements of game design and language we’ve moved past and improved on since.
Resident Evil Characters wiki page can be a fun read for a little more context but not an absolute need.
Alternately if you want to get caught up without a 100 hour investment in play time, Noah Caldwell-Gervais does great long form essays on video game series’ and his resident evil one will get you up to speed for requiem in significantly less time.
I started playing them on original PlayStation release and have enjoyed them all for different reasons. The story is a hodgepodge of 30 years of writers and artists building a world that is both overly complex and charmingly simple. Each release can be seen as a reflection of the world it was created in and the horror and espionage tropes of the time. At the end of the day though, it is a very silly series that understands the ridiculousness of its characters and world and strikes a great balance between that and being genuinely scary.
village604@adultswim.fan · 2 pts · 125d
Nope, my wife and I watched a stream and I'm only vaguely aware of the plots of the other games. It didn't take away from anything, and my wife clueing me in on the references really didn't add much of value to the experience.
Fredselfish@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 126d
Then how come my company just roll this shit out for work? Allstate just walk us through how us co pilot to type our emails. And to use it for note taking.
cley_faye@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 126d
Because in the end, you, the person that is forced to use various AI chatbot/agent/model/whatever, will be held responsible for anything that happens after one of the 3000 decisions they imposed you to make with no way to check everything turns out to cause the slightest problem. When that happens, YOU were supposed to know that NOTHING the AI tells/says/do is to be expected correct, so it's your responsibility if something's gone wrong.
Fredselfish@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 126d
Already told them I refuse to let AI write my emails or make my notes. Fuck that noise.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 126d
Meanwhile, watching the NCAA game yesterday I watched multiple commercials from Microsoft stating copilot as something to use in your daily work place and work flow. And I didn't see any disclaimer that AI was for entertaining purposes only and that they weren't liable for killing your business.
BouteilleBrune@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 126d
Where I live, high ranking bank employees are required to use it for serious use and important advice.
Twist the reality all you want, copilot manages my whole life.
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 124d
How does it feel to put you life into the hands of a dysfunctional black box?
BouteilleBrune@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 121d
it feels like my hole whole country's government, communications, health system, etc. can be shut down any time by stupid tech bros
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 126d
That's complete and utter bullshit. Either stand behind your product or don't ship it universally. Pick a lane. Either it's worth using it or isn't, so which is it?
This wishy washy bullshit paints a picture of an embarrassingly inept organization, is that really what you're trying to project Microsoft?
bender223@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 126d
then y the fuck is it prominently showing on the front page of office.com?!
Strider@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 124d
I want to get off Mr. Bones Wild Ride.
fogetaboutit@programming.dev · 6 pts · 126d
fuck you mean, youre pushing ai as if its usable on every corner of the OS, and NOW you announced it to be unreliable?
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 126d
they probably had Copilot write the new TOS that included this line and since nobody who uses AI reads the final output, nobody caught it.
they never expected consumers to actually read the TOS.
GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca · 5 pts · 126d
First entertainment purposes only is corporate language for gives the wrong answers and don't want to lose the lawsuit if we tell people to trust it. Just like Fox News.
Lumisal@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 126d
So it's Microslop's Rule 34?
rumba@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 125d
I do a few things at work that I use AI for. Work had a gpt enterprise key, now we've moved to claude. Through O365, I also have access to copilot.
Pretty much anything I ask claude or gpt about, I can be sure to get a solid answer or one that was at least on Stack Exchange or Reddit. If that fails, and I drill down a little more on a problem, adding details, they'll both get a little better after a couple of questions and usually come up with a reasonable answer.
Not copilot. If you ask copilot something and it doesn't come back in one shot with an authoritative cited answer, just walk away. It makes no attempt to ensure the answer is right or sane. It either hit in training or it didn't. And if it didn't, trying to convince it to strike out in a few other directions to solve it is absolutely a fool's errand.
It's like they bought into OpenAI, then never got any updates or made any progress. I
qaz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 124d
I think they have access to the same models as OpenAI but choose to use smaller models to achieve higher margins / manage costs when people are using it all day long.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 4 pts · 126d
No worried, I don't have that junk on my Linux system anyways.
TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 126d
Hmm, this thing is on my work laptop…
Venator@lemmy.nz · 3 pts · 126d
that must mean outlook is for entertainment purposes only too, since it includes copilot now...
AppropriateLynx457@lemmy.wtf · 3 pts · 126d
The name MSN Copilot makes sense.
HollowedFleshwalker@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 124d
IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 124d
Cue, not queue
/petpeeve
Bytemeister@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 124d
Could be either, if there was other music playing first...
HollowedFleshwalker@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 123d
bender223@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 126d
incompetent man babies. can't even own up to their fuck ups a like a real man.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 124d
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 125d