I hate that I still have to use Chrome because it can do some streaming stuff better than Firefox (and even Chromium for some reason). I only use it to connect to one KVM.
Do the streaming issues resolve themselves ✨magically✨ when faking the user agent to be Chrome for those streaming sites, e.g. using Firefox and a user agent add-on?
Pretty sure Firefox added support for HEVC a while back, but it relies on the system to provide the decoder (Which you'll usually have to pay extra for)
Firefox also supports MKV files now, which is nice.
Funny thing is, the WebM format is actually a constrained profile of MKV, and Firefox strictly enforced those compatibility checks. Chrome never did though, so it could always support MKV files but only if you lied and claimed they were WebM.
Edit: Lemmy eats the highlight in the link, look for "Matroska" under "Web Platform"
When I need to use Chrome, I just use the Chrome Mask extension in Firefox to change my user agent. I haven’t had a site that actually failed to work on the Gecko engine instead of Chromium. It’s just lazy devs checking your user agent to see if you’re using Chromium, and then throwing a fit if you’re not.
Chrome Mask even has a built in site reporter, because broken sites don’t actually conform to modern web interoperability requirements. If it fails to work on Gecko, there’s a good chance that it will also fail to work on other platforms (like Apple’s WebKit) as well. And the reports go to the team that develops Firefox, so they can figure out why the site is refusing to work on Gecko.
Vivaldi is a great Chromium browser. I'm more of a Firefox/Librewolf on my personal machines, but my work's software has a few features that only work with Chromium extensions so I had to use it. Was my preferred alternative to all others, while bloated it was highly controllable and didn't focus on unnecessary features like Brave or others. My work recently banned any browser that isn't Chrome/Edge/Firefox though, so I guess I'm back to Firefox and will ignore the features I can't use
same i abandoned as soon as they said they were going to slow the browser/computer down for people using private mode. oh and it has no adblock that is good as ublock origin.
Software updates have gotten so fucked up in general these days.
It's so rare that changelogs are published to actually educate the end user about what an update will do. Most of the time it's just "Bug fixes and feature updates" with no further detail. What bugs? What features? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Then you update (or, more likely, you left auto-update on) because they guilt you into thinking that you'll immediately fall victim to a zero-day vulnerability if you don't. And suddenly everything just gets slightly worse and worse.
It should be more accepted to follow the mentality of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" with software, precluding the need to install new updates unless something stops working or there is a vulnerability to patch. On my phone at least, I have auto updates turned off and will generally let audience consensus determine if it's something I want. But it's still a coin toss if I decide to take an update, because no one bothers to tell you what they really do anymore.
Fun fact: when releasing apps on Google Play, you are basically forced to give a proper summary about what the update contains and Google threatens your developer account if you fail to do so. If you want some sour chuckles, check the "what's new" of YouTube or Google Play itself.
Everyone who still uses chrome after this insane breach of trust (if there was any before) should seriously think about why he enjoys corporate boot on his neck that much.
It's our thankless task to try to educate and convince our less savvy friends.
Sadly, in my experience, it's useless. They usually think you're the weird one. Especially nowadays in the "AI" era. Whenever I talk negatively about it I get weird looks. People love their corpo slop.
We are the weird ones. But the only thing that changes people mind is in-group pressure. If people trust you, they'll at least humor you. Plant those seeds.
I keep thinking back to to the tweens when crypto miners would infect computers. IMO same strategy. Why buy the compute (Data Centers) when you can crowdsource it?
Leopards are those entities that openly boast about eating your face. It's not the case with Google. Your average non-IT-savy person knows almost nothing about their shenanigans
For some people, sure - actively choosing chrome despite knowing the kind of company Google has become is silly
But then I think about the people who have chrome pre-installed on their phones, with no ability to remove it. Despite using a different browser, they still got burned by this.
I do believe lemmings have a higher tech literacy than the average internet user, but I also believe tech literacy shouldn't be a requirement to hide from ai.
The people who boast about using chrome and insist other browsers are trash absolutely had their faces eaten... But the people who did their best to avoid chrome did not
Internet Explorer is still used by the Windows OS quite frequently. So depending on your definition of "supported" it still kind of is. Plus the internet hasn't changed all that much, so most websites will work with any web browser regardless of age.
Fun fact, if you're a .NET developer, you can actually still use IE. The browser control on winforms is just IE. Those old .NET framework versions will never die so neither will IE.
A while back, I was actually okay with MS being semi forcible about Windows Update.
Most people overestimate their antivirus, and don’t realize that frequent updates are generally the most important way of keeping their system safe. And, to avoid turning computers into zombies for botnets, to keep the whole internet safe. Windows is the world’s most popular OS - it’s good for the world to keep systems secure.
And then MS had the gall to betray that responsibility of only shipping critical security patches by forceful methods. They started forcing people to Windows 11, pushing Edge back in as their browser, pushing popups and Start menu changes, and so on. For a thousand reasons, Windows Update has more notoriety in common with malware than the malware it’s meant to protect you from.
I have to admit, I started laughing when it tried to update me to Win 11, I finally threw up my hands and said "Fuck it, why not!" said yes, and it did not work. 😄 It still kept asking though. Hilarious.
I'm 1.5 years into Bazzite now, and to be clear I end up using degrees of not-my-devices for a lot of my time on coprutor these days (so, not pushing this distro that hard over that time, in other words).
But it's been great, also run it on a small number of super cheap second hand laptops for various things and have had really good experiences.
There's a few caveats but overall Bazzite is accessible and robust.
this wasn't the AI preview/response thing at the top of a regular Google search result. they brought me into a new "AI mode" chatbot window completely separate from google search
I'm still not sure how I got it to fuck off. it kept doing it for simple searches, but would do a regular search if the search keys had enough words
Omg but it's ok because we called it 🌼⭐ federated learning ✨💮 so we only steal the data that is profitable to us while legally no PII leaves your device 🚀 weeeee!
Just the other day I uninstalled Chrome & gave "Enshittification" as the reason when prompted. Not that I'd been using it since turning to Firefox a few years ago and Waterfox more recently.
It’s always funny seeing the recent Reddit migrants here. Brave did a massive astroturfing ad campaign on Reddit for a while, and it was hugely successful. After things reached a critical mass, the echo chamber took over and Reddit users naturally began pushing Brave’s marketing fluff to the top. Brave is wildly popular over on Reddit as a result.
But they never targeted Lemmy, and Lemmings were pretty quick to jump on the “Brave is run by a very problematic person, and has a problematic past” side of things. Lemmy also has a very vocal FOSS enthusiast crowd, because the idea of FOSS meshes very well with why people would land on Lemmy. So Lemmings tend to prefer Firefox forks instead.
But you can always tell when someone has recently migrated here from Reddit. Because they’ll post a comment praising Brave, expecting to get upvoted like they would on Reddit. And instead, they get buried in downvotes and “my specific fork of Firefox is better” comments.
And sure enough, OP’s account is less than a day old, so they’re most likely a recent Reddit migrant.
OP, to address your point, Brave is still a Chromium browser, and has all of the trappings that entails. It is also run by a dude with a problematic past, and the company as a whole has a problematic past too. You should consider switching to a Firefox fork instead, with uBlock Origins or AdNauseum (which is a uBO fork) as ad blockers. I personally suggest the WaterFox fork, though you’ll likely want to disable some of the more strict privacy protections (like wiping all of your data every time you close the app) because it can make daily use a bit of a chore otherwise. There is always a matter of give-and-take between convenience and privacy, and WaterFox tends to skew more towards privacy.
I think you're mixing up Waterfox with Librewolf. Librewolf by default deletes all your data after closing it, Waterfox doesn't.
It's actually for this reason that I use both for different purposes. I sign into accounts with Waterfox (using account containers and browser profiles so each account's data is self-contained and not shared between each other) and use a sandboxed installation of Librewolf with a few extensions like NoScript installed and letterboxing enabled for anything I don't sign into (i.e. news articles, web searches, etc.) so that the 50-odd domains running scripts on my local news station's website get way less of a fingerprint off me to use to target ads at me or sell my data to data brokers or the gestapo.
Hah, you’re 100% correct. I use WaterFox as my daily driver, and remembered all of the frustrations with persistent data deletion from initially trying Librewolf. I swear WaterFox came with those features by default, but I probably transposed the frustration from when I initially tried out Librewolf instead.
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darkevilmac@lemmy.zip · 221 pts · 84d
Well your first mistake was using Chrome in 2026
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de · 27 pts · 84d
I hate that I still have to use Chrome because it can do some streaming stuff better than Firefox (and even Chromium for some reason). I only use it to connect to one KVM.
victorz@lemmy.world · 83 pts · 84d
Do the streaming issues resolve themselves ✨magically✨ when faking the user agent to be Chrome for those streaming sites, e.g. using Firefox and a user agent add-on?
CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 33 pts · 84d
Many do, yes. Any time I get an error message like "You're not using a supported browser" that message vanishes after adjusting the user agent.
victorz@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 84d
Well yes, the warning messages will disappear as those are often shown or not shown based on user agent.
But will the actual streaming issues go away is the big question.
Teams on the web for example, worked fine in Firefox even though it warned the user it didn't work in anything but Chrome.
CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 84d
I have not encountered streaming issues that could not be resolved by user agent so far.
unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 83d
That's the neat part - all always do!
ByteJunk@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 84d
My issues were with h265/HEVC support, proprietary stuff like media codecs can sometimes be a pain. I no longer have that need so I'm a happy fox.
The_Decryptor@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 84d
Pretty sure Firefox added support for HEVC a while back, but it relies on the system to provide the decoder (Which you'll usually have to pay extra for)
Firefox also supports MKV files now, which is nice.
lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network · 1 pts · 75d
Since when‽ It feels like support for that format took centuries!
The_Decryptor@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 74d
In 145.
Funny thing is, the WebM format is actually a constrained profile of MKV, and Firefox strictly enforced those compatibility checks. Chrome never did though, so it could always support MKV files but only if you lied and claimed they were WebM.
Edit: Lemmy eats the highlight in the link, look for "Matroska" under "Web Platform"
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de · 4 pts · 84d
Not in this case. It's an open source project. They usually don't do this shit.
Madrigal@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 84d
Tell them to get their shit together and support open-source browsers, or more accurately just browser standards in general.
helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 84d
For when I need Chrome, I use Vivaldi. Its probably over bloated for what I need, but it works.
MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social · 7 pts · 84d
I also use Vivaldi, and I don't care about the bloat.
I bought the entire computer, I'm going to use the entire computer.
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 83d
When I need to use Chrome, I just use the Chrome Mask extension in Firefox to change my user agent. I haven’t had a site that actually failed to work on the Gecko engine instead of Chromium. It’s just lazy devs checking your user agent to see if you’re using Chromium, and then throwing a fit if you’re not.
Chrome Mask even has a built in site reporter, because broken sites don’t actually conform to modern web interoperability requirements. If it fails to work on Gecko, there’s a good chance that it will also fail to work on other platforms (like Apple’s WebKit) as well. And the reports go to the team that develops Firefox, so they can figure out why the site is refusing to work on Gecko.
matchaotter@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 83d
Vivaldi is a great Chromium browser. I'm more of a Firefox/Librewolf on my personal machines, but my work's software has a few features that only work with Chromium extensions so I had to use it. Was my preferred alternative to all others, while bloated it was highly controllable and didn't focus on unnecessary features like Brave or others. My work recently banned any browser that isn't Chrome/Edge/Firefox though, so I guess I'm back to Firefox and will ignore the features I can't use
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 1 pts · 84d
Try Brave for this use-case. I find that it works well for all kinds of streaming.
And while it's no Firefox or Librewolf, it's still a lot better than Chrome.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 14 pts · 84d
The problem with brave is that the CEO is a very bad person, the company also give me sketchy vibes with the crypto stuff they push
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 7 pts · 84d
Well, sure.
But even then still better than Chrome.
lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network · 1 pts · 75d
Not better than Ungoogled Chromium nor Vivaldi.
texture@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 82d
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/73c2b864-0dd4-42ea-827c-ba7e02029250.png?format=webp
DaGammla@lemmy.ml · 23 pts · 84d
Second Mistake was using Windows in 2026
texture@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 84d
id say this is the first mistake really
Daxter101@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 82d
Icon checks out
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 84d
same i abandoned as soon as they said they were going to slow the browser/computer down for people using private mode. oh and it has no adblock that is good as ublock origin.
jcm@wafrn.jcm.re · 1 pts · 81d
@GemAlarm@lemmy.world @darkevilmac@lemmy.zip
no WebUSB in Firefox :(
10thGlyphix@lemmy.zip · 64 pts · 84d
Your first mistake was voluntarily using any Google software, especially chrome.
Mwa@thelemmy.club · -14 pts · 84d
But what if it was open source???
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 34 pts · 84d
Chromium is. Chrome is not
lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network · 1 pts · 75d
If the next version of my open source software will include a 4 GiB AI model, I'm not installing it.
zikzak025@lemmy.world · 56 pts · 84d
Software updates have gotten so fucked up in general these days.
It's so rare that changelogs are published to actually educate the end user about what an update will do. Most of the time it's just "Bug fixes and feature updates" with no further detail. What bugs? What features? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Then you update (or, more likely, you left auto-update on) because they guilt you into thinking that you'll immediately fall victim to a zero-day vulnerability if you don't. And suddenly everything just gets slightly worse and worse.
It should be more accepted to follow the mentality of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" with software, precluding the need to install new updates unless something stops working or there is a vulnerability to patch. On my phone at least, I have auto updates turned off and will generally let audience consensus determine if it's something I want. But it's still a coin toss if I decide to take an update, because no one bothers to tell you what they really do anymore.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 20 pts · 84d
Come to the world of open source.
Where changelogs are detailed and informative, and software updates actually make the software better.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 15 pts · 84d
And if changelogs aren't detailes enough, you read the commits
lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network · 1 pts · 75d
I've had to do that more often than being able to understand what will happen from the change log. Even for libraries used in projects.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 2 pts · 74d
::: spoiler Jumpscare warning
:::
lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network · 1 pts · 74d
Not sure what the jump scare is, but that's a stupidly funny reason to bump a version LMAO
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 1 pts · 74d
The jumpscare was the poor changelog
dbx12@programming.dev · 15 pts · 84d
Fun fact: when releasing apps on Google Play, you are basically forced to give a proper summary about what the update contains and Google threatens your developer account if you fail to do so. If you want some sour chuckles, check the "what's new" of YouTube or Google Play itself.
Paradachshund@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 83d
And then they give you a very short character limit in which to do so, thus leading to a lot of summarized patch notes due to those limits.
lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network · 1 pts · 75d
Which is exactly where I've seen "Bug fixes and feature updates" a lot.
REDACTED@infosec.pub · 14 pts · 84d
This reminds me - One of the games I play did an update called "Nothing update" and it just simply said "Nothing was updated, no need to investigate".
dbx12@programming.dev · 4 pts · 84d
Sounds a lot like "Herobrine removed"
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 4 pts · 84d
That update sounds very sus...
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip · 40 pts · 84d
Everyone who still uses chrome after this insane breach of trust (if there was any before) should seriously think about why he enjoys corporate boot on his neck that much.
jtrek@startrek.website · 13 pts · 84d
Most people don't know, aren't paying attention, and don't understand. It's our thankless task to try to educate and convince our less savvy friends.
myedition8@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 84d
Sadly, in my experience, it's useless. They usually think you're the weird one. Especially nowadays in the "AI" era. Whenever I talk negatively about it I get weird looks. People love their corpo slop.
jtrek@startrek.website · 2 pts · 83d
We are the weird ones. But the only thing that changes people mind is in-group pressure. If people trust you, they'll at least humor you. Plant those seeds.
TwoWeebles@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 84d
I keep thinking back to to the tweens when crypto miners would infect computers. IMO same strategy. Why buy the compute (Data Centers) when you can crowdsource it?
victorz@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 84d
Leopards ate my face moment. Stop using that trash.
judgyweevil@feddit.it · 41 pts · 84d
Leopards are those entities that openly boast about eating your face. It's not the case with Google. Your average non-IT-savy person knows almost nothing about their shenanigans
victorz@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 84d
It's been very open among us Lemmers for years now. Posting here it could be all but assumed they knew about this bad behavior for a long time.
paranoid@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 84d
This is not a "leopards ate my face" situation.
FauxLiving@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 84d
"I never thought AI would eat my face"
-Person who installed the browser from the AI Face Eater company
victorz@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 84d
It is, on my opinion. Lemmers should know Google is not a good faith actor.
paranoid@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 83d
For some people, sure - actively choosing chrome despite knowing the kind of company Google has become is silly
But then I think about the people who have chrome pre-installed on their phones, with no ability to remove it. Despite using a different browser, they still got burned by this.
I do believe lemmings have a higher tech literacy than the average internet user, but I also believe tech literacy shouldn't be a requirement to hide from ai.
The people who boast about using chrome and insist other browsers are trash absolutely had their faces eaten... But the people who did their best to avoid chrome did not
victorz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 83d
Those were the people I was referring to. I was referring to the people who do know better.
But it's true what you're saying as well, about devices where you have no choice. Not very easy to do anything about that.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 12 pts · 84d
Seriously. Chrome is the single worst mainstream browser on the market today, bar none.
Absolutely any choice would be better than Google Chrome.
LytiaNP@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 84d
Edge... Opera... Internet explorer...
DmMacniel@feddit.org · 4 pts · 84d
Its all chromium anyway.
drcobaltjedi@programming.dev · 14 pts · 84d
I'm gonna go on a limb here and say that Internet Explorer isn't chromium based.
DmMacniel@feddit.org · 4 pts · 84d
Yeah true; but Internet explorer isn't supported ever since Edge (back when it was an actual browser and not just a skin of chromium) came out
victorz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 84d
I actually thought Edge was kinda cool when it first came out with its own engine. Another player in the game, I thought.
Now? How dull.
The_Decryptor@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 84d
EdgeHTML was a genuine improvement over the old IE engine, but even MS couldn't compete against Google in the end.
LytiaNP@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 84d
Internet Explorer is still used by the Windows OS quite frequently. So depending on your definition of "supported" it still kind of is. Plus the internet hasn't changed all that much, so most websites will work with any web browser regardless of age.
drcobaltjedi@programming.dev · 1 pts · 84d
Fun fact, if you're a .NET developer, you can actually still use IE. The browser control on winforms is just IE. Those old .NET framework versions will never die so neither will IE.
vrek@programming.dev · 2 pts · 84d
Internet explorer isn't, but Edge is chromium based.
Katana314@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 84d
A while back, I was actually okay with MS being semi forcible about Windows Update.
Most people overestimate their antivirus, and don’t realize that frequent updates are generally the most important way of keeping their system safe. And, to avoid turning computers into zombies for botnets, to keep the whole internet safe. Windows is the world’s most popular OS - it’s good for the world to keep systems secure.
And then MS had the gall to betray that responsibility of only shipping critical security patches by forceful methods. They started forcing people to Windows 11, pushing Edge back in as their browser, pushing popups and Start menu changes, and so on. For a thousand reasons, Windows Update has more notoriety in common with malware than the malware it’s meant to protect you from.
teslekova@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 84d
I have to admit, I started laughing when it tried to update me to Win 11, I finally threw up my hands and said "Fuck it, why not!" said yes, and it did not work. 😄 It still kept asking though. Hilarious.
I installed Bazzite this year.
PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 83d
I'm 1.5 years into Bazzite now, and to be clear I end up using degrees of not-my-devices for a lot of my time on coprutor these days (so, not pushing this distro that hard over that time, in other words).
But it's been great, also run it on a small number of super cheap second hand laptops for various things and have had really good experiences.
There's a few caveats but overall Bazzite is accessible and robust.
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 83d
Yup, exactly. The concept of forced updates is fine, as long as it is handled properly. The issue is that Microsoft has not handled it properly.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 25 pts · 84d
I googled a definition of a word today. it took me two minutes to get chrome to not use the "AI mode" search when searching via the address bar
tomorrow I'm switching to Firefox at work. after I spend an hour trying to figure out how to remove the copilot overlay from Excel, anyways
7101334@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 84d
When it comes to disabling AI in Google searches, you have two choices:
-aito the end of your search, ie, "define asinine -ai"mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 84d
this wasn't the AI preview/response thing at the top of a regular Google search result. they brought me into a new "AI mode" chatbot window completely separate from google search
I'm still not sure how I got it to fuck off. it kept doing it for simple searches, but would do a regular search if the search keys had enough words
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 84d
What was the GDP for fucking Columbia in 1997?
($127.4 billion for those interested)
tomjuggler@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 83d
You can ask the Duck Duck Go AI Assistant instead 🤣
VanRayInd@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 84d
OperaGX has been nice to me so far
texture@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 84d
opera is not nice to you, its an awful company and does not respect your privacy or data at all.
look at a firefox fork like waterfox if you want a browser that will be nice to you
lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network · 1 pts · 75d
It has been mean to you without you knowing, actually.
DrSoap@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 84d
Uninstall and use another browser. Easy peasy.
mrmanager@lemmy.today · 13 pts · 83d
I remember chrome, its the new Internet Explorer i believe.
motruck@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 83d
Google doesn't need to scrape the web they just need chrome to send them the das you are already scrapping for them. Stop using Chrome.
grrgyle@slrpnk.net · 8 pts · 83d
Omg but it's ok because we called it 🌼⭐ federated learning ✨💮 so we only steal the data that is profitable to us while legally no PII leaves your device 🚀 weeeee!
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 82d
It installed it two years ago but nobody noticed because all the privacy nerds use different browsers
FauxLiving@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 84d
Stop using Chrome
When has Google ever asked anybody before updating Chrome?
*Except for the
Announcement video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56b9uHAcHYc
Blog post: https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/products/search/ai-mode-chrome/
Developer documentation: https://developer.chrome.com/docs/ai/built-in
And product page: https://gemini.google/overview/gemini-in-chrome/
sudoer777@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 83d
I wonder when Brave's local blockchain update will drop
tomjuggler@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 83d
I found out this doesn't apply to celeron laptop from 2016 with 4 GB ram so all good.
Local AI js API checks pc specs before downloading - cos it wouldn't work anyway 😁
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 84d
people used chrome?
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 82d
Don't give money to the death star and yes, your data is money
wraekscadu@vargar.org · 3 pts · 83d
It's all a joke at this point lol.
"So what new evil schemes are big tech up to? Ah, installing LLMs on people's devices? Wonderful!"
Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 83d
Maybe one of their users will find a use for it.Then they will finally have a business plan!
BenLeMan@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 83d
Just the other day I uninstalled Chrome & gave "Enshittification" as the reason when prompted. Not that I'd been using it since turning to Firefox a few years ago and Waterfox more recently.
MyChairHasLegs@programming.dev · 2 pts · 83d
BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 83d
How does one see exactly what a person said to get themselves banned?
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 82d
Probably pure spam as he's been nuked whole on its instance
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 84d
I only used Chrome on my old phone, and since I have switched away from it with the new phone.
No sensible adblocker is the point that killed Chrome for me.
deadymouse@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 82d
FelixCress@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 84d
Just stop updates.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 8 pts · 84d
Just stop using corpo software.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 84d
But danger
For real
AlJones@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 83d
Brave is better than Chrome. Definitely recommend.
thephar@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 83d
I’d seriously reconsider considering their history so far.
https://www.spacebar.news/stop-using-brave-browser/
If it must be Chromium, Vivaldi is better. Though I’d recommend Waterfox (Firefox fork).
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 83d
It’s always funny seeing the recent Reddit migrants here. Brave did a massive astroturfing ad campaign on Reddit for a while, and it was hugely successful. After things reached a critical mass, the echo chamber took over and Reddit users naturally began pushing Brave’s marketing fluff to the top. Brave is wildly popular over on Reddit as a result.
But they never targeted Lemmy, and Lemmings were pretty quick to jump on the “Brave is run by a very problematic person, and has a problematic past” side of things. Lemmy also has a very vocal FOSS enthusiast crowd, because the idea of FOSS meshes very well with why people would land on Lemmy. So Lemmings tend to prefer Firefox forks instead.
But you can always tell when someone has recently migrated here from Reddit. Because they’ll post a comment praising Brave, expecting to get upvoted like they would on Reddit. And instead, they get buried in downvotes and “my specific fork of Firefox is better” comments.
And sure enough, OP’s account is less than a day old, so they’re most likely a recent Reddit migrant.
OP, to address your point, Brave is still a Chromium browser, and has all of the trappings that entails. It is also run by a dude with a problematic past, and the company as a whole has a problematic past too. You should consider switching to a Firefox fork instead, with uBlock Origins or AdNauseum (which is a uBO fork) as ad blockers. I personally suggest the WaterFox fork, though you’ll likely want to disable some of the more strict privacy protections (like wiping all of your data every time you close the app) because it can make daily use a bit of a chore otherwise. There is always a matter of give-and-take between convenience and privacy, and WaterFox tends to skew more towards privacy.
Nyadia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 83d
I think you're mixing up Waterfox with Librewolf. Librewolf by default deletes all your data after closing it, Waterfox doesn't.
It's actually for this reason that I use both for different purposes. I sign into accounts with Waterfox (using account containers and browser profiles so each account's data is self-contained and not shared between each other) and use a sandboxed installation of Librewolf with a few extensions like NoScript installed and letterboxing enabled for anything I don't sign into (i.e. news articles, web searches, etc.) so that the 50-odd domains running scripts on my local news station's website get way less of a fingerprint off me to use to target ads at me or sell my data to data brokers or the gestapo.
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 83d
Hah, you’re 100% correct. I use WaterFox as my daily driver, and remembered all of the frustrations with persistent data deletion from initially trying Librewolf. I swear WaterFox came with those features by default, but I probably transposed the frustration from when I initially tried out Librewolf instead.
FaygoBoozer@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 83d
Firefox and Firefox forks > *
We all need to stop using Chromium forks
MyChairHasLegs@programming.dev · 1 pts · 83d