For those who don't know, this phrase has come full circle.
It started as something literally impossible. Then people started using it to say they did it anyway. Expecting what is supposed to be impossible out of people is insane.
As a boomer-adjacent 60-year-old, with an adult son living at home, it's the economy, stupid.
But, more than that, the world has gone to shit. And, no, that's not the boomer generation's fault. It's the fault of the billionaires and the ignorant people of all generations who have voted for conservatives over the past 50 years.
Sure but they were alive and voted sometime over the past 50 years. And some of them deffo voted for shit politicians. Iâm really not sure what your comment is trying to say.
Yeah it comes down to the fact that the boomers were the largest generation for 54 years, their reign ending in 2019. So they played a large role in getting us to this fucked up place. And now Millennials are the largest generation, and we need to figure out how to unfuck it.
As an Australian looking at the US political system, it is fucked in a way that voting can never fix. It simply isn't a democracy in anything other than name.
Over here I can vote for someone other than the two major parties and my vote will actually count for something. In the USA you're basically throwing your vote in the bin unless you vote for horrible party A or slightly less horrible party B.
Youâre right about America but your country is on the same exact path which means your generation is making the same mistakes of not doing anything about it.
Basically I think the Australia can be saved by the people voting but I don't think the USA system can. We have some problem with gerrymandering in the lower and upper houses, voting is not exactly proportional because of that, but there are actually minor parties and independents sitting in parliament and holding the balance of power. Just this last week the governing Labor party is trying to pass budget and tax reform, which they can only do by getting the leftist Greens party to vote with them. This tax reform shifts taxation away from income and onto assets such as property and shares to make things more equitable.
We have our problems, sure, but an unchallenged head of state and a failing democracy is not one of them. If conservatives or centrists are in government here it's because the Australian people voted for them, and every person's vote counted via preference flows if their #1 choice didn't make it in. If conservatives or centrists are in government in the USA it's because there was literally nobody else to vote for.
You also vote for the party here, not the prime minister, and the party can throw out their prime minister any time they want. Or the governor general can fire them. Both of these things have actually happened in recent times. As far as I'm aware, Nixon after watergate was the only president to actually lose office and he resigned rather than getting thrown out.
Greatest and silent generations laughing their asses off at the boomers taking all the heat for the state of the world. Previous generations would also be laughing if they weren't dead.
You really need to look at the size difference between Boomers and Silent generation to understand how ridiculous that claim is. Not to mention once Boomers started feeling represented their voting participation rates shot up. They have dominated the U.S. political landscape for well over four decades.
I maxed out my donation to Bernie and voted for him. In the 40 years I've been voting, I've never voted for a conservative, or Republican, neither federal, state nor local. I've always voted as far left as I can.
It's so fucked that this is as far left as you can vote, first past the post is mental. Over here I can vote for the socialist alliance party or the animal justice party and actually have it count for something.
I just ask because I was phone banking for that primary and occasionally I ended up on the phone with a registered Republican for whatever reason. They were cordial and I was able to tell them why I thought Bernie was the best candidate among the Democratic nominees.
You know who was vile though? Registered democratic boomers were furious with me and called Bernie "too radical".
So I don't buy it when people try to deflect blame away from boomers for the state of American politics. Registered democratic boomers fight leftists harder than they fight MAGA. đ¤ˇââď¸
Adult sons living at home is common in European countries where status quo is to the left of your Bernie. So it must be something else. I blame NIMBYs.
Italy is left of Bernie? I'm apparently ignorant, can you please tell me where is that intersection of "left of Bernie" and "adult children lives at home"?
Maybe I don't understand left of Bernie: Is he far right so left of him is still right?
I must admit I do not know Bernie's policies in great detail. What I wanted to say that is that countries with national healthcare, free schooling, paid maternity, sick time, vacation days and such being the law I would refer to being left of Bernie because the status quo in USA is so much to the right.
Even in countries where all of this is provided by the state, being able to afford roof over your head is still a big challenge.
One article pointed out it takes $200 for a date, while another points out Zoomers are just not having that much sex, nor are they into romantic relationships.
Maybe if you work a people too hard and give them no hope for a future; if they can't afford to have a life, they may not want to have kids.
tf? When I go on a first date with a girl, I take her to a funky bar. We typically have 1 or 2 drinks max. Typically, I buy first round and she buys the second - but even if I pay for the whole date, it's only $40 max. Including tip.
Then for subsequent dates, we're either meeting at one of our places to get straight down to business, or doing something free or nearly free, like going hiking or playing pickleball or cooking dinner together.
Zoomers are just not having that much sex
I can tell you that zoomers are plenty interested in sex. They just need to get over their social anxiety to get naked with someone else.
Yeah, the article in question turned out to be largely BS. The actual study was about dates, including dates that married or long-term couples go on, and even then you had to squint to get the $200 total out of it.
Donât worry. Thanks to the combination of industrial waste in our water supply and VR cybersex theyâll be pumping out Ninja Turtles and Transformers.
I always thought this was a weird take. Like yeah I get being a parent is hard and with the world today itâs just not financially fair to a kid for most people to try.
But dude, kids are hilarious and fun m, if you know the right ones.
What this is, is the cascading effect of fewer not-shitty people (or decent people in shitty situations) having kids. Then, everyone sees this maladjusted children and even fewer people want to give it a go.
I mean itâs not anyoneâs choice but theirs if they want to have em or even like em. But ironically itâs almost like accelerationism when we all collectively swear off trying.
104 Comments
tpihkal@lemmy.world · 170 pts · 84d
I can barely afford rent at 40; how the fuck am I going to afford to raise a kid?
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 134 pts · 84d
puts hand on shoulder son, we've got to talk about your avocado toast
meekah@discuss.tchncs.de · 62 pts · 84d
Don't forget all the Starbucks coffee!
ignotum@lemmy.world · 55 pts · 84d
Instead of buying that latte, why don't you instead buy some bootstraps and pull on them
Serinus@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 84d
For those who don't know, this phrase has come full circle.
It started as something literally impossible. Then people started using it to say they did it anyway. Expecting what is supposed to be impossible out of people is insane.
whalebiologist@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 83d
Signtist@bookwyr.me · 10 pts · 83d
Yeah, it's like when people say they just gave 110%. Cool, very quippy, but really, what did you do?
ignotum@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 83d
Performance enhancing drugs? đ¤ˇââď¸
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 83d
Sadist laguage.
quarkquasar@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 83d
I'm sure it was only a few bad apples that started that.
Disregardless, I could care less.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 83d
It's literally a joke rich people use to show how stupid poor people are.
Serinus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 83d
Horse and sparrow theory?
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 83d
Then just walk in, demand to see the Big Boss, say Good Morning Sir, and ask for the job!
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 83d
That phrase is just something the rich tell the poor to get them to bend over.
ignotum@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 83d
They could've just bought me dinner and then asked nicely
Chivalry is dead
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 83d
Everything is about power to them...
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 83d
And the rotisserie chickens!
binarytobis@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 83d
The media really gave me unrealistic expectations about how much money my dislike of avocado was going to save me.
capt_wolf@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 83d
"There's never going to be a good time for it. We didn't have a lot of money when I had mine. You just learn to sacrifice for them."
Motherfucker, I just ate ramen for dinner.
Flower@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 83d
And the rich are even buying up trailer parks to squeeze money out of the people there, so even becoming trailer park trash with kids is unaffordable.
SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip · 10 pts · 83d
I support the death penalty for private equity executives.
dharmacurious@slrpnk.net · 26 pts · 84d
Who said anything about raising it? You just need to have the kid, and then the orphan crushing machine will take over from there
architect@thelemmy.club · 7 pts · 82d
I just straight up wouldnât want to be born so why would I do that to someone?
basxto@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 83d
child labor
FauxPseudo@lemmy.world · 121 pts · 84d
"Do you know how hard you have to abuse a mammal to make them not have children?" -- Connor Leahy
GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 83d
Pandas:
greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 82d
If you leave them alone in the forest, they're great at making babies. Put them in captivity and they don't.
FauxPseudo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 83d
There is always an exception somewhere.
pigup@lemmy.world · 120 pts · 83d
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JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 72 pts · 83d
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blarghly@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 82d
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WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 83d
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bhamlin@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 83d
No way, that'd be too convenient. They'll probably make that illegal as soon as they find out someone thought of it.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 83d
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SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 83d
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Zwiebel@feddit.org · 5 pts · 83d
Joke's on you it's legal in my country đ
Junkasaurus@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 83d
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DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 95 pts · 84d
As a boomer-adjacent 60-year-old, with an adult son living at home, it's the economy, stupid.
But, more than that, the world has gone to shit. And, no, that's not the boomer generation's fault. It's the fault of the billionaires and the ignorant people of all generations who have voted for conservatives over the past 50 years.
Miaou@jlai.lu · 28 pts · 84d
Millennials were not voting 50 years ago.
nexguy@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 83d
Over the last 50 years includes 0 years, 1 years, even 2 and 3 up to 4 or 5 years ago. Probably even more who knows.
athatet@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 83d
Sure but they were alive and voted sometime over the past 50 years. And some of them deffo voted for shit politicians. Iâm really not sure what your comment is trying to say.
go_go_gadget@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 83d
Their comment is rightfully pointing out the lions share of responsibility Boomers have for the state of American politics.
athatet@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 83d
And Iâm trying to point out that generations are a spook meant to divide us instead of us focussing on the actual problem, billionaires.
No war but class war.
go_go_gadget@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 83d
Tell that to the boomers. đ¤ˇââď¸
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 83d
"And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."
Dozzi92@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 83d
Yeah it comes down to the fact that the boomers were the largest generation for 54 years, their reign ending in 2019. So they played a large role in getting us to this fucked up place. And now Millennials are the largest generation, and we need to figure out how to unfuck it.
architect@thelemmy.club · 4 pts · 82d
At least half of us are stupid as fuck.
unit327@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 83d
As an Australian looking at the US political system, it is fucked in a way that voting can never fix. It simply isn't a democracy in anything other than name.
Over here I can vote for someone other than the two major parties and my vote will actually count for something. In the USA you're basically throwing your vote in the bin unless you vote for horrible party A or slightly less horrible party B.
halferect@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 82d
Australia is basically a exstension of the US, if you vote in anyone who isn't what the US wants the CIA will make sure they get removed.
architect@thelemmy.club · 2 pts · 82d
Youâre right about America but your country is on the same exact path which means your generation is making the same mistakes of not doing anything about it.
unit327@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 82d
Basically I think the Australia can be saved by the people voting but I don't think the USA system can. We have some problem with gerrymandering in the lower and upper houses, voting is not exactly proportional because of that, but there are actually minor parties and independents sitting in parliament and holding the balance of power. Just this last week the governing Labor party is trying to pass budget and tax reform, which they can only do by getting the leftist Greens party to vote with them. This tax reform shifts taxation away from income and onto assets such as property and shares to make things more equitable.
We have our problems, sure, but an unchallenged head of state and a failing democracy is not one of them. If conservatives or centrists are in government here it's because the Australian people voted for them, and every person's vote counted via preference flows if their #1 choice didn't make it in. If conservatives or centrists are in government in the USA it's because there was literally nobody else to vote for.
You also vote for the party here, not the prime minister, and the party can throw out their prime minister any time they want. Or the governor general can fire them. Both of these things have actually happened in recent times. As far as I'm aware, Nixon after watergate was the only president to actually lose office and he resigned rather than getting thrown out.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 83d
Greatest and silent generations laughing their asses off at the boomers taking all the heat for the state of the world. Previous generations would also be laughing if they weren't dead.
go_go_gadget@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 83d
You really need to look at the size difference between Boomers and Silent generation to understand how ridiculous that claim is. Not to mention once Boomers started feeling represented their voting participation rates shot up. They have dominated the U.S. political landscape for well over four decades.
4am@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 83d
We could have turned out and stopped the boomers but we continued to let them vote us down and, eventually, rig it against us.
Hanging chads!
go_go_gadget@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 83d
Who'd you vote for in the 2020 primaries?
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 83d
I maxed out my donation to Bernie and voted for him. In the 40 years I've been voting, I've never voted for a conservative, or Republican, neither federal, state nor local. I've always voted as far left as I can.
Bernie pin:
unit327@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 83d
It's so fucked that this is as far left as you can vote, first past the post is mental. Over here I can vote for the socialist alliance party or the animal justice party and actually have it count for something.
Katana314@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 83d
Very good wording: âA conservative, or a Republicanâ
Speculater@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 83d
Damn, you got me. I totally blanked on that primary. Bernie 2.0! Not OP, sorry.
go_go_gadget@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 83d
I just ask because I was phone banking for that primary and occasionally I ended up on the phone with a registered Republican for whatever reason. They were cordial and I was able to tell them why I thought Bernie was the best candidate among the Democratic nominees.
You know who was vile though? Registered democratic boomers were furious with me and called Bernie "too radical".
So I don't buy it when people try to deflect blame away from boomers for the state of American politics. Registered democratic boomers fight leftists harder than they fight MAGA. đ¤ˇââď¸
4am@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 83d
The Democrats really are just republicans trying to âplacate the Mr Rogers generationsâ.
Both parties are filled with ruthless âempathy is weak, every man for himselfâ assholes. They must be kept as far away from politics as possible.
architect@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 82d
Damn i had a MAGA threaten to rape me when i was texting for him.
majster@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 83d
Adult sons living at home is common in European countries where status quo is to the left of your Bernie. So it must be something else. I blame NIMBYs.
Potatar@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 82d
Italy is left of Bernie? I'm apparently ignorant, can you please tell me where is that intersection of "left of Bernie" and "adult children lives at home"?
Maybe I don't understand left of Bernie: Is he far right so left of him is still right?
majster@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 82d
I must admit I do not know Bernie's policies in great detail. What I wanted to say that is that countries with national healthcare, free schooling, paid maternity, sick time, vacation days and such being the law I would refer to being left of Bernie because the status quo in USA is so much to the right.
Even in countries where all of this is provided by the state, being able to afford roof over your head is still a big challenge.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 49 pts · 83d
One article pointed out it takes $200 for a date, while another points out Zoomers are just not having that much sex, nor are they into romantic relationships.
Maybe if you work a people too hard and give them no hope for a future; if they can't afford to have a life, they may not want to have kids.
Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 83d
No, no. We just have to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps and stop being lazy.
blarghly@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 82d
tf? When I go on a first date with a girl, I take her to a funky bar. We typically have 1 or 2 drinks max. Typically, I buy first round and she buys the second - but even if I pay for the whole date, it's only $40 max. Including tip.
Then for subsequent dates, we're either meeting at one of our places to get straight down to business, or doing something free or nearly free, like going hiking or playing pickleball or cooking dinner together.
I can tell you that zoomers are plenty interested in sex. They just need to get over their social anxiety to get naked with someone else.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 82d
Yeah, the article in question turned out to be largely BS. The actual study was about dates, including dates that married or long-term couples go on, and even then you had to squint to get the $200 total out of it.
GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 83d
This is a funny headline if you want to complain but sneaking behind some bushes in the park is still free.
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 82d
$200??? What am I Richie rich? Fuck me if I'm paying the most I'm spending is $50 then we going to the park
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 83d
Average for whatever study that is doesn't mean "need".
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today · 47 pts · 84d
Microplastics are stored in the balls.
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 23 pts · 83d
Bhaelfur@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 83d
Ah shit, I've been making my own this entire time!
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 83d
Homemade usually tastes better.
altphoto@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 83d
And that's where the cum is!
Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 83d
So the next generation's children will be GI Joes and Barbies. No thank you, I'd rather not have any Mattel products for kids.
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 83d
Donât worry. Thanks to the combination of industrial waste in our water supply and VR cybersex theyâll be pumping out Ninja Turtles and Transformers.
AskMeForADickPic@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 84d
Downloading cum is so easy, come on be realistic
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FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 84d
Bro knows where the cum is stored and where the sex happens
pleb_maximus@piefed.zip · 12 pts · 84d
Of course, bro is using Arch btw.
mech@feddit.org · 7 pts · 83d
kungen@feddit.nu · 3 pts · 83d
I personally prefer my
sexwithout STD flags.Big_Boss_77@fedinsfw.app · 4 pts · 83d
Who is "be realistic" and why am I cumming on them?
Katana314@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 83d
Stipulation: You canât pirate it.
socsa@piefed.social · 29 pts · 83d
Personally I just don't like children, and am suspicious of people who claim to have them on purpose
4am@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 83d
I always thought this was a weird take. Like yeah I get being a parent is hard and with the world today itâs just not financially fair to a kid for most people to try.
But dude, kids are hilarious and fun m, if you know the right ones.
What this is, is the cascading effect of fewer not-shitty people (or decent people in shitty situations) having kids. Then, everyone sees this maladjusted children and even fewer people want to give it a go.
I mean itâs not anyoneâs choice but theirs if they want to have em or even like em. But ironically itâs almost like accelerationism when we all collectively swear off trying.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 83d
Ngl the "hilarious and fun" part mainly comes from them being literal superhumans.
Funny? Hell yeah! But I would NOT trust myself to raise this thing lmao.
SaraTonin@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 83d
I love my niblings. My world is an immeasurably better place with them in it. They bring me a lot of joy
I do not want kids of my own and am very glad that i never had any
vga@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 83d
Literally every ancestor of yours disagreed
socsa@piefed.social · 4 pts · 83d
We should always strive to do better than our parents.
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 83d
Nah, I'd say there's a fair few who were confused about how that happened.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 83d
Holy selection bias, Batman! đ
architect@thelemmy.club · 0 pts · 82d
Lol thatâs a mighty big assumption Iâm guessing born of privilege! Let me assure you, plenty of people are having kids and hate them.
Battle_Masker@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 83d
Wait, you guys are finding partners?
basxto@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 83d
Was having hope on having a go with me from the mirror universe
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 84d
Sex ed was too effective. They don't know how to have sex without condoms!
mhzawadi@lemmy.horwood.cloud · 8 pts · 84d
Sounds about right
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 82d
Grok, where do I put my pennis?
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 83d
"These kids today need to be as miserable and depressed as we are!"