Everyone in MGS apparently speaks like that because that's how you speak in Japanese, when you acknowledge something you just repeat it as a question instead of saying something like "oh cool", normally it's localized away.
I've always wondered if that was the case. I've also noticed that a lot of translated sentences end with some variation of "isn't it?" and figure there's some similar linguistic quirk at play.
i never opened a japenese dictionary but my guess is you say "sodesuka" when you agree with sth, but you say "naruhodo" when you figured something out anew
They did the same thing in Final Fantasy X. I found it a bit annoying ending every sentence with "ya?" At first I thought it was just a quirk they added to Wakka to make him seem more like a chill islander, but then other characters started to do it too, and I realized it was probably a translation from "ね？"
Can confirm your realization. That hirogana's romani is "ne" which is pronounced such that it rhymes with "fiancé" (which is close to "nay" but the y technically adds an "ee" sound at the very end which isn't present in "ne").
Functionally, it works just like the Canadian "eh" (when used correctly, not added to the end of all sentences like an American parody of a Canadian), to the point where I've been wondering if Japanese is the origin for the Canadian bit (or if they share a common origin that was brought over with one or more of the waves of natives crossing to Alaska).
It works well in a spy satire. The number 1 agent can’t even remember how to eat until their handler reminds them? It plucks you up from the ground and firmly plants you back in the silly pot
There's a game Where Winds Meet that tried to implement and LLM for some NPC interactions and some of them would reward you if you helped them with their issues. People found that doing the Solid Snake conversation method would always end up successfully helping them lol
This makes me wanna play MGS again. One of the few games - maybe the only one - I finished more than once. Being from the PSX era it still holds up well. It’s honestly a masterpiece and I’m so happy that I was able to play it as a kid when it was released.
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Marmaduke@lemmy.world · 123 pts · 82d
Everyone in MGS apparently speaks like that because that's how you speak in Japanese, when you acknowledge something you just repeat it as a question instead of saying something like "oh cool", normally it's localized away.
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world · 49 pts · 82d
I've always wondered if that was the case. I've also noticed that a lot of translated sentences end with some variation of "isn't it?" and figure there's some similar linguistic quirk at play.
Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 33 pts · 82d
Desu ne? Is my very uneducated guess on what is translating to isnt it?
dalekcaan@feddit.nl · 27 pts · 82d
Innit?
Siethron@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 82d
Sodesuka
Quadrexium@sopuli.xyz · 12 pts · 82d
Naruhodo
Starf4rged@reddthat.com · 8 pts · 82d
Naruhodo (doesn't Naruhodo at all)
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 82d
Someone JSLs (Japanese as a Second Language)
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org · 3 pts · 82d
i never opened a japenese dictionary but my guess is you say "sodesuka" when you agree with sth, but you say "naruhodo" when you figured something out anew
MrRandom@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 82d
ain't that so?
coolie4@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 82d
They did the same thing in Final Fantasy X. I found it a bit annoying ending every sentence with "ya?" At first I thought it was just a quirk they added to Wakka to make him seem more like a chill islander, but then other characters started to do it too, and I realized it was probably a translation from "ね？"
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 82d
Can confirm your realization. That hirogana's romani is "ne" which is pronounced such that it rhymes with "fiancé" (which is close to "nay" but the y technically adds an "ee" sound at the very end which isn't present in "ne").
Functionally, it works just like the Canadian "eh" (when used correctly, not added to the end of all sentences like an American parody of a Canadian), to the point where I've been wondering if Japanese is the origin for the Canadian bit (or if they share a common origin that was brought over with one or more of the waves of natives crossing to Alaska).
skittle07crusher@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 82d
You two make me miss that game so much. Thank you, very interesting
Zwiebel@feddit.org · 5 pts · 82d
Manga TLs love "at this rate" and "various"
Gust@piefed.social · 2 pts · 82d
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 82d
Or the Midwestern US/Canadian "eh?" maybe
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 82d
My favorite pornography films work that way.
uuj8za@piefed.social · 46 pts · 82d
Everyone in MGS speaks like that because that's how you speak in Japanese?
Oh, cool.
modus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 81d
Oh you think that's cool?
That reminds me of my best friend. He's a veterinarian.
calcopiritus@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 82d
That explains why everyone in anime seems so fucking dumb.
"In order to kill the guy, we have to shoot him in the head"
"So you are saying that we have to shoot the guy in the head in order to kill him?"
Yes you little shit, that's exactly what he said, with the exact same words. It's so annoying.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 82d
It's actually a practical way to answer, because it tells the person making the statement whether the listener heard them correctly.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 82d
Its respect.
If you can reiterate it... you were actually paying attention.
Just saying 'oh neat!', you're being flippant, in comparison.
Johanno@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 81d
Ah soo desuka?
ignotum@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 82d
Active listening?
snooggums@piefed.world · 11 pts · 82d
Audible listening.
ignotum@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 82d
Audible listening?
danekrae@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 82d
ignotum@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 82d
Dr Farnsworth?
PixeIOrange@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 82d
Conversation?
Furbag@pawb.social · 17 pts · 82d
Active listening?
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 82d
Yeah... I've heard about that.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 82d
https://youtu.be/4VOubVB4CTU
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 82d
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 82d
It works well in a spy satire. The number 1 agent can’t even remember how to eat until their handler reminds them? It plucks you up from the ground and firmly plants you back in the silly pot
OmegaMouse@pawb.social · 21 pts · 82d
A häagen-dazs? Colonel, what's an American ice cream brand doing here??
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 82d
Yeah, I did.
You did?
Yeah.
Yeah?
Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 82d
Psycho mantis?
halendos@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 82d
You're that ninja
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 82d
UH - OH! THE TRUCK HAVE STARTED TO MOVE!JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 82d
Qu'est-ce que c'est?
tetris11@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 82d
~ You like meeen ~
Asafum@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 82d
There's a game Where Winds Meet that tried to implement and LLM for some NPC interactions and some of them would reward you if you helped them with their issues. People found that doing the Solid Snake conversation method would always end up successfully helping them lol
Hazmatastic@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 82d
A Hind D?
Agent641@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 82d
What's a Russian gunship doing here?!
chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 82d
Crab battle
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 82d
Damn! Broke...broke my knife...!
Olioliolioliolioooo!!!! 😮
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 82d
Snake! You're not making sense.
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 82d
Snake talks like a toddler.
EldenLord@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 82d
A toddler, you say?
skittle07crusher@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 82d
“A toddler, you say?”, you say?
Donkter@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 82d
Say you say?
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 82d
Eliza?
abcd@feddit.org · 7 pts · 82d
This makes me wanna play MGS again. One of the few games - maybe the only one - I finished more than once. Being from the PSX era it still holds up well. It’s honestly a masterpiece and I’m so happy that I was able to play it as a kid when it was released.
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 82d
One of my great gaming shames is that I've never actually played any metal gear game...
VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 82d
FYI, Metal Gear Solid 1 was explicitly designed to be beaten by adults with jobs over a weekend.
You wouldn't expect it with Kojima's current design philosophy, but MGS1 is quite digestable.
Carmakazi@piefed.social · 7 pts · 82d
Parrot Exposition?
skittle07crusher@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 82d
I was just thinking, what is this, easiest exposition ever?
Thorry@feddit.org · 6 pts · 82d
Second floor basement?!?!?!
Zozano@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 82d
Hey, you're that ninja!
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 82d
Echolalia?
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 82d
Crab battle...
Pipster@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 81d
It broke my knife...
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 82d
buttlickersayswhat
Venat0r@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 82d
butt licker?
slaacaa@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 82d
Hmm