This is the equivalent of an NFL Linebacker trying to tackle a kindergartener, missing completely, hurting himself, and buying the kindergartner a Maserati.
(The player also hurt the whole NFL team, doubled their debt, collapsed it's economic, some geopolitical alliances, it's petrodollar, etc - and that's just in relation to this one thing/war with the kindergartner.)
Which gives us our path to punishment for their crimes. The money was all they cared about, so we'll be removing that from their lives. They won't be needing it in prison. Or in Hell, if that's where they end up after the trials.
Oh you sweet summer child, the US is designed so that the oligarchs never face consequences for their actions. Think of what would happen to the share holders!
We are not obligated to follow the old rules that got us to this point.
The ironic thing about MAGAs destruction of our governmental systems is that when MAGA gets kicked out, WE get to rebuild the government the way WE want it to be. It will be a unique opportunity for Democrats, and they can't squander it this time.
Serves him right. He has no morals. No class. No ethics. He spent a full election season saying he was a "Never trump guy". So when trump called him up and said "You wanna be VP?" the respectable thing would have been to say "Yes, but not with you. I'm a never trump guy".
He didn't do that. He said "YES SIR!!! WHERE ON YOUR ASS WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO KISS, SIR???"
They'll 25th Trump's ass as soon as it doesn't count as a presidential term for vance, if he pulls the trigger now, this will count as a full term and in his (and peter thiels) mind he thinks he'll win two full terms after Trump's done
Vance was a big Project 2025 guy, any presidential candidate would do, so long as they could win. As soon as Trump was the only possible path to make it happen, Vance was there for it.
So when trump called him up and said "You wanna be VP?" the respectable thing would have been to say "Yes, but not with you. I'm a never trump guy".
I disagree with this. The respectable thing would be to say yes, but also that you're not just going to be a yes-man. Take the role and push the administration in the right direction. Trump wouldn't accept this, so that would never happen, but it would be the best thing to do, but effectively it'd be saying no.
I guess an alternative is to say yes, wait until you're locked in, and then do the right thing and push back. I don't think there's any mechanism, besides impeachment or murder, to change the VP after the election. Get your foot in the door, and then shove the door open. Vance doesn't have the balls for this though, if he even actually disagrees with him. Him being anti-Trump was probably just a political move.
Keep in mind: the vast majority of this is reparations for bombing the shit out of the place, including the water supply (war crimes) and power generation (war crimes).
Remember, this is in addition to the billions of taxpayer dollars given to Lockheed, Raytheon, Boeing, General Dynamics, etc. to fund the killing of schoolgirls on the other side of the globe.
Aren't you glad that money wasn't squandered on something frivolous like healthcare instead?
Can we just take it all from Elon? I hear he just came into a bunch of money, and from the sounds of it, he had a big hand in this presidency happening.
Dont know what's with these posts without any sources. Even if its to a twitter or truth social, i want to know the source of the information, not a fucking photo
Did it distract from the Epstein Files? You just said it, and so did I. Not forgotten at all.
They are dumb ostriches who have buried their heads in the sand. They think that just because THEY have distracted THEMSELVES from the Trump-Epstein Files, we are, too, but we're not. We're all still talking about how Trump rapes children.
It's almost as if they don't even need to distract from the Epstein files, and the myopic people who think everything is a distraction from the Epstein files are wasting everyone's time.
Remember when Obama got the release of hostages from Iran for a measley $1.7 billion that we already owed them? And remember how Republicans lost their goddamn minds? This millennial remembers.
I could have sworn I saw that some small island nation basically goaded a bigger power to dispatch some nominal military force just so they could immediately surrender and be "conquered", much to the surprise of the military folks that were expecting hostility.
But I cannot find any reference, so either some video made it up and I fell for it, or I just can't find it.
It seems critically important to US that Iran not have nuclear weapon deterrent to US/Israel evil. The $300B will be funded by GCC which is $300B less they have to launder in US. It's mostly to ensure free SoH passage for them. Iran's deterrent for SoH is perhaps bigger than nuclear weapons. Boohoo dead IDF/IAF bases. But US devoted to no dead IDF/IAF bases, so all AIPAC in a flutter.
The only win tightrope for US empire, is keeping GCC vassalized. They exist only because US/Israel backed colour revolution to topple them is not used if they are fully devoted. US peace through GCC funding, is good for world and Iran. Americans need to push back against its zionazi 5th column, that doesn't want a peaceful Iran. As Trump justified at begining of war... this was OUR last best chance of defeating Iran. It failed catastrophically, but regrouping to do it again is just more expensive failure.
GCC $300B sweetner is extremely helpful for peace. A stronger Iran means more peace. They get incentivized to choose peace.
58 Comments
Spooge@lemmy.world · 81 pts · 53d
This is the equivalent of an NFL Linebacker trying to tackle a kindergartener, missing completely, hurting himself, and buying the kindergartner a Maserati.
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 28 pts · 53d
(The player also hurt the whole NFL team, doubled their debt, collapsed it's economic, some geopolitical alliances, it's petrodollar, etc - and that's just in relation to this one thing/war with the kindergartner.)
Spooge@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 53d
I'm not sure you know what an analogy is.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 53d
Ugh! Yes I do! It's like a eulogy but for your butt!
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 11 pts · 53d
Not to be confused with, or followed by, oralogy.
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 10 pts · 53d
You have analogy, sure, but what about extended analogy?
One can always build an analogy up until it collapses just for the fun of it!
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 47 pts · 53d
A deal as professional as it's maker.
I hope he will get reminded every day that he fucked this up completely and made a deal far worse than Obama got - without causing a war, too.
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 41 pts · 53d
You overestimate his ability to accept responsibility.
TRBoom@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 53d
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 52d
I know that this ability is zero.
TRBoom@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 53d
He's gonna flat out say that it was obama/biden that made this deal. 100% chance of that.
Airfried@piefed.social · 36 pts · 53d
This whole circus still made the Trump family richer with insider trading so it's a win for them. They don't care if the USA burns to the ground.
masterclass@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 52d
Because nominal wealth relative to natural capital is true wealth /s. Fuck the world!!
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 52d
Which gives us our path to punishment for their crimes. The money was all they cared about, so we'll be removing that from their lives. They won't be needing it in prison. Or in Hell, if that's where they end up after the trials.
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 52d
Oh you sweet summer child, the US is designed so that the oligarchs never face consequences for their actions. Think of what would happen to the share holders!
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 51d
We are not obligated to follow the old rules that got us to this point.
The ironic thing about MAGAs destruction of our governmental systems is that when MAGA gets kicked out, WE get to rebuild the government the way WE want it to be. It will be a unique opportunity for Democrats, and they can't squander it this time.
MrTolkinghoen@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 51d
They will
YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca · 31 pts · 53d
Vance has a look and stance of absolute defeat.
crusa187@lemmy.ml · 24 pts · 53d
This was the deal that was supposed to fuel his presidential run…tough milk crate to stand upon.
I suspect at this point he just wants some good ol’ couch time.
YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 53d
😂🛋️
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 53d
Serves him right. He has no morals. No class. No ethics. He spent a full election season saying he was a "Never trump guy". So when trump called him up and said "You wanna be VP?" the respectable thing would have been to say "Yes, but not with you. I'm a never trump guy".
He didn't do that. He said "YES SIR!!! WHERE ON YOUR ASS WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO KISS, SIR???"
And this is where he is today.
zebidiah@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 52d
They'll 25th Trump's ass as soon as it doesn't count as a presidential term for vance, if he pulls the trigger now, this will count as a full term and in his (and peter thiels) mind he thinks he'll win two full terms after Trump's done
jj4211@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 52d
Yeah, fully expect to see that February 2027 suddenly they decide Trump isn't fit for office.
jj4211@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 52d
Vance was a big Project 2025 guy, any presidential candidate would do, so long as they could win. As soon as Trump was the only possible path to make it happen, Vance was there for it.
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 52d
I disagree with this. The respectable thing would be to say yes, but also that you're not just going to be a yes-man. Take the role and push the administration in the right direction. Trump wouldn't accept this, so that would never happen, but it would be the best thing to do, but effectively it'd be saying no.
I guess an alternative is to say yes, wait until you're locked in, and then do the right thing and push back. I don't think there's any mechanism, besides impeachment or murder, to change the VP after the election. Get your foot in the door, and then shove the door open. Vance doesn't have the balls for this though, if he even actually disagrees with him. Him being anti-Trump was probably just a political move.
prole@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 52d
I honestly wish he would do the world s favor and just kill himself.
eatCasserole@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 53d
It's actually kind of a hilarious picture, now that I've zoomed in.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 25 pts · 53d
Keep in mind: the vast majority of this is reparations for bombing the shit out of the place, including the water supply (war crimes) and power generation (war crimes).
It's not paying; it's paying back.
BenLeMan@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 53d
Remember, this is in addition to the billions of taxpayer dollars given to Lockheed, Raytheon, Boeing, General Dynamics, etc. to fund the killing of schoolgirls on the other side of the globe.
Aren't you glad that money wasn't squandered on something frivolous like healthcare instead?
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip · 23 pts · 53d
Can we just take it all from Elon? I hear he just came into a bunch of money, and from the sounds of it, he had a big hand in this presidency happening.
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 14 pts · 52d
Y-Huygeuh tremundus winning like yuve neva seen before in the hishtorreé of eyeballs bevore 👐
Eternal192@anarchist.nexus · 14 pts · 53d
This is what happens when dumb and dumber are in charge.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 52d
If he was a CEO he'd be brought up on charges by the shareholders.
jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 53d
id wait for the actual text to come out. reuter's claims otherwise.
Zirconium@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 53d
Dont know what's with these posts without any sources. Even if its to a twitter or truth social, i want to know the source of the information, not a fucking photo
D_C@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 52d
*tRUMP-Epstein war.
frank@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 53d
The war was a huge success for Trump though. It distracted from his Epstein Files and he made some insider trades so he got richer. Win/win!
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 52d
Did it distract from the Epstein Files? You just said it, and so did I. Not forgotten at all.
They are dumb ostriches who have buried their heads in the sand. They think that just because THEY have distracted THEMSELVES from the Trump-Epstein Files, we are, too, but we're not. We're all still talking about how Trump rapes children.
prole@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 52d
It's almost as if they don't even need to distract from the Epstein files, and the myopic people who think everything is a distraction from the Epstein files are wasting everyone's time.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 52d
Have you heard that Trump rapes children? It's in the Epstein Files. Spread the word.
We can play that game, too.
NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 52d
Remember when Obama got the release of hostages from Iran for a measley $1.7 billion that we already owed them? And remember how Republicans lost their goddamn minds? This millennial remembers.
chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 53d
You're welcome, Iran.
adhdsergio@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 52d
I think everybody knows he operates under a Trump First agenda
iocase@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 52d
My favorite JD Vance channel
WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social · 4 pts · 52d
Dozy Don looks fucked.
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 53d
I should start a war with America
EDIT: Wait, did I just say that out loud?
EDIT 2: I mean... look... easy money, right?
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 52d
That's the plot of The Mouse That Roared. Some small country declares war, so they can lose and get the big country to rebuild their entire nation.
jj4211@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 52d
I could have sworn I saw that some small island nation basically goaded a bigger power to dispatch some nominal military force just so they could immediately surrender and be "conquered", much to the surprise of the military folks that were expecting hostility.
But I cannot find any reference, so either some video made it up and I fell for it, or I just can't find it.
wildcardology@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 52d
How about America NEVER!
fizzle@quokk.au · 2 pts · 53d
"We really got torn a new asshole here but the way we're going to spin it is to just say that it's a really great outcome."
godsammitdam@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 53d
Is the jaw dropping sum including deporting the Trump family and the administration and the republican party and establishment democrats to Iran?
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 52d
Right, like they want him.
godsammitdam@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 52d
I'm sure they have ideas of what to do with him after the war crimes he's commited against them.
pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 53d
Link to the article: https://newrepublic.com/post/211826/jd-vance-us-pay-iran-billions-trump-deal
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 52d
It seems critically important to US that Iran not have nuclear weapon deterrent to US/Israel evil. The $300B will be funded by GCC which is $300B less they have to launder in US. It's mostly to ensure free SoH passage for them. Iran's deterrent for SoH is perhaps bigger than nuclear weapons. Boohoo dead IDF/IAF bases. But US devoted to no dead IDF/IAF bases, so all AIPAC in a flutter.
The only win tightrope for US empire, is keeping GCC vassalized. They exist only because US/Israel backed colour revolution to topple them is not used if they are fully devoted. US peace through GCC funding, is good for world and Iran. Americans need to push back against its zionazi 5th column, that doesn't want a peaceful Iran. As Trump justified at begining of war... this was OUR last best chance of defeating Iran. It failed catastrophically, but regrouping to do it again is just more expensive failure.
GCC $300B sweetner is extremely helpful for peace. A stronger Iran means more peace. They get incentivized to choose peace.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 52d
Wonder if Iran will turn it into a business opportunity in the long run...
eletes@sh.itjust.works · -3 pts · 52d
Will they actually be stronger? I thought we bombed a lot of their navy and anti aircraft?
DillDough@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 52d
The US lost way more military resources than Iran in this conflict. We sure did cause a lot of damage to their citizens though.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 52d
Mostly just children's schools and hospitals.