I knew a guy like this. He said he didn't like sunflower seeds for the same reason he didn't like shrimp. "Too crunchy". Apparently he was eating the shell and all of both of these things...
I had the opposite experience eating pomegranate the first time. So fucking delicious, but the pips were an unsettling crunch/texture that I couldn't get over. However, it's too much work to remove the pulp from the pips, so no fresh pomegranate for me. :(
The way I eat pomegranate is like popcorn meets sunflower seeds.
Take a few of the pearls, pop them in my mouth, break the water balloon with gentle chewing that doesn't break the seed, suck out the juice, spit the seed. Sometimes I’ll fidget and peel the pulp off with my teeth, is not much, but it’s a nice mindless activity to occupy my brain
Pom is a flavored water fruit rather than a chew and swallow fruit. You don’t miss much leaving the pulp behind (and I'm not talking about the white rind) because theres not much of it to begin with. Its ideal for brainless time like watching movies. The prep is pretty easy, too, since the pearls tend to fall off pretty easily into a bowl, perfect for mindless snacking.
You can always collect the juice, or just buy it. Pomegranate is great, but it's mostly just juice with seeds. Orange is very different than orange juice, for example, but pomegranate isn't.
Okay but a properly fried shrimp is peak with the shell on. Good snappy crunch to it, they help hold the flavor in, wonderful. And for tails I usually don't even care how they're cooked I just go ahead and eat the tails shell in saves a lot of hassle and they're pretty good
At least you didn't know that wasn't the social norm. Eating sunflower seeds whole is like swallowing splinters and causes constipation. As for shrimp, it's just an unpleasant chew as far as I'm concerned.
Nah I confirmed. He was just tossing them in his mouth and eating them whole. This is how the conversation came to be in the first place. He was a work friend and I offered him some sunflower seeds and he said "nah man too crunchy" and that unravelled the whole thing. He was a pretty sheltered guy, eating mostly processed garbage and nobody cooked in his house growing up. He was a nice guy just pretty oblivious at times. I once got him to eat one of those Airborne capsules you put in water and drink as a chewable.
Do any of those languages actually have a rule that you're supposed to put a dot in the middle of "et," though? It'd be pretty weird if they did because "et" is one word...
"e.t.c." makes about as much sense as "a.n.d. other things."
(At least the old-fashioned English way of doing it, with a ligature connecting the e and t like so: "&c" was somewhat reasonable.)
My protein shakes when I worked out were some kind of milk, yogurt, protein powder, creatin, frozen berries, and a banana if I had them. If I wasn't in a rush at least.
My father likes to tell this tale of when he made fried spaghetti because he was a poor student and his buddy liked it so much that he asked how to make them. My father replied "Like normal spaghetti. But you fry them in a pan."
That's what he did. Instead of cooking he fried the dry spaghetti in a pan.
It's not that it's difficult, it's easy to drop frozen peas in hot oil. It's just that doing so would explode hot oil (and peas) all over yourself and your kitchen.
Going in another direction, but ramen is great if you fry it after boiling it. Just drain the water (save it if it's a broth type as you can add the noodles back after frying), then drop them in a pan with heated oil, fry them for a few minutes, just to the point where the noodles on the bottom start to burn a bit (don't stir them before this but do stir after to interrupt the burning) and your ramen will have a satisfying crunch.
Buldak ramen is intended to be prepared like that and comes with a thick sauce you add during the fry instead of the boil. Their curry flavour one is amazing, though hard to find.
tbf, ignorance is something you giggle at once, before getting over it and educating them. Hopefully OP and their friend got over it and managed some actual change
No, it's just ignorance. Expecting the name to be literally accurate is completely understandable. Unashamedly pointing and laughing just makes you a dick.
Belongs in the category of things you know once somebody told you. I think we all have little things that nobody has ever taught us and everyone else knows.
Me too! When I was a kid, my grandmother would give me a little bowl of frozen peas and corn to snack on. Now I give my kids the same and they strongly prefer them cold.
I work with a kid who really likes cold sensations in his mouth (autism, this kind of experience isn't uncommon.) At snack time he eats frozen peas and frozen blueberries.
Which is why when I recently cooked with frozen peas, I tried a few before cooking. I get it, I'm a fan of peas and the novel texture of them being frozen was interesting. I didn't love it enough to make a new snack out of it, but you're right - you never know until you try.
Well at least anon was nutritionmaxxing, because frozen fruits and vegetables have higher content in nutrients than those stored at room temperature. Not cooking them also keeps a lot of the good stuff intact. But please go ahead and cook and eat vegetables and fruit regardless of temperature. Because it's more important to have plenty of them regularly in your diet and the nutrition differences barely matter.
Furthermore, although somewhat funny post, there are way too many people who don't know how to cook even basic stuff. This is bad. For them, their health, finances, and independence, and a shame on a societal level.
Legitimately I've snacked on frozen veggies in the hot summer. Anyways, just get all your macros and take in fewer calories than you burn and you'll lose weight.
Totally gay, because office bro was totally hoping to get some booty.
But damn if I can't believe this is true. I've met people that are that unaware of that kind of thing. Shit, I once had to teach a 76 year old man how to operate a can opener because up until then, his wife had done all kitchen stuff.
I started the case maybe two weeks before and had been doing the meal prep because home health. One morning, I show up and my man is stabbing at the top of a can with an old butcher knife. I freak out a little because, damn, dude needs a nurse's assistant, so an already less than ideal tool was crazy dangerous. Also, dude had decided to ignore the nicely arranged food I had cooked the day before, which is story in itself.
So I dig through the drawers and find a shitty old can opener. Show him how to use it, and Bob's your uncle. Mostly.
Dude wasn't senile, believe it or not. Just not the brightest crayon in the box and woefully a product of his generation. Nice guy though! Not always the case on a case.
I swear some people act so fucking alien about life, like they had not learned some of the most basic things, or lack what you would consider to be the most obvious social skills.
I think some families just royally fucked up their kids heads growing up.
No, they just didn't have your life. or your standards, or your 'skills'.
I grew up working-class, and upper middle class people think my social skills are shit, because I'm not endlessly passive-aggressive like they are. I have no issue communicating with with other working-class people, but upper class people think I'm a social freak because I speak my mind directly, which to them is an impossible idea. Of course, I can code switch and out passive-aggressive them and they think i'm very respectable and intelligent... but it's just fucking stupid and pointless to me. So I generally I just don't bother to ineract with them or I act stupid because I don't want to spend 15m listening to them about 'how to respect public space' when they are just pissed off my friend parked in front of their house on public street parking and they are upset because they think it is 'their' parking space, when legally it isn't.
It's almost as if we have entirely different ideas of what 'social skills' are. I think a selfish cunt is a cunt, no matter how politely they frame their discussion as one of 'public interest and being neighborly'. They think anyone who doesn't respect their passive aggressive flavor of being a cunt is destroying the social order of society. And where I come from, being neighborly is getting the fuck over yourself and not trying to claim a public street is your personal property that nobody else can use without your permission.
Peas and carrots are too full of sugar. I mean, they’re better than chips or candy bars by a long shot, but minimizing them or mixing peas and carrots with other less sugary veg is a better idea.
Edit: triggered people who somehow think I said you can’t eat peas and carrots. Whatever. SJW away.
No. Health obsessed people are mostly obsessed with feeling superior to others based on diet, so they won't ever stop shaming anyone who eats differently than they do. They are projecting their insecurity with themselves, and they are so insecure eating some peas might as well by drinking 2L of soda per day, because they are unable to contextualize anything appropriately, and just panic over every slightly 'wrong' thing someone else does.
Same with politics or a hobby, or anything else people seek personal validation in. Anyone who doesn't do it exactly the way they do it is invalidating them and it hurts them and they lash out.
You do understand all sugar isn't created equal, yes? And sugar interacts with other components of a given food? Carbs don't exist in a vacuum. You're comparing actual whole foods to literal trash.
Please educate yourself and also stop spreading bullshit.
No, they are actually correct about the effects of starchy vegetables. They have some benefits - like carrots having beta-carotene, but they are about as unhealthy as refined grains are. Maybe slightly worse. Their consumption should be kept on the lower side, and their detriments can be mitigated or even canceled out by being eaten in the same meal as other high fiber whole foods and sources of unsaturated fats.
Adding to this, because despite the kneejerk reactions, you're pretty correct on this one. Carrots and peas are both more on the high starch side, not quite as high fiber as other plant foods. So basically you can think of them as being in the same category as potatoes. Starchy vegetables are actually more strongly associated with unhealthy aging than even refined grains.
And like you said, this isn't to demonize them. They still have a place in any reasonable diet, it's just a good idea to be aware of the need for balance with other more beneficial foods like fruit, vegetables, whole grains, sources of unsaturated fats, legumes, and nuts and seeds.
The kneejerk reactions are justified IMO. You don't need to "minimize" peas and carrots to have a healthy diet. Obviously they shouldn't be all you eat, but that holds for pretty much all foods - balance is key.
There's several issues with your source.
First, it would have been nice of you to link to the relevant figure so others aren't forced to comb through the whole thing.
Second, it's important to point out that this data only shows correlation. The data is interesting for sure, but one should be cautious about demonizing a particular food group based on this alone, considering that the main point of the study was to analyze the health benefits of particular diets rather than food groups.
(note also that fast/fried foods got a positive score, which makes me further apprehensive about drawing quick conclusions from this data)
Third, this study focused on health professionals only. I don't know why it shouldn't generalize to the general population but it is not a given that it does.
Most importantly, it is not clear (to me at least) that peas and carrots are part of the category "starchy vegetables" according to this study. I couldn't find any explicit description of the categories, please let me know if there is one in the study or one of its sources.
From what I could find online, peas can be considered starchy vegetables, but carrots usually aren't.
For instance, this site classifies both carrots and some types of peas as non-starchy.
Tell me you're white without telling me you're white.
No shade to fair folks who are fair cooks, but I ain't never seen a person with melanin who does not know that cooked veggies are a thing. It's always the pigmentally challenged.
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BeUnique@lemmy.zip · 124 pts · 47d
I knew a guy like this. He said he didn't like sunflower seeds for the same reason he didn't like shrimp. "Too crunchy". Apparently he was eating the shell and all of both of these things...
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 36 pts · 47d
I had that experience with lychees. Nobody told me you weren't supposed to eat the crunchy center!
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 47d
I had the opposite experience eating pomegranate the first time. So fucking delicious, but the pips were an unsettling crunch/texture that I couldn't get over. However, it's too much work to remove the pulp from the pips, so no fresh pomegranate for me. :(
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 7 pts · 47d
Its not bad once you realize the structure of the pomegranate. It also helps if you leave it in the refrigerator.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 47d
I'd love advice for being able to enjoy a pomegranate. Does the pulp peel off the pip better if it's cold?
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 7 pts · 47d
Yes, it also helps if theyre not overripe. The secret is knowing where to pull so an entire section of pulp or pips pulls away.
ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 47d
The way I eat pomegranate is like popcorn meets sunflower seeds.
Take a few of the pearls, pop them in my mouth, break the water balloon with gentle chewing that doesn't break the seed, suck out the juice, spit the seed. Sometimes I’ll fidget and peel the pulp off with my teeth, is not much, but it’s a nice mindless activity to occupy my brain
Pom is a flavored water fruit rather than a chew and swallow fruit. You don’t miss much leaving the pulp behind (and I'm not talking about the white rind) because theres not much of it to begin with. Its ideal for brainless time like watching movies. The prep is pretty easy, too, since the pearls tend to fall off pretty easily into a bowl, perfect for mindless snacking.
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 47d
You can always collect the juice, or just buy it. Pomegranate is great, but it's mostly just juice with seeds. Orange is very different than orange juice, for example, but pomegranate isn't.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 47d
Did he like bananas?
snoons@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 47d
You take of the skin? Such a waste.. that's where all the electrolytes are.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 7 pts · 47d
It's what plants crave.
musubibreakfast@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 47d
No, but he loved coconuts
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 47d
Crunchy!
ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 47d
Okay but a properly fried shrimp is peak with the shell on. Good snappy crunch to it, they help hold the flavor in, wonderful. And for tails I usually don't even care how they're cooked I just go ahead and eat the tails shell in saves a lot of hassle and they're pretty good
snoons@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 47d
Also a good source of [compound that lubricates your joints].
Zarobi@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 47d
Mmmm bone lube
Tommelot@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 47d
Olive oil
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 47d
Depends on the shrimp.
acockworkorange@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 45d
Smaller ones are good. Bigger ones have tougher shells, no bueno.
Pandasdontfly@anarchist.nexus · 4 pts · 47d
For most of my life I willingly ate them shell and all
BeUnique@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 46d
At least you didn't know that wasn't the social norm. Eating sunflower seeds whole is like swallowing splinters and causes constipation. As for shrimp, it's just an unpleasant chew as far as I'm concerned.
TIEPilot@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 41d
I have always eaten sunflower seeds and peanuts w/ the shell on. I know the other way, but I prefer them shell on.
Cleanest colon in the lower 48
zaphod@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 47d
But that's how you eat sunflower seeds. You don't chew or swallow the shell, but you put it in your mouth and crack it with your teeth.
BeUnique@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 47d
Nah I confirmed. He was just tossing them in his mouth and eating them whole. This is how the conversation came to be in the first place. He was a work friend and I offered him some sunflower seeds and he said "nah man too crunchy" and that unravelled the whole thing. He was a pretty sheltered guy, eating mostly processed garbage and nobody cooked in his house growing up. He was a nice guy just pretty oblivious at times. I once got him to eat one of those Airborne capsules you put in water and drink as a chewable.
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 48 pts · 47d
I won't dog on them since the context implies this is ESL, but seeing "etc." punctuated as though it's an acronym is unholy.
TwilightKiddy@programming.dev · 21 pts · 47d
Why did you have to point it out? I didn't even notice until you did!
grue@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 47d
If their first language is a Romance language it still isn't an excuse, because "etc" comes from the Latin.
sukhmel@programming.dev · 2 pts · 47d
But punctuation rules might be very different, e.g. in Spanish ordinal numerals are supposed to have a dot to denote that it's a contraction: 1.º
Nowadays this seems to die down, but it still is in the rules:
https://www.rae.es/buen-uso-espa%C3%B1ol/los-ordinales
grue@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 47d
Do any of those languages actually have a rule that you're supposed to put a dot in the middle of "et," though? It'd be pretty weird if they did because "et" is one word...
"e.t.c." makes about as much sense as "a.n.d. other things."
(At least the old-fashioned English way of doing it, with a ligature connecting the e and t like so: "&c" was somewhat reasonable.)
sukhmel@programming.dev · 1 pts · 46d
No, it's not that bad 😅
Zarobi@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 47d
Extra Truncated Cases
RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip · 43 pts · 47d
Yeah this is silly and cringe but eating frozen fruits while they're still frozen is amazing.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 46d
They are better while they are still frozen. Love me a bowl of frozen mixed berries, even worth the seeds that stick in the teeth.
Simulation6@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 46d
If you have a good blender frozen fruit is great with some soy milk. Makes a nice smoothie.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 46d
My protein shakes when I worked out were some kind of milk, yogurt, protein powder, creatin, frozen berries, and a banana if I had them. If I wasn't in a rush at least.
cheat700000007@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 46d
Especially banana
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de · 35 pts · 47d
My father likes to tell this tale of when he made fried spaghetti because he was a poor student and his buddy liked it so much that he asked how to make them. My father replied "Like normal spaghetti. But you fry them in a pan."
That's what he did. Instead of cooking he fried the dry spaghetti in a pan.
Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 24 pts · 47d
tbf this exsists
https://bakinghermann.com/spaghetti-allassassina-italian-killer-spaghetti/
prex@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 47d
...and is awesome.
sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 47d
Ok I'm going to attempt that
Widdershins@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 47d
My dad tried frying frozen peas once. Turned the kitchen into Viet goddamn Nam. I still have flashbacks.
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de · 2 pts · 47d
I actually love frozen peas because they can easily be thrown into whatever I'm currently making. Especially something like fried rice.
Of course, just frying them alone is probably pretty difficult.
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 46d
It's not that it's difficult, it's easy to drop frozen peas in hot oil. It's just that doing so would explode hot oil (and peas) all over yourself and your kitchen.
diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 47d
Italians also do it. Although they put tomatoes in and smash them first.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 46d
Going in another direction, but ramen is great if you fry it after boiling it. Just drain the water (save it if it's a broth type as you can add the noodles back after frying), then drop them in a pan with heated oil, fry them for a few minutes, just to the point where the noodles on the bottom start to burn a bit (don't stir them before this but do stir after to interrupt the burning) and your ramen will have a satisfying crunch.
RBWells@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 46d
Wait, so these are noodles fried, boiled, and then fried again?
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 46d
Buldak ramen is intended to be prepared like that and comes with a thick sauce you add during the fry instead of the boil. Their curry flavour one is amazing, though hard to find.
Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 47d
tbf, ignorance is something you giggle at once, before getting over it and educating them. Hopefully OP and their friend got over it and managed some actual change
blarghly@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 47d
Yes, but also... bruh...
M137@lemmy.today · -4 pts · 46d
This isn't ignorance, it's pure idiocy.
PuddleOfKittens@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 46d
"Eat some frozen peas!"
"Ew WTF why are your frozen peas frozen?"
No, it's just ignorance. Expecting the name to be literally accurate is completely understandable. Unashamedly pointing and laughing just makes you a dick.
craftrabbit@lemmy.zip · 24 pts · 47d
Belongs in the category of things you know once somebody told you. I think we all have little things that nobody has ever taught us and everyone else knows.
Simulation6@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 46d
There are always cooking directions on the bags.
Glowstick@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 47d
I love frozen fruit and veg! If you've never tried it then don't knock it
NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 47d
Me too! When I was a kid, my grandmother would give me a little bowl of frozen peas and corn to snack on. Now I give my kids the same and they strongly prefer them cold.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 47d
I work with a kid who really likes cold sensations in his mouth (autism, this kind of experience isn't uncommon.) At snack time he eats frozen peas and frozen blueberries.
Which is why when I recently cooked with frozen peas, I tried a few before cooking. I get it, I'm a fan of peas and the novel texture of them being frozen was interesting. I didn't love it enough to make a new snack out of it, but you're right - you never know until you try.
Glowstick@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 47d
Try frozen fruit. Dude, so good. Frozen cherries, frozen pineapple, frozen mango, mmmmm
sukhmel@programming.dev · 2 pts · 47d
Yeah, frozen peas sounds pretty edible and even nice for current weather
Zacryon@feddit.org · 17 pts · 46d
Well at least anon was nutritionmaxxing, because frozen fruits and vegetables have higher content in nutrients than those stored at room temperature. Not cooking them also keeps a lot of the good stuff intact. But please go ahead and cook and eat vegetables and fruit regardless of temperature. Because it's more important to have plenty of them regularly in your diet and the nutrition differences barely matter.
Furthermore, although somewhat funny post, there are way too many people who don't know how to cook even basic stuff. This is bad. For them, their health, finances, and independence, and a shame on a societal level.
Zephyr@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 47d
Legitimately I've snacked on frozen veggies in the hot summer. Anyways, just get all your macros and take in fewer calories than you burn and you'll lose weight.
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 47d
Totally gay, because office bro was totally hoping to get some booty.
But damn if I can't believe this is true. I've met people that are that unaware of that kind of thing. Shit, I once had to teach a 76 year old man how to operate a can opener because up until then, his wife had done all kitchen stuff.
I started the case maybe two weeks before and had been doing the meal prep because home health. One morning, I show up and my man is stabbing at the top of a can with an old butcher knife. I freak out a little because, damn, dude needs a nurse's assistant, so an already less than ideal tool was crazy dangerous. Also, dude had decided to ignore the nicely arranged food I had cooked the day before, which is story in itself.
So I dig through the drawers and find a shitty old can opener. Show him how to use it, and Bob's your uncle. Mostly.
Dude wasn't senile, believe it or not. Just not the brightest crayon in the box and woefully a product of his generation. Nice guy though! Not always the case on a case.
terranoid@lemmy.cafe · 8 pts · 47d
I swear some people act so fucking alien about life, like they had not learned some of the most basic things, or lack what you would consider to be the most obvious social skills.
I think some families just royally fucked up their kids heads growing up.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 47d
No, they just didn't have your life. or your standards, or your 'skills'.
I grew up working-class, and upper middle class people think my social skills are shit, because I'm not endlessly passive-aggressive like they are. I have no issue communicating with with other working-class people, but upper class people think I'm a social freak because I speak my mind directly, which to them is an impossible idea. Of course, I can code switch and out passive-aggressive them and they think i'm very respectable and intelligent... but it's just fucking stupid and pointless to me. So I generally I just don't bother to ineract with them or I act stupid because I don't want to spend 15m listening to them about 'how to respect public space' when they are just pissed off my friend parked in front of their house on public street parking and they are upset because they think it is 'their' parking space, when legally it isn't.
It's almost as if we have entirely different ideas of what 'social skills' are. I think a selfish cunt is a cunt, no matter how politely they frame their discussion as one of 'public interest and being neighborly'. They think anyone who doesn't respect their passive aggressive flavor of being a cunt is destroying the social order of society. And where I come from, being neighborly is getting the fuck over yourself and not trying to claim a public street is your personal property that nobody else can use without your permission.
M137@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 46d
This is something an alien would do. It would perfectly fit as a scene in the Resident Alien series. And now I'm kinda disappointed it wasn't.
Psythik@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 46d
"Resident Alien Series"? Is that like a spinoff/knockoff of Third Rock from the Sun?
grue@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 47d
The bag (usually) has cooking instructions written on the it...
Ignorance I can forgive, but lack of curiosity is inexcusable.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 47d
Very in character for anon.
RBWells@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 46d
We live in a hot climate and all my kids loved to eat frozen corn, frozen. I could never cook it because if I bought a bag they would raid it.
ddplf@szmer.info · 1 pts · 46d
Someone of y'all sickos had to start it
clifmo@programming.dev · 4 pts · 46d
A lot of frozen vegetables are raw and require cooking to ensure safety
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · -11 pts · 47d
Peas and carrots are too full of sugar. I mean, they’re better than chips or candy bars by a long shot, but minimizing them or mixing peas and carrots with other less sugary veg is a better idea.
Edit: triggered people who somehow think I said you can’t eat peas and carrots. Whatever. SJW away.
rhymeswithduck@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 47d
Good grief, can we stop shaming people for eating the "wrong types of vegetables" as if that's even a thing? Just be happy they're eating any at all.
Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 47d
Things that cauliflower people say.
BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 47d
is this a racial slur for white people? 😂
Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 47d
No it's not, you Jerusalem artichoke.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 47d
No. Health obsessed people are mostly obsessed with feeling superior to others based on diet, so they won't ever stop shaming anyone who eats differently than they do. They are projecting their insecurity with themselves, and they are so insecure eating some peas might as well by drinking 2L of soda per day, because they are unable to contextualize anything appropriately, and just panic over every slightly 'wrong' thing someone else does.
Same with politics or a hobby, or anything else people seek personal validation in. Anyone who doesn't do it exactly the way they do it is invalidating them and it hurts them and they lash out.
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 47d
You do understand all sugar isn't created equal, yes? And sugar interacts with other components of a given food? Carbs don't exist in a vacuum. You're comparing actual whole foods to literal trash.
Please educate yourself and also stop spreading bullshit.
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net · 0 pts · 46d
No, they are actually correct about the effects of starchy vegetables. They have some benefits - like carrots having beta-carotene, but they are about as unhealthy as refined grains are. Maybe slightly worse. Their consumption should be kept on the lower side, and their detriments can be mitigated or even canceled out by being eaten in the same meal as other high fiber whole foods and sources of unsaturated fats.
SirHery@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 47d
Dam, better go eating drywall.
heartSagan5@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 47d
Dude, let’em eat vegetables they like. They can venture further without the gatekeeping; otherwise, they’ll say “why bother.”
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 46d
Adding to this, because despite the kneejerk reactions, you're pretty correct on this one. Carrots and peas are both more on the high starch side, not quite as high fiber as other plant foods. So basically you can think of them as being in the same category as potatoes. Starchy vegetables are actually more strongly associated with unhealthy aging than even refined grains.
And like you said, this isn't to demonize them. They still have a place in any reasonable diet, it's just a good idea to be aware of the need for balance with other more beneficial foods like fruit, vegetables, whole grains, sources of unsaturated fats, legumes, and nuts and seeds.
wols@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 46d
The kneejerk reactions are justified IMO. You don't need to "minimize" peas and carrots to have a healthy diet. Obviously they shouldn't be all you eat, but that holds for pretty much all foods - balance is key.
There's several issues with your source.
First, it would have been nice of you to link to the relevant figure so others aren't forced to comb through the whole thing.
Second, it's important to point out that this data only shows correlation. The data is interesting for sure, but one should be cautious about demonizing a particular food group based on this alone, considering that the main point of the study was to analyze the health benefits of particular diets rather than food groups.
(note also that fast/fried foods got a positive score, which makes me further apprehensive about drawing quick conclusions from this data)
Third, this study focused on health professionals only. I don't know why it shouldn't generalize to the general population but it is not a given that it does.
Most importantly, it is not clear (to me at least) that peas and carrots are part of the category "starchy vegetables" according to this study. I couldn't find any explicit description of the categories, please let me know if there is one in the study or one of its sources.
From what I could find online, peas can be considered starchy vegetables, but carrots usually aren't. For instance, this site classifies both carrots and some types of peas as non-starchy.
harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -12 pts · 47d
Tell me you're white without telling me you're white.
No shade to fair folks who are fair cooks, but I ain't never seen a person with melanin who does not know that cooked veggies are a thing. It's always the pigmentally challenged.
too_high_for_this@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 47d
Do you think it's okay to be racist as long as it's towards white people?