It's Count Binface. For now. I don't think that a peer can serve in the House of Commons, so I think that he might just have to give up his title and serve as Binface if elected.
"Count" is not a valid title in the British peerage. The equivalent rank in the UK is "earl". Though if he wins, I think it'd be a moment of immense cultural significance so he should immediately be elevated to the Lords as a life peer, just to make the title official. He can be Britain's only living count.
The Norman-derived equivalent count (from Latin comes) was not introduced following the Norman Conquest of England though countess was and is used for the female title. Geoffrey Hughes writes, "It is a likely speculation that the Norman French title 'Count' was abandoned in England in favour of the Germanic 'Earl' [...] precisely because of the uncomfortable phonetic proximity to cunt".[7]
I imagine that Count Binface simply doesn't fear such proximity.
Nope. But I did discover that is based in Serbia, and I felt that I couldn't recommend it based on that (e.g. if there were privacy issues, I'm not sold that the legal regimen would be strong enough for much to happen to the company).
Ironically, you've confused a conversation about odds with one about polls.
It's not about polls. We're talking about betting odds here. This is a gambling conversation. They said that Count Binface winning is paid 4:1, meaning an implied probability of 20%. I asked who is paying that, because it seems like that's far too low of a payout, giving Count Binface too high of an implied chance of winning.
If a candidate is being beat 4:1 in the polls, their betting odds would probably be 100:1 or higher.
You can bet with crypto on there so you don't have to actually give them your information because you can just use an anonymous crypto wallet. It used to be a lot better before it was commercialised. In the past, all the markets were fee-free, and it was just your typical degenerate crypto gambling site. Now they've started charging fees on most of the markets, and they advertise everywhere so it sucks. Now they're a for-profit enterprise or something and act exactly like any other scummy casino operator.
But the payouts are done algorithmically on the blockchain so you can be sure that winning bets are indeed actually paid.
You can use the Metamask browser extension. Polymarket runs on a token called USDC, which you can buy from Coinbase for US$1 a pop with no fee (and also sell it back for $1 for no fee).
I used to use Polymarket a lot because it was previously filled with crypto bros and MAGA idiots who would vastly overvalue stupid bets (like "Will Canada join the USA") and provide easy money. But I haven't used it for a while, so I don't know if that's the case any more.
Not something that I've looked into, but if there are multiple futures markets with substantially diverging odds, I'd imagine that one could arbitrage that by placing opposing bets on them and provide a guaranteed win.
That being said, not familiar with how the payouts are computed and updated on them or what the market operator takes.
He'll shirk back into his hole for two years and then pop back out as the leader of the new right-wing insurgent political party "Rejuvenate Britain" or something.
I read some speculation today that British election law might be interpreted to mean that if Jon Harvey wins the election as Count Binface, then he would not only be permitted to wear the Binface costume and persona while sitting in the house but he would be required to. Since it's Count Binface that the people chose and gave the mandate to, not some regular old human schlub named Jon Harvey.
Presumably there'd be nothing wrong with him taking it off when not on official business and having a secret identity that way, but for votes and whatnot he'd have to don the cape and bin.
That is incorrect. It is the person’s legal identity which counts. So at the result declaration, he is styled “Jonathan David Harvey, commonly known as Count Binface”
Clacton has never been an important place in history. For the most part, Clacton was an irrelevant back corner that nobody cared about.
The people of Clacton have been giften an unique opportunity to change that forever. If Clacton votes for the intergalactic space lord Count Binface, the name Clacton-on-Sea will never be forgotten.
It was a five minute interview on BBC Breakfast. I believe that other outlets wrote articles about it but I haven't looked for the video anywhere else. It popped up on my YouTube feed.
I set my hopes on Count Binface. Although if he actually wins, he will face an interesting challenge in parliament. As far I remember, hats (and probably helmets, too) are not allowed in the House.
I feel like his novelty would wear off if he actually appeared in Parliament. He'd probably be told that the costume won't be allowed and then become an abstentionist in protest.
Don't be pessimistic. Look up Martin Sonneborn, MEP. He got voted into the EU parliament in 2015 with his purely satirical party "Die PARTEI" and is still there, because he does a comparatively good job. While still being satirical.
But the decision was quickly dismissed by his usual sparring partners. The UK’s main political parties – the ruling Labour Party, the right-wing Conservative Party and the centrist Liberal Democrats – all announced they would boycott the Clacton vote.
What would happen to the election if Farage was the only candidate?
Pretty much, also means Farage can't claim that the people have shown they don't care about his money because he was voted in a second time.
What can happen is if Farage wins, the investigation continues and there's a very real chance he'll be suspended so another election will be called.
Each election costs about 450k of public money, so Count Binface can say that just by electing him and him doing literally nothing, he's saving the public nearly half a million quid.
Why isn't the HMRC investigating and taking money from him.
If I owe HMRC 50 pence they will fine me and want every penny but politicians can launder billions of pounds and not a peep from the scumbag HMRC.
Nothing in the article suggests Farrage is going to lose this election, or even that the stunt has failed per-say. He's still getting invites to TV shows in order to regurgitate is fascist agitprop. There's no indication that the Labour government will pursue prosecution in a way that would disqualify him from high office. And Reform UK remains poised to sweep Parliament regardless of the BinFace vanity campaign
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fubarx@lemmy.world · 203 pts · 42d
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 41d
It should say "B I N S"
NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 41d
Youraislopbores.me
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 164 pts · 42d
Binface has 4-1 odds to win, so there seems to be a very real chance he wins this election.
Which would be absolutely hilarious.
tal@lemmy.today · 82 pts · 42d
It's Count Binface. For now. I don't think that a peer can serve in the House of Commons, so I think that he might just have to give up his title and serve as Binface if elected.
NateNate60@lemmy.world · 69 pts · 42d
"Count" is not a valid title in the British peerage. The equivalent rank in the UK is "earl". Though if he wins, I think it'd be a moment of immense cultural significance so he should immediately be elevated to the Lords as a life peer, just to make the title official. He can be Britain's only living count.
tal@lemmy.today · 42 pts · 42d
searches
Hmm. Apparently in said system, the wife of an earl is a countess.
searches more
Ah.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl
I imagine that Count Binface simply doesn't fear such proximity.
slampisko@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 42d
To think we were this close to having Count Grey tea...
(nothing funny about it, just fun to imagine an alternative timeline)
tpyo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 41d
I'm going to take this opportunity to ask a very off topic question:
Did you give up kagi?
tal@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 41d
Nope. But I did discover that is based in Serbia, and I felt that I couldn't recommend it based on that (e.g. if there were privacy issues, I'm not sold that the legal regimen would be strong enough for much to happen to the company).
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 42d
One! One count binface! Ah ah ahhh! -- another count.
Wrufieotnak@feddit.org · 7 pts · 42d
Lot of cunts, only one count?
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 41d
But "viscount" is? What the hell kind of scam are they running over there?
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 41d
Hmmm... it seems there might be something off about this system of "nobility".
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 41d
But it's absolutely one on Sigma IX!
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 41d
Nor can he wear a bin on his face.
sns@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 49 pts · 42d
That's Count Binface!
NateNate60@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 42d
Who is offering 4:1 odds on Count Binface? The major betting markets have him at around 8% last I checked earlier today.
Edit: This is about gambling odds not polls
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 42d
https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/who-is-count-binface-nigel-farage-clacton-by-election-b3011663.html
Four to one is the odds I've seen quoted in the news, where can you get 8%? I'd take that bet for sure.
errer@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 42d
polymarket, for your depraved bets
RichardDegenne@lemmy.zip · 42 pts · 42d
Please, for the love of God, do not conflate prediction markets with polls.
NateNate60@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 42d
Ironically, you've confused a conversation about odds with one about polls.
It's not about polls. We're talking about betting odds here. This is a gambling conversation. They said that Count Binface winning is paid 4:1, meaning an implied probability of 20%. I asked who is paying that, because it seems like that's far too low of a payout, giving Count Binface too high of an implied chance of winning.
If a candidate is being beat 4:1 in the polls, their betting odds would probably be 100:1 or higher.
AccoSpoot1@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 42d
The majority of the general elections I have lived through (it's been a few) have been called more accurately by the bookies than the polls.
themaninblack@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 42d
They say people skip to the finance section of the paper for the actual news
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 42d
Well hey a bunch of news outlets have been doing that so why shouldn’t I?
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 42d
I'm currently wondering if I trust Polymarket with my data enough to take that bet, because he's definitely got better than 8% chance.
NateNate60@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 42d
You can bet with crypto on there so you don't have to actually give them your information because you can just use an anonymous crypto wallet. It used to be a lot better before it was commercialised. In the past, all the markets were fee-free, and it was just your typical degenerate crypto gambling site. Now they've started charging fees on most of the markets, and they advertise everywhere so it sucks. Now they're a for-profit enterprise or something and act exactly like any other scummy casino operator.
But the payouts are done algorithmically on the blockchain so you can be sure that winning bets are indeed actually paid.
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 42d
Now I need to work out how to use a crypto wallet. Or just use my actual name.
NateNate60@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 42d
You can use the Metamask browser extension. Polymarket runs on a token called USDC, which you can buy from Coinbase for US$1 a pop with no fee (and also sell it back for $1 for no fee).
I used to use Polymarket a lot because it was previously filled with crypto bros and MAGA idiots who would vastly overvalue stupid bets (like "Will Canada join the USA") and provide easy money. But I haven't used it for a while, so I don't know if that's the case any more.
tal@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 42d
Not something that I've looked into, but if there are multiple futures markets with substantially diverging odds, I'd imagine that one could arbitrage that by placing opposing bets on them and provide a guaranteed win.
That being said, not familiar with how the payouts are computed and updated on them or what the market operator takes.
Evotech@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 41d
The payout is whatever the opposition bets - a small cut
NateNate60@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 42d
Prediction markets and American bookmarkers are all offering over 10:1 on Count Binface right now. 9:2 is terrible IMO
Kushan@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 42d
SkyBet and paddy power.
herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 41d
How dare you disrecpect the Count by omitting his title! Learn manners peasant!
GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 90 pts · 42d
If Count Binface wins, he'll never be able to show his face in public again.
NateNate60@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 42d
He'll shirk back into his hole for two years and then pop back out as the leader of the new right-wing insurgent political party "Rejuvenate Britain" or something.
lazynooblet@lazysoci.al · 13 pts · 42d
Recycle Britain 🗑️
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 41d
Logo is a circular human centipede
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 41d
"Compost Britain"
Zombie@feddit.uk · 16 pts · 42d
Farage or Jon Harvey?
FaceDeer@fedia.io · 26 pts · 42d
I read some speculation today that British election law might be interpreted to mean that if Jon Harvey wins the election as Count Binface, then he would not only be permitted to wear the Binface costume and persona while sitting in the house but he would be required to. Since it's Count Binface that the people chose and gave the mandate to, not some regular old human schlub named Jon Harvey.
Presumably there'd be nothing wrong with him taking it off when not on official business and having a secret identity that way, but for votes and whatnot he'd have to don the cape and bin.
worhui@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 42d
Is there a nationality requirement for the position?
Count binface is not British, he is a space alien.
tal@lemmy.today · 18 pts · 42d
Why can't a space alien be British?
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 15 pts · 42d
I see someone has been watching Doctor Who.
MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 42d
Gilbert agrees!
The show for those who are curious.
worhui@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 42d
Hmmm… I’ll have to check in on binface lore.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 41d
That is incorrect. It is the person’s legal identity which counts. So at the result declaration, he is styled “Jonathan David Harvey, commonly known as Count Binface”
lostme@piefed.social · 1 pts · 42d
If Hartlepool is anything to go by, he can just take it off. I think he'd wear it anyways, if not always then at least occassionally
AccoSpoot1@lemmy.world · 83 pts · 42d
People of Clacton, do the funny thing please!
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 42d
Which is the right thing too.
AccoSpoot1@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 42d
Love it when that happens.
domusaltera@piefed.social · 19 pts · 42d
It's Boaty McBoatface time! 😁
elucubra@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 41d
Boaty McBoatface was a lame attempt. Google Boaty Mcboatface Blas de Lezo, which was actually the winner.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 40d
herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml · 55 pts · 41d
Clacton has never been an important place in history. For the most part, Clacton was an irrelevant back corner that nobody cared about.
The people of Clacton have been giften an unique opportunity to change that forever. If Clacton votes for the intergalactic space lord Count Binface, the name Clacton-on-Sea will never be forgotten.
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 41d
Clacton would also be the first place ruled by an intergalactic bin. A small step for bins. A tremendous leap for binkind
echodot@feddit.uk · 12 pts · 41d
Of course if Clapton hadn't voted for the joke candidate the first time around they wouldn't be in this position.
webkitten@piefed.social · 32 pts · 42d
harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 31 pts · 42d
The BBC interview with Count Binface yesterday was really good.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 41d
Can it be found somewhere outside BBC? I'd love to watch this!
harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 40d
It was a five minute interview on BBC Breakfast. I believe that other outlets wrote articles about it but I haven't looked for the video anywhere else. It popped up on my YouTube feed.
monkeyman76@fedinsfw.app · 29 pts · 42d
The title should have been: Farage, left, fighting a trash can.
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 41d
I think they could do some great campaigning with a little bit of real effort:
have people walking around campaigning for him dressed as binmen and cleaning up trash
some art work of binface overhead throwing farage into a bin, "clean up Clacton, bin Farage. Vote Binface"
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 41d
I set my hopes on Count Binface. Although if he actually wins, he will face an interesting challenge in parliament. As far I remember, hats (and probably helmets, too) are not allowed in the House.
TroublesomeTalker@feddit.uk · 13 pts · 41d
Sinn fein just don't turn up - can't he do the same?
NateNate60@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 41d
I feel like his novelty would wear off if he actually appeared in Parliament. He'd probably be told that the costume won't be allowed and then become an abstentionist in protest.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 41d
Don't be pessimistic. Look up Martin Sonneborn, MEP. He got voted into the EU parliament in 2015 with his purely satirical party "Die PARTEI" and is still there, because he does a comparatively good job. While still being satirical.
Mr_WorldlyWiseman@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 41d
A massive way to elevate his satire career, at least.
badgermurphy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 40d
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de · 27 pts · 42d
This is deliberate, isn't it? He wants people to think "Nigel’s a stunning cunt"? Good one
huppakee@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 41d
The one flaw in that plan: people end up seeing that face and realize he really isn't that stunning at all.
Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 41d
Yeah, just a cunt
tal@lemmy.today · 21 pts · 42d
Lord Buckethead (briefly) went on Last Week Tonight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyVz5vgqBhE&t=981
I feel like Count Binface should stop trying to dodge the international press and do so himself.
NateNate60@lemmy.world · 59 pts · 42d
Lord Buckethead and Count Binface are one and the same person, the actor had to stop using "Lord Buckethead" for IP reasons.
swab148@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 21 pts · 42d
Prog metal guitarist, for anyone wondering.
br3d@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 42d
In an interview, Harvey said it was Buckethead in SpaceBalls, the film, that was the issue
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 42d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperspace_(film)
Hyperspace, not space balls
br3d@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 41d
According to today's Guardian, we're both wrong and it's Gremloids
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 41d
Gremloids is the British name of Hyperspace
UniversalBasicJustice@quokk.au · 6 pts · 42d
Probably because Buckethead is an excellent guitarist and knew his name would provide an unfair advantage.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 41d
They’re different people now. Indeed, Buckethead and Binface ran against each other in 2019 in Uxbridge.
LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 40d
They weren't, then they were, then they weren't again.
mereo@piefed.ca · 18 pts · 42d
What would happen to the election if Farage was the only candidate?
NateNate60@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 42d
Then he's guaranteed to win and will be declared elected.
Psaldorn@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 42d
And the investigation into him by the ministerial will continue
mereo@piefed.ca · 18 pts · 42d
Ah, so this is to prevent any distractions from the investigation. Got it.
Kushan@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 42d
Pretty much, also means Farage can't claim that the people have shown they don't care about his money because he was voted in a second time.
What can happen is if Farage wins, the investigation continues and there's a very real chance he'll be suspended so another election will be called.
Each election costs about 450k of public money, so Count Binface can say that just by electing him and him doing literally nothing, he's saving the public nearly half a million quid.
Kintarian@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 40d
I’m sorry, not from the UK. Which one is the trash can?
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 40d
The one that has less trash in his head, obviously.
jaxxed@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 40d
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 41d
At least there's one candidate who isn't pretending it's not a clown show.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 15 pts · 42d
he will lose to heads of cabbages like most current PM of uk.
huppakee@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 41d
He would if they make him pm, but that's not what this is about lucky for him
ramenshaman@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 42d
This timeline is bonkers
Washi@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 41d
Why isn't the HMRC investigating and taking money from him. If I owe HMRC 50 pence they will fine me and want every penny but politicians can launder billions of pounds and not a peep from the scumbag HMRC.
spike4379@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 40d
corrupt piece of shit he is. Hope Count wins
hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 9 pts · 40d
let's hope the Count can kick the cunt to the kerb
metermatic26@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 41d
Clown vs. Clown = EPICNESS
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 41d
Putin not giving you enough money?
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 39d
I'm in with the Bin.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 40d
Nothing in the article suggests Farrage is going to lose this election, or even that the stunt has failed per-say. He's still getting invites to TV shows in order to regurgitate is fascist agitprop. There's no indication that the Labour government will pursue prosecution in a way that would disqualify him from high office. And Reform UK remains poised to sweep Parliament regardless of the BinFace vanity campaign