EA VP Urges Companies To Think About In-Game Ads During Development: ‘That’s A Huge Opportunity’
https://kotaku.com/ea-vp-urges-companies-to-think-about-in-game-ads-during-development-thats-a-huge-opportunity-2000716639
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otacon239@lemmy.world · 103 pts · 18d
To think there’s not a single billboard or radio ad in the Black Flag remake. All those missed opportunities…
B0NK3RS@lazysoci.al · 68 pts · 18d
Sea shanties of all your favourite radio ads.
dom@lemmy.ca · 37 pts · 18d
1 877 ships for kids
neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 32 pts · 18d
Oh oh oh o’rielly’s pirate ship parts.
lemmyng@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 18d
I HAVE DLC PAYMENT AND I NEED CASH NOW!
Triumph@fedia.io · 23 pts · 18d
If you or a loved one have scurvy, you may be entitled to compensation.
Apeman42@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 18d
I'm Wilford Brimley, and I have scurvy.
moopet@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 18d
Had an accident at sea that wasn't your fault?
scutiger@lemmy.world · 85 pts · 18d
I don't and won't play games with in-game ads. No matter how good they apparently are otherwise, I'll never know.
lobut@lemmy.ca · 26 pts · 18d
Only one I can justify is the EA sports games. Mainly because I refuse to play those games.
snooggums@piefed.world · 23 pts · 18d
Ads are not required for sports to be immersive.
BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk · 9 pts · 18d
But none intrusive banner ads is whatever, historically football games have included "fake ads" for charities and inclusion.
If that got changed to opt-in proper ads for a 10€ price deduction we'd be all ears
NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social · 21 pts · 18d
This is EA we are talking about, the "opportunity" is not to give the consumers a discount.
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 17d
I can't believe its a real representation of football without at least 8 paddy power ads.
lobut@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 17d
I was making a bad joke about they're expected in sports games but I just refuse to play EA sports games in general.
I dislike how they're all small iterations every year and filled with microtransactions.
brsrklf@jlai.lu · 10 pts · 18d
There are so few games I play in which ads would make sense. Hard to shoehorn a dorito ad in a fantasy universe or on a distant planet. I very much wouldn't welcome it.
There are a few odd cases I can remember, like freaking Tonic Trouble ages ago that was another Rayman-like from Ubisoft and power-ups in that game (in Europe) were crunch bars from a vending machine. Or back when I played Splatoon they did an event in which you had to fight for a brand of noodles or some shit.
Oh yeah, there's that absurd thing in Mario Kart 8 where they added 3 mercedes mini-cars out of nowhere. It's terrible but also so stupid it's a bit funny, especially since it's the only product placement they ever did in that game.
Zarobi@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 18d
Don't forget the Monster energy drink in Death Stranding…
I'm pretty sure 90% of Fortnight characters are an ad now. Every real car in driving games like Gran Turismo is licensed and an ad. DotA2 did a Monster Hunter collab, which are basically ads.
Honestly I don't even mind this kind of unintrusive ad. They can stay, and collabs can even be fun or enjoyable. That seems to be what they're mostly talking about, alongside branded consoles to bring prices down. Or adding sponsored DLC to older games to bring back interest and make side money at the same time.
I think that's the distinction here. If it's something that fits naturally into the game and it's part of the game, it's ok. We've had this for years and nobody is complaining about it. But if they're talking about animated banners or 30 second ad breaks between matches, they can fuck right off with that.
rozodru@piefed.world · 5 pts · 18d
it's not 90%, it's 100%. Whenever a new movie comes out or a tv show is popular or a musician releases a new album...whatever there will be an in game "event" and new skins in Fortnite. it's totally a free to play ad with microtransactions for said ads.
It's like cartoons of the 80s and early to mid 90s. the cartoons themselves were just ads for the toys. I mean hell the first Transformers movie in the 80s was just a massive commercial to introduce the new toyline by quite literally killing off the previous line. And I for one loved it.
brsrklf@jlai.lu · 3 pts · 18d
I mean is even Fortnite a game or a random Skinner box platform at this point? Can't remember the last time I saw someone mention its gameplay.
ohshit604@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 17d
I played Alan Wake (the first one) recently for the first time and was surprised to see Verizon billboards, Energizer batteries/flashlights and Lincoln cars in the game.
I personally didn’t mind it and treated it as an Easter egg opposed to an actual ad, if it were a pop-up or something that halted me in my place I would be annoyed sure but minor things like that kinda give it a bit of realism.
Note; I did want to link the Alan Wake x Energizer/Verizon/Lincoln collab here but then I got this pop-up on the first site that came up -
Pop-ups like this make me not want to use your product or service.
Edit; Kotaku didn’t care for my ad blocker so I’ll link them instead of fandom -
https://kotaku.com/alan-wake-remastered-is-ditching-the-energizer-batterie-1847658945
Zarobi@aussie.zone · 0 pts · 17d
It's very interesting that remakes and remasters seem to be stripping out the ads / in-game branding because the licensing expired or didn't extend to the remake of the same game. For example Death Stranding remake is also removing the Monster cans and replacing them with generic energy liquid. I'm not sure what that means exactly, but it is a thing.
kurcatovium@piefed.social · 2 pts · 17d
They surely won't let Monster get free ads, what are they? A charity? Either pay up or your cans get deleted!
Zarobi@aussie.zone · 0 pts · 17d
Drinkus deletus
TimothyOilypants@lemmy.ca · -2 pts · 17d
Bullshit. What do you play, Pitfall?
Advertising (which includes product placement) is so ubiquitous there's essentially zero chance you're avoiding it, you just don't notice it...
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 17d
Never heard of pitfall. My recently played games:
Rimworld, Factorio, CDDA, Quasimorph, Against the Storm, Highfleet, Vintage Story.
TimothyOilypants@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 17d
CDDA is full of real world brands...
paraphrand@lemmy.world · 58 pts · 18d
“Please normalize this and diffuse the backlash across the industry so it’s not just another thing people hate EA for.”
rozodru@piefed.world · 7 pts · 18d
Ubisoft: "Way ahead of you, fam!"
artyom@piefed.social · 50 pts · 18d
I never got into Android gaming because 90% of it is adware. If the PC landscape turns into this, you can bet your ass I'll stop playing that as well.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 26 pts · 18d
Well the beauty of PC is that you could always jump ship to another distributor/developer if one turns into shit.
EA is already there, so it's easy to play games from other devs instead XD
transarchistcuddleslut@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 19 pts · 18d
There are so many incredible indie games coming out these days too. Its just not worth buying the overpriced garbage big studios are trying con us into.
And if indie goes to shit too, we still have a solid 30 or so years of old games to play.
Tiger666@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 18d
Microslop enters the chat...
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 17d
LinuxDistros+Proton enters the chat...
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 17d
Not installed one of their products in almost 2 decades now
Mac@mander.xyz · 12 pts · 18d
I wont. There are thousands of good old games I've never played.
Katana314@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 17d
Nobody owns “The PC Landscape” though, that’s the beauty. Steam has a large share, but even that is not completely unbreachable.
artyom@piefed.social · -2 pts · 17d
No one owns the Android landscape either
Katana314@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 17d
For different reasons than usual, this comment deserves the reply: “Let me Google that for you”.
(Or: Epic/Fortnite would beg to differ)
artyom@piefed.social · -3 pts · 17d
Why don't you go ahead and do that and come back with some links.
minfapper@piefed.social · 3 pts · 17d
Here's a pretty important one:
https://keepandroidopen.org/
artyom@piefed.social · 0 pts · 17d
Reminds me which platform FDroid works on. And Obtainium. And Accrescent. And Epic Games Store. And Amazon store.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 18d
Games for android do exist that are good and bought outright. But not nearly as many as the other junk that's out there.
For PC when I think ads in games I think sports games like ads in NHL rink boards and burnout paradise city.
artyom@piefed.social · 6 pts · 18d
I know they exist but I can't be bothered to sort through the mountains of garbage to find them.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 17d
Definitely. Most I got were ones that I played on PC and had no idea android ones existed. Balatro is a good example. Knights of own and paper. And others.
BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk · 30 pts · 18d
This has been a hot topic among AAA developers for a long ass time. Steam is setting certain requirements, such as engagement with advertisements may not be forced - But product placement that fits within the world is fine
https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/marketing/advertising
Maestro@fedia.io · 21 pts · 18d
I wonder if that is one of the reasons the original Death Stranding isn't available on Steam anymore. The healing items in that game are cans of Monster Energy. Totally out of place in a far futuristic post-apocalyptic world. And interaction is forced (can't progress without drinking a can)
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 28 pts · 18d
"Drink the confirmation can now"
moopet@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 18d
I understood this reference.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 16d
Good job, Captain America! 👍🏼
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 10 pts · 18d
Metal Gear Solid 5 also has product placement with fashion items like RayBan sunglasses and shit. I think the two biggest reasons DS is only available with the Director's Cut is that the license agreement for the product placement ran out, and fans also generally hated that particular aspect more than any other issues the game itself had.
Maestro@fedia.io · 4 pts · 18d
I hated it too. I got the original DS for free on Epic. When the Monster Energy came up, I ragequit and uninstalled the game. I have no interest to try the Director's Cut or DS2
alakey@piefed.social · 1 pts · 18d
Monster cans haven't been in the game for a while now, because the deal expired.
Ok_imagination@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 18d
I've sworn off game companies for less.
Tamps@feddit.uk · 24 pts · 18d
Person who has developed a service to put ads in games says companies should think about putting ads in games.
Jaysyn@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 17d
Once again, my decades long boycott of EA is paying off.
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 17d
Mine isn't even an active boycott. I just don't care at all for anything they make.
bss03@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 17d
Public statements like this is why EA continually wins "Worst Company" over real assholes like Blackrock.
Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip · 19 pts · 18d
Do these execs really not grasp how many sales they slowly bleed by making modern triple A games unbearable...? Like they don't actually have a captive audience, people can and do just play indie and old games instead.
Making games genuinely unbearable and pissing everyone off seems like such an obviously bad business decision, but being a VP requires being dumb as a brick I guess
GenosseFlosse@feddit.org · 4 pts · 17d
Dost matter, they only estimate the pice of the game vs price of the game plus ad revenue, adjusted for maybe 5% missed sales. The highest number wins.
weaselsrippedmyflesh@piefed.social · 17 pts · 18d
What happened, EA? Did five minutes already pass before you gave everyone something to hate about your greedy, corporate, pulseless guts?
I swear, nobody can have any hobbies nowadays without execs enshittifying everything.
AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 17d
Advertising is brainwashing and should be illegal globally. No more ads!
There are better ways to finance stuff.
Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 17d
I'm all for it. Everywhere there's space for an ad to be blended into the background of the game to subliminally market to me should be utilized to its fullest.
The games will be free, right? The ads are what pays for it, right?
TimothyOilypants@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 17d
There are more people making independent video games today than at any point in history.
I just don't understand the all-or-nothing perspective that video game social media pundits have.
Personally, I absolutely prefer indie art films generally, but my preference doesn't mean that Michael Bay blockbusters shouldn't exist, or that Universal Pictures should go out of business...
Not everything needs to be for everyone, and most things created aren't created for ME.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 18d
They've been saying this for 20 years.
billwashere@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 17d
The whole point of my favorite games, especially the single player versions, is the escapism. The “I do not want to think about the current world or its problems”. You start throwing ads in the game, that aspect is completely removed. I will never play a game that has this in it. Walking through Tamriel and some fucking beverage or mobile game pops up and I’m gonna fire bomb some game execs million dollar house.
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 18d
Im fine if they actually fit the game. But this means they are basically limited to games that are only set in the real world. I actually liked seeing the Old Spice and Nokia billboards in NFS Underground 2, and seeing them now is an even bigger reminder of the time the game came out. Or the random products in Kojima games.
But seeing real world product ads in games like Halo or Dark Souls? No thanks. I can't see how you add those to the world and make them feel like part of the game world.
moopet@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 18d
Kind of. Like racing games where they have banners all round the track? I get that it's "realistic", but why should we settle for that, when games are supposed to be escapism, better than life? Having ads in games just because they're in real life is normalising in a bad way.
The only ads I like in games are the pets-by-mail type.
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 18d
Guess we can't have real life cars then either, right?
Putting real life cars into racing games, real life athletes into sports games, etc. its only purpose is advertising. There is no other reason than advertising to include any brand logo or product from real life into a video game.
mlg@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 17d
The funny thing is they did used to do this back in the day with games like Crazy Taxi. It was a decent way to get some development funds as well.
They stopped doing it because I think it was too hard to gauge how much of am effect it actually had.
Knowing EA, they're probably thinking about unskippable slop and not franchising ingame universe with billlboards and locations lol.
otacon239@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 17d
It was a hell of an effective advertisement on me for The Offspring.
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 17d
YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAHHH
Bougie_Birdie@piefed.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 17d
Honestly I'm for it. I hope all the major players adopt this so we can watch the pillars of the gaming industry collapse.
From the wreckage will be a renaissance of developers whose priority in making games is that they're good.
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 18d
Putting Dao's personal cell phone number and other contact info on the back of every in-game billboard with a real ad would be a nice Easter egg.
greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 18d
I thought EA had already been doing this with need for speed all the way back in Xbox 360 times?
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 17d
"This Ring of Fire Resistance should protect you, Sir Bolden. And you know who else can protect you? State Farm!"
Kojichan@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 17d
Even more product placement? I thought we already did this! Now we're gonna have Google Ads telling me to buy some cheap thing from Temu or Shien that looks suspiciously sexual like a flesh colored body suit?
LSNLDN@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 18d
They already advertise in games. I’ve been drinking Nuka Cola for years now, and expect to continue doing so for centuries
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 17d
The only ads in games I’ve ever been ok with were the ones in SWAT 4 where they just had dynamic textures that pulled different ads in so it was literally just like, decorative flyers on the walls were real ads instead of fake ones. Of course I could do with most the whole game braking 20 years later because the back end shit down thing.
billwashere@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 17d
Certain games this might be ok in, depending on the game. I mean say like in games like Cyberpunk and there are ads everywhere. It’s part of the world. Maybe that. But some ancient fantasy game, fuck no.