Europeans can vote to have birds on their next banknotes

Every European (and I guess non-Europeans as well) can vote what our next Euro design will be: https://surveys.ecb.europa.eu/10b/neweuro/

About ten different designs are available and about half of them feature birds instead of boring people.

I really like the bird designs as they symbolise freedom without borders. Hope one of them gets chosen in the end.

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diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de · 132 pts · 20d (21 replies)

Ich_iel had this

yogurtwrong@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 20d (5 replies)

Somebody should make a similar one with a tilting window

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kamen@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 19d (4 replies)

Does anyone find tilting windows annoying?

diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 19d (2 replies)

skill issue

kamen@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 19d (1 reply)

No, I meant that from a different angle - both things have their purpose, but attached bottle caps is something that almost anyone you ask would find annoying.

Initially this was (I guess) more like some typical European things that are not common at all outside of Europe.

Regna@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 19d

The bottle caps are not annoying unless you have decreased hand mobility or strength. Any young able-bodied guys complaining are just lazy or limp.

Regna@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 19d

It is extremely difficult for elderly (or anyone) with rheumatoid arthritis, arthroscopic injuries or just deteriorated hand grip, as most windows require a strong two-handed grip to open, tilt or close. I love them, but my elderly relatives require help from us relatives or home aides/helpers to even manage to ventilate their homes.

BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 19d (1 reply)

Perfect, the 50EUR should be straight banana.

Blackmist@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 19d

Where gay banana?

Agent641@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 20d (12 replies)

Explain the joke plz?

Geologist@lemmy.zip · 38 pts · 20d (8 replies)

It’s a PET bottle lid that is attached to the bottle so you don’t lose it, a unique piece of their culture I guess lol

testaccount789@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 20d (7 replies)

And an annoying one. Gets in the way, and makes screwing the cap back on harder because it keeps pulling it.

diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de · 28 pts · 20d

Meh, I am not in the EU but have these bottle caps. The initial annoyance is easy to overcome and I love it.

greenbit@lemmy.zip · 27 pts · 20d (4 replies)

User error. There's one extra screwing that people don't do

skittle07crusher@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 20d (3 replies)

I did this once or twice by accident. Would you be so kindkind as to explain?

greenbit@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 20d (2 replies)

After the cap is open, it can be twisted once more to extend

Magnum@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 19d

Oh that is by design?????

FundMECFS@piefed.zip · 22 pts · 20d

disagree. I love them.

Dayroom7485@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 20d (1 reply)

The EU introduced a policy mandating that plastic lids must be permanently attached to bottles, which came into effect a year or so ago.

The law has been controversial. While some hail it for keeping the environment free of lids, others find the attached lids cumbersome.

sbeak@sopuli.xyz · 26 pts · 20d

Personally, I feel that the lid is not cumbersome at all (just flip the lid over and drink from the other side to avoid splashing?), and having fewer lonely bottle caps littered everywhere is generally quite good!

And if people dislike the lids enough to avoid drinking from single-use plastic bottles, hey, that's another benefit! Especially for regions where the tap water is drinkable (e.g. Germany)

sbeak@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 20d

In the EU, water bottles are required to have the cap connected to the bottle (reduces waste of the bottle caps)

It's quite interesting, when you go to a non EU governed area (like Norway or the Faroe Islands) the bottles no longer have the cap connected to the plastic ring bit

TabbsTheBat@pawb.social · 119 pts · 20d (19 replies)

I much prefer the birds over the people =w=

I mean, most of the people on there have 0 relevancy to my country, and I imagine it's not an uncommon sentiment elsewhere. Birds at least don't exclude a bunch of countries

I also quite like the vertical/portrait orientation designs in there, I think it would be a cool change

Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 20d

I tell you 100% of those people have 0 relevancy to my and many other EU countries

dracc@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 20d (8 replies)

Funny, I was about to say I've never seen a single one of the spieces depicted in the image. 😂

TabbsTheBat@pawb.social · 26 pts · 20d (5 replies)

Well the 50 is a white stork, actually the national bird of my country :3 we have (or used to have back when I learned it in school) the highest nesting density of storks :3 and also a holiday about celebrating storks

The others I believe are:

  • 5 - scarlet wallcreeper
  • 10 - kingfisher
  • 20 - european bee eater
  • 100 - avocet
  • 200 - northern gannet

I've seen a few of those in the wild, but definitely not all :3

rustydrd@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 20d

FYI, Design B has the names of the birds printed on the notes, and you're correct about all of them.

https://www.ecb.europa.eu/euro/banknotes/future_banknotes/html/design-proposals.en.html

Whelks_chance@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 20d (3 replies)

Portugal? All the storks and enormous nests balanced on everything is hilarious, I love it.

TabbsTheBat@pawb.social · 7 pts · 20d (2 replies)

Lithuania :3

We have the same thing with stork nests on everything tho

Whelks_chance@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 20d (1 reply)

That's cool. Very much on my list of places to visit. Was in Portugal last week which is why that came to mind first.

TabbsTheBat@pawb.social · 1 pts · 19d

It's always interesting to me when people choose to visit here :3 I suppose cause all of it is quite standard to me lol

If you do come, I hope you visit more than just vilnius tho. A lot of people seem to just stick to it, and not see any of the rest of the country ^^

LeapSecond@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 20d (1 reply)

That would be my bird criticism too. I recognized 4/6 people on the notes but have no idea what these birds are or where they live. I would expect crows, magpies, swallows, seagulls or even those green parakeets that are technically invasive but are all over Europe.

remote_control_conor@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 20d

It's crazy and unacceptable we didn't get a corvid.

makyo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 20d

I definitely like the birds more than the fictional bridges

Cethin@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 19d (2 replies)

I assume these are in the same order for everyone, but I loved the first set of vertical ones; the ones with might contrast. Most of the designs felt afraid to use color, since the note is supposed to be one color to identify them easily. I honestly think having the high contrast with the birds makes them easier to identify though. 90% of it was still the right color, so that's still easy to see. Having the image stand out just gives it another identifiable piece though, which can't hurt, and it makes them look so much prettier.

TabbsTheBat@pawb.social · 2 pts · 19d (1 reply)

I believe they're under the same letters for everyone. I'll include the pictures just in case :3

For me "D"

Is my favourite overall, I love the bright colours on it, though I think the 20 maybe is a bit crowded, with the multiple birds and the security strip it all kinda clashes and you lose the shapes in the middle imo

The other vertical ones with birds ("I" and "J") are my 2 runner ups, (I just think the vertical designs are cool :3), "J"

I think has better colours than "I", and I like that the colouration of the birds is somewhat preserved in the accents on them both. "I"

Overall looks the most rustic/traditional, while "D" the most modern I think.

Cethin@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 19d

Yeah, they're all good! For me, I is my favorite. J is a close second. I like that the birds all inhabit approximately the same location on J though, all entering that circle. It's a nice touch. D I feel is too plain, but it may be slightly better functionally. It definitely looks more like currency. I is the most artistic and interesting I think.

DupaCycki@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 19d

I much prefer the birds over the people

Same. I hate people

kolmaskommentoija@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 19d

Honestly, I have not seen or heard anyone say, they would like the people on the notes. Those have to exist somewhere, since the people are even a suggestion - but if the design chosen is people, I will 100% believe someone high up specifically decided on it, over what was actually favored.

ChilledPeppers@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 20d

Veetical designs ftw. I want vertical bills so mich:3

hugig@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 19d (1 reply)

Saying people like Marie Curie have no relevancy to your country just because they are not from your country is a wild statement. Maybe also the reason for why the idea of "Europeans" as a people is not working out yet.

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 19d

Maybe also the reason for why the idea of “Europeans” as a people is not working out yet.

Now do US South and North.

SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 47 pts · 20d (1 reply)

Makes sense, since money also isn’t real.

tpihkal@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 20d

There's a reason they call it a flock of cameras.

BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works · 39 pts · 20d (1 reply)

Birds > people

Putting actual people on banknotes... Have we learned nothing from metoo? WTF?!

Eels said it best: "I like birds"

bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de · 4 pts · 20d

Been listening to that song the whole time I was voting.

AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip · 24 pts · 20d (1 reply)

Im not even that big on birds but the bird designs are so much better than the people ones and also in general i dont think people on banknotes are that good of an idea. Birds on the other hand are something we can all relate to and should think about more cause many species are in danger.

fireweed@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 20d

Many of the people designs felt like they were for a corporate convention/seminar, or maybe a local library, not an EU banknote. Bravo to them for trying something new, but on the other hand, ew.

lyralycan@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 20d (5 replies)

And most of the bird designs had buildings 😢

bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de · 32 pts · 20d

Of course, the birds need toilets!

rustydrd@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 20d (2 replies)

Not most of them, all had buildings, and it's always the same buildings, too. The buildings are those of the seven official institutions of the EU.

  • 5€: European Parliament
  • 10€: European Commission
  • 20€: European Central Bank
  • 50€: European Court of Justice
  • 100€: European Council and Council of the EU (shared building)
  • 200€: European Court of Auditors

Personally, once I figured that out (and it took me a minute), I much preferred the buildings to the seemingly random scenes on the backs of designs with the famous people. One of the designs also shows the names of the institutions (and birds), which I particularly liked.

homoludens@feddit.org · 4 pts · 20d (1 reply)

I like that the bank is more valuable than the commission and the parliament.

rustydrd@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 20d

I think the reasoning is probably opposite to that, because there are more of the smaller notes in circulation. So you'll probably see multiple 5€ every day, but you'll rarely see a 200€ unless you work in banking or organized crime. I also vaguely remember a survey from years back that showed that the 5€ note is the most popular one.

Seimhe@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 20d

Yes, I saw someone on Mastodon say that birds have less and less habitat under the EU and that the notes are becoming the safest place for them at the moment .

JakoJakoJako13@piefed.social · 17 pts · 20d (2 replies)

First country to do dinosaurs get me as a citizen.

bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de · 15 pts · 20d

I mean, technically....

SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 19d

Monkey's paw curls:

muzzle@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 20d (4 replies)

The downside is that there would be buildings on the other side of the bank notes.

technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 20d

Yeah that could be heavy to carry around.

Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 20d (2 replies)

Better than whatever bullshit the other option is. People on EU banknotes are just not okay since they still represent a country and also wtf is the shit on the back of those human notes supposed to even be??

muzzle@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 20d (1 reply)

I really do not understand why those people would represent just a country and not Europe. By the same logic, they may represent only their region, or their town.

Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 20d

Yeah and its a problem either way.

berber@feddit.org · 12 pts · 20d

stylistically, some of them are really pretty, some of them are really ugly.

as others have said, i think people are a bad idea, unless they have all kinds of local or special editions like with coins.

i think birds are kinda cool. not sure why only birds as animals, and not other animals too. i would have also liked trees or other plants, or even mushrooms. but oh well.

i don't like having people on bank notes because it is really hard to pick which ones are inportant, and you can't choose enough of them, many people will get left out. also, i don't like the idea of worshipping people.

NightShot@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 20d

We did our part for the birds <3

stark@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 19d

It’s weird how they want faces now when the bridges on the current notes are specifically chosen to be fantasy bridges so they are nationally ambiguous. Also don’t see why Maria Callas deserves a spot as if she had such an important impact on European history. It’s like putting DJ Tiësto on the notes in 50 years.

The birds are the better choice.

synapse1278@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 19d

I love design D with the recording and spectrograph of the bird calls as anti-copy measures.

Gremour@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 20d
multifariace@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 20d

Boobies, Great Tits, Bushtits, Dickcissel, Cock-of-the-rock. There are so many options!

kevinsky@feddit.nl · 6 pts · 19d

I like the birds, never been a fan of the faces on the bills.

TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 19d

I love how many of these designs are clearly influenced by the old Dutch Guilders bank note designs. See this for a documentary about it on YouTube.

dnub@piefed.social · 5 pts · 20d

I also hope 1 of the bird designs wins

nuko147@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 19d

I wish they had different animals. Like birds for the 5€ (light), bears for the 200€ (heavy), and different animals in between.

And for the back famous art paintings.

GarboDog@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 19d

We like the birds ones but the buildings on the back felt weird, so were leaning towards the ones with people and cultures

calcopiritus@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 20d (2 replies)

I know I'm commenting on a bird community. But I don't want all the notes to have birds & buildings.

The other design is much worse though.

There's really only 2 options: birds and select few people. Why though? What's wrong with the current notes? Can't we have more than 2 options? I hate both of them.

DoomProphet@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 20d

I guess some people in Brussels have to justify their positions and spend millions doing so.

I'm perfectly happy with the current design and I also wouldn't mind the birds but the EU institutes on the other side I do mind. It's just where the EU is governed from and that's really not important and just stokes the ego of the people sitting there. Put something significant on it.

kungfuratte@feddit.org · 2 pts · 20d

There were votes a few years ago. The two variants are the result of those.

tio_bira@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 20d

That's so beautiful, my father love birds and is a numismatic, too bad we aren't european and euro is very expensive to obtain here

arcine@jlai.lu · 3 pts · 19d

I don't think any person deserves to be on the bills. The birds absolutely do !

I wish they weren't systematically paired with horrifyingly bad architecture on the reverse, but I'll take what I can get...

dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 20d (3 replies)

No penguins? Speciesism, that's what it is.

herrvogel@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 20d

It's there right next to the emu and the kookaburra.

sbeak@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 20d (1 reply)

France has lots of territories in the Antarctic region, so technically penguins can be considered native to the EU sort of (though the overseas territories are governed a bit differently than the "core" EU states)

dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 20d

Maybe I should petition Ecuador; they could put the Galapagos Penguin on their money.

Airfried@piefed.social · 3 pts · 20d (1 reply)

Putting them on money before capitalism drives them extinct seems a bit macabre to me. I'm surprised they even bother to redesign the 200€ bill. Because well you know, it virtually doesn't exist.

ripcord@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 20d

God damn, Lemmy. Everything is the worst and sucks all the time apparently.

SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 19d

If Canada joins the EU, the noble Turkey can appear on the $1 euro note.

Fmstrat@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 20d

Done. I feel bad saying I hate the other designs, but I am sure they're going to grade these scaled.

technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 20d

They don't want ugly green enslavers?

TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 19d

These ones are fire, but its a bit weird to have an American born woman in the euro notes.

NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 20d

badelf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 20d

Europe still has birds?

HubertManne@piefed.social · 1 pts · 20d

If I was making a constitution I would have something in it that nothing can be named after people or use their images related to governement. Even if they are dead 100 years. legacy and monument thing should be avoided. leave historians to write the history and leave it at that.

BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 19d

Most of them are ugly as fuck

Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 19d

And the important stuff they ram down our throats