Yeah season 21 is crazy, they took a hard sci fi turn about 10 seasons ago and now everyone is split up. They made a whole cinematic universe and its very confusing. Jim was a CIA agent for a while and now he's a post apocalyptic survivor. IMO they're making the character do too much, bir I guess that's what happens when you run out of ideas ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah, dont piss away Millions of dollars on a movie noone will watch. Nobody fucking cares what struggles anyone goes thru. You wanna make fuckin movie for every type of cancer victem, diabetic, or retard who lost an arm or leg?
The literally is a movie about people suffering from cancer. And one about somebody who's lost a limb. I'm surprised someone as clearly educated in the film arts as you doesn't know that.
Yeah, god forbid you might gain a new perspective and develop *gag* empathy for people that live different lives or have different problems than you do
My Dad is incredibly dyslexic, and it's a legit issue for him.
Growing up, if a movie or TV show had subs we had to take turns reading it out loud for him. I still have to catch myself trying to do automatically it when we're watching something with other people.
if a movie or TV show had subs we had to take turns reading it out loud
I do this for my wife, because she spends most of a film on her phone.
She's listening to the audio and can mostly follow what's going on by glancing at the screen and reading subtitles every now and then, but if there's a foreign language with subtitles, or a text description (Paris, 11 AM or 10 years later, etc.), she'll miss it and then be completely lost.
I can't tell you how many times I've had to pause a movie and give a quick recap to get her caught up with the plot.
I believe Netflix order movies to be understandable to people who are not paying attention. Maybe they have something that is good enough for you, it would save you from having to recap stuff.
Second Screen Viewing, yeah. Basically, Netflix is dumbing down their scripts so people can understand the plot even when it’s just playing on their second screen while they do other stuff. Apparently our attention spans have shrunk so much that people can’t even be expected to pay attention to the movies they put on.
I am conflicted here. On the one hand, I agree that subtitles would have been nice. On the other hand, I think folks with hearing disabilities get shut out of other content so much that I don't think this somewhat solitary case makes it good mildly infuriating material. It's most likely just an oversight. Much less likely a clever scheme to highlight ableism.
I mean, by US law (back when analog TV was standard) all TV broadcasts had to include closed captions on scanline 23(?) for people with hearing disabilities. it was part of the vertical blanking interval so it didn't interfere with the regularly visible broadcast. It is good to include subtitles for all dialogue, spoken in the local dialect, in a foreign dialect, and even the various sign languages. That's isn't to say that yes, I fully agree that differently abled people should be able to take part in the dialog and should have accommodations where needed.
Semi related, did you know American sign language is closer to French sign language than it is to British sign language?
The worst is when you're watching something with subtitles (in your own language because it's hard to hear sometimes), then someone on screen speaks a different language with the subtitles hardcoded into the video.
Great, right?
Well no, because Amazon's (or Netflix etc, they all do it) subtitles have a big "[Speaks German]" up the entire time, blocking the hard coded subs entirely so you cannot see what they say without temporarily disabling subs. Like bitch, I KNOW THEY ARE SPEAKING GERMAN, MOVE THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY SO I KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SAYING
It's so fucking stupid and infuriating. How have they not addressed this shit?
I get a special kind of mad when I watch a foreign film in its original language. Turn on that language's subtitles and the subtitles don't match what's being verbally said because apparently the subs have been translated into English then back into the original language so nothing matches and everything sucks. Or worse when they've translated some idiom for American audiences and have translated that idiom back so what's being said makes zero sense.
This is an accessibility issue and the FCC takes it pretty seriously. Captions must be accurate, complete, synchronized (or as close to as possible), and (this is the important one in this case) cannot obscure important information on the screen.
It's a pretty easy form, but they do want a lot of details.
Yeah I remember Man in the High Castle was really terrible with subtitles. It didn't have hard-coded subtitles at all and the programmatic ones didn't work reliably. So I'd be sitting there and and thinking "ok am I not supposed to know what they're saying?" After the scene goes on for a while it becomes "yeah I definitely supposed to know what they're saying well I guess I have to mess with subtitle settings." Sometimes it wouldn't work at all and I'd have to open a ticket with Amazon Prime and wait until they got it working.
So I guess they gave up on fixing subtitles and just baked them in. But still fucked it up anyway. Apparently a company as big as Amazon still can't do QA on the use case of someone who's an english speaker just watching on their platform. It's sad.
Sometimes for fun I'll watch it foreign language movie I'll turn on English dubbing and run subtitles as well. It's really hilarious how different the two will be
Sometimes, and specifically on Amazon prime, if a show / movie has hard coded subs (for sign or other foreign languages) you will need to turn off the optional subtitle setting.
Of course then, when someone does speak out loud you won't get your normal subs until you turn the setting back on. I used to put in a new complaint for each show that it happened on until i canned prime altogether and went back to pirating all their content.
Germany adds the funky police that sometimes only German subtitles are allowed no matter the audio language you pick. So if there are no German-language subtitles because none were ever made, well you're shit out of luck now, fuck you and your subtitle needs! 😐
This film would never work for second screen viewers because the characters would have to nonstop be saying “I’m being really quiet” or “we can’t make any noise, even loud breathing, or the monster will get us”.
I see this more and more with shit on streaming services where, for some fucking reason, they strip the subtitles out for the non-native language parts even tho they are supposed to be subtitled for the audience. Like for example I wanted to see the new Ghostbusters the other day since it was on HBO which I have, but half-way through I had to stop it and pirate it anyway, because all the scenes with just the bad guys talking was supposed to be subtitled but they took the god damn subs out. They didn't even translate the dialogue in closed captioning even tho the audience is supposed to know what they are saying!
I was watching rental family (an american guy moves to japan to be an actor and speaks a very little japanese) and somehow they decided to ignore all the parts in japanese and from the subtitles there was only the english parts. In the beginning i was like "ok, it's to let the audience know that the protagonist does not understand what they're shouting to him - then finally i had to pirate a sub from opensubtitles to understand was going on as the dialogues were 95% in japanese
My favorite is when services will put a caption like “[speaking spanish]” over top of the English subtitles that are in a film for a Spanish speaking character.
The film maker put the subtitles in there so if you can’t speak Spanish you can understand what the character is saying and then you can’t read it because Amazon decided to helpfully inform you they are speaking.
SDH subtitles (subtitles for the deaf & hard of hearing) describe all the relevant sounds in a scene including background song lyrics, there is likely to be another plain subtitle track if you don't want that
Oh if only. I've seen two tracks on occasion on streaming services but it's extremely rare. I think it was on Netflix or Prime and it's been years since I've seen it. As someone who is not hard of hearing but just has a little trouble understanding sometimes it's very useful to have the option that's exclusively dialogue.
If the song lyrics are relevant to the scene, sure I could see them being there. Like those songs that are custom written to do a sort of 4th wall breaking live commentary on the characters. But a lot of songs? Not needed at all.
That's either "sign language doesn't work with our speech-to-text algorithm and we'll be throat fucked if we hire an actual person to do a job" or some massively pretentious statement about accessibility in media.
For a decade tech has fucked sub's accessibility. The landscape is a complete mess, simultaneously stuck with tech that is too old and also suffering from awful implementation of new tech (LLMs suck at closed captioning but everyone insist it is the only way to do it now). Yet context reading to know who needs subs when is still so archaic and depends completely on user input. But then, the content is always innadecuate, specially when it's for the hearing impaired.
Yeah I've noticed a lot of llm subs on streaming platforms and I'm like bro wtf the stuff you download is better than this. How can you be the one making the thing and not put accurate fucking subtitles on it. It's pathetic. I mean are have the llm do the heavy lifting but you've still gotta proof it ffs.
Because it only makes sense because employers can’t be trusted to hire equitably. It is a thumb on the scales, and so is an injust act, but is currently necessary due to bad hiring practices.
Hopefully we can grow out of this and employers will just hire the best people for the job, regardless of personal circumstance.
You seem to think DEI is when employers have to meet a diversity quota, when in reality, it upholds laws stating employers can't make any hiring decisions based on race or any other such demographic.
Diversity, Equality, Inclusion. The acts support diversity by barring exclusion on grounds of demographics and demanding equality by barring the use of demographic information as part of the hiring process. DEI does not define any minimum diversity metrics.
It's civil which was nice, but it's also an argument that is (charitably) extremely poorly thought through. It's just an appeal towards free-market regulation, which in an ideal world does work great but we have hundreds of years history (and the fact that I do not have a pet dragon) that establishes this is not an ideal world and it would not in fact work great.
It's a good, optimistic, hope-for-the-future thought yes - but they're using that to justify badmouthing DEI policies which is both incredibly counterproductive and pretty suspect.
They are not really though, they are still agreeing that it is necessary, just that they wish it wasn't. Which the people DEI is supposed to support would probably agree to
We aren't helping anyone by shoehorning random diversity stuff into cheap ass media. Sure we might have 20 out of place same sex relationships but god forbid if they were to touch on difficult topics. The people at the top make wild choices and are then rewarded because is supports the executives ideas about "diversity." In practice diversity is really just a marketing to make us forget about all the systemic problems in the world.
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ruuster13@lemmy.zip · 113 pts · 22h
No info about film in thread: mildy infuriating.
FluidBeef@quokk.au · -10 pts · 21h
It’s from Lollywood, you’ve probably never heard of it.
sanitation@lemmy.today · -35 pts · 22h
U haven't seen that movie?
A quiet place
ruuster13@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 22h
U have seen this one?
Zarobi@aussie.zone · 12 pts · 21h
I cri evere tim
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 12h
Failed to Load Media makes my favorite videos
sanitation@lemmy.today · -4 pts · 22h
No. What's that? It looks sad
Jimbabwe@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 21h
I believe it’s called The Rural Juror
EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 21h
The... Rurrershurr?
tempest@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 20h
No Rrrrrrewwrjerrr
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 19h
They Turk er Jurrr.
cybervseas@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 19h
The best days of my flerm…
HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world · 72 pts · 1d
Is that Jim from The Office!?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 60 pts · 1d
CIA Jim, yes
AmyAye@nord.pub · 8 pts · 21h
Didn't he also play CIA Agent Jack Ryan?
faintwhenfree@lemmus.org · 4 pts · 12h
He does a good job of it
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 21h
He couldn't stay in Athlead forever.
DisasterTransport@startrek.website · 16 pts · 15h
Yeah season 21 is crazy, they took a hard sci fi turn about 10 seasons ago and now everyone is split up. They made a whole cinematic universe and its very confusing. Jim was a CIA agent for a while and now he's a post apocalyptic survivor. IMO they're making the character do too much, bir I guess that's what happens when you run out of ideas ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
FluidBeef@quokk.au · 5 pts · 21h
I want there to be a film with both Tim and Jim sitting at a desk pulling reaction faces to camera at everything going on.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 19h
Who’s Tim?
MycelialMass@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 17h
Original Jim from the UK version of The Office
ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 17h
I believe his name is Bilbo Watson
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 19h
Big reaction face guy.
k0e3@lemmy.ca · 64 pts · 13h
I mean if you have a better way to make viewers understand what people with hearing impairments go through every day, then I'm all ears.
PlaidBaron@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 13h
Phrasing.
11111one11111@lemmy.world · -61 pts · 12h
Yeah, dont piss away Millions of dollars on a movie noone will watch. Nobody fucking cares what struggles anyone goes thru. You wanna make fuckin movie for every type of cancer victem, diabetic, or retard who lost an arm or leg?
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 12 pts · 8h
MAGA film criticism.
Tiger666@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 12h
Wow.
Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 10h
Guy whos never watched movies or felt empathy:
qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 12h
🤣
echodot@feddit.uk · 8 pts · 8h
The literally is a movie about people suffering from cancer. And one about somebody who's lost a limb. I'm surprised someone as clearly educated in the film arts as you doesn't know that.
mriormro@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 1h
I’m always surprised by how stupid people can get.
Congrats!
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org · 3 pts · 2h
Yeah, god forbid you might gain a new perspective and develop *gag* empathy for people that live different lives or have different problems than you do
nomy@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 1h
Have you seen the trash currently being turned out? What could it hurt? Tell someone elses story, maybe it'll be entertaining.
JackTea@piefed.world · 47 pts · 23h
That's not going to work for me. I can't read. Can they do a dub?
Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 45 pts · 23h
That’s called audio description, they do it for blind audiences.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 23h
My Dad is incredibly dyslexic, and it's a legit issue for him.
Growing up, if a movie or TV show had subs we had to take turns reading it out loud for him. I still have to catch myself trying to do automatically it when we're watching something with other people.
anguo@piefed.ca · 13 pts · 23h
I grew up in a country where movies are rarely dubbed. I was reading the subtitles out loud for my siblings who couldn't read yet for entire movies.
Zarobi@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 21h
I read video game dialogue out loud for kids like a storybook. Also anime subs that have no official dub, it can get pretty silly
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 5 pts · 14h
Do you do make voices too for each character? XD
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 12h
why would you not?
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 3 pts · 12h
I would 100%
Zarobi@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 14h
Of course lol. I try and copy the Japanese voice actors
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 3 pts · 14h
That's so cute
cobysev@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 22h
I do this for my wife, because she spends most of a film on her phone.
She's listening to the audio and can mostly follow what's going on by glancing at the screen and reading subtitles every now and then, but if there's a foreign language with subtitles, or a text description (Paris, 11 AM or 10 years later, etc.), she'll miss it and then be completely lost.
I can't tell you how many times I've had to pause a movie and give a quick recap to get her caught up with the plot.
huppakee@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 22h
I believe Netflix order movies to be understandable to people who are not paying attention. Maybe they have something that is good enough for you, it would save you from having to recap stuff.
Carl@anarchist.nexus · 6 pts · 16h
Second Screen Viewing, yeah. Basically, Netflix is dumbing down their scripts so people can understand the plot even when it’s just playing on their second screen while they do other stuff. Apparently our attention spans have shrunk so much that people can’t even be expected to pay attention to the movies they put on.
Fluke@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 12h
Yeah. Fuck all that shit.
I'm living in the "how it happened" stages of Idiocracy. What the fuck is this timeline?!
FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website · 43 pts · 23h
I am conflicted here. On the one hand, I agree that subtitles would have been nice. On the other hand, I think folks with hearing disabilities get shut out of other content so much that I don't think this somewhat solitary case makes it good mildly infuriating material. It's most likely just an oversight. Much less likely a clever scheme to highlight ableism.
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 23h
heh
FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website · 3 pts · 17h
Eff me, that wasn't intended!
drcobaltjedi@programming.dev · 9 pts · 19h
I mean, by US law (back when analog TV was standard) all TV broadcasts had to include closed captions on scanline 23(?) for people with hearing disabilities. it was part of the vertical blanking interval so it didn't interfere with the regularly visible broadcast. It is good to include subtitles for all dialogue, spoken in the local dialect, in a foreign dialect, and even the various sign languages. That's isn't to say that yes, I fully agree that differently abled people should be able to take part in the dialog and should have accommodations where needed.
Semi related, did you know American sign language is closer to French sign language than it is to British sign language?
FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website · 3 pts · 17h
Yes, I did hear that before.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 33 pts · 9h
The worst is when you're watching something with subtitles (in your own language because it's hard to hear sometimes), then someone on screen speaks a different language with the subtitles hardcoded into the video.
Great, right?
Well no, because Amazon's (or Netflix etc, they all do it) subtitles have a big "[Speaks German]" up the entire time, blocking the hard coded subs entirely so you cannot see what they say without temporarily disabling subs. Like bitch, I KNOW THEY ARE SPEAKING GERMAN, MOVE THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY SO I KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SAYING
It's so fucking stupid and infuriating. How have they not addressed this shit?
Doom@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 7h
I get a special kind of mad when I watch a foreign film in its original language. Turn on that language's subtitles and the subtitles don't match what's being verbally said because apparently the subs have been translated into English then back into the original language so nothing matches and everything sucks. Or worse when they've translated some idiom for American audiences and have translated that idiom back so what's being said makes zero sense.
alternategait@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 8h
This is an accessibility issue and the FCC takes it pretty seriously. Captions must be accurate, complete, synchronized (or as close to as possible), and (this is the important one in this case) cannot obscure important information on the screen.
It's a pretty easy form, but they do want a lot of details.
https://consumercomplaints.fcc.gov/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=36040
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 8h
Yeah I remember Man in the High Castle was really terrible with subtitles. It didn't have hard-coded subtitles at all and the programmatic ones didn't work reliably. So I'd be sitting there and and thinking "ok am I not supposed to know what they're saying?" After the scene goes on for a while it becomes "yeah I definitely supposed to know what they're saying well I guess I have to mess with subtitle settings." Sometimes it wouldn't work at all and I'd have to open a ticket with Amazon Prime and wait until they got it working.
So I guess they gave up on fixing subtitles and just baked them in. But still fucked it up anyway. Apparently a company as big as Amazon still can't do QA on the use case of someone who's an english speaker just watching on their platform. It's sad.
yuknowhokat@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1h
Sometimes for fun I'll watch it foreign language movie I'll turn on English dubbing and run subtitles as well. It's really hilarious how different the two will be
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 1 pts · 30m
Oh I hate that. Netflix animes are super bad about it. I wish they'd have the subbed English dub as well instead of a translated sub.
Aneb@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 8h
It happens on Jellyfin too but probably because the subs and videos are pulled from the same source
Rug_Pisser@piefed.zip · 33 pts · 19h
Sometimes, and specifically on Amazon prime, if a show / movie has hard coded subs (for sign or other foreign languages) you will need to turn off the optional subtitle setting.
Of course then, when someone does speak out loud you won't get your normal subs until you turn the setting back on. I used to put in a new complaint for each show that it happened on until i canned prime altogether and went back to pirating all their content.
Carighan@piefed.world · 5 pts · 14h
Germany adds the funky police that sometimes only German subtitles are allowed no matter the audio language you pick. So if there are no German-language subtitles because none were ever made, well you're shit out of luck now, fuck you and your subtitle needs! 😐
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 14h
Its really weird that they do that. Like I would have assumed that the hardcoded subs were part of the video.
FluidBeef@quokk.au · 32 pts · 21h
This film would never work for second screen viewers because the characters would have to nonstop be saying “I’m being really quiet” or “we can’t make any noise, even loud breathing, or the monster will get us”.
bhamlin@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 18h
🫵🤏🤞🤞🤘☝️👍🤌👍🤞🤌🫱🫲🫷👉👐🫶🙌🫶🤛
rovingnothing29@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 18h
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 13h
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 9 pts · 14h
This made me curious how many words in ASL (and other sign languages) can be made just using the hand emojis. 🤔
PlaidBaron@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 13h
Not many.
KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 8h
afaik 🤟 is the only emoji based off an ASL sign so I don't think there's many
CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 8h
ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 9h
Directions unclear, stealing third base
StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 8h
⬆️⬆️⬇️⬇️⬅️➡️⬅️➡️🅱️🅰️ [START]
Redfox8@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 1h
Great band!
StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 45m
The Konami Code?
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 24 pts · 14h
I see this more and more with shit on streaming services where, for some fucking reason, they strip the subtitles out for the non-native language parts even tho they are supposed to be subtitled for the audience. Like for example I wanted to see the new Ghostbusters the other day since it was on HBO which I have, but half-way through I had to stop it and pirate it anyway, because all the scenes with just the bad guys talking was supposed to be subtitled but they took the god damn subs out. They didn't even translate the dialogue in closed captioning even tho the audience is supposed to know what they are saying!
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 12h
I was watching rental family (an american guy moves to japan to be an actor and speaks a very little japanese) and somehow they decided to ignore all the parts in japanese and from the subtitles there was only the english parts. In the beginning i was like "ok, it's to let the audience know that the protagonist does not understand what they're shouting to him - then finally i had to pirate a sub from opensubtitles to understand was going on as the dialogues were 95% in japanese
immutable@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 6h
My favorite is when services will put a caption like “[speaking spanish]” over top of the English subtitles that are in a film for a Spanish speaking character.
The film maker put the subtitles in there so if you can’t speak Spanish you can understand what the character is saying and then you can’t read it because Amazon decided to helpfully inform you they are speaking.
tigermountain@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 7h
What pisses me off about subtitles is when they start displaying lyrics to songs playing in the background.
kip@piefed.zip · 9 pts · 3h
SDH subtitles (subtitles for the deaf & hard of hearing) describe all the relevant sounds in a scene including background song lyrics, there is likely to be another plain subtitle track if you don't want that
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 1 pts · 31m
Oh if only. I've seen two tracks on occasion on streaming services but it's extremely rare. I think it was on Netflix or Prime and it's been years since I've seen it. As someone who is not hard of hearing but just has a little trouble understanding sometimes it's very useful to have the option that's exclusively dialogue.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 1h
Although I love it when they subtitle the inaudible-but-foreshadowing news anchor in the background.
Ellvix@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 6h
If the song lyrics are relevant to the scene, sure I could see them being there. Like those songs that are custom written to do a sort of 4th wall breaking live commentary on the characters. But a lot of songs? Not needed at all.
glitchdx@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 3h
Or there's no lyrics but the subtitles keep repeating "heat" or "scary".
tigermountain@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3h
That's hilarious.
swizzlestick@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 2h
I've not had scary yet, but heat does come up a lot for me in autogenerated subs when it can't figure out wtf is going on.
Gentle backing music:
Subtitles: Heat
Landless2029@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 25m
I don't mind stuff like that when it's at the top of the screen like a fansub
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 3h
That's either "sign language doesn't work with our speech-to-text algorithm and we'll be throat fucked if we hire an actual person to do a job" or some massively pretentious statement about accessibility in media.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 13 pts · 23h
Maybe you missed the point.
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 12h
I am a bit lost here.
I just watched A Quiet Place on Amazon and it had subtitles…
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 12h
Subtitles also describe sounds, they're not just about speech.
Cytobit@piefed.social · 14 pts · 11h
You're thinking of closed captioning. Subtitles is just dialogue.
CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 12h
That is called described audio.
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 2h
Well, ackshually...
Nollij@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 9h
That is Subtitles for the Deaf and Hearing-impaired (SDH). It is not the standard for subtitles in the US and Canada.
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 8h
Then there are the shows too cheap to make real subtitles and instead use auto generated ones that can't handle accents or names.
dustyData@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 12h
For a decade tech has fucked sub's accessibility. The landscape is a complete mess, simultaneously stuck with tech that is too old and also suffering from awful implementation of new tech (LLMs suck at closed captioning but everyone insist it is the only way to do it now). Yet context reading to know who needs subs when is still so archaic and depends completely on user input. But then, the content is always innadecuate, specially when it's for the hearing impaired.
webhead@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4h
Yeah I've noticed a lot of llm subs on streaming platforms and I'm like bro wtf the stuff you download is better than this. How can you be the one making the thing and not put accurate fucking subtitles on it. It's pathetic. I mean are have the llm do the heavy lifting but you've still gotta proof it ffs.
skisnow@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 20h
finley@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 23h
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · -37 pts · 23h
Yes but think about how diverse it is
call_me_xale@lemmy.zip · 32 pts · 23h
DEI is a good thing, actually.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · -7 pts · 21h
Its a bad thing, but it’s less bad than the thing it’s trying to solve. We should look forward to a scenario where DEI is obsolete.
paranoid@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 21h
Why do you think DEI is a bad thing?
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 9 pts · 21h
Because it only makes sense because employers can’t be trusted to hire equitably. It is a thumb on the scales, and so is an injust act, but is currently necessary due to bad hiring practices.
Hopefully we can grow out of this and employers will just hire the best people for the job, regardless of personal circumstance.
XeroxCool@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 20h
You seem to think DEI is when employers have to meet a diversity quota, when in reality, it upholds laws stating employers can't make any hiring decisions based on race or any other such demographic.
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org · 0 pts · 2h
The D in DEI literally stands for diversity though. But you're probably right and they are thinking of affirmative action
XeroxCool@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2h
Diversity, Equality, Inclusion. The acts support diversity by barring exclusion on grounds of demographics and demanding equality by barring the use of demographic information as part of the hiring process. DEI does not define any minimum diversity metrics.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 21h
Oh I sure do look forward to the well-reasoned and deeply nuanced explanation you're certain to get in response to that question.
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub · 6 pts · 21h
Lol i was expecting something, too, but the answer is actually quite reasonable
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 20h
It's civil which was nice, but it's also an argument that is (charitably) extremely poorly thought through. It's just an appeal towards free-market regulation, which in an ideal world does work great but we have hundreds of years history (and the fact that I do not have a pet dragon) that establishes this is not an ideal world and it would not in fact work great.
It's a good, optimistic, hope-for-the-future thought yes - but they're using that to justify badmouthing DEI policies which is both incredibly counterproductive and pretty suspect.
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org · 1 pts · 2h
They are not really though, they are still agreeing that it is necessary, just that they wish it wasn't. Which the people DEI is supposed to support would probably agree to
skisnow@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 20h
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · -16 pts · 20h
Compared to good writing?
We aren't helping anyone by shoehorning random diversity stuff into cheap ass media. Sure we might have 20 out of place same sex relationships but god forbid if they were to touch on difficult topics. The people at the top make wild choices and are then rewarded because is supports the executives ideas about "diversity." In practice diversity is really just a marketing to make us forget about all the systemic problems in the world.
call_me_xale@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 17h
I'm sorry, I missed the part where its a tradeoff.
Also, what makes a same-sex relationship "out-of-place"? Gay people exist everywhere, my dude.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 19h
In what world are same-sex relationships not a difficult topic, because I would very much like to move there.
waldfee@feddit.org · 2 pts · 14h
If anything they're reinforcing that it's a difficult topic
1egg4u@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 20h
1egg4u@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 23h