Trump says he will declare Strait of Hormuz a US territory

https://www.thehill.com/homenews/administration/6030671-trump-says-strait-of-hormuz-us-territory/

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eager_eagle@lemmy.world · 236 pts · 4d (8 replies)

NateNate60@lemmy.world · 75 pts · 4d (4 replies)

affenlehrer@feddit.org · 21 pts · 4d

Abstract Art of the deal

Anivia@feddit.org · 12 pts · 4d (1 reply)

That game should really be called 4d chess with multiverse time travel. They "only" added two dimensions to regular chess, but in regular chess the pieces don't move in all 3 dimensions, only 2.

That being said I have almost 20 hours in this game and am still too stupid for it, even if it's "only" 4D 😭

BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk · 3 pts · 4d

It's unfortunately a bad strategy to branch into new timelines, making high level play look like regular chess. Until one player is far behind and will do a long jump back to try to rescue the game state

DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 4d

...but none of it is canon.

turdburglar@piefed.social · 8 pts · 4d

we had the same inclination. thank you internet twin.

greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 4d

Thank you, I came to see if this had been posted. I need this humor to deal with this bull shit.

Matth@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 4d

Michael Scott is really the perfect personnification!

rem26_art@fedia.io · 188 pts · 4d (5 replies)

ā€œPretty soon, I will be declaring the Hormuz Strait a territory of the United States,ā€ Trump said during an address highlighting his administration’s efforts to combat crime in the U.S.

That'll do it. That'll stop crime in the US for sure. I can follow the logic

Rhaedas@fedia.io · 57 pts · 4d (3 replies)

Only losers stick to a single topic. This guy multitasks like no other.

Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 4d (2 replies)

Nope. Not really. All this random multitasking, all the constant never ending bullshit. It's all actually 1 task.

That 1 task is called "Distract everybody from the epstein files"

AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 4d (1 reply)

Would he even lose his existing base at this point though?

Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 4d

I honestly think the vast majority would drop him. Its their hard line. For now they're denying he's in there. But hia plummeting popularity show that some republicans are in agreement that trump is guilty. Which is why they've stopped supporting him in recent years.

So I think his base would dramatically shrink. But not die.

obviouspornalt@fedinsfw.app · 1 pts · 3d
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Buffalox@lemmy.world · 106 pts · 4d (3 replies)

Absolutely brilliant Trump. And now that you are at it, why not declare China a US territory too?
I wonder why nobody thought of that before? I guess it's because they don't have big brains. 🤔 🤢 🤣

YouTalkinToMe@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 4d (2 replies)

Why not Taiwan? Then TSMC doesn’t have to build factories in the US.

kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 4d

Too late, China called dibs.

Buffalox@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d

Oh I thought he already did that. Must have slipped his mind. šŸ˜‹

Buffalox@lemmy.world · 85 pts · 4d (2 replies)

Hey poster, can you post a non amp link instead?
Here you are:
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/6030671-trump-says-strait-of-hormuz-us-territory/

return2ozma@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 4d (1 reply)

Fixed it. Sorry

Buffalox@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 4d

šŸ˜€ šŸ‘

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 70 pts · 4d (10 replies)

How does this dumbfuck manage to get STUPIDER with each passing day? It's like he's studying to get a PhD in Imbecility.

FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 4d (7 replies)

His brain is atrophying as his dementia continues to worsen.

valkyre09@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 4d (4 replies)

I guess there’s still hope then that one of these days a piece of the brain will die where he loses the ability to speak & move. I’ll sleep well tonight to the thought that this vile piece of shit could die slowly, alone and afraid šŸ¤—šŸ›ļø

echodot@feddit.uk · 12 pts · 4d

It will be hilarious if Biden out lives him

PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 4d

Watching him have a stroke live on TV would be so cathartic.

WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 3d (1 reply)

Die? I want them keeping him alive, as a vegetable, until he is 115.

limelight79@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3d

Reopen Fort Monroe. Specifically, The part where they kept Jefferson Davis.

neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 3d (1 reply)

Sure, but also, he was always a fucking idiot. He's never been smart,even by average idiot American standards.

FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3d

Yes, but he is getting noticeably worse.

MML@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 4d

Literally syphilis

Strider@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 4d

Lowering the bar, day by day.

popekingjoe@lemmy.world · 61 pts · 4d (1 reply)

flandish@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 4d

it’s an oldie but it checks out.

hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 40 pts · 4d

RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 4d

I’ll declare myself President of the United States.

Difference is I’d actually show up and do a better job.

radiofreebc@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 4d (8 replies)

Isn't it already in Iranian AND Omani waters? You can't just claim something someone already owns...especially a country you're not at war with (Oman).

GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca · 50 pts · 4d

As a matter of fact, you can! It's a great way to start wars and annex territories. Not so good for treaty negotiations, though.

givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 4d (4 replies)

You can’t just claim something someone already owns…especially a country you’re not at war with (Oman).

Buddy...

Most wars start because someone claimed someone else's territory...

kevincox@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 4d (1 reply)

Yeah, anyone can claim whatever they want. Making other people respect your claim is the hard part.

Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 4d

Alright. Thats it. I've had enough of these territory disputes. I declaire all of existence to be my territory. Yep. Every single atom that exists. All mine. I own everything now.

And for anyone who wishes to dispute this, the process is simple. Just take a number, use your toungue to write out a letter of dispute, directly onto my butthole! Anyone who doesn't do this respects my claim to everything.

dave@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 4d (1 reply)

I’m not your buddy, pal.

(that’s another way wars start)

givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d

Ok bubby

moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com · 8 pts · 4d

He just did. It's a violation of the UN charter, but that's kinda his schtick.

We just nerd other UN members to grow some balls and start issuing sanctions and embargoes on the US.

AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 4d

US colonialism has entered the chat

Abyssian@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 4d (1 reply)

Why not just follow Israel's lead and declare all other countries and the buildings and homes in them property of the United States?

Then everyone else becomes a criminal tresspasser terrorist and they have to do what we say because they're bad and we're right and it's normal and reasonable for us to zip tie a man's peener and parade him naked in front of his family, and shoot the kids if they so much as look at the rocks that are everywhere because we smashed their neighbors house into rubble the day before.

Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 6 pts · 4d

Basically Same energy

bfg9k@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 4d (1 reply)

I can declare whatever the fuck I want but it doesn't make it real you fuckass

I have just now declared that the USA is my territory.

See, nobody cares.

heartSagan5@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 3d

I mean, you’ve got to convince someone…usually at gunpoint (or worse).

cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca · 24 pts · 4d

And I declare that trump's rectum is a Putin territory.

Bwaz@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 3d (3 replies)

Iran should declare Florida an Iranian territory.

CorporalCookie@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 3d (1 reply)

It's all theirs

heartSagan5@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 3d

Right. No resistance from me. Of course, they’ll piss of their new landlords, and they’d try to return it.

mechoman444@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3d

Please take it. We don't need it any more. Plus you get all the scientologists.

CaptainBasculin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 23 pts · 3d (1 reply)

According to United States law, any children born in United States territory is considered an US citizen and regardless of the claim being legitimate or not according to the US it is their territory, therefore any child born there would be considered US citizen, basically allowing in free immigration from Iran.

MisterLister@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 3d

Republicans already seem intent on nullifying birthright citizenship, not that it would stop them from simply ignoring laws they don't like anyway...

Eryn6844@piefed.blahaj.zone · 22 pts · 4d (2 replies)

and i declare i am the empress of MARS. woop de dooo. the emperor has no clothes

echodot@feddit.uk · 11 pts · 4d (1 reply)

I wouldn't recommend the no clothes thing on Mars.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 4d

I wouldn't recommend the no clothes thing on Trump.

humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 3d

There is a far greater senility problem, than anyone could ever accuse Biden of having. The problem is greater because he has no handlers around him to filter the stupid.

Trump also announced a few weeks ago that the US would collect 20% tarrifs/tolls on all shipments in the SoH. He had to walk back the stupid 2 days later. The only path towards the stupidity becoming reality is if Iran or Oman becomes a US territory, although planting a US flag on a small rock near the SoH, and setting a precedent of whoever controls that rock has territorial control over the SoH (pure stupid), would legitimize Iran's full claim, after they kill all US troops on the rock.

This would justify immediate impeachment, or to at least force another cognitive test at congress's request for review by congress.

orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 19 pts · 4d
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 17 pts · 4d

until the markets open up on monday.

echodot@feddit.uk · 17 pts · 4d

Yeah I'm sure that will work.

UnLocoPoco@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 4d

Damn...I thought I was the emperor of the universe šŸ˜ž

aldhissla@piefed.world · 13 pts · 4d (7 replies)

Somebody tell this 🤔 (and Putin too) that annexations can happen after a war, not during. If you try to do reichskommissariats before the end of the war, you're in shitty company and people will take you less seriously.

HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 4d (5 replies)

Oh will the US have to give Hawaii back ...or is that different?

echodot@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 4d (1 reply)

I think the difference is that Hawaii was annexed in the 1890s not the 2020s things change over time.

HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 3d

LOL

aldhissla@piefed.world · 1 pts · 4d (2 replies)

Yes.

There is significant difference between the US' annexation of Hawaii and the fiascos of Russia annexing and then losing e.g. Kherson, or Trump claiming sovereignty over a piece of land he probably couldn't even control for a day, let alone keep indefinitely.

Edit: sry for the overly sarcastic tone before.

HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 3d (1 reply)

Oh, I see now! LOL

aldhissla@piefed.world · 1 pts · 3d

Edited to dial back on the snark

mrdown@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 3d

Only a fair referendum allow you to annex a region.

KulunkelBoom@lemmus.org · 13 pts · 4d (2 replies)

Trump declares the moon is his.

Film at eleven.

kat_angstrom@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 4d (1 reply)

But like, personally his, not America's.

limelight79@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 3d

Which reminds me, where is Venezuela's oil money going?

FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 4d (2 replies)

Anything to distract from the Epstein Files.

FaceDeer@fedia.io · 6 pts · 4d (1 reply)

Honestly, the "distractions" are at this point so far far worse than the Epstein files themselves are that I do kind of want to focus on them.

impairedimperator@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 4d

Dude probably doesn't even remember the files, he's just trying to do crazier shit than yesterday with the knowledge that if he can't do something crazier then people might catch up.

limonfiesta@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 4d

Listen and learn boys. This is 12D chess, straight from the grandmaster.

rottenmummy@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 4d

Probably will rename it strait of America as well

humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 4d (3 replies)

Sounds like he’s setting up justification for nukes. They attacked US territory.

M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 12 pts · 4d (2 replies)

That is a russian policy. But I see how you got the two failing empires mixed up.

DeLacue@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 4d (1 reply)

It's still possible that Trump has gotten his wires crossed and thinks it's an American thing. All it takes is one of his Russian handlers to mention that that's how it works in Russian and for him assume it's the same in the US. His brain isn't great with nuance after all. It's not like he understands the hows or whys of preexisting policies anyway.

M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 3d

And lets be fair, its how russia says it works. Its a big scary policy that after Ukraine attacked (with operators, drones and missiles) pre 2014 russian territory has become clear bullshit since no nukes are a flyin'.

So not only is it not an american thing (they have always just said they will nuke whatever the fuck they want when they want, to some extent) it is trumps favorite sort of policy, one that is just bluster and hot air.

Avicenna@programming.dev · 8 pts · 3d

I think at this point he is just jealous that he doesn't have a 10 year war like Vietnam to his name and this is why he is a acting like a spoiled little child regarding this.

craftrabbit@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 4d (1 reply)

Sure have fun

MML@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 4d

Slay Queen

BuckFutter@timeyak.com · 7 pts · 4d (2 replies)

This seems like a good candidate for one of those real men of genius commercials they used to do in the late 90’s. Shame this is reality.

Cricket@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 4d (1 reply)

Remember that those commercials used to say "real American heroes" instead of "real men of genius", until 9/11 happened.

BuckFutter@timeyak.com · 3 pts · 4d

Oh wow you’re right, I forgot that…that explains why they had a gap in the commercials around 9/11

aramis87@fedia.io · 6 pts · 4d (3 replies)

Please do it. Once he does it, we can complain about the inordinate number of aliens present and tell him he should send ICE there.

moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com · 4 pts · 4d (2 replies)

God, I would love to see ICE agents get massacred by Iran.

JackTea@piefed.world · 4 pts · 4d (1 reply)

Just the idea that Mealteam6 would be boots on the ground with jet lag, in a desert climate, and zero backup is just delicious

moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com · 1 pts · 3d

The straight is made of water. But I'd love to see them in a single boat get blown up with a single drone

molestme247@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 4d (1 reply)
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IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 4d
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melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 4d

To trumpy: The trump/epstein mp4's you degenerate pervert. Remember those? No matter what outrageous shit you do as a bona fide degenerate pervert the trump/epstein mp4 files will always be there. Deal with it motherfucker and hate us even more for it. Please clock, tick, tick, tick (embolism go BOOM!).

beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 4d

Man, I'm not pro china but dam if the sign out front changes I genuinely don't think it's a negative

darthsundhaft@piefed.social · 5 pts · 4d

Classic conquistador heritage strategy. Taking what isn't yours by force because you can't think of any other way other than violence against people who didn't want to deal with you in the first place.

::: spoiler more ranting
Typical fucking wanker. He'll rewrite every bit of history he doesn't like to satisfy his own ego no matter how cruel or vile.

Yeah, remember folks. Did you all see that article about how the Pentagon admitted to slaughtering civilians in that one US war crime? Yeah, they're still fucking doing that. STILL.

They're not even fucking hiding it anymore. They're literally telling you to your face that the US has committed the same stupid ass crimes the media portrays as only being done by other war powers.

THAT right there is the problem. This has never been a west vs east battle. This has always been a class war. The greedy and vengeful don't see anything other than a battlefield but they use the rest of us as pawns. They could give two shits if you or I die for their cause.

USA this, Russia that--who cares! What we should be doing is taking them all out. Don't like Trump? Guillotine. Don't like Putin? Guillotine. Kim Un? Guillotine. As entertaining as feeding them to wolves sounds, I wouldn't wish their filth to any animal as food. which should be enjoyed.
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mechoman444@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 3d

O shoot! We can do that? We can just do that? Alright. I call Ohio a mechoman444 territory!

LemmyBruceLeeMarvin@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 4d

See, he Declared it

nomecks@lemmy.wtf · 3 pts · 4d

I believe the standing order is that an attack on American territory can be met with nuclear deterrence.

Vandals_handle@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3d
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 4d

Good luck

moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com · 2 pts · 4d (1 reply)

There's historical precedent.

Isn't this what the British did with the Suez Canal? And the US with the Panama Canal?

JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org · 7 pts · 4d

Nope, the british gov buying shares in a french company or the US constructing the panama canal is not precedent to a mad president occupying international waterways on the other side of the globe

Aqivex@fedinsfw.app · 1 pts · 4d

... Wouldn't that then mean that every single US company would have an avenue to sue the US government for "negligence" in the handling of the Strait causing disruption?

LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 4d
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Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d

The question is, who is profiting off of this? I mean not Trump money, but real money (JP Morgan, Deutsche Bank, etc.)

Is it just a way to sell a few thousand missiles? I think there's more behind this (that Trump is unaware of, because he's a moron).

theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 4d

Really "protecting an international waterway" of him.

k0e3@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 3d

Ok

IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com · -1 pts · 4d (2 replies)

There's a game being played.

I forget the quote... But I once heard...

"[You can play chess] or you can be a chess piece yourself and get played to death."

There's a higher level of understanding reality outside of the way we are groomed to view reality. The best and shortest way to articulate it in this context is that our nations aren't at the top of the game. The nations are a tool to be used in the game. So if we are living under our nations than we are chess pieces used by someone else in the game.

We are influenced to be distracted from the higher reality. The more people that understand the higher reality of "The Game" means that the current players of the game have less control. So that's why narrations of distraction and manipulation are used to keep people divided and bickering over stupid emotional drama instead of understanding and playing the game.

They even will say they are teaching you to play the game... But usually that means they are using you. It's almost like the idea of spirituality or meditation, it's something you can't teach, it's something that's not tangible until you realize you attained. The understanding is not attached to a nation or a religion or any group and never will be if it's truth is authentic.

We gave power to our nations. We gave them the power to play "The Game" for us. We gave our lives to be their chess pieces. And since the nations are used as tools transnationally by the wealthy, we gave our lives to them.

HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 4d (1 reply)

I mean, yeah probably. Not some interconnected thing just a different world with different rules than we play by.

If I had to guess one thing based on this, I'd say climate change. As in the writing is on the wall, and everything happening boils down to power and money preparing for the end of civilization as we know it.

IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com · -1 pts · 4d

I generally write my posts for myself. Like just thinking out loud.

One thing I think people don't think about is how much we have as a modern civilization that is not necessary to living. It's these extras that keep people submissive to a darker side of humanity. And with the speed of everything changing we really aren't born into life with an understanding of what's not necessary, instead we are born into a world based off living for wants instead of needs. That's essentially what keeps all these issues I see people complain about growing.

No one makes true sacrifices to stop this trajectory. It's almost like modern life is a junky culture of people addicted to privileges that aren't necessary to their life. They will pay tax to kill people to keep that privilege and at the same time protest and beg for things to stop.

I know I'm part of the problem. I'm not trying to hate on anyone but it's something I feel like I can't deny is true. Like any addiction, I feel like understanding denial is the first step in true change.

I think understanding this denial helped me understand the real "game".

...Like, as a metaphor, I lived my entire life like a crack whore being offered useless shit in order to be submissive for my pimp to gain more control of the block, while watching the people on the block, under his control, turn into something that holds little genuine humanity anymore. It's like humanity is theater now and all the soul is distilled out of it, and what is distilled out is the fuel that keeps the dark side of humanity in control. And that's because people were taught to stop playing "The Game" and instead gave permission to some other entity(nation?) to do it for them.