We didn’t have selfie-cameras, so the only way to do a selfie was to throw your camera with a little spin on a short timer and hope it all looked great when one of your 24 photos were developed on bits of paper some time later…
You joke but you can actually get some neat photos doing this, assuming you are competent enough to catch your camera. Especially with a fast auto shutter.
Skate videos popularized the use of the fish eye lens. Music videos had people waving their hands around in the face of the camera because it looks cool through that lens. The idea was applied to still images, and this is the result.
Everybody is just trying to look cool. Everybody probably looks like a "poser" to someone else. And in a cruel twist of irony, the inventors and early adopters of some "cool" new thing, look derivative and boring years AFTER everyone else has done it. Kids don't have a long memory for these kinds of things; they grew up in a world where it was already old news and boring, never having experienced a world without it. This shift in perception can happen sometimes even among people old enough to have been there at the beginning. So yeah, they are just a bunch of posers trying to look cool, but aren't we all?
I was confused about how you would type with only your thumbs on a PC keyboard. Then I remembered that there are phones too and that I type with my thumbs on them...
(I found a surprising number of unfamiliar kinds of input devices when searching for ‘thumb keyboard’ just now — some of which I wouldn't mind trying like ten years ago.)
It's more for sporadic use in games, with TVs and such, when having a full-size keyboard is inconvenient. Presumably it could also be used with a tablet, but more typically it's a small on-desk keyboard, perhaps foldable.
I was thinking of buying something like this a bunch of years ago, when I was looking into sorta-ergonomic devices to diversify my time spent inputting stuff.
Some of these micro-keyboards have a touchpad, and on the ‘gamepad’ keyboard it's apparently on the back.
Look, it's the same every time a new gadget comes out and takes the world by storm only for it to become boring after a few years. If you weren't around in the late nineties it's hard to explain just how exciting fingers were.
Remember trying to use an ATM with your dick? I know women used to complain about having to use strap-ons, but I actually think they might have had it better. Those Braille bumps hurt
Coincidentally, women are pretty bad at straponning, because they lack the part of the dick that's inside the gooch and thus provides support in the action.
In the 90's and 00's there was a photographic movement to take photographs with more depth using more hand and arm movement to make more dynamic images. Some say it came from comic book artists and others say it started as everyone doing the double thumb and index finger as a ergatz frame gide of what you were about to film, but this time you were the subject.
Anyways it got popular so people with cheap cameras and phone cameras started propping them up and trying to do some of it and most of the time they didn't have enough time to get their hands right. So they started to take all these pictures of themselves with weird hands and people started doing it on purpose, and then photographers picked up on the trend.
Sure they existed around then, but go back and look at the photo quality. Phone cameras were a novelty in 2003, and anyone wanting to actually take a picture was still using a dedicated camera. No one was taking pictures like the ones we're talking about here on their Nokia
I loved the art for this album and styling on their name. Loved the album too as a kid, though most didn't age particularly well. Wes Borland is still awesome though.
So there is precisely one photograph of me on the internet and you just helped me prove to my wife that it's actually me because I'm doing that pose. WHO ELSE WOULD BE THAT RIDICULOUS.
Yesssss I've been trying to win this argument since like May now I get to pick brunch today
Well that big ass asteroid was coming in 2012 so we had to make sure and be ready to catch it. But since it's really big everybody had to work together to do so. Then we just yeeted that thing up like a volleyball and it went away. And that's why we're still alive today.
I liked MDMA with their crossover with dimethylphenethylamine. Their crossover with diacetylmorphine kind of left me yawning yet strangely craving for more.
I guess that’s the sound of huffing duster, I can’t remember the weird thing that always happened on dxm cos it’s been a while but yeah, I have abused the shit out of my body. Much, much less now though cos I can’t physically handle come downs anymore.
Things rapidly get larger then smaller, back and forth. For me, my vision would also sometimes do this thing where I'd have both eyes open, but it would look like I was winking one, then the other, back and forth really fast.
I also liked how even a little dxm would enhance weed like crazy.
It got to where I couldn't keep any liquid dxm down at all and I hated polystirex so robitussin in the blue bottle was the only thing that worked for me. Eventually I got tired of swallowing entire bottles of big, dry pills so I retired from it permanently.
I witnessed this in the 90s and 2000s. AFAIK, it started in rave culture. People would lace their fingers around glow sticks and wave them in front of a friend's face. I was told that the effect is really cool if your rolling on MDMA. However, I also saw Mormon kids doing it stone sober, because they're always imitating things they see without understanding the drug component (e.g. a Mormon kid at a local high school who wore a pacifier on a necklace -- an MDMA raver accessory to give something to chew on -- despite zero awareness of drugs).
Personally, I think these photos are a combination of raver culture seeping into the mainstream, along with a trend of "reversing subject and photographer".
It's just a trend, in the early nineties (maybe late eighties) every metal band with a new album had a black and white photo of the band, each member wearing sunglasses and a doofus smile.
This is being done today. Ever notice how Youtubers/streamers are always waving their hands across the screen like they're doing ninja chops or something.
Counterpoint: LB is, on average, alright with a couple of bangers. Wes Borland is an awesome guitarist, but Fred Durst is an embarrassing piece of shit.
It's one of music's greatest tragedies, that Limp Bizkit didn't have a better front man. The music is great but the lyrics and vocals are cringe worthy to the point of being unlistenable. And with a better front man they probably wouldn't have a name as stupid as Limp Bizkit.
That could be, I only heard a few of their hits. The thing I referred to just rubbed me the wrong way, and I and everyone else at school already hated fred durst because he's a pussy douchebag.
But at this concert the RATM member had climbed a light pole or something, all fucked up presumably. Durst saw him while being filmed and was like fuck this guy, kicing at the light pole and saying something to the effect of we should make him fall.
Fuck Fred Durst, Rage is better than any of their but-rock at limp biscuit. No offense if you like it.
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Hux@lemmy.ml · 237 pts · 1d
We didn’t have selfie-cameras, so the only way to do a selfie was to throw your camera with a little spin on a short timer and hope it all looked great when one of your 24 photos were developed on bits of paper some time later…
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 42 pts · 1d
I broke so many cameras this way...
AmyAye@nord.pub · 27 pts · 1d
You joke but you can actually get some neat photos doing this, assuming you are competent enough to catch your camera. Especially with a fast auto shutter.
gastroglizzy@piefed.social · 152 pts · 1d
Skate videos popularized the use of the fish eye lens. Music videos had people waving their hands around in the face of the camera because it looks cool through that lens. The idea was applied to still images, and this is the result.
rmuk@feddit.uk · 26 pts · 1d
I jumped in slow motion / off the curb.
Without a skateboard / that should look absurd!
But with my fisheye lens / hey, haven't ya heard?
I got the moves so smooth / to make ya mom say:
...those are some exceptionally smooth moves!
tetris11@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 1d
waumph
waumph
Uli@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 1d
Could make home movies with one of those
xspurnx@leminal.space · 2 pts · 1d
Underappreciated comment.
jim_v@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 1d
Hype Williams directed the music videos in the 90s-2000s with lots of contrast, bright colors, bright lights, and the fisheye lens.
If you look up some Busta Rhymes music videos you will see plenty of examples.
Simulation6@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 1d
It's weird but, without the sound track these gifs just look like a bunch of posers trying to look cool.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 20h
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but with the music it also looks that way to someone over twenty years old or so.
It was a remarkably stupid time, however even back then there were better music videos. E.g. stuff by Michel Gondry, Run Wrake, or Spike Jonze.
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 19h
It's all in the (fish)eye of the beholder.
Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 22h
Late 90s in a nutshell, to be honest.
Wolf314159@startrek.website · 2 pts · 19h
Everybody is just trying to look cool. Everybody probably looks like a "poser" to someone else. And in a cruel twist of irony, the inventors and early adopters of some "cool" new thing, look derivative and boring years AFTER everyone else has done it. Kids don't have a long memory for these kinds of things; they grew up in a world where it was already old news and boring, never having experienced a world without it. This shift in perception can happen sometimes even among people old enough to have been there at the beginning. So yeah, they are just a bunch of posers trying to look cool, but aren't we all?
CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
Why not take the still with a fisheye?
wopalopa@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 1d
that avril lavigne is taken with a fisheye lens
rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social · 5 pts · 1d
I think this is the biggest reason. But who am I? I know nothing.
zout@fedia.io · 1 pts · 1d
Is this a copy/paste of when this meme was psoted a few weeks ago? This comment really looks familiar...
gastroglizzy@piefed.social · 5 pts · 1d
No. I typed it with my own thumbs, from my own mind.
pheelicks@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 23h
I was confused about how you would type with only your thumbs on a PC keyboard. Then I remembered that there are phones too and that I type with my thumbs on them...
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 20h
There's also this kind of thing.
(I found a surprising number of unfamiliar kinds of input devices when searching for ‘thumb keyboard’ just now — some of which I wouldn't mind trying like ten years ago.)
pheelicks@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 15h
Is that a PC keyboard for people who learned to type on a phone?!
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 15h
It's more for sporadic use in games, with TVs and such, when having a full-size keyboard is inconvenient. Presumably it could also be used with a tablet, but more typically it's a small on-desk keyboard, perhaps foldable.
I was thinking of buying something like this a bunch of years ago, when I was looking into sorta-ergonomic devices to diversify my time spent inputting stuff.
Some of these micro-keyboards have a touchpad, and on the ‘gamepad’ keyboard it's apparently on the back.
zout@fedia.io · 2 pts · 1d
Fair enough, then it's on me for being too lazy to find what I thought I was referring to.
Denjin@feddit.uk · 74 pts · 1d
The photographer had a huge pair of beasts and they just couldn't help themselves but give em a little squeeze during thebphotoshoot
jade52@lemmy.ca · 85 pts · 1d
Those beasts must have been friendly if they were willing to be squeezed.
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 19 pts · 1d
That was part of her marketing schtick: Get a load of these photo bombs!
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 19h
I happen to have watched a pretty good film in which boobs were described as 'very friendly and unpretentious'. Said boobs weren't shown.
rmuk@feddit.uk · 66 pts · 1d
Look, it's the same every time a new gadget comes out and takes the world by storm only for it to become boring after a few years. If you weren't around in the late nineties it's hard to explain just how exciting fingers were.
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 1d
We had to do our finging manually before that. It was hell.
tempest@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 1d
And the there were only 4 fingers. Kids these days with their 6 or 7 fingers don't know what it was like
rmuk@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 1d
Remember trying to use an ATM with your dick? I know women used to complain about having to use strap-ons, but I actually think they might have had it better. Those Braille bumps hurt
over_clox@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1d
STRAP ON spelled backwards is NO PARTS
You're welcome.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 23h
This seems relevant: Go hang a salami, I'm a lasagna hog.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 1d
rmuk@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 1d
I will be using that knowledge irresponsibility. Thankyou.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 19h
Coincidentally, women are pretty bad at straponning, because they lack the part of the dick that's inside the gooch and thus provides support in the action.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
Yeah they digital now
eepydeeby@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 22h
Underrated joke 🎖️
buddascrayon@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
We also all suddenly had phones in our pockets and those phones had cameras in them.
tetris11@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 1d
and those cameras had wafers in them
WolvenSpectre@lemmy.ca · 53 pts · 1d
In the 90's and 00's there was a photographic movement to take photographs with more depth using more hand and arm movement to make more dynamic images. Some say it came from comic book artists and others say it started as everyone doing the double thumb and index finger as a ergatz frame gide of what you were about to film, but this time you were the subject.
Anyways it got popular so people with cheap cameras and phone cameras started propping them up and trying to do some of it and most of the time they didn't have enough time to get their hands right. So they started to take all these pictures of themselves with weird hands and people started doing it on purpose, and then photographers picked up on the trend.
protist@retrofed.com · 0 pts · 1d
Phone cameras weren't a thing in the 90s or 00s
UnityDevice@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 23h
I think 2003 is when they started taking off.
protist@retrofed.com · 1 pts · 22h
Sure they existed around then, but go back and look at the photo quality. Phone cameras were a novelty in 2003, and anyone wanting to actually take a picture was still using a dedicated camera. No one was taking pictures like the ones we're talking about here on their Nokia
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 22h
POV: you're boobs
orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts · 38 pts · 1d
Even Limp Bizkit’s “Significant Other” album art did it.
Dozzi92@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
I loved the art for this album and styling on their name. Loved the album too as a kid, though most didn't age particularly well. Wes Borland is still awesome though.
Consensusallthewaydown@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 1d
Nu-Metal Pose, meant to be a way of "connecting with the audience"
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 1d
Wait is it a numetal thing? That would explain me
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 1d
So there is precisely one photograph of me on the internet and you just helped me prove to my wife that it's actually me because I'm doing that pose. WHO ELSE WOULD BE THAT RIDICULOUS.
Yesssss I've been trying to win this argument since like May now I get to pick brunch today
crank0271@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 1d
Bonus points for doing the pose during brunch.
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1d
Congrats on the win! Pick something good.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
it was the place with the good bacon and eggs.
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 1d
You have chosen. . . .
. . .wisely.
Arigion@feddit.org · 30 pts · 1d
To show they were not AI generated. At that time AI usually got the number of fingers wrong. 😉
Etterra@discuss.online · 30 pts · 1d
Well that big ass asteroid was coming in 2012 so we had to make sure and be ready to catch it. But since it's really big everybody had to work together to do so. Then we just yeeted that thing up like a volleyball and it went away. And that's why we're still alive today.
tetris11@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 1d
I still remember Yeet Day fondly, the sandwiches afterwards were great
sirico@feddit.uk · 30 pts · 1d
Fisheye's became super popular because of skating is my uneducated guess
MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 1d
WAUGHMP WAUGHMP
Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 22h
It was the last decade of magic before the Chaos Lord drained all of it from the land.
Also, every video used a fisheye lense, it was the law of the land.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 21h
We were powerless to stop him. :(
Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 21h
Had I a First Born, I would trade them for those pants.
Karmanopoly@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 1d
They had to prove they weren't ai
rmuk@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 1d
Now I'm wondering if there's some heavily inbred guy out there constantly being accused of using AI for their selfies.
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 1d
There was that cat recently who holds the record for a crazy amount of toes. :3
AVincentInSpace@pawb.social · 18 pts · 1d
One might even say it was virtually insane of them to do this.
Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 22h
The future is made of Virtual Insanity, so this checks out.
Amuro_eat@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 16 pts · 1d
MDMA and DXM is my guess
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1d
I love those bands.
Amuro_eat@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 1d
I liked MDMA with their crossover with dimethylphenethylamine. Their crossover with diacetylmorphine kind of left me yawning yet strangely craving for more.
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 1d
So sad we lost DXM during covid. I know he was problematic but he was trying to reform and his music touched many lives
gastroglizzy@piefed.social · 7 pts · 1d
Hey, this guy knows how to party
Amuro_eat@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 1d
WEWEWEWEWEW
I guess that’s the sound of huffing duster, I can’t remember the weird thing that always happened on dxm cos it’s been a while but yeah, I have abused the shit out of my body. Much, much less now though cos I can’t physically handle come downs anymore.
gastroglizzy@piefed.social · 2 pts · 1d
Things rapidly get larger then smaller, back and forth. For me, my vision would also sometimes do this thing where I'd have both eyes open, but it would look like I was winking one, then the other, back and forth really fast.
I also liked how even a little dxm would enhance weed like crazy.
It got to where I couldn't keep any liquid dxm down at all and I hated polystirex so robitussin in the blue bottle was the only thing that worked for me. Eventually I got tired of swallowing entire bottles of big, dry pills so I retired from it permanently.
eurodyne@piefed.world · 2 pts · 1d
My friends and I called it “the whammy bar band”
Because we were stupid and high
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
You're not exactly right but you're not far off in my case. I have one of those photos
Amuro_eat@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 1d
It’s like if you move your face between your hands you cross into a different dimension. Drugs are so silly sometimes
Initech_vs_Initrode@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 22h
I witnessed this in the 90s and 2000s. AFAIK, it started in rave culture. People would lace their fingers around glow sticks and wave them in front of a friend's face. I was told that the effect is really cool if your rolling on MDMA. However, I also saw Mormon kids doing it stone sober, because they're always imitating things they see without understanding the drug component (e.g. a Mormon kid at a local high school who wore a pacifier on a necklace -- an MDMA raver accessory to give something to chew on -- despite zero awareness of drugs).
Personally, I think these photos are a combination of raver culture seeping into the mainstream, along with a trend of "reversing subject and photographer".
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 19h
Remarkable how I finally learn after all these years what those baffling things were for. At least I hope that your explanation is correct.
xia@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 20h
They were all proudly holding their new ϹƵɭǟɥվʭӀкɲNjǀлѕ, before it was erased from the timeline.
kwomp2@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 1d
It was pioneered way before 2000
kwomp2@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 1d
even though probably plagiarized
j_overgrens@feddit.nl · 4 pts · 1d
This is amazing.
kwomp2@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1d
yes, thanks for pointing that out. this little research made my morning. thanks everyone
Waffelmeister@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 22h
Team Foucault all the way. Chomsky folded like a cheap chair. /s
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 20h
Chomsky? Isn't that the guy that has ties to an international pedo ring?
Waffelmeister@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 20h
Noam Chomsky, Jeffrey Epstein and the Politics of Betrayal by Chris Hedges
Agent641@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 1d
That's when fingers began to fing
Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 22h
'They call 'em fingers, but I've never seen 'em fing...' -Otto
foggianism@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 1d
Biggie did it before
Exibit A
Exibit B
plz1@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 1d
More like late 90's lol. Man I feel so old.
Tooks@piefed.social · 12 pts · 1d
Casting spells, or maybe that was just me.
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 1d
Millennial version of tiktok hand-dancing
usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 1d
Jokes on them, I have all their fingerprints now
ProwlsInSoup@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1d
strop@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 1d
Because that year researchers discovered hands
DerEnder@lemmus.org · 6 pts · 1d
I am still thankful for that 🤗
zout@fedia.io · 8 pts · 1d
It's just a trend, in the early nineties (maybe late eighties) every metal band with a new album had a black and white photo of the band, each member wearing sunglasses and a doofus smile.
Tiral@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 22h
Same reason everyone started doing the stupid duck face shit in the 2010s then everyone started doing peace signs again.
The newest generation isn't immune to stupid shit just like every other decade isn't.
InvalidName2@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 1d
Everyone wasn't? But also, you ever heard of this thing called a "fad"? You best start believing in fads, you're in one.
protist@retrofed.com · 7 pts · 1d
I still have my pogs, I know any day now they'll be back in
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 1d
kboy101222@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1d
Thanks Captain Barbossa
JimFox@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 1d
bOObs
Mwa@thelemmy.club · 7 pts · 22h
is the guy at the 3rd image Limp Bizkit?
pjwestin@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 21h
No, that's Fred Durst. Limp Bizkt is the name of the doctor that created him.
Mwa@thelemmy.club · 3 pts · 19h
ohh right
Tja@programming.dev · 7 pts · 22h
It was before the invention of the duckface.
seerdomin1983@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 22h
You ain’t goin nowhere!
toiletobserver@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
rawr irl
SnerkRabbledauber@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 1d
Also the age of the super tall cameraman.
OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 20h
This is being done today. Ever notice how Youtubers/streamers are always waving their hands across the screen like they're doing ninja chops or something.
VinegarChunks@lemmus.org · 3 pts · 19h
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 1d
Clean hands are cool
rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 20h
I was doing that in the 90s, too, because I was pretending to be a wizard and going "Pyaaaah! Zapppp!"
Surp@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 22h
I don't know what to do with my hands
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 22h
They were confused. They thought the catch-phrase was "catch cheese" not "say cheese".
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 21h
This seems like the most-likely explanation.
qevlarr@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
OP discovers trends
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 1d
Creating wood glue "keys" from photos wasn't a thing back then.
Akasazh@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
Fashion
rmuk@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 1d
Malica@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 15h
Nepo photographer?
one_old_coder@piefed.social · 1 pts · 1d
At the time I was thinking that "they look fucking dumb," and it's still applicable. That's the answer.
bedwyr@piefed.ca · 0 pts · 1d
Idk but I do know that limp biscuit sucks and is totally lame.
Fred durst was talking shit about RATM member in the early 00's.
neidu3@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1d
Counterpoint: LB is, on average, alright with a couple of bangers. Wes Borland is an awesome guitarist, but Fred Durst is an embarrassing piece of shit.
hOrni@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
It's one of music's greatest tragedies, that Limp Bizkit didn't have a better front man. The music is great but the lyrics and vocals are cringe worthy to the point of being unlistenable. And with a better front man they probably wouldn't have a name as stupid as Limp Bizkit.
bedwyr@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 1d
That could be, I only heard a few of their hits. The thing I referred to just rubbed me the wrong way, and I and everyone else at school already hated fred durst because he's a pussy douchebag.
But at this concert the RATM member had climbed a light pole or something, all fucked up presumably. Durst saw him while being filmed and was like fuck this guy, kicing at the light pole and saying something to the effect of we should make him fall.
Fuck Fred Durst, Rage is better than any of their but-rock at limp biscuit. No offense if you like it.
neidu3@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1d
I wouldn't say I'm a particular fan, I just like a couple of their songs. I too prefer RATM, though.