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daannii@lemmy.world · 186 pts · 12d (24 replies)

Yeah you can't. So you are going to have to use something else. I found that duck duck go allows you to turn AI off.

I use it now. On Firefox.

I realize it's a shit post. I'm just commenting a fyi for people who might want an answer.

Zachariah@lemmy.world · 56 pts · 12d

For your private browsing tabs: https://noai.duckduckgo.com/

EntheoNaut@lemmy.ml · 34 pts · 12d (13 replies)

I use it now. On Firefox.

This is how it’s done.

I haven’t googled anything in years.

modus@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 12d (10 replies)

So what verb do we start using then? Duckling? Ask Jeeving? Yandexing?

Makeshift@sh.itjust.works · 36 pts · 12d (1 reply)

Honestly just "searched" is probably fine.

tomi000@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 12d

Yeah. In this day and age noone will think you went to a library to look it up.

Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 16 pts · 12d

Just use "search"; we don't want to make a company name the new synonym for search otherwise we are stuck with that company when it gets evil

woelkchen@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 11d (1 reply)

Googling. That's how you invalidate a trademark.

logi@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 11d

Thanks. I might just Hoover up your ideas and Xerox them for my Ziploc of tricks.

*I'm not American and would never use any of those words.

EntheoNaut@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 12d

Search

AmyAye@nord.pub · 7 pts · 12d

Searching.

scytale@piefed.zip · 5 pts · 12d

I use ddg or ddg’d.

Mooserider@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 12d

I'm actively still using "google" to turn it into a common verb and make Alphabet lose the rights to the word.

daannii@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 12d

Quaking ?

a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 12d

Nah, use it on the DDG browser for extra cool.

DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 11d

I'm trying to not use Google or YouTube starting this month, at least for this month. (i.e. September 2026)

(So far so good. :)

im_fine_sandy@nord.pub · 12 pts · 12d (1 reply)

I've switched to kagi.

It's not free, but it's absolutely the best IMO.

When I search something I don't see an AI summary. Not sure if I disabled that or not.

jh34@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 11d

It only triggers if you end the query with a ? or you can turn that off too in the settings https://kagi.com/settings/ai

FluidBeef@quokk.au · 8 pts · 11d (1 reply)

I wanted to use Ecosia but they won’t let you 100% disable AI, which is fucked for a supposedly green venture for so many reasons.

Samsy@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 11d

For 8 searches we burn a tree with our AI.

Space_Cowboy92@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 11d (4 replies)

DuckDuckGo now has their own browser that blows FF out of the water.

Edit: Chromium, don’t bother.

jnod4@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 11d (2 replies)

If its chromium then don't bother, let's not forget how Google tried to take over the Internet through chromium browsers

Space_Cowboy92@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 11d (1 reply)

Damn :( I just looked and it is. Back to FF!

moopet@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 11d

I thought the DDG browser was Firefox with some branding and plugins?

Yaky@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 10d

On iOS a few years ago, I prefered it to FF or Safari.

However, its "tracker protection" is questionable sometimes. They will list Google or Meta as enabled on site "to prevent breakage", but do not give user an option to still disable it.

popekingjoe@lemmy.world · 128 pts · 12d (23 replies)

I've learned that if I absolutely have to use Google for something (which is very rare), appending a curse word with the minus symbol (i.e. "-fuck" or "-shit") completely bypasses the ai mode since its designed to not engage with curse words, and the minus tells the search engine portion to disregard this word in the search results.

It's not perfect, but it makes me feel a little better, y'know?

VeganBtw@piefed.social · 56 pts · 12d (17 replies)

Well that won't help me find scat porn at all then!

vrek@programming.dev · 27 pts · 12d (15 replies)

Bing is better for porn anyways

fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com · 23 pts · 12d (8 replies)

Bing is good for something?

vrek@programming.dev · 19 pts · 12d (7 replies)

Mostly only porn, their video search/player for porn sites is far superior to google's

cinoreus@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 11d (6 replies)

Nah, yandex is the best. Especially if you want to bypass or get paywalled content. It's a Russian search engine

vrek@programming.dev · 2 pts · 11d (5 replies)

Ok, haven't tried that. Bing is better than Google, yandex might be better I don't know

JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 12d (4 replies)

A fellow man of culture.

Wanna see the whole scene? Bing both actresses names and turn on adblock, maybe double wrap that adblock.

Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 8 pts · 12d (3 replies)

double wrap that adblock

Do you mean using 2 adblockers? I suggest to not do it because they will be in conflict and actually block less stuff, if you want to block even more stuff i suggest to use a DNS-level tracker/adblocker

JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 11d (1 reply)

Just like how 2 condoms is less effective?

Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 2 pts · 11d

Exactly

JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 11d

What you want is an adblocker and a javascript blocker. It's more work on your part to get certain webpages working, but well worth it for the extra security.

lyralycan@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 11d

Yeah there was a long period of time when all you have to do is search "Imgur" and you get a ton of gonewild posts (and creepy Russian photos of femme children but we don't talk about the normalisation of softcore CSAM in some areas). Interesting algorithm they have.

Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 11d

Zibbity zoop! Gimme dat poop!

rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 11d

Useful except when the solution to some problem is to be found in the responses of an old forum post which reads something like, "how do I fix this fucking shit?"

AmyAye@nord.pub · 8 pts · 12d (2 replies)

"When was the fucking war of 1812?"

rumba@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 11d

result: pornhub.com 2007, with actress...

IpsumLauren@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 12d
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Fredselfish@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 12d

Apparently it doesn't I cuss all I want it responds.

YoiksAndAway@lemmy.zip · 30 pts · 12d (6 replies)

https://udm14.com/ I automatically type "14" in the address bar now and choose it from the dropdown menu.

trevdog@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 12d (1 reply)

I don't use Google for a while now because of the ads and garbage they present ahead of real results, but I remember when you used to just get what you searched for and this is close to that. pretty cool.

phar@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 12d (2 replies)

Why not just make it so you search in that as the default instead of typing 14?

YoiksAndAway@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 12d (1 reply)

I probably should. I have a searXng instance as default, but their results are never as good as udm14, so I got used to just going there.

toynbee@piefed.social · 4 pts · 12d

If you're on Firefox, you could also set a keyword. I haven't used one in a while but IIRC you would then just type !u search terms (replacing the u with whatever you configured).

dan@upvote.au · 7 pts · 12d

You can also get to this through the Google search UI, too. It's the "Web" tab.

Homo_Erectus@lemmy.zip · 29 pts · 12d

More like "you can't"

DoctorWhoDMC@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 11d (4 replies)

Not only has AI made traditional Googling more difficult, but it's also just clogging up the search results no matter what search engine you choose...

Also, I miss Pinterest.

drath@lemmy.drath.ru · 19 pts · 11d (1 reply)

Also, I miss Pinterest.

Wait, what? Why? Are you talking about the same Pinterest as that search-result-clogging, not ever leading to originals, spamming and content-obscuring piece of shit website?

DoctorWhoDMC@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 11d

At least the images clogging your search results were real images, not simulacrum…

SoulKaribou@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 11d
Dozzi92@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 11d

Was with you til the end there. I use the personal blocklist extension, and I got it specifically for pinterest. It's grown to include others, but Pinterest was the beginning.

gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 19 pts · 12d

Switch search engine

StrassMav@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 18 pts · 11d (5 replies)

The real question is why use Google for 99% of searches? There are very few searches where Google is "necessary,"(debatable still).

mika_mika@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 11d (1 reply)

For me so far, convenience on mobile when looking up information on physical places and business. I get the phone number, address, and hours of operation without clicking a link.

As I'm transitioning to using Ecosia, that's what I find myself going back to Google search for most frequently. I tried switching to clicking links on Ecosia to find a phone number to call, and quickly came to the conclusion the websites are enshittified also, or at least ridiculous to navigate and find useful information. On at least one occasion already Google has had the phone number listed at the top of Search for an organization that just didn't have a phone number provided from themselves anywhere online. (Okay, maybe they had it on their Facebook page, but I'm trying to improve my user experience not soil it).

ouRKaoS@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 9d

the websites are enshittified also

Enshittification feedback loop.

Websites don't have to provide relevant information quickly anymore, because Google is doing that for them.

story@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 11d (2 replies)

i still use Google for speed testing bc it works better than ookla

is there a good alternative that I'll feel good about using?

zqps@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 11d

All public speed tests are nonsense in private use, unfortunately. The ISPs magically find the capacity you've been looking for, but only for that connection.

techt@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 11d

I use cloudflare's, haven't heard any reason yet why that's worse than any owned by an ISP

thisbenzingring@lemmy.today · 13 pts · 12d

They installed an app on Android recently and it's just called Google but really it's their AI app. You can uninstall it. Who knows if it'll reinstall itself...

Treczoks@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 11d (2 replies)

Is there a link to this page, so we can all use the "I have the same question" button?

minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 11d (1 reply)

Doesn't matter. The thread is just locked and ignored forever by Google. There are thousands of such issues and complaints across all Google products, and that's how they deal with it.

forkDestroyer@infosec.pub · 11 pts · 11d

But I want to see number go up!!!

snoons@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 12d

Non-Issue

not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 11d (2 replies)

just put &udm=14 at the end of the url pr make your default search engine :

https://www.google.com/search?q=%25s&udm=14

DakRalter@thelemmy.club · 3 pts · 10d

And then change the url to duckduckgo.com.

lawks@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 11d

udm=web now. Also, your all(?) examples get the %s mangled by URL format correction, so should be:

https://www.google.com/search?q=%25s&udm=web

but change the %25s to %s.

MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 11d

This userscript works for me.

Areldyb@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 12d
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 11d

The only other way that I personally know on how to get around the google AI is when you search something at the end of the search type (-AI) that seems to work well.

toastadar@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 12d

The search modifier NOT seems to still work (for now), if you can't use anything else

https://www.google.com/search?q=test+-womp

https://www.googleguide.com/minus_operator.html

HeHoXa@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 11d

Google's core ranking algorithm and traditional results list rely heavily on AI and machine learning models, completely separate from generative summaries or AI overviews.