Recently did a watch of Rear Window (1954), and yeah, there's a scene in the beginning where the main character's nurse calls the main character "young man". Main character (Jimmy Stewart?) was 46 at the film's release.
I remember this on older busses and coaches as a child, and the ashtrays on the back of seats. Mustve been wack in the 1990s with how much indoor smoking was still accepted.
Sunlight is the big factor in premature aging of the skin and especially face. Cigarettes are said to be a big factor too, as is hard liquor to excess.
Also pesticides were even more unregulated than they are now. Remember how they just sprayed DDT everywhere in the 40's till the 70's. Even on directly on people. Shit had multigenerational consequences, even grandchildren of people who had a high exposure to that stuff are being affected.
Few people are as consistently stressed as Tony Soprano. Sure, he's got the big house, the big car, the ridiculously understanding wife, but he also has had to kill a few family members and more friends than is usually healthy. Once, he got a good friend indebted to him then burnt down his restaurant. All this while trying to keep two steps ahead of the feds. That lifestyle would age anyone.
Jim Gandalfini? Yeah I knew him. I knew him when he was a young, unshaven actor, before he fell, and spent forty years battling the foul Morgul stench. He emerged from that an aged man, his stubbled chin showing hints of grey, body and mind exhausted in spite of a great victory over the dark side. He took to wearing nothing but bathrobes, and rested heavily on his staff when he had to walk. His recovery was heavily reliant on resting his mind with the weed leaf, and rejuvenating his mind amongst the gardens and feasts of middle America, off the beaten track, as aeons passed him by. Soon, the great evil mustered its strength once more, and he again took to the battlegrounds of the Midwest, or as it was then known, middle earth...
All due respect, you got no fuckin' idea what it's like to be Number One. Every decision you make affects every facet of every other fuckin' thing. It's too much to deal with almost. And in the end you're completely alone with it all.
Every time an old tells me something is unhealthy, mostly an old salt I do treework with, I tell him his generation is the reason why I have plastic in my nutsack and to keep his pack a day health advice to himself.
Ha ha ha, sorry my bad. Don't give the American Chemistry Cunts (edit: chemical industry trade group,) any ideas, they will pay our lawmakers to say that shit for real.
Edit: Thanks for letting us know. Just looked it up, in 94 a seig heil, then in 2016 or something that and worse, from the lead singer. Shit, I listen to them a bit, but never did before, I had no idea just thought it was kind of catchy and different from my normal rock and blues and jazz and electronic.
That sucks, I just got into them a bit, not much but working out just as a change of pace sometimes, and I endorsed them to a few people too. I guess I need to read about bands before I listen to them.
I'm sure there are plenty of metal bands I could get into that aren't nazis I just have to look for them.
I think that's a running joke in metal circles. You hear a band that sounds awesome and you spend the rest of the show researching to see if they're Nazis before buying any merch.
ever since i found out about this a few years ago i'm telling everyone i meet: there's fantastic medication (finasteride) against hair loss, and it even causes side effects! such as mild boob growth
note that only some meds to that, while others do not.
There was a real missed opportunity to have a picture of Jason Alexander (who was in his 30's during most of Seinfeld's production) instead of James Gandolfini.
My wife and I were watching an episode of Frasier and he states that he’s 38 years old at one point. We were both like YEAH FUCKIN RIGHT. I’m 45 and look closer to the person on the right, but I also don’t give a shit about “dress your age” nonsense. I’m not going to willingly age myself up.
He was actually 41 in the show. In real life Frasier’s actual age was 38 so Hollywood went backwards and casted a younger person then the character. Cigarrettes had such a massive effect on people’s looks back then.
Yeah, around that age is when the accumulated damage of poor choices start becoming more evident, IMHO.
I have a friend who doesn't sleep, has ADHD, drinks and smokes a lot, uses vyvanse, and he still looks fine as fuck, despite being a little bit overweight. He's on his late 30s though, good appereance genes for sure.
They were all racist as hell. Do you know how man times Darrell and Vinnie have been recorded casually saying racist shit, including casual use of the n word, over the years?
The opening to Cowboys from Hell sounds like when my air conditioner's motor run capacitor started leaking and the motor would kinda ramp up at first and then just get stuck semi-stalling.
Water, sunscreen. I feel like it was more common in the past to cast a far older person than the age of the character they were playing too on screen. There is also makeup, style choices and clothes that can influence a view quite a bit.
So what's the deal? Sun tan lotion, all the antioxidants we were/are all huffing with various teas, and of course the avocado toast? (disclaimer, sounds interesting but have never eaten that)
There's no reason to dress like a teenager in your 30s. I mean, feel free to do so if you like the style, but don't be scared to go for a more sophisticated or professional look.
Maybe we should simply mature as a species and realize that we shouldn't judge people on clothing beyond basic standards of modesty and hygiene. It's just cloth. I don't want to have to work with someone of any gender that's not wearing tops and bottoms. But as long as your groin is covered and your bare chest isn't showing, we shouldn't care what someone wears, as long as its clean and well kept.
The entire idea of "professional" clothing in the first place is to separate people into artificial social classes to make them easier to divide and conquer. If the guys in the office and on the shop floor are both wearing jeans and t-shirts, it's easier for them to feel solidarity with each other. Are you a factory owner? Make the guys on the shop floor wear coveralls while the guys in the office wear suits, and now you've separated your employees into two distinct camps you can play off against each other. And if you make it so "the professionals" who make the decisions are visually distinct from the common laborers, it cements their position of authority and encourages obedience.
"Professional attire" has always been about control. Nothing more.
Fuck that, I’m not a trained animal (or any animal of any kind. Definitely 100% human.) and I refuse to live my life performing for others. Outside of the necessary things (work, rent, etc…), don’t do things you don’t like. Nothing is more childish than thinking there are rules for being an adult.
127 Comments
Yew@lemmy.world · 127 pts · 1d
Recently watched The Seven Year Itch (1955) and the man claims to be 37. He looks like a young 50. Cigarettes.
VeganBtw@piefed.social · 84 pts · 1d
Just watched One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and Nicholson was 38 during filming. I thought he looked 50 too.
kurwa@lemmy.world · 66 pts · 1d
Nah he looks 38 lol
Viceversa@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 1d
No, he definitely looks well into 45+
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 1d
I’m just a few months behind that… no he does not.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 23h
I’m 38. He does not look 38.
majster@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 14h
He does. Its just the hairstyle
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 11h
And the creases.
kurwa@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3h
You mean wrinkles?
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 3h
Yep. English and their 100 case-dependent meanings.
kurwa@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3h
Well he doesn't look 50 that's for sure. His hairline isn't great, but people in their 20s can have a fucked up hairline.
RebekahWSD@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
As I get older, the more I agree
Rumo161@feddit.org · 5 pts · 1d
Maybe a ripe 32 if you ask me.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 1d
16 going on 35.
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 23h
Bottom half looks 38. Top half looks 48.
DahGangalang@infosec.pub · 17 pts · 1d
Recently did a watch of Rear Window (1954), and yeah, there's a scene in the beginning where the main character's nurse calls the main character "young man". Main character (Jimmy Stewart?) was 46 at the film's release.
Wild.
WappleFF27@feddit.online · 15 pts · 1d
When I was a kid, restaurants still smelled like tobacco.
Didn't really stop until early 2000's
Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 20h
I remember this on older busses and coaches as a child, and the ashtrays on the back of seats. Mustve been wack in the 1990s with how much indoor smoking was still accepted.
dontgogettingtooclever@piefed.social · 2 pts · 19h
I don't know what it peaked, but by the 90s presence of smoking was trending downwards
bedwyr@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 23h
Sunlight is the big factor in premature aging of the skin and especially face. Cigarettes are said to be a big factor too, as is hard liquor to excess.
Themosthighstrange@lemmy.world · 103 pts · 1d
yes the thing that changed was lead posioning from gas and chain smoking cigs starting at 12
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 9h
Also pesticides were even more unregulated than they are now. Remember how they just sprayed DDT everywhere in the 40's till the 70's. Even on directly on people. Shit had multigenerational consequences, even grandchildren of people who had a high exposure to that stuff are being affected.
LittleBorat3@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 12h
I smoked from 15 to 30 drank every weekend in the same time. 40 now and I look more like the one on the right
danielfm123@lemmy.zip · 78 pts · 1d
The one in the left married at 23 and his 4 kids.
forkDestroyer@infosec.pub · 15 pts · 1d
That explains a lot, what with the sleep deprivation and drastic lifestyle changes brought on my most kids.
IamLost@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 21h
Ugh married his 4 kids too that's sick
queermunist@lemmy.ml · 71 pts · 1d
In addition to people not smoking anymore, direct Sun exposure has dropped dramatically too.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 43 pts · 20h
Lots of very important things, but mostly the smoking.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 19h
And that nobody has AIDS.
cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 9h
Also having kids.
tdawg@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 1d
Great example of how stress ages you
Photonic@lemmy.world · 83 pts · 1d
Not stress, smoking, drinking and no sunscreen does that to you.
I don’t think stress is any less, but actually more than in the 90’s
WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 1d
Few people are as consistently stressed as Tony Soprano. Sure, he's got the big house, the big car, the ridiculously understanding wife, but he also has had to kill a few family members and more friends than is usually healthy. Once, he got a good friend indebted to him then burnt down his restaurant. All this while trying to keep two steps ahead of the feds. That lifestyle would age anyone.
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 1d
None of that was real though lol.
To be fair, I don't know much about James Gandilfini.
OrteilGenou@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 1d
Jim Gandalfini? Yeah I knew him. I knew him when he was a young, unshaven actor, before he fell, and spent forty years battling the foul Morgul stench. He emerged from that an aged man, his stubbled chin showing hints of grey, body and mind exhausted in spite of a great victory over the dark side. He took to wearing nothing but bathrobes, and rested heavily on his staff when he had to walk. His recovery was heavily reliant on resting his mind with the weed leaf, and rejuvenating his mind amongst the gardens and feasts of middle America, off the beaten track, as aeons passed him by. Soon, the great evil mustered its strength once more, and he again took to the battlegrounds of the Midwest, or as it was then known, middle earth...
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 23h
Neat TIL
FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 1d
Wouldn’t it be great if that was true
Photonic@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
I’m talking more about the 90’s in general
noxypaws@pawb.social · 5 pts · 1d
All due respect, you got no fuckin' idea what it's like to be Number One. Every decision you make affects every facet of every other fuckin' thing. It's too much to deal with almost. And in the end you're completely alone with it all.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 19h
Edie Falco in one of the later seasons gave one of the most impressive and stunning acting performances that I have ever witnessed on TV.
When she screams at Tony to get out of the house, she could shatter hearts with that voice.
Just came to think of it seeing as this is a shitpost or whatever.
WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 18h
Yeah, she really was incredible when the writers gave her something to do.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
Gandolfini was also an addict too
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1d
Awful example. The 90s had WAAAAAAAAY less stress than today.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 19h
Yeah but we didn't know that!
marcos@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 1d
Yep, It's not only cigarettes, but air pollution too.
Impleader@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 1d
And the gabagool
marcos@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
What is gabagool? Looks like some kind of salted meat.
Impleader@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
It’s New Jersey Italian-American for capicola. Kind of like prosciutto
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 1d
Sounds like the name of the ghost in a horror movie.
ElReatonVaquer0@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
Or a 60s horror-themed band name...
Tony and his Gabba-Ghouls
Listen to their greatest hits: Oh Poor You! (Wish The Lord Would Take Me)
At an Irish Bar In Hell
Beware Three o' Clock
Got No Spleen, Gene!
ElReatonVaquer0@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 22h
It's nothing but fat and nitrates!
M137@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 12h
And the gobbledygook
monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 1d
It’s the micro plastics
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 1d
Liquid Plastic Surgery in a Bottle
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 1d
The bottle is your testicles.
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 1d
Every time an old tells me something is unhealthy, mostly an old salt I do treework with, I tell him his generation is the reason why I have plastic in my nutsack and to keep his pack a day health advice to himself.
bedwyr@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 23h
There weren't microplastics in their bodies to speak of, this is like 95% just in the past two decades.
monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 23h
Yeah the micro plastic is a preservative.
bedwyr@piefed.ca · 4 pts · 23h
Ha ha ha, sorry my bad. Don't give the American Chemistry Cunts (edit: chemical industry trade group,) any ideas, they will pay our lawmakers to say that shit for real.
realitista@lemmus.org · 24 pts · 1d
I've heard it attributed to drinking more water.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 21h
I'm 40 and I look like the second picture
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 22 pts · 21h
I have the body of the left but the clothing of the right.
sunbytes@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 14h
The gabagool has a hold on you
Opisek@piefed.blahaj.zone · 21 pts · 1d
Pantera though
sik0fewl@piefed.ca · 4 pts · 1d
Must be a Nazi-loving stoner.
bedwyr@piefed.ca · 7 pts · 23h
Pantera is nazi?
Edit: Thanks for letting us know. Just looked it up, in 94 a seig heil, then in 2016 or something that and worse, from the lead singer. Shit, I listen to them a bit, but never did before, I had no idea just thought it was kind of catchy and different from my normal rock and blues and jazz and electronic.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/jan/26/pantera-shows-cancelled-after-frontmans-nazi-salute-prompts-fan-backlash
2piradians@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 18h
Phil Anselmo always came off like an angry white supremacist, but then in 2015 he expressed regret about Pantera's past use of the confederate flag.
Dimebag's views were racist as fuck. It's really a shame considering all his musical talent.
bedwyr@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 9h
That sucks, I just got into them a bit, not much but working out just as a change of pace sometimes, and I endorsed them to a few people too. I guess I need to read about bands before I listen to them.
I'm sure there are plenty of metal bands I could get into that aren't nazis I just have to look for them.
Cenzorrll@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 6h
I think that's a running joke in metal circles. You hear a band that sounds awesome and you spend the rest of the show researching to see if they're Nazis before buying any merch.
BlackVenom@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
Lawsuit intensifies
bedwyr@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 23h
And weed.
Photonic@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 1d
30 is the new 20
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1d
As a 30+, that's so sweet, and so wrong :p
Photonic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
Zacryon@feddit.org · 20 pts · 19h
Yes, but the hair loss is real.
gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org · 8 pts · 13h
ever since i found out about this a few years ago i'm telling everyone i meet: there's fantastic medication (finasteride) against hair loss, and it even causes side effects! such as mild boob growth
note that only some meds to that, while others do not.
tipicaldik@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 1d
pfff... they both look like high schoolers from the 1950's.
SirSamuel@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 23h
There was a real missed opportunity to have a picture of Jason Alexander (who was in his 30's during most of Seinfeld's production) instead of James Gandolfini.
Still true tho
orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts · 17 pts · 23h
My wife and I were watching an episode of Frasier and he states that he’s 38 years old at one point. We were both like YEAH FUCKIN RIGHT. I’m 45 and look closer to the person on the right, but I also don’t give a shit about “dress your age” nonsense. I’m not going to willingly age myself up.
Pacattack57@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 21h
He was actually 41 in the show. In real life Frasier’s actual age was 38 so Hollywood went backwards and casted a younger person then the character. Cigarrettes had such a massive effect on people’s looks back then.
orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts · 1 pts · 18h
Oh wow, that tracks. My parents smoked for most of my childhood. I’ve never taken it up and never will.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 19h
I'm from the shtreets! I dress shrtreet! If you don't like it, you can come rip these clothes right off my sexy naked body
orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts · 1 pts · 16h
A motto to live by.
Nonprophet@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 21h
Wasn't Tony in his 40's?
Please say Tony was in his 40's!!!
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 23 pts · 21h
Tony was 41 per the pilot script but the actor was 38.
AJ is now 41 in 2026.
synae@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 15h
George Costanza was in his 30s throughout the run of seinfeld
NEZ27@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 21h
After a few seasons yeah
MountainVeil@slrpnk.net · 12 pts · 23h
We quirked too close to the chungus.
Almacca@aussie.zone · 11 pts · 20h
When I was in my twenties people thought I looked older. Now I'm in my fifties, and people think I look much younger.
berrodeguarana@lemmy.eco.br · 2 pts · 8h
Yeah, around that age is when the accumulated damage of poor choices start becoming more evident, IMHO.
I have a friend who doesn't sleep, has ADHD, drinks and smokes a lot, uses vyvanse, and he still looks fine as fuck, despite being a little bit overweight. He's on his late 30s though, good appereance genes for sure.
GroundedGator@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 20h
This is the best news I've gotten all week. I look like a less balding 90s 30. That's great for being 45.
Does anyone else tell themselves all the other dads they meet are actually much younger than you?
darthsundhaft@piefed.social · 10 pts · 1d
High key, Pantera has great music.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 28 pts · 1d
Too bad the lead singer turned out to be a Nazi.
Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 1d
You mean you’re shocked to learn that a band that waved the rebel flag turned out to be racists?
darthsundhaft@piefed.social · 11 pts · 1d
Bummer. Let's boycott them then. 🤘
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 1d
🤘
Jiggle_Physics@quokk.au · 4 pts · 20h
They were all racist as hell. Do you know how man times Darrell and Vinnie have been recorded casually saying racist shit, including casual use of the n word, over the years?
yucandu@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1d
The opening to Cowboys from Hell sounds like when my air conditioner's motor run capacitor started leaking and the motor would kinda ramp up at first and then just get stuck semi-stalling.
crank0271@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 9h
Sick. I would probably leave it that way for a while.
Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 22h
Fuckin' nazis.
Simulation6@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 21h
Individual genetics are probably more important. I had an uncle that liked like he was 42 when he was really 20-63.
gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org · 10 pts · 13h
true. i saw some people who were 80 and looked like 250. like walking corpses. incredible. probably waaay too many sunburns, etc.
moth@anarchist.nexus · 9 pts · 1d
less people smoke and drink. drug use also peaked in the 90s, and has been steadily declining since.
ekZepp@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 9h
Rawrosaurus@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 21h
Water, sunscreen. I feel like it was more common in the past to cast a far older person than the age of the character they were playing too on screen. There is also makeup, style choices and clothes that can influence a view quite a bit.
FluidBeef@quokk.au · 6 pts · 21h
omg Gandalf really was only 38 when it started!
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl · 6 pts · 1d
is a mix of not smoking and OP hanging on to the last remaining slivers of youth he has
DevDave@piefed.social · 4 pts · 21h
So what's the deal? Sun tan lotion, all the antioxidants we were/are all huffing with various teas, and of course the avocado toast? (disclaimer, sounds interesting but have never eaten that)
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 2h
Guy on left can afford nice shirt.
db2@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
Should be in shitpost
criss_cross@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 20h
Wow I’m in this pic and I don’t like it.
Well except the Pantera thing. Fuck promoting Phil Anselmo at this point.
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 9h
This gives a pretty good explanation of the psychology
https://youtu.be/vjqt8T3tJIE
chromacollector@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 20h
too real
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 19h
Forget about it.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1d
You just got older.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
Name three of their songs.
Or, is that the name of the strain?
___f____g___@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1d
Treat yourself to some hair metal era Pantera 🤘
fisch@lemmy.world · -20 pts · 1d
There's no reason to dress like a teenager in your 30s. I mean, feel free to do so if you like the style, but don't be scared to go for a more sophisticated or professional look.
nullspace@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 1d
Montagge@lemmy.zip · 28 pts · 1d
I'm going to dress like grunge is still at it's peak until I die
isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 24 pts · 1d
Maybe we should simply mature as a species and realize that we shouldn't judge people on clothing beyond basic standards of modesty and hygiene. It's just cloth. I don't want to have to work with someone of any gender that's not wearing tops and bottoms. But as long as your groin is covered and your bare chest isn't showing, we shouldn't care what someone wears, as long as its clean and well kept.
The entire idea of "professional" clothing in the first place is to separate people into artificial social classes to make them easier to divide and conquer. If the guys in the office and on the shop floor are both wearing jeans and t-shirts, it's easier for them to feel solidarity with each other. Are you a factory owner? Make the guys on the shop floor wear coveralls while the guys in the office wear suits, and now you've separated your employees into two distinct camps you can play off against each other. And if you make it so "the professionals" who make the decisions are visually distinct from the common laborers, it cements their position of authority and encourages obedience.
"Professional attire" has always been about control. Nothing more.
Rumo161@feddit.org · 5 pts · 1d
Thank you
edgemaster72@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 1d
Fuck that, I wanna be comfortable, and I can't afford the tailoring for "sophisticated or professional" clothing to look good on me
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 23h
Fuck that, I’m not a trained animal (or any animal of any kind. Definitely 100% human.) and I refuse to live my life performing for others. Outside of the necessary things (work, rent, etc…), don’t do things you don’t like. Nothing is more childish than thinking there are rules for being an adult.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 11h
But human is a animal.
possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 23h
nah that's classist shite.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 11h
Professional clothing in my free time? No thanks.
greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1d