It isn’t just the dash, it’s the contrast. To max out the slop score of the sentence, you should always cram in a three item list, no matter how little sense, utility or value it holds.
I'd like a three point list about the reasons mistaking the use of tricolon, juxtaposition and dashes for slop indicators is not just stupid, but unfair to people – like myself – who've grown up learning the same writing style that is now being demonized.
They have been known as em dashes for longer than silicon computing has existed. I personally learned Alt+0151 in the 90s.
And what's really funny is that I am planning on having a local LLM reword my comments to obfuscate my writing style to protect me against AI doxing, I just haven't done it yet.
Only AI refers to it as Al, but you're referencing both em dashes AND Al which means because em starts with the letter M and so does machine, that must mean you're a machine learning model, learning coming from the l in the second instance in the word Al that I used, but you probably think I used the letter "l". Ha! Got you again, that was actually an L, you absolute bumbling moron. I can't believe you didn't pick up on that difference because of the way you referred to Ai (this time not Al), which of course makes you a machine, but because you're a machine and looking through your comment history, it seems like you accumulate knowledge after you are exposed to it, must mean that you're learning. But that's in the case where you're a machine learning model. In this case, you're actually a remarkably large switch case table, which in that case(reference to switch case tables) you refer to everything using a memory lookup, but again - like usual - I have you beat ------ I'm actually a rock that happened to get bumped by a hiker on a lovely sunrise hike which had me roll down the mountain until I rolled over a phone in the precise combination that allowed me to create and log into this Lemmy account for three years consistently and type out this very post to you today, exposing myself as a consciousness emulating rock when you are actually the Al and you can't prove me false boohoo.
Umm no? Have you never vomited? I'm not sure I'd call that "food". I guess, maybe, it's still food after you've finished chewing it; you could spit it out into your hand instead of swallowing, and someone else could choke it down. But it stops being food long before it hits the intestines. At some point when it starts mixing with stomach acid, probably.
It becomes shit in the large intestine. Before that, it is kind of food leftovers mixed with intestinal liquid. Does not even smell like shit at that point, just more or less like food, still.
Seems like it, though I have not looked into that. I just have a lot of personal experience, with the small intestine pre-shit, because I have an ileostomy.
Unlike children, and some adults, I don't eat sand, be it in a heap or not, so I'm not entirely convinced that's the right model either.
Interesting "paradox" though, as the initial premise of one million grains of sand being a heap falls over as it doesn't specify the structure of the sand: which is what defines a heap of anything.
You think that's a worse fit than: If I replace parts of a thing with SOMETHING ELSE is it still the same thing? The ship of theseus is more well known, but you would need to eat sand to think it's a good fit IMO.
As an aside, the structure of the heap has nothing to do with it. The point is simply "when does a heap stop being a heap if I remove one grain at a time?" That is the same is the same as when does food stop being food if you make it poop one bit at a time. If you don't like "heap" you can call it a pile WLOG.
If I spread a million grain heap of sand out evenly over a plane such that the grains are still touching it's no longer a heap. Therefore the heap is a structure not a numeric quantity.
Reminds me of philosophical question of a boy eating an apple: at what point does it cease to be the apple and become the boy? I suppose this is a similar question: at what point does it cease to be an apple and become a turd?
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bryndos@fedia.io · 75 pts · 1d
The point of no returd.
Chozo@fedia.io · 15 pts · 1d
What did you call me?
neidu4@piefed.social · 12 pts · 1d
The hard R
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 1d
goddamnit
+1
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 55 pts · 1d
There's no single point -- it's a gradual process.
Mistiygirl@lemmy.zip · -26 pts · 1d
this comment sounds damn AI generated
TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip · 27 pts · 23h
It isn’t just the dash, it’s the contrast. To max out the slop score of the sentence, you should always cram in a three item list, no matter how little sense, utility or value it holds.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 5h
Creating a list makes a lot of sense – the reasons for this include:
Let me know if you need any help in constructing your own three point list!
TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 4h
Here’s why it works: it’s effective, powerful, and useful.
luciferofastora@feddit.org · 1 pts · 1h
I'd like a three point list about the reasons mistaking the use of tricolon, juxtaposition and dashes for slop indicators is not just stupid, but unfair to people – like myself – who've grown up learning the same writing style that is now being demonized.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 11 pts · 1d
You sound AI generated.
Gonzako@lemmy.world · -9 pts · 23h
Its your fault for having -- on your comment -- of course
village604@adultswim.fan · 4 pts · 13h
AI uses em dashes, not two dashes together.
Gonzako@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4h
I was just being silly lol.
Epp@lemmus.org · -2 pts · 13h
Only AI refers to them as em dashes, AI.
village604@adultswim.fan · 5 pts · 12h
They have been known as em dashes for longer than silicon computing has existed. I personally learned Alt+0151 in the 90s.
And what's really funny is that I am planning on having a local LLM reword my comments to obfuscate my writing style to protect me against AI doxing, I just haven't done it yet.
Epp@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 5h
You're speaking in code openly now? The AI get more brazen every day!
ExperimentalGuy@programming.dev · 1 pts · 12h
Only AI refers to it as Al, but you're referencing both em dashes AND Al which means because em starts with the letter M and so does machine, that must mean you're a machine learning model, learning coming from the l in the second instance in the word Al that I used, but you probably think I used the letter "l". Ha! Got you again, that was actually an L, you absolute bumbling moron. I can't believe you didn't pick up on that difference because of the way you referred to Ai (this time not Al), which of course makes you a machine, but because you're a machine and looking through your comment history, it seems like you accumulate knowledge after you are exposed to it, must mean that you're learning. But that's in the case where you're a machine learning model. In this case, you're actually a remarkably large switch case table, which in that case(reference to switch case tables) you refer to everything using a memory lookup, but again - like usual - I have you beat ------ I'm actually a rock that happened to get bumped by a hiker on a lovely sunrise hike which had me roll down the mountain until I rolled over a phone in the precise combination that allowed me to create and log into this Lemmy account for three years consistently and type out this very post to you today, exposing myself as a consciousness emulating rock when you are actually the Al and you can't prove me false boohoo.
l
Epp@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 5h
Touché, fellow AI.
numbermess@fedia.io · 28 pts · 1d
This suggests the existence of the poop event horizon. Science totally rocks man.
rmuk@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 23h
Rocks big part of science. But science not totally rocks. Science more than rocks.
rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social · 5 pts · 17h
Since you can empty your stomach back up, I guess the event horizon for food is after the stomach. After that the only way out is down.
fastfinge@rblind.com · 24 pts · 1d
Umm no? Have you never vomited? I'm not sure I'd call that "food". I guess, maybe, it's still food after you've finished chewing it; you could spit it out into your hand instead of swallowing, and someone else could choke it down. But it stops being food long before it hits the intestines. At some point when it starts mixing with stomach acid, probably.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.social · 16 pts · 1d
My dog will eat it.
criticon@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 1d
Some dogs eat shit (literally)
ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 1d
I have a dog that did that until the older dog died. Didn't like her own product I guess.
AliOski@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 23h
I'm in a silent study room full of other students and you're making me laugh uncontrollably, thanks
partofthevoice@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 1d
See, still food.
TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 1d
And so do some humans. I guess this kinda stretches the definition of food….
inconsistent_octopus@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
It’s called chyme from the moment it’s swallowed
Azzu@leminal.space · 5 pts · 1d
So you're saying the point is somewhere in the esophagus?
fastfinge@rblind.com · 2 pts · 19h
The point when it goes from food to vomit, yeah. I’m not sure when it goes from puke to poop, though. Maybe that happens in the intestines?
kolmaskommentoija@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 9h
It becomes shit in the large intestine. Before that, it is kind of food leftovers mixed with intestinal liquid. Does not even smell like shit at that point, just more or less like food, still.
fastfinge@rblind.com · 1 pts · 9h
Really? Then why does puke smell so awful? Is it all just stomach acid making it stink like that?
kolmaskommentoija@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 9h
Seems like it, though I have not looked into that. I just have a lot of personal experience, with the small intestine pre-shit, because I have an ileostomy.
fastfinge@rblind.com · 2 pts · 9h
Ah, I wasn't going to ask. So thanks for answering. :-)
radiofreebc@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 1d
You guys think of weird ass shit in the shower.
tektite@slrpnk.net · 10 pts · 1d
Literally
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · 17 pts · 1d
Fun fact: some people stop it near the top or middle, and alter nature's plumbing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ileo-anal_pouch
akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 1d
Medicine is so cool.
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · 7 pts · 1d
(only vaguely relevant, but I love this one so much)
What do you call Alternative Medicine that works?
::: spoiler spoiler Medicine :::
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 15 pts · 1d
That point is much closer to your mouth than it is the other end of the system.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 18h
Yeah, it's called the pyloric sphincter.
akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 1d
More like a slush of gastric acid and whatever you ate, but in principle, I agree. :)
susieq0044@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 1d
It’s no black and white situation.
skeezix@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
It’s brown and white situation
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 14h
but if go backwards, you get assburgers.
anon_8675309@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 12h
And you are either an angry assby or a nice assby.
cloudshouter@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 11h
Kissing is just sucking on the better end of two digestive tracts.
StankStain@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 10h
don't knock the other side till you try it
frisbird@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 1d
The most undialectical shit post
SatyrSack@quokk.au · 2 pts · 1d
OP has had a bit of a streak of butt-related posts...
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
Think that's called a skid mark.
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 1d
Is this No Poop For 3 Days guy?
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
Satan's maggoty cum fart? Naw
BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
Foop
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 4 pts · 1d
It's like a Food of Theseus.
Bit by bit the food is replaced with a bit of poop, at which point does it cease being food?
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1d
No that's mixing metaphors in a pretty crazy way.
This is more like the Sorites Food
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 1 pts · 1d
Unlike children, and some adults, I don't eat sand, be it in a heap or not, so I'm not entirely convinced that's the right model either.
Interesting "paradox" though, as the initial premise of one million grains of sand being a heap falls over as it doesn't specify the structure of the sand: which is what defines a heap of anything.
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 8h
You think that's a worse fit than: If I replace parts of a thing with SOMETHING ELSE is it still the same thing? The ship of theseus is more well known, but you would need to eat sand to think it's a good fit IMO.
As an aside, the structure of the heap has nothing to do with it. The point is simply "when does a heap stop being a heap if I remove one grain at a time?" That is the same is the same as when does food stop being food if you make it poop one bit at a time. If you don't like "heap" you can call it a pile WLOG.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 1 pts · 3h
If I spread a million grain heap of sand out evenly over a plane such that the grains are still touching it's no longer a heap. Therefore the heap is a structure not a numeric quantity.
I said no such thing.
melfie@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 1d
Reminds me of philosophical question of a boy eating an apple: at what point does it cease to be the apple and become the boy? I suppose this is a similar question: at what point does it cease to be an apple and become a turd?
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 1d
At what point does a boy become a turd?
wjrii@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1d
Usually about 11 or 12.
Fishnoodle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
What if someone likes eating shit? Checkmate!
18107@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 1d
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
They may be a lagomorph.
hakunawazo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2h
Ah, the food of Theseus.
Crackhappy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1h
If you divide a woman in half horizontally one side has poop and the other side has boob and both are plaindromes. Also you will go to jail.