I bought some cheap Chinese 2-way radios. The packaging has a big American flag and a "Designed in U.S.A." claim, which I suspect is bullshit given the company involved. Also, there are two Bible verses referenced. This smacks of pandering to a particular slice of conservative Americans. All I want is cheap radios for skiing with my kids next winter, not a reminder of my country's socio-political bullshit.
Product packaging pandering to conservative Americans
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60d@lemmy.ca · 141 pts · 349d
We're seeing this in Canada now too. Murcan products with a big maple leaf on them. Some stores are also slapping maple leafs on obviously Murcan products. We're calling it Maple-washing.
I wonder what Murcans should call this OP example. Star-washing?
Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca · 90 pts · 349d
I vote for "orange-staining"
baines@lemmy.cafe · 19 pts · 349d
burger-washing
TehWorld@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 349d
Hamburding
Archer@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 349d
Burger-laundering
entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org · 8 pts · 349d
Hamburgling?
rowinxavier@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 349d
Spangle banging
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 349d
On the first date?
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 349d
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming, indeed.
tburkhol@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 349d
I'm used to 'Packaged in the USA' labeling on Made in [somewhere else] products. 'Designed'...same-same, definitely since NAFTA, maybe before. The bible verses are new to me.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 349d
I looked it up:
So you have to believe that he existed, but not follow his teachings cuz they're too woke. Got it.
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 349d
Genesis 19:31
Ezekiel 23:20
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 349d
D:
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 348d
Judges 1:19
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 7 pts · 349d
Didn't even see that. And it's coded so you actually have to pick up your cipher book! Or maybe it's a dogwhistle and every christofascist worth their salt knows what it stands for.
grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org · 12 pts · 349d
The second. John 3:16 is a very popular verse in the Baptist crowd I grew up around in the 90s. I don't think it's any more a fascist dog whistle than a Jesus fish. YMMV on how christofascist that is.
Like, I never went to church and it's ingrained in my brain from my classmates and reading bumper stickers.
PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 349d
It is nearly always in the large crowds somewhere at sportball events.
QualifiedKitten@discuss.online · 5 pts · 349d
It's also printed on In-N-Out drink cups & Forever 21 plastic bags.
defuse959@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 349d
I believe the exact verse is:
“And that’s the bottom line because Stone Cold said so.”
KumaSudosa@feddit.dk · 3 pts · 349d
What a difference in where one grows up. I have never once heard about John 3:16 and I had no idea what it is. You learn something new every day, I guess
shalafi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 349d
John 3:16 is an all-time well known verse. Only one I could say without looking it up.
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 349d
Ezekiel 23:20
Got me through some hard times.
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 349d
This is one of my personal favorites as well.
My friend likes to use Hebrews 16:4… Because Hebrews only has 13 chapters. She uses it as a sort of litmus test to see if people actually know what they’re talking about. Apparently everyone she mentions it to just starts talking about how it’s such a beautiful verse, and they like it too. She said I’m the only person who has ever called her out on the fact that her “favorite” verse doesn’t exist…
I’m an agnostic atheist, and she leads her bible study group. She always jokes that I studied my bible better than anyone in her study group.
JordanZ@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 349d
60d@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 349d
Right! So maybe "John-washing" cuz it's all about the book of John.
skisnow@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 349d
yeah, the only one of the Beatitudes in Matthew they seem to like is the one where they get to adopt a persecution complex. The stuff about being meek and merciful is damned un-American.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 349d
Ah, right down the Old Glory hole.
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 348d
We need a distinctive and protected "Made in Canada" symbol.
Doubleohdonut@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 349d
"Freedom"
/jkSaik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com · 86 pts · 349d
You bought it from the US distributor.
https://sosenterprise.sd.gov/BusinessServices/Business/FilingDetail.aspx?CN=198011242117207117138223098088044218180167017157
They buy the Chinese product and package it in their own package.
kersploosh@sh.itjust.works · 28 pts · 349d
That's really interesting! I had no idea, but I am not surprised.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 349d
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social · 18 pts · 349d
That... Makes way too much sense actually.
Man you guys remember when that one straight got blocked.
Or when covid 19 hit.
Archer@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 349d
She was so dummy thick she rerouted international trade for weeks
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 349d
And that's not ever a given.
11111one11111@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 349d
Am I missing something? What does your link provide that supports your claim?
Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com · -1 pts · 349d
I can't help you if you can't read "B-Tech Distribution, Inc.".
11111one11111@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 349d
The screen shot is what I see from the link provided. Where do you see B-tech distribution? Or what am I doing wrong to not see where you are getting that from?
Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com · 17 pts · 349d
Seems you don't see the captcha... try printing the page using the button and closing the print prompt. should see a captcha show up.
Edit: Here's the content for you. Seems that loading the page directly somehow breaks the captcha... No idea why.
Edit2: and the full page with the URL in the bar so you see that the link is accurate... Just broke-dick site it seems.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world · 63 pts · 349d
Pretty sure coating the whole thing with black ink to make it look 'manly' makes recycling more difficult to.
seathru@lemmy.sdf.org · 57 pts · 349d
cries in goth girl
spankmonkey@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 349d
More options for you!
AtariDump@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 348d
How do I get to cry in a goth girl?
scarabic@lemmy.world · 62 pts · 348d
Christianity loves to pretend it’s still a downtrodden little secret society, with their sneaky Bible verses in tiny print and their fish symbols and such. It’s hilarious fantasy play, because they are a global hegemony and spend a lot of time persecuting others.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 33 pts · 348d
They have a persecution fetish. They want so bad to be oppressed. Or at least think they do...
wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 348d
Well, that's because they literally turned religious persecution into a religious fetish (as in, the anthropological term "fetish", definition 1).
It's ingrained in Christianity so deeply that the official doctrine of the catholic church is that only those that die from religious persecution can intercede with God.
aceshigh@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 348d
That’s the only way they know they’re being good Christian’s. If they aren’t being persecuted then they’re doing something wrong.
Valmond@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 348d
They think they are too.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 348d
They see anything other than absolute cultural dominance in all parts of the world to be persecution. I remember being told in catholic school as a kid how America wasn't being very tolerant of Christianity because people would do fun things on Sunday mornings.
Like practice your religion as you want and I'll do the same with mine, but part of religion is that it's yours.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 348d
Oh man, I haven't seen a fish symbol in a decade.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 347d
You know, you're right.
PolydoreSmith@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 348d
Trump’s latest rambling about hoping he goes to heaven ends with his assertion that we need more religion in the US. The whole thing is hilarious but that last part especially so.
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br · 34 pts · 348d
https://newsfeed.time.com/2013/03/28/study-packages-sealed-with-atheist-tape-10-times-more-likely-to-disappear/
Study: Packages Sealed with ‘Atheist’ Tape 10 Times More Likely to Disappear
CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net · 9 pts · 348d
Fascinating case study. I hadn't heard of this before.
kersploosh@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 348d
That is an amazing little ad hoc study!
a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 348d
The word that pops up in my mind when i read this is "sabotage"
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 348d
"Hence the word... sabotage."
thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 347d
Honestly, should send them with AirTags or similar hidden inside and track their progress - would easily get to the bottom of who the culprits are.
Just have the recipients of the shoes return successfully delivered tags in a replay paid envelope for a refund/credit.
Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 347d
"What’s up with the USPS? Who knows"
Oh, they know.
cypherpunks@lemmy.ml · 34 pts · 349d
This bullshit is not from the well-known Chinese radio maker Baofeng (baofengradio.com) but rather from a US company called "BTech" which has the deceptive URL BaoFengTech.com.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 348d
Lol so we've finally hit the point of an American company trying to knock off a respected Chinese brand.
alt_xa_23@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 348d
TIL there are knockoff Baofengs out there
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 347d
I've had a UV-5R for over a decade now, and I'm just now learning of this. Mine didn't come with any of the mossy oak black rifle coffee tactical sister fuck nonsense though.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 33 pts · 349d
Almost just assumed it was meant to be a Thin Blue Line flag because of the colors.
kersploosh@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 349d
Yeah. I have seen the monochromatic flag referred to as a "no quarter" flag, and initially wondered if that was the intent. Or maybe they just wanted to minimize colors to reduce printing costs.
skulblaka@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 349d
Intent or not, that's what it is, the black flag or no quarter flag is one that states I will kill you dead even if you surrender.
Chuds think this means they're tough manly men, what it really means is a declaration that they cannot be trusted with anything for any reason. It's broadcasting to the world that you don't intend to abide by any rules of engagement so it's best to just blow you off the map pre-emptively. Flying this flag, even if you don't even engage with an enemy, is itself a war crime according to the Hague conventions.
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 348d
Most often seen on an Under Armor t-shirt with the word FREEDOM next to it.
darkdemize@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 349d
If they wanted to minimize color/printing costs, they wouldn't color the whole box black.
seathru@lemmy.sdf.org · 21 pts · 349d
Did you get a knockoff? www.baofengradio.com is the legit url that I've bought baofeng radios from, and I just checked the boxes; no flags or bible verses.
kersploosh@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 349d
Another commented mentioned this is from a US distributor that repackages Baofeng products.
But to be honest, there are so many Baofeng/BTech radios for sale on the internet I was never confident about which were legit and which were knock-offs. I just went for it and hoped for the best. They seem to work fine, at least so far.
voicesarefree@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 349d
Huh.. I bought from https://baofengtech.com/ not that long ago and didn’t have pandering boxes.. they are located in South Dakota so I guess I can’t say I am super surprised, just disappointed.
tal@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 349d
Could be that the packaging was redesigned recently.
CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe · 20 pts · 348d
bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 348d
I don't think there's any legal basis for having "designed in" be truthful, where as "made in" is a requirement for the marking of country of origin for imports.
Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social · 18 pts · 349d
LMAO, this immediately made me think of a George Carlin bit, "That’s the reality; angry men in combat fatigues talking to God on a two-way radio and muttering incoherent slogans about freedom are eventually going to provide us with a great deal of entertainment, especially after your stupid fcking economy collapses all around you and the terrorists come out of the woodwork and you’ll have anthrax in your water supply, and saran gas in your air conditioner, there’ll be chemical and biological suitcase bombs in every city and I say enjoy it, relax, enjoy the show, take a fcking chance, put a little fun in your life.”
shiftymccool@programming.dev · 10 pts · 349d
For fuck's sake, just fucking say fuck! FUCK!
altphoto@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 348d
FUCK!
I just woke up and that's how I feel at this moment. It'll fade.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 347d
Ooh I haven't seen this one yet. Tbf I've only ever watched YouTube videos of his bits, might be time to grab entire specials.
AeonFelis@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 348d
jwt@programming.dev · 10 pts · 348d
Wolf314159@startrek.website · 1 pts · 346d
Conservatives really like the recycling myth because it puts the onus of waste on the individual consumer instead of the corporations actually producing the waste.
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus · 16 pts · 349d
whaleross@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 349d
Chinese OEM resellers will print anything on the product and the packaging. It's just another sale for them. Same guy probably sells it with ten different brandings and flags and quotes and slogans for different markets.
SpeedRunner@europe.pub · 15 pts · 348d
Don't all iPhones have the same sentence on them?
kersploosh@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 348d
iPhones are actually designed in the US. My point is that the phrase is almost certainly a lie in this case.
Psythik@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 348d
The point they're making us that every iPhone says "Designed in California, Made in China" on it, just like this product. "Designed in the US" means nothing if the vast majority of the actual production work is done in China.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 348d
No, they specify California. They ain't getting some cheapo des Moines engineers
Raiderkev@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 348d
Hell, I think the OG iPods w the clickwheel did too
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 348d
Can be truth or lie depending on the company.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 348d
Bao Feng has been cashing in on the prepper/meal team 6 crowd for years now. Their packaging just caught up.
radix@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 349d
As if conservative Americans have read the bible. They'd be the ones crucifying Jesus for being too "woke" if they knew what it was all about.
LuaPurpa@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 348d
"John 3:16"
kersploosh@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 348d
That's Austin 3:16
LuaPurpa@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 348d
Hell yeah!
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 349d
Should've used "Make in PRC", conservatives would be too dumb to know what that means 🤣
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 348d
Nah its that foreign country Puerto Rico that we keep getting immigrants from. Almost as bad as the guamanians stealing jobs from our hardworking soldiers /s
CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe · 0 pts · 348d
Mwa@thelemmy.club · 11 pts · 348d
why bible verse on a box, its very out of place why not somewhere else.
CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe · 8 pts · 348d
Monument@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 pts · 348d
You’re right, but I googled the wrong thing and googled John 4:16, which is “Jesus said ‘Go call your husband […]’” (It says more, but search cut it off there.)
I had a solid guffaw because these boxes are for 2-way radios. Then I realized that I googled the wrong thing and lost interest in continued research.
Damage@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 348d
John 4,16 is actually : "And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them. "
But on the box the reference is actually 3,16:
"This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers and sisters. "
And John 14,6:
"Jesus answered, I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 348d
This is actually 1 John 3:16 (from the letters of John). John 3:16 (from the gospel according to) is actually:
(Arguably the most famous new testament quote besides "Jesus wept".)
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 348d
If I was a troll, I'd start putting the weird ones on like Jeremiah 10:1-4 or Deuteronomy 22:9.
Eiri@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 349d
You could also see it as a form of greenwashing, making you think you're buying local, and thus greener, if you don't look closely.
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org · 9 pts · 347d
Cardboard, great, versatile, recyclable.
Americans: dye it all black and produce it in china. Put som child diddler quotes on it and our stupid flag. Now it's perfect
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 348d
They know how pandering to political powers works.
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 349d
I love when this happens so I know who to stop giving business.
RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 349d
I'm sure Baofengtech makes a version for liberals too, probably in a brown box marked as recyclable.
RhondaSandTits@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 pts · 349d
I've bought 15 Baofeng uv5r radios over the years... Every single one has been packed in a plain looking brown box marked recyclable
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 349d
I think Baofeng might be one of the good ones.
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 345d
Upvote for decent smartassery.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 349d
Lol you're gonna run out of companies to buy from and have to live in the woods like a hermit. Every company does this, not matter how big or small.
Like... farmers are mostly conservstive and likely voted for a fascist, are you gonna stop buying food grown by farmers and grow your own?
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 348d
The last time I made that decision it was over a dietary supplement. There is quite a bit of competition there. I guess if you are the one with a hot comodity you can shove Jesus and Hitler down everyone's throat all you want.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 349d
Weird, because baofeng is such an American name. Definitely designed in USA.
Ah wait. They mention package designed in USA. Yes that is totally believable. And then a unique color theme for the American version.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 348d
Ok but we are a nation of immigrants. I could see a company in America having that name. I'd just assume the founder was either a Chinese immigrant or the child of one.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 348d
For something electronic it's extremely unlikely. In this case I'd be surprised if they have more than 5 American employees, the support number for the official us branch is a payphone in Houston? (Location makes sense because the box is definitely designed in Texas)
ndixon@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 348d
If it's any consolation, just think how much joy and laughter it's created in Guangdong or wherever.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org · 7 pts · 348d
Made in china, you dipshit flag-waving cucks.
ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 349d
The elites don’t want you to know this but the flags of the USA are free you can put them on your packaging I have 458 flags.
Zachariah@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 349d
Hey, it’s hard to read a whole nine words. Probably fools a lot of them.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 349d
Something not to order as a European.
kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 349d
not American. Explain why black and white strips are politically charged ?
The bible verses are so dumb lol
kersploosh@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 348d
Black and gray flags are used by the US military on some uniforms. Civilians also sometimes display them as "no quarter" flags, meaning the person displaying the flag will show no mercy to any perceived enemies. For both of these reasons the right-wing nationalist crowd likes them.
daggermoon@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 349d
It doesn't really mean anything, but conservatives parade it around alot. I wouldn't be caught dead wearing a black and white American flag. Maybe someone else is more knoweledgable.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · -3 pts · 348d
Well that's a new one, thanks for the pain.
daggermoon@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 348d
My spellcheck is broken, please bare with me.
CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe · -1 pts · 348d
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 348d
Yeah it's a bad rhetorical position to have backed ourselves into, but also yeah we're certainly there. I think the 00s really did it with the flag waving support our troops leading to defense of torture and dismissal of war crimes. By that point it was hard to be proud to be an American and rather than join a national conversation about what we'd done, the right saw us recoil in horror and advanced. They screamed "love it or leave it" and asserted that America was the best. By the time the disaster of the war on terror really hit them they owned the cultural perception of "patriotism" and "America fuck yeah". They then descended into conspiracy to explain it, the most recent contrapoints video was quite compelling on that discussion.
The left has been doing some work to reclaim it. Shermanposting is very much an example, but reclaiming national pride is hard in the face of a nationalist movement. Our history is such a mix of good and bad and when you're committed to reality it's hard to reclaim the flag waving position, especially when it's gotten so bad your national value of liberty has become a fascist buzzword and the country has ruined most of its goodwill internationally.
littlewonder@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 349d
I can't believe this wasn't a satire project by some artist.
quoll@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 348d
christian woke... choke... coke?
Jerb322@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 348d
I think it's funny that they put the verse on there, like I know what the fuck it says. I'm not looking it up.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 348d
Oh that is just QA engineer John, he stamped it at 3:16.
GoddessGundy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 345d
This might be weird but at 3-4 in the morning when I get off work and can't sleep because I gotta take the kids to school in a couple hours, I day dream about some super power I acquire that allows me, in some form or another, to end the corruption, stop the wars, force every politician into a wage slave job.
Sometimes it's teleportation and I scare the shit out of them enough to change their ways and fuck over their bank accounts everywhere. Sometimes it's mind control. Sometimes it's Jebus-like prophet bullshit.
Ultimately, I just want them to take all the money there is out there from us or in their coffers, and create the utopia we could have, or get close to, if the leaders or the world and those that pay them, didn't fuck it up for all us little peons.
Then I wake up, rush around to put my house in some semblance of order before I go to work again, smile and laugh, whether I want to or not, for the legit people who struggle just as much as I do and tip me way too fucking much because they know it'll put food in my kids' bellies.
Most of them love Trump which hurts every fiber of my being. They're still good people. They care, and they're generous and kind. They will go out of their way for anyone, and I'm not exaggerating when I say this. It's harder to handle them when there's a dem in office because they never stfu about it and it riles me up having to listen to them but aside from the Punch and Judy indoctrination we've all succumbed to we'd agree on absolutely everything as long as you don't use certain hot button phrases when you talk about it.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 348d
Don't all americans love their precious rag?
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 5 pts · 348d
It's the bible verses on the side OP was focusing on.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 348d
That came after "also", so certainly not what he was focussing on.
Also (see what I did) most americans love the magic man in the sky.
Linktank@lemmy.today · -27 pts · 349d
Did you put half as much effort into making a complaint to the company as you did in making this post?
Without doing that, there is no point in making the complaint.
SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world · 12 pts · 349d
If you really think complaining about this is going to make someone doing this sort of thing stop doing so, you definitely do not understand the American right wing these days.
saltesc@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 349d
And so letting others know vs. the company is more proactive.
SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world · 5 pts · 349d
Yep - the bottom line is what will get them in the end.
Linktank@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 349d
What do you mean? They accomplish almost everything they do through complaint campaigns. Nobody complains more than the right wing, and they are getting their way because of it. What am I missing? Please enlighten me.
SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world · 3 pts · 349d
If someone complains about such things in today's political environment, odds are much higher that they are automatically dismissed as "anti-American libtards" and laughed at - all the while the company behind it will be patting themselves on the back for "owning the libs."
Linktank@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 349d
hitmyspot@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 349d
Unless other people find it interesting, or they want to vent, not complain.