Too many people pearl clutching today over worries of retributive violence, as if the fascists aren't already going to be committing that violence on us in the near future regardless. It's not too early to say that this scumbag deserved much worse and I'm glad he got rocked so publicly. Mods I'll understand if you delete this and I'm truly sorry for the trouble if you do, I just need a personal break today from the media cacophony of liberals collectively reconciling with the realization that we live in an abnormally and horrifically violent society.
Let me have a little schadenfreude, as a treat
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shalafi@lemmy.world · 170 pts · 347d
Imagine leading a life where millions are giddy over your death.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 60 pts · 347d
I literally cannot recognize Charlie Kirk without his tiny face shrunken slightly further down.
cdf12345@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 347d
That’s because it’s Crowder in the meme
IncogCyberspaceUser@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 347d
If anything, someone enlarged his tiny face in this image.
Seleni@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 347d
Some bring joy wherever they go… others, whenever they go
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 347d
saimen@feddit.org · 5 pts · 346d
Russian Soldiers wrote this on the wall inside the German Reichstag in 1945. Best use of it (so far).
notpornactor@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 346d
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 346d
No it's Crowder but Kirk was on a "Prove Me Wrong" tour which amounts to the same thing
jokersteve@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 347d
Like when Henry Kissinger died and every second city in South America had celebratory parties?
taiyang@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 347d
And he was only 31, imagine how many more would be giddy if he lived as long as Trump.
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com · 7 pts · 346d
The craziest thing about that is that being a halfway decent human is the default position. You have to actively try to be a peice of shit at the scale he was
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org · 5 pts · 347d
I wonder if people like Ben Shapiro and the likes see this and go: hmmmm
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 8 pts · 347d
I see earlier that Ben cancelled an appearance.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 346d
I approve of this. In fact, they should just bunker up and remove themselves from the public eye entirely.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 346d
Unfortunately they'd still have access to the internet to spew their nonsense.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 346d
Well, obviously they'd have to cut themselves off from all communication so no one can track them down. Can never be too safe.
mgnome@piefed.social · 129 pts · 347d
balderdash9@lemmy.zip · 78 pts · 347d
The Republicans are only going to talk about violence against them. They have a victim mentality and Charlie boy is now a martyr.
fodor@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 347d
Rothe@piefed.social · 15 pts · 347d
He is now their Horst Wessel.
13igTyme@piefed.social · 15 pts · 347d
I hope they all end up being martyrs.
doingthestuff@lemy.lol · -19 pts · 347d
His voice just got louder.
BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip · 33 pts · 347d
No louder is that other conservative talking head
doingthestuff@lemy.lol · -33 pts · 347d
Crowder isn't really very popular. Charlie Kirk is going to be the white MLK
Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 347d
I'm white and I can assure you that POS may he rot is not.
deacon@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 347d
Hang on, are you accusing the FBI of killing Charlie Kirk, too?
Corn@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 347d
Not intentionally, the shooter was just supposed to clip his ear.
Unfortunately, the guy who missed JFK's ear was on duty that day.
doingthestuff@lemy.lol · -7 pts · 347d
Am I not not accusing them?
Madison420@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 347d
How is it at all like MLK?
michaelmrose@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 347d
Not really. His death put a cap on his ability to say new things or respond to current happenings and cultural events. He was neither timeless nor profound and 5 years from now this is the only thing most people will remember vs him yapping in their feeds about current events this diminished him.
ArgentRaven@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 346d
That's exactly what happened to Rush Limbaugh. He's no longer relevant to the current conversation and while not forgotten, he can't spread his continued message anymore.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 347d
His voice couldn't become louder than it already was. A mouth that big can't get any bigger.
Also, he's dead.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 347d
Kirk promoted gun violence to justify the 2nd amendment. It would be poetic justice if the killer was someone whose loved one died from gun violence and chose to give him a taste of his own opinion.
Railing5132@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 346d
Trump ordered flags to half staff. For a fucking shitposter. 2 congresspeople in MN get gunned down and nothing.
Cedar@lemmy.ml · 73 pts · 347d
Someone said “he died as he lived: talkin’ out the side of his neck.”
Perfection.
Lazylazycat@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 347d
Ffs 😂 👌
Ookami38@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 347d
He had a lot to say.
He had a lot of nothing to say, we'll miss him.
ArgentRaven@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 346d
At least one person didn't miss him.
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 346d
unexpected tool
Ookami38@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 346d
Between eulogy and vicarious, they've absolutely got some fitting songs for the time.
NatakuNox@lemmy.world · 70 pts · 347d
Bruh... We are in for an explosion of political violence... Only difference between now and the past is white wealthy men are the targets. Watching them freak out when they are gunned down on a random Wednesday is laughable. Welcome to your average black Americans reality. Police killings are political violence but no one with actual power ever gave a shit.
wheezy@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 346d
And your average kid in elementary school. Our society has successfully normalized violence literally against children. I feel like we're not far away from "pedophiles really aren't that bad actually" being said by our politicians.
And they want me to care about a fucking piece of shit like Charlie Kirk turning into a fountain of blood while no one else was hurt? Literally top 10 clean kills in history.
The only sympathy I feel is for people that had to feel the trauma of that event. No one there knew they were not also targets. The panic and fear they must have felt in that moment. That is my only sympathy for this situation.
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 346d
Yeaaaah, when he was asked how many transgender shooters were in the us in the last 10 years, he answered too many and the crowded roared in applause. I give no fucks about their trauma.
mikesizachrist@lemmy.world · 70 pts · 347d
i switched over from reddit recently and this post makes me here to stay. Got a loud laugh out of me after reading all the undeserved sympathy this guy was getting.
I've been wondering for awhile now - at what point do ppl just start killing these fucking ppl. I guess that's today. Hopefully this a lesson/reminder in why you don't treat your fellow man like fucking dogshit, cause they just might tear your fucking throat out!
CptEnder@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 347d
Yuh got permabanned from Reddit for telling alt right dude they only bitch when one of their own FO in the FAFO and that Nazis deserve sunflower seeds. Lmao that site is a joke.
atomicorange@lemmy.world · 65 pts · 347d
I feel for all the people who will have to live with the fear and trauma of witnessing this. I’m glad nobody else was hurt. This type of violence is a consequence of our gun-obsessed and highly politically polarized culture, which Kirk had a massive hand in making worse. I hope we can focus on the damage his rhetoric has caused and those who were taken in by him can use this as a learning moment.
Seleni@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 347d
Yeah, what is up with our gun-obsessed culture anyhow? Switzerland for example has about as many guns per person as we do, but they’re not nutso gun worshippers like we are. What gives?
Runaway@lemmy.zip · 22 pts · 347d
Switzerland requires training courses and other regulations we don't have have afaik, though not an expert, which likely helps a lot.
America as a non homogenous society, and always has been rife with divisions as well. These divisions easily, even subconsciously stoke fear into people, prompting a bigger draw towards self defense.
Early pioneer spirit also drilled it into the American consciousness. Needed a gun to defend your farm/animals from predators or other people when law enforcement didn't exist or was hours away back in the day. Also leads to guns being in the family, needing back ups, a gun for every able bodied person etc ...
So a big culture of self defense being the only viable defense for much of American history, consistent concerns about the "others" (for a large chunk of time also includes slave revolts), and relatively lax requirements (stemming from the other reasons mentioned) and boom. Crazy gun obsessed culture.
shalafi@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 347d
Self defense often means a gun for me. I live on the edge of town, not sure how fast cops could get here. I'm in the woods and on the waters all the time, sometimes almost everyday. These aren't nature parks. The places I go are wild.
If I get out south of my camp in the swamp, there are zero humans our there with no way for them to get in. I'm pretty determined but much if it is impassable even for me. Animals don't have the same problems. Last trip I stumbled on water moccasins on three occasions. Not gonna shot one, but if I fuck up and get to close to get away, shotgun it is.
Went down a creek one time and when I returned the next day a teen girl came running up, almost crying, "We saw you leave and you never came back and we were just talking about who to call!" Because no one, ever, goes on that water. Saw a hulking male mountain lion though!
Honytawk@feddit.nl · 6 pts · 347d
I feel for you living in a uncivilized country where you need a weapon in order to feel safe.
psud@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 344d
Funny that Australia has the reputation for dangerous animals. Our snakes don't attack humans (the only people who get bit are snake handlers) our largest predator outside the tropics is a dog. We do have crocodiles up north but you're not allowed to shoot them in self defence
shalafi@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 347d
I've always said America doesn't have a gun problem. We have a culture problem. I could go on and on, but as a gun owner concerned with the law, you can't believe the stupid shit I've seen posted online.
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 347d
It has both. Canada also has firearms and it's not nearly as batshit
merc@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 347d
The US has roughly 1.2 guns per person. Switzerland has 0.27. Canada is a better comparison with 0.34. No country in the world is really in the same league as the US. The US is more than double the next country: Yemen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country
While other countries do sometimes have a few guns, they all have much stronger gun laws. In Switzerland a gun is never something you can use for self-defence or home defence. It has to be safely stored at all times except when you're going out hunting or going to a shooting range. If your weapon is lost or stolen you have to report it to the police immediately. If you are going hunting or going to a shooting range, your gun has to be unloaded.
In Canada it's relatively easy to get a hunting rifle, but pistols are more or less illegal. If you're a sport shooter you can get one, but if you're driving to go shooting it has to be locked in a box in the trunk of your car.
The US one of the only countries where it's acceptable to use a gun for self-defence. It's one of the only countries where people think they have a right to guns. Almost every other country considers it a privilege that can be taken away if someone doesn't actively demonstrate that they're handling these dangerous things safely. In almost every other country it's illegal to have a loaded gun on you when you're not at a gun range, with a few exceptions made for police, bodyguards, etc.
The US also has extremely violent media compared to the rest of the world. In the US there are ratings to try to protect kids from seeing sexual content, but violence is mostly OK. In most of the rest of the world it's violence that's not OK but sex is no big deal.
Honytawk@feddit.nl · 7 pts · 347d
Swiss only have guns because it is the gun from their military training, which currently is mandatory.
They may have guns, but they do not have ammo.
multifariace@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 347d
I strongly worry about the short term for everyone. Listening to the fear and anger of both the people around me in rage and the people celebrating violence online, this feels like the first domino falling. Tensions will be high for awhile. Please learn to love your neighbors no matter how ignorant or disgusting their beliefs and convictions may be.
ricecake@sh.itjust.works · 32 pts · 347d
What about when their beliefs are "people you care about should die?"
It's a reciprocal relationship. I can tolerate them if they can tolerate me. If they base their beliefs on failing to tolerate me.... I won't extend the courtesy either.
Runaway@lemmy.zip · 27 pts · 347d
Idk. Lot of people hoped Luigi would spark a trend and that never materialized. Don't fret too much
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 347d
That was less than a year ago. In terms of history and revolutions, that's not a long time.
It's easy to read history and think everything happened seemlessly - events clearly triggered subsequent events, in an easy-to-follow pattern on a timeline. In reality, months on a timeline actually take months to happen. We are living in days that will be written in history books someday. The people who read about this time will have a hindsight into our era that we can't possibly possess.
Which is why I don't understand how we can be in the comment thread of a high-profile, wealthy conservative being shot, and there are still people saying that Luigi (or whoever shot that CEO) didn't "spark a trend." Just because we're too close to see it doesn't mean a trend isn't actively emerging right now.
Runaway@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 347d
Fair enough. I think lots of people talk about it like they were expecting that it's suddenly open season on em all, but yeah true. This could be a trend. Well have to see.
OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 347d
I mean, there was the blackrock ceo too.
mycodesucks@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 347d
Loving people like this doesn't make them question themselves - it makes them think their abhorrent views aren't so bad or that your convictions aren't really that strong.
And doing so does not stop the violence - there are already people dying in prison camps and being arrested and beaten for protests. The violence is already happening and keeping silent about it is just pretending it isn't and trying to keep it isolated to a group of sacrificial others rather than seeing it effect everyone.
Is the situation lamentable? Yes. But this escalation didn't happen in a vacuum.
Treetrimmer@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 347d
I ain't gonna love bigots
peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 347d
Nah, tried that. It Doesn't Fucking Work.
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network · 10 pts · 347d
Horrible Trauma is one of the few things that changes people's minds. It's generally in-group pressure, and trauma. Maybe some charlie supporter saw him get a well deserved death will have nightmares for a while, and then stop supporting horrible causes.
Furbag@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 347d
The only thing I'm afraid of is the reprisal that Trump will extract from us.
OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 347d
Whatever he does in vengeance he was going to do anyway.
Katana314@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 347d
I guess it occurs to me that the shooter was lucky to target so accurately.
Emotionally driven rogue shooters often aren’t going to have steady aim. We’ve even seen from many similar incidents, it can happen that multiple unrelated people to the object of their hate can get hurt. It’s often how gang violence spreads - the gangs only care about their opponents, but stray bullets still hit innocent people, dragging the mess forward.
If they’d hit anyone else, which is purely a matter of luck and lack of discovery, not shooting skill, I imagine this wouldn’t be so clear cut an issue. For that reason, I’d rather we not generate imitators, especially not in crowded events like these.
expatriado@lemmy.world · 59 pts · 347d
dude had a big face or small face depending on how you define face, i see why the shooter didn't want to overcomplicate and went for the neck
mgnome@piefed.social · 65 pts · 347d
Nougat@fedia.io · 27 pts · 347d
If they were shooting at the face, they would have misjudged the distance.
shalafi@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 347d
He was likely aiming for the face and didn't calculate for the bullet drop. Good. Enough.
Zetta@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 347d
Bro, somebody who did a shot this good has to be experienced with weapons. They fucking took into account bullet drop. Maybe they didn't take enough into account, but they had to have taken into account
Honestly, super curious about who the person is if they ever do end up catching a real suspect.
cm0002@piefed.world · 56 pts · 347d
Not gushing anymore https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c206zm81z4gt?post=asset%3A7e2f698a-fcc0-41b0-84ac-b7e01c1d6d56#post
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 99 pts · 347d
Unbelievable.
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net · 107 pts · 347d
Specifically, he was in the middle of spinning a question about mass shootings into a dog whistle about "gang violence".
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 66 pts · 347d
mass shootings committed by trans people, specifically
Glide@lemmy.ca · 98 pts · 347d
The order of events as I've been seeing online:
His last act on earth was cracking a joke about how only queers and poors are involved in gun violence, at which point he was shot.
icylobster@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 347d
Thanks for extra context. These people really don't seem to care about others suffering. Also I don't normally hear gang violence and mass shooters together. Gang violence is generally targeted and not focused on the most amount of bodies.
Regardless I'm getting tired of this all, and it's likely only beginning.
Schmoo@slrpnk.net · 23 pts · 347d
It's a regularly used debate tactic of the right. He was going to imply that whatever number the student came up with for mass shootings was inflated because the criteria was too vague and erroneously counts gang violence. He would then have used this to simultaneously downplay the seriousness of mass shootings and suggest that trans people represent a larger proportion of mass shooters than they actually do. It was his way of discrediting the argument that the student was making; that trans people are actually underrepresented in the population of mass shooters. The reason for the student making this argument - if you don't know - is that Charlie Kirk has blamed trans people for mass shootings in the past, jumping on the conservative bandwagon that always transvestigates mass shooters because they believe they are a trans conspiracy.
tpyo@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 347d
Thank you because I know a bit, but I don't know enough about him and his shtick to understand the greater context. I'm also not familiar enough with those dog whistles to catch them all out in the wild
Edit: spelling
insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe · 18 pts · 347d
I think it was the asker who also said "great." sarcastically when gang violence was mentioned (just before the shot), adding to the timing.
skisnow@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 347d
You know how in certain types of antihero drama where the protagonist is an assassin, they're always careful to make the target as cartoonishly obnoxious as possible at a kind of cue to let the audience know that they're not supposed to feel bad for them?
They could use this verbatim as the script.
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 346d
Also while sitting in a tent plastered in "prove me wrong"
Railcar8095@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 347d
cm0002@piefed.world · 17 pts · 347d
🤌
jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 347d
You'd need a case of dynamite and some matches to cut through that irony.
Nougat@fedia.io · 14 pts · 347d
HEYOOOOO
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 347d
Those chicks seemed like smug ass Karen’s. It’s scary how well composed and dedicated to the narrative they were after witnessing someone they liked being shot but then again they were fans. Nazis
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 347d
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balderdash9@lemmy.zip · 54 pts · 347d
I have to admit, the Republicans were right about the second amendment. We need to be (legally) buying guns and (legally) protesting with them.
shalafi@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 347d
Judge just now ruled that banning open carry in Florida is unconstitutional. Our shithead governor is pushing for a new law. Like about every other conservative, they don't think the rest of us are armed.
xodoh74984@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 347d
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus · 10 pts · 347d
I have to say the shooter made sure his kill didn't suffer for long; i think a hunter would have been proud and it looks like it was over instantly.
Deceptichum@quokk.au · 8 pts · 347d
D_C@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 347d
I saw the picture of the just before part, not sure I want to watch the actual thing. However I know he (gleefully) damaged many, many lives and I know that some of them will be happy to watch this.
wheezy@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 346d
People are very focused on the blood gushing part. And I get that. But I can't say I haven't had that normalized by movies. It's not that different.
The shocking thing about it to me is not the blood but his reaction. Movies do not capture the subtlety of watching the life leave from someone's body so quickly. I think that's what makes the blood so much more shocking.
I don't watch this kind of stuff ever. I saw it on twitter by mistake. It was hard not to.
psud@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 344d
I used to follow /r/watchPeopleDie, so I've seen so many videos of people dying. Not many are anywhere near this bloody
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 347d
Fountain of blood is an understatement. It looked like special effects. The guy went out like a DOOM villain. He died gargling on his own blood.
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 347d
Sauce? I need to watch this plsss
ickplant@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 347d
https://mastodon.social/@Ulfh3dnar/115181548207581457 NSFL
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 22 pts · 347d
I need this but longer
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 347d
Resident Evil 4 Original, just intentionally lose to the Chainsaw dude. That shit actualy scared me as a kid, this is nothing.
I think they censored the decapitation in the remake (but they still kept in the decapitation for non-chainsaw deaths, so idk what's the point)
belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 347d
Jesus.
Karjalan@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 347d
Yeah... All the people asking if he managed to survive either didn't see the vid, or don't understand bodies, cause he was unconscious within a second and dead seconds later.
The bullet ripped open some juicy neck tunnels and based on his contortion probably fucked with his spine too.
Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 347d
Most people have no idea how destructive bullets actually are to bodies, or how much you bleed. Most people have never seen, or have never seen many, actual shootings, and think that it is something in the neighborhood of an action movie on the bloodier side of things.
LittleBorat3@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 347d
The bullet just needs to hit a big artery and it's over.
CptEnder@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 347d
Yeah they're saying it was a high powered, bolt action rifle not just ya normal 5.56 AR. The crack of the shot was very distinctive, most likely something like .308 which will fuck up unarmored personnel.
psud@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 344d
30-06. A WW1 bullet, from before they decided faster, lighter bullets worked better.
hector@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 347d
The only movie I have seen that had realistic war or otherwise gun action was Saving Private Ryan.
Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 347d
There are some out there that show it, or how bloody violence in general is. However they are usually considered to be hard to watch, and always show up on lists. Things like Come and See, Possessor, etc.
hector@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 347d
Interestingly his head seemed to rock in the same direction that the bullet hit, you would think it would be away.
belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 347d
I think the bullet tore up much of the supporting structure on that side, that's why he slumped that way.
Fuck this vid is bad.
hector@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 346d
Right in the middle of his full-throated endorsement of the scapegoating of transsexuals too.
He was going right for the jugular.
Neck and neck with the president himself in making right wing public opinion.
wabafee@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 347d
kandoh@reddthat.com · 6 pts · 346d
Not as bad a way to go as people described to me. He loses consciousness immediately from blood loss, I bet he didn't even have time to feel anything, pain or fear wise.
PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 346d
It's a shame he was incapable of remorse.
fodor@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 347d
PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 346d
Yes real life is gruesome. You can say fuck on the internet.
Baked86@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 346d
The onion had a good headline, 'Charlie Kirk loses gun control debate by a longshot'
livejamie@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 346d
Where? I want to share it.
All I can find is "Trump: ‘Political Violence Has No Place In My Inner Circle’"
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 347d
They’re already committing violence. It’s just directed against brown people, we shouldn’t forget that. The level they expand and escalate it to is what’s up for debate.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 347d
Lol.
So long asshole.
Ran your mouth one day too long.
LittleBorat3@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 347d
I don't know a lot about him, I'm not US American.
I condemn violence in general but a person like him who helps polarize society, pours oil in the fire etc. may just reap what he sowed.
That's what you get, with culture war nonsense and playing sides of the political spectrum against each other. Strange to assume this would just stay rhetoric.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 347d
Main difference between him and someone else fueling the fire is the irony.
He specifically supported people bringing guns to schools wiith quotes that essentially boil down to "Gun violence happens but we just have to live with it to protect our god given rights."
He was the reason he could get shot.
OnlineWizard@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 346d
He sayd things like few gun related deaths each year is acceptable sacrifice if they can keep their god given right to bear arms. Also he said he does not understand empathy and it's just a made up new age term.
So he most definetly got what he sowed, what he deserved.
LowtierComputer@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 346d
He was saying that trans people shouldn't have guns because they commit lots of gun violence when he was shot (a lie as usual).
bookmeat@lemmynsfw.com · 4 pts · 346d
People with influence or status need to de-escalate with their words and actions, not by choice.
Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works · 33 pts · 347d
I give up. Are they gonna post the answer later? How does this work?
Naevermix@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 346d
kandoh@reddthat.com · 8 pts · 346d
Omg lol
gndagreborn@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 347d
Dude, I watched a youtube video of local news stations reporting over the shooting. The youtube comments are completely deranged and 100% written by AI. Somehow charlie kirk is being equated to MLK Jr.
LittleBorat3@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 347d
Yes because MLK breached hatred and that his kids could hopefully life with more hatred than him etc. Hatred is the future.
What a joke, some right wing asshole is like MLK
Laser@feddit.org · 5 pts · 346d
Lol that one subreddit also equated the two. Smallface will be forgotten within a year, he had no memorable message that people would rally behind. Anyone can spew his kind of hate, just needs a bit of training to beat some highschoolers in shitty debates. "Owning the libs" and using dog whistles is nothing that will make you more than some footnote.
MLK was a leader. Kirk was an arsonist.
kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 347d
Oh no, anyway
Naevermix@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 346d
Guidy@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 347d
It’s ironic to mention retributive violence while advocating against people’s rights to be armed to defend themselves.
Nobody is advocating for murder or murderers. While I dislike reddit, /r/DGU is typically very illustrative as to why it’s so important.
I hope - sincerely - to never need to defend myself or my family.
That doesn’t mean you get to disarm me so that some murderers can ignore the law and kill people anyway.
unmagical@lemmy.ml · 29 pts · 347d
Murder is strictly the illegal killing of someone.
If it is legal to target a minority group it may be illegal for that minority group to resist.
You can end up with a situation where Alice killing Bob is legal and not murder, but Bob killing Alice in self defence is murder.
In such cases the morality of Bob engaging in self defense is not so easily encompassed in "murder is wrong."
The_v@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 347d
So from a historical context:
A Nazi killing a Jew during WWII was not murder but a Jew killing a Nazi was.
A modern perspective:
A Israeli killing Palestinians is not murder, but a Palestinians killing Isrealis is.
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net · 21 pts · 347d
I'm a pro-2A gun owner, I suspect you may not be reading the meme the way I intended / expected.
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 346d
How many people have been snatched off the street and disappeared to secret prisons recently? Those people I am concerned about, this bigoted asshole eating lead while spewing bullshit…not at all. There is violence going on already and while I don’t wish for more deaths, there is no rehabilitation for a Nazi
molestme247@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 347d
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 48 pts · 347d
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 347d
flying_sheep@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 347d
Trump's cardiovascular problems will do him in soon. Charlie Kirk had 50 years of inciting hate ahead of him.
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com · 6 pts · 346d
Yeah I'm going to be a bit surprised if Trump's body survived to the end of his term. My wife was a CNA for a while in a couple of assisted living facilities and the conditions he has and the general decline that's been visible in his public appearances, he's not got long left at all. For an average joe in a nursing home I'd guess months left, for a leader of a wealthy country I'd say he has a chance of surviving to the end of his term, but he's going to be less and less able to hide the declining state of his health as time goes on
BigDiction@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 347d
Liberals claim the shot to my neck was impressive, yet my face was a much smaller target.
Curious.
EmilieEasie@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 342d
I genuinely can't tell anymore when people are using a real picture of him, or a face shrunk picture 😅
kreskin@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 347d
Hard to argue with logic like that.
I'm still not totally convinced he was right though, need more data.
wabafee@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 347d
Fascist finally received his 💊
yeahiknow3@lemmings.world · 11 pts · 347d
He has a point.
peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 347d
Sometimes the Universe just gets it 100% right, today is one of those days.
kandoh@reddthat.com · 9 pts · 346d
wheezy@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 346d
Let it out mate. We were all thinking this. No one is sad the neonazi died. Rest in piss Charlie.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 347d
Shootin' freude
rockettaco37@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 347d
I'm totally stealing this. Sorry, not sorry
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 346d
Please do!
rockettaco37@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 346d
I totally promise not to use this for evil
pyre@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 346d
yeah you shouldn't advocate for gun violence when you have a massive critbox yourself.