Rings are socially relevant demarcations of sexual availability. Diamonds are just shiny rocks. Frankly, rings with any stones in them piss me off. They catch on your clothes and rip your favorite fucking sweater, and it’s laundry day so you can’t even grab something else because your other clothes are soaked in vomit because projectile vomiting all over a crowd is the most reasonable course of action when you’re a dumb asshole dicking around on a balcony on new years, apparently.
Well this reply certainly took a turn! Especially since NYE was 9+ months ago. Woman have had sex that night, and given birth since then. And you still haven't done laundry yet???
We got married because otherwise her parents would get too annoying when we moved in together. We picked out rings without stones together and had six people present at the wedding.
Same philosophy, but we did get married after we realized the legal protections and tax benefits were worth it. We just saw too much opportunity for our very dissimilar families to pull some nonsense if someone became ill or incapacitated.
We snuck into a park (that requires reservations for ceremonies) with some friends and that was that.
The rings are simple and inexpensive, and also rarely worn. We know what we’re about.
Congratulations ... we get along with each others families very well now and there's no worries about anyone pulling anything on us (although there is always a chance that may change) ... but at the same time, everyone is now so freakin old that it almost doesn't matter to anyone any more. We are seriously thinking of getting officially married, simply for the fact that this is the only way to deal with medical rights issues for spouses and partners.
Yeah. Both of us depart from our families, and didn’t want to be in a position where we could have a parent or sibling try to “pull rank” about some medical decision, or have to worry about assets.
got him a synthetic diamond ring for $300 (looks great, large diamond with lots of small decorative diamonds, easily looks 10x or even 100x the price we paid)
spent all of the money we would have spent on wedding and ring on a long vacation
What you described is exactly why Equal Marriage mattered so much. Thank you for highlighting that. I think, now, there are ways to designate someone in that role (besides marriage)? I'm not 100% sure of that. If not, I'd like to see that done.
For the original topic, I'm very much of the view that love should not be tied to consumerism of any type. If I were to get married, it would certainly be a courthouse wedding, with no rings or any of that; purely for those legal benefits.
In Canada, once you live with a commonlaw partner for a given number of years (I think its two or more years?) ... the law basically identifies you as a married couple in many ways. I think the only things left over is medical rights, do no resuscitate and right to die issues after that.
Sounds to me like they've made up their minds a long time ago and have proven their love for one another for over 30 years. I don't think there exists a thing that could prove it better.
It was like that for a year or two .... then it turned into 30 ... we wondered for a long time ... but after a while, you both realize, I'm never finding someone like this again in this lifetime.
Guess they have nothing to prove to each other, they don't need a piece of paper or someone else to proclaim they are together forever, they already know that.
My wife's engagement ring is an emerald, I don't think it was lab grown but it was way cheaper then a diamond and looks easy better then a piece of "glass"
I wonder if there's anyone interested creating lab diamonds that have imperfections that essentially become indistinguishable from the mined ones. There wouldn't be any money in it, but they could theoretically crash the blood diamond market.
Its already happened, its why big diamond cartels etch symbols into diamonds. They literally can't tell the difference anymore.
Its not super common for them to do that as its at least unethical and illegal in some places. Plus unless your literally trying to counterfeit, why would you want a flawed diamond?
Wife and I decided on moissanite. It's big, extra sparkly, and was at the time 1/10 the price a similar diamond would be. Almost as hard, too - won't get scratched except by another moissanite or a diamond.
This is what I always say. When people want diamonds they either want them because they're pretty or expensive. If you want expensive then buy a gold bullion, if you want pretty buy a moissanite, for both, buy both.
I got engagement with moissanite for my now-wife. She says it is too big and firery-sparkly. Costed me almost nothing compared to a micro-sized diamond on a silver ring I'd get at a major jeweler.
If it loses 50-80% of the value as soon as it's used, might as well get a used one if you must have a natural diamond. This also applies to cars and plenty of other things. Let someone with more money than you take the hit.
Now you just tell people that it was stolen from a murder victim. But it's alright because they had a really long life together before that happened. Then it's okay.
Damn, one of these without a "fake and gay" explanation, and I'm too tired to think of a good one. I've never gotten to be the fake and gay guy, and I'm missing my chance D:
But anyway, as others have said, lab grown, vintage, there are other options.
But has anyone considered a rock that doesn't just look like glass? There are so many cool rocks out there, people! I'd literally rather have a piece of quartz that my SO and I found together turned into a ring than I would have a piece of a much fancier/"valuable" stone that I have no attachment to.
When my parents got married, they had gone gem mining at one of those places with the troughs of dirt, and you pan it yourself. They found some rubies, and had wedding rings made from those. How fucking cool is that? Way cooler than a thing you have no connection to, I think.
So don't buy one. My girlfriend's will be getting one of those rings made of tungsten. Have you seen them they look amazing. It's simultaneously looks like something some elvish jewellery merchant made while at the same time looking like it made also activate the halo rings.
A diamond is just shiny.
Of course it's important to discuss these things with your partner in advance. Whether or not they would be happy with a non-diamond ring depends very much on the person. But it might be worth advocating for them because they look really nice and they are quite expensive but they're honestly more interesting than the diamond and ethically sourced. There's no such thing as blood tungsten.
If your finger swells up inside a tungsten ring, EMT's cannot cut through it with their normal tools. They have to use a high speed grinding tool. You or your loved one will not enjoy this procedure.
I wear a tungsten band. Always have to take it off before the gym or manual labor. I was told "in an emergency they can't cut the ring so they may have to cut the finger". It's cool though, I barely use that one and I have like 9 others.
Did a jeweler tell you that so they could sell you something expensive? Tungsten rings are hard but brittle. They can be broken with a pair of vise grips, just like stone rings.
I agree the "rock" hints strongly at it, but unless they're american* weddings aren't very expensive. That whole lavish show-off thing the rest of us just ignore.
Currently planning what seems like a fairly mid sized wedding in the UK
It's already looking like it's going to be over double the cost of a roughly equivalent wedding one of my friends had only 3 years ago
Based on some of the price lists of suppliers for the following year we've seen, they'll be getting even more expensive. The industry is getting quite out of hand
My wife and I looked at places a couple of friends got married at a couple of years earlier when we were planning on our wedding and those venues had doubled in price since then. A couple of years later our venue doubled in price. The wedding industry really seems intent on pricing itself out of existence!
It depends a lot on what you do, I am currently looking and its annoying how few mid price options there seem to be. Like its either go down the pub with your mates for £150, or £20k invite a bunch of people you barely even know.
Why so little in the 4 figure price range? Seems like for that you need to just organise something yourself and say its just a party.
Yeah pretty much, a community hall of some form that would let you do as you like with it kind of thing. Had a friend do that but she also wanted all the guests to bring their own dish to share for the meal. Given that she asked for money as a gift from people I am pretty sure it was the worlds only profitable wedding.
One of the ideas I had years ago was to get an uncut puck of lab diamond, (at the time this was ~$1500 from one place, probably cheaper now) find a lapidary and get them to cut out a literal diamondring, a ring made entirely of solid diamond, and then my spouse could say 'That's not a diamond ring. This is a diamond ring.' in a cheesy Aussie accent.
Check with your partner and see what kind of ring they want for their engagement.
I went to the jewelry store with my partner and shopped for her engagement ring. Ended up doing a custom piece with a rose-gold band and a couple of blue topaz gems. She wanted a ring that would fit comfortably under exam gloves (she worked in a lab at the time). She's much happier with it than a big heavy pointy rock, and it was way cheaper (like 450 for the whole ring).
On that note, I find diamonds to be the most boring gemstone. Any of the ones with colour are far more interesting to me, I don't get why anyone would want to pay more for diamonds (outside of their industrial purposes) even if they were actually rarer.
I'm going the custom route as well I just think if you give them something custom it's so much more meaningful than just going and buying something that was merely expensive.
Also with a really expensive diamond ring you never want to wear it because you always worried it's going to get stolen.
White sapphire is even cheaper than moissanite and most people don't know any better. It's a little less durable than diamond but looks a lot like a natural diamond. My wife cared more about the look than the actual pricetag, so I got what looks like thousands of dollars worth of ring for less than 10% of that. She's clumsy, so if she bumps into something and the stone pops out and gets lost, no big deal.
Discuss with your partner. Do not try to trick them by getting them a diamond alternative and then telling them it's a diamond. A reasonable partner (imo) would rather put some of that money towards the wedding and/or marriage itself rather than into a ring. Get the wedding menu you really want or put it towards a house down payment or new furniture or something.
I buy my wife jewelry with artificial diamonds, not because she wants it, but because I love to see her wearing it. She calls me a magpie for good reason.
There is one type of natural diamond that doesn't lose its value. Those are mine cut diamonds. They haven't cut them at the mines since before the cartels took over. I found this out one day, because my GF would wear her late grandmother's wedding and engagement bands. We got curious one day, and wandered into the fancy jewelry story in the mall. I said to the guy, "I know you can't give us an official appraisal, but could you take a look and give us a ballpark." He slipped the loupe on and took a look. Immediately he said something like, "Oh, wow! Haven't seen one of these before." He explained that all 20 of the ¼ carat diamonds and the large 2 carat diamond were all mine cut, so the engagement band could have fetched $100,000 and the wedding band was worth about $250,0000 in 2000 dollars.
Needless to say, she stopped wearing it frequently after she found out.
Not doubting what you're saying (because I've heard it many times already) but that picture looks misleading because of the different light hitting each stone. These marketing tricks are so obvious that at this point they can even make the truth look like a lie.
Mine is moissy too, I picked it out, would have been pissed if my now husband wasted a car's worth of money to get the equivalent diamond, and wanted a solitaire, and I like this stone better.
No it doesn't get scratched up, as I am not scratching at it with a diamond. It's very hard.
Diamonds are really hard but there's other things that are pretty much up there. Unless you're planning on repeatedly punching sharpened graphite spikes with no gloves on wear isn't really a problem.
You might be thinking of cubic zirconium, which is another replacement for diamond. That one is softer, but my understanding is that it's still quite difficult to scratch
I mean if you want to go down that path, all expressions of love are inherently devoid of meaning outside of that we prescribe to them. If an over valued blood diamond that your partner wants because of perverse marketing is truly the object that to them communicates the epitome of love; the only real question is if making your love known to your partner is worth that amount of money.
Lab grown diamonds are actually flawless, so the jewellery industry represents them as being too perfect. Apparently you need the imperfections that natural diamonds have in order to have 'character' and therfore value!
I got a 4 pack of silicone rings. I keep one in my desk, one in my car, etc... because I take my tungsten band off all the time and occasionally forget it.
Dang a lot of diamond haters in the comments! I would never buy a mined diamond for the ethical concerns but I think lab grown diamonds are worth the price. Moissanite is really pretty but it does throw more colors which may not be to everyone's taste. Diamonds have a really clean white sparkle. And the price difference between the two is not as big as it used to be apparently.
Car getting devaluated after buy it's a total scam!!! I'd love to go there, let me feel the steering wheel and say "hmmm what? Dude, I just touched the steer, that devaluated the car, why are you selling to me as new??"
I don't really know about posts like this, but the only board I occasionally go on these days is DIY. Still riddled with brain rot and fascism, but some of the 3d printing and sewing threads are interesting imo
Anon hasn't figured out that what is important to her is what should be important to him on this one. Trying to rationalize with her that the diamond ring she wants from this (potentially) most important event in her life isn't worth it is a sure fire way to ruin this for her.
Shared values are certainly important. However, Anon may quickly learn that his importance on spending money on Fantasy Football, Warhammer, or automotive tuning (or whatever his hobby/vice may be) may also quickly get shot down by his alternate shared-values compatible wife when he finds one that doesn't want a diamond engagement ring for being wasteful.
If anon is worried about the resale value of a wedding ring after the purchase, I'm not sure if he quite understands the purpose of a wedding ring.
Fantasy Football (gridiron) was started upon the NFL game stats. There have been repeated citations of injuries to players, including many CTE cases, and these players frequently come up through the ranks from poverty as a method to earn scholarship education and income. The exploitation occurs because for many players, this may be their best path out of low economic conditions and are coerced to play when injured, and frequently discarded by football when they become injured leaving them with nothing.
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Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 98 pts · 313d
Rings are socially relevant demarcations of sexual availability. Diamonds are just shiny rocks. Frankly, rings with any stones in them piss me off. They catch on your clothes and rip your favorite fucking sweater, and it’s laundry day so you can’t even grab something else because your other clothes are soaked in vomit because projectile vomiting all over a crowd is the most reasonable course of action when you’re a dumb asshole dicking around on a balcony on new years, apparently.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 63 pts · 313d
Well this reply certainly took a turn! Especially since NYE was 9+ months ago. Woman have had sex that night, and given birth since then. And you still haven't done laundry yet???
Dude.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 54 pts · 313d
Don’t tell me how to live my life.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 313d
KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 28 pts · 313d
Oddly specific ending
ryannathans@aussie.zone · 13 pts · 313d
You can have well made rings with stones that don't catch on fabrics
Source: I make rings
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca · 70 pts · 313d
Never bought her a diamond
Never even bought a ring
Never even got married with a giant ceremony or big event
Been together for over 30 years, bought property and all kinds of things, traveled to over 30 countries. Still not married.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 313d
We got married because otherwise her parents would get too annoying when we moved in together. We picked out rings without stones together and had six people present at the wedding.
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 313d
Congratulations ... best kind of wedding in my opinion
Monument@lemmy.sdf.org · 15 pts · 313d
Same philosophy, but we did get married after we realized the legal protections and tax benefits were worth it. We just saw too much opportunity for our very dissimilar families to pull some nonsense if someone became ill or incapacitated.
We snuck into a park (that requires reservations for ceremonies) with some friends and that was that.
The rings are simple and inexpensive, and also rarely worn. We know what we’re about.
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 313d
Congratulations ... we get along with each others families very well now and there's no worries about anyone pulling anything on us (although there is always a chance that may change) ... but at the same time, everyone is now so freakin old that it almost doesn't matter to anyone any more. We are seriously thinking of getting officially married, simply for the fact that this is the only way to deal with medical rights issues for spouses and partners.
Monument@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 313d
Yeah. Both of us depart from our families, and didn’t want to be in a position where we could have a parent or sibling try to “pull rank” about some medical decision, or have to worry about assets.
idunnololz@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 313d
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 313d
Congratulations
idunnololz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 313d
Thank you. This was in like 2020 though so it has been a while :D
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 313d
Congratulations on 5 years then ... no better way to show you love someone than to stick with them for that long.
idunnololz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 313d
Thank you!
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 313d
Didn't buy her a diamond or a ring, but I did buy a marriage certificate and signed it at the location of our first date. We're pretty happy with it
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 313d
Congratulations
Beautiful ... you don't need a public ceremony to display how much you love someone
Zozano@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 313d
Same boat.
At the end of the day, marriage is a government contract.
Why the fuck would I want the government involved in my relationship?
sleepundertheleaves@infosec.pub · 11 pts · 313d
KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 313d
What you described is exactly why Equal Marriage mattered so much. Thank you for highlighting that. I think, now, there are ways to designate someone in that role (besides marriage)? I'm not 100% sure of that. If not, I'd like to see that done.
For the original topic, I'm very much of the view that love should not be tied to consumerism of any type. If I were to get married, it would certainly be a courthouse wedding, with no rings or any of that; purely for those legal benefits.
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 313d
Congratulations
In Canada, once you live with a commonlaw partner for a given number of years (I think its two or more years?) ... the law basically identifies you as a married couple in many ways. I think the only things left over is medical rights, do no resuscitate and right to die issues after that.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · -4 pts · 313d
"still haven't made my mind up" aaa relationship 😭🥀💀
PieMePlenty@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 313d
Sounds to me like they've made up their minds a long time ago and have proven their love for one another for over 30 years. I don't think there exists a thing that could prove it better.
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 313d
It was like that for a year or two .... then it turned into 30 ... we wondered for a long time ... but after a while, you both realize, I'm never finding someone like this again in this lifetime.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 313d
Why not just get married then?
dev_null@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 312d
Guess they have nothing to prove to each other, they don't need a piece of paper or someone else to proclaim they are together forever, they already know that.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 312d
Marriage isn't just a piece of paper. It's a spiritual union
dev_null@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 312d
They can be spiritually united without a special ceremony, all depends on their personal beliefs.
CatsPajamas@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 48 pts · 313d
Lab grown emeralds are a couple hundred bucks and are way prettier than diamonds.
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 20 pts · 313d
My wife's engagement ring is an emerald, I don't think it was lab grown but it was way cheaper then a diamond and looks easy better then a piece of "glass"
filcuk@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 313d
My friend works with lab grown crystals and there re ones like lutetium aluminium garnet doped with cerium (LuAG:Ce) and similar which look awesome
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 313d
I just looked them up, they're almost like kryptonite, or TV Uranium. That's so cool
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 313d
I wonder if there's anyone interested creating lab diamonds that have imperfections that essentially become indistinguishable from the mined ones. There wouldn't be any money in it, but they could theoretically crash the blood diamond market.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 312d
Its already happened, its why big diamond cartels etch symbols into diamonds. They literally can't tell the difference anymore.
Its not super common for them to do that as its at least unethical and illegal in some places. Plus unless your literally trying to counterfeit, why would you want a flawed diamond?
chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 313d
Moissanite is an excellent diamond alternative if you want a clear stone. Cheaper, just as resilient, and sparkly as fuck.
fishy@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 313d
Yup, it's even what they use in their displays because they sparkle more than a diamond.
LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 312d
No I'm pretty sure that's just so if there's a robbery they aren't stealing the good stuff.
AtariDump@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 312d
Just like the pancake syrup they pour over the pancakes in the TV commercial (it used to be motor oil).
Or the milk they put in the cereal (it used to be thinned out Elmer’s glue)
Inaminate_Carbon_Rod@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 312d
My wife has a Tanzanite engagement ring and loves talking about it
IMO it’s kind of romantic Tanzanite only comes from one single place.
davidgro@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 313d
Wife and I decided on moissanite. It's big, extra sparkly, and was at the time 1/10 the price a similar diamond would be. Almost as hard, too - won't get scratched except by another moissanite or a diamond.
olafurp@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 313d
This is what I always say. When people want diamonds they either want them because they're pretty or expensive. If you want expensive then buy a gold bullion, if you want pretty buy a moissanite, for both, buy both.
imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 313d
I got engagement with moissanite for my now-wife. She says it is too big and firery-sparkly. Costed me almost nothing compared to a micro-sized diamond on a silver ring I'd get at a major jeweler.
LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 312d
Eh it's now about 1/3 the price. Lab diamonds are getting cheap. Still a solid option though.
davidgro@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 312d
Ah, I haven't kept up, I edited my post a little. Thanks!
kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 35 pts · 313d
If it loses 50-80% of the value as soon as it's used, might as well get a used one if you must have a natural diamond. This also applies to cars and plenty of other things. Let someone with more money than you take the hit.
Xabis@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 313d
Pretty sure a used engagement ring is worse than lab grown in the eyes of the unwashed masses.
Pulptastic@midwest.social · 18 pts · 313d
Used means cursed, it failed once and will fail again. As if the mined materials have any effect in a relationship.
echodot@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 313d
Now you just tell people that it was stolen from a murder victim. But it's alright because they had a really long life together before that happened. Then it's okay.
zerofk@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 312d
Unfortunately the murderer was their significant other.
dharmacurious@slrpnk.net · 29 pts · 313d
Damn, one of these without a "fake and gay" explanation, and I'm too tired to think of a good one. I've never gotten to be the fake and gay guy, and I'm missing my chance D:
But anyway, as others have said, lab grown, vintage, there are other options.
But has anyone considered a rock that doesn't just look like glass? There are so many cool rocks out there, people! I'd literally rather have a piece of quartz that my SO and I found together turned into a ring than I would have a piece of a much fancier/"valuable" stone that I have no attachment to.
When my parents got married, they had gone gem mining at one of those places with the troughs of dirt, and you pan it yourself. They found some rubies, and had wedding rings made from those. How fucking cool is that? Way cooler than a thing you have no connection to, I think.
BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz · 14 pts · 313d
Fake: anon has a gf
Gay: anon doesn’t want to buy an engagement ring for his fake gf
yakko@feddit.uk · 13 pts · 313d
Fake: anon uses 4chan but refers to himself as a normie
Gay: getting himself blackpilled on het culture
ryedaft@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 313d
Diamonds don't look like glass.
Other than that you are correct about everything.
dharmacurious@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 313d
I mean, I was being hyperbolic, but they're just... Boring to me. I know a lot of people love them, but to me they just look like fancy glass.
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 313d
My wife and I got alexandrite+opal because holy shit those are two really pretty rocks, diamonds belong on drill bits
dharmacurious@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 313d
That's so cool!
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · -5 pts · 313d
Thank you!!
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 311d
You having a wife? Stop lying loser
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · -4 pts · 311d
Lol stay mad loser
echodot@feddit.uk · 26 pts · 313d
So don't buy one. My girlfriend's will be getting one of those rings made of tungsten. Have you seen them they look amazing. It's simultaneously looks like something some elvish jewellery merchant made while at the same time looking like it made also activate the halo rings.
A diamond is just shiny.
Of course it's important to discuss these things with your partner in advance. Whether or not they would be happy with a non-diamond ring depends very much on the person. But it might be worth advocating for them because they look really nice and they are quite expensive but they're honestly more interesting than the diamond and ethically sourced. There's no such thing as blood tungsten.
mister_flibble@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 312d
Worked at a jewelers for a while years ago. If that's the vibe you're going for I'd suggest a moss agate:
Olhonestjim@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 312d
If your finger swells up inside a tungsten ring, EMT's cannot cut through it with their normal tools. They have to use a high speed grinding tool. You or your loved one will not enjoy this procedure.
Don't get tungsten rings.
obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 312d
I wear a tungsten band. Always have to take it off before the gym or manual labor. I was told "in an emergency they can't cut the ring so they may have to cut the finger". It's cool though, I barely use that one and I have like 9 others.
uid0gid0@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 312d
Did a jeweler tell you that so they could sell you something expensive? Tungsten rings are hard but brittle. They can be broken with a pair of vise grips, just like stone rings.
Olhonestjim@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 312d
Nah, I've never bought pricey jewelry. Just a thing I have seen several times online. That's how you know it's true.
Anyway, if that's the case, good to know, thanks.
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 312d
They make them with break points now.
mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 311d
A dremel won’t work on tungsten rings?
Olhonestjim@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 311d
Sure, but a swollen finger is gonna feel it too. But apparently they're designed to break safely now.
festnt@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 310d
some diamonds glow in the dark. if i ever get a diamond ring i want a lab grown glow in the dark diamond in it
echodot@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 310d
I would be highly suspicious of a glow in the dark diamonds.
magnetosphere@fedia.io · 25 pts · 313d
Wait until he finds out how much the reception will cost.
troed@fedia.io · 6 pts · 313d
I agree the "rock" hints strongly at it, but unless they're american* weddings aren't very expensive. That whole lavish show-off thing the rest of us just ignore.
*) hmm, maybe indian too
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 313d
Dutch wedding receptions aren't cheap either, the main difference is that here it's much more common to keep it small and not have a reception.
troed@fedia.io · 1 pts · 313d
Exactly - there's no general custom to throw one in "keeping up with the Joneses"-style.
9point6@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 313d
Currently planning what seems like a fairly mid sized wedding in the UK
It's already looking like it's going to be over double the cost of a roughly equivalent wedding one of my friends had only 3 years ago
Based on some of the price lists of suppliers for the following year we've seen, they'll be getting even more expensive. The industry is getting quite out of hand
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 313d
My wife and I looked at places a couple of friends got married at a couple of years earlier when we were planning on our wedding and those venues had doubled in price since then. A couple of years later our venue doubled in price. The wedding industry really seems intent on pricing itself out of existence!
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 313d
How much does it cost compared to the ceremony itself?
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 313d
It depends a lot on what you do, I am currently looking and its annoying how few mid price options there seem to be. Like its either go down the pub with your mates for £150, or £20k invite a bunch of people you barely even know.
Why so little in the 4 figure price range? Seems like for that you need to just organise something yourself and say its just a party.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 313d
I wonder if it would just be cheaper to get catering to the Church hall, kind of like how they do with funerals and ordinations
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 313d
Yeah pretty much, a community hall of some form that would let you do as you like with it kind of thing. Had a friend do that but she also wanted all the guests to bring their own dish to share for the meal. Given that she asked for money as a gift from people I am pretty sure it was the worlds only profitable wedding.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 313d
That's actually such a great idea....
Sunsofold@lemmings.world · 23 pts · 312d
One of the ideas I had years ago was to get an uncut puck of lab diamond, (at the time this was ~$1500 from one place, probably cheaper now) find a lapidary and get them to cut out a literal diamond ring, a ring made entirely of solid diamond, and then my spouse could say 'That's not a diamond ring. This is a diamond ring.' in a cheesy Aussie accent.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 313d
Check with your partner and see what kind of ring they want for their engagement.
I went to the jewelry store with my partner and shopped for her engagement ring. Ended up doing a custom piece with a rose-gold band and a couple of blue topaz gems. She wanted a ring that would fit comfortably under exam gloves (she worked in a lab at the time). She's much happier with it than a big heavy pointy rock, and it was way cheaper (like 450 for the whole ring).
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 313d
On that note, I find diamonds to be the most boring gemstone. Any of the ones with colour are far more interesting to me, I don't get why anyone would want to pay more for diamonds (outside of their industrial purposes) even if they were actually rarer.
echodot@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 313d
I'm going the custom route as well I just think if you give them something custom it's so much more meaningful than just going and buying something that was merely expensive.
Also with a really expensive diamond ring you never want to wear it because you always worried it's going to get stolen.
MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 312d
White sapphire is even cheaper than moissanite and most people don't know any better. It's a little less durable than diamond but looks a lot like a natural diamond. My wife cared more about the look than the actual pricetag, so I got what looks like thousands of dollars worth of ring for less than 10% of that. She's clumsy, so if she bumps into something and the stone pops out and gets lost, no big deal.
Discuss with your partner. Do not try to trick them by getting them a diamond alternative and then telling them it's a diamond. A reasonable partner (imo) would rather put some of that money towards the wedding and/or marriage itself rather than into a ring. Get the wedding menu you really want or put it towards a house down payment or new furniture or something.
Pringles@sopuli.xyz · 18 pts · 313d
I buy my wife jewelry with artificial diamonds, not because she wants it, but because I love to see her wearing it. She calls me a magpie for good reason.
Ooh sparkly things!
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 313d
There is one type of natural diamond that doesn't lose its value. Those are mine cut diamonds. They haven't cut them at the mines since before the cartels took over. I found this out one day, because my GF would wear her late grandmother's wedding and engagement bands. We got curious one day, and wandered into the fancy jewelry story in the mall. I said to the guy, "I know you can't give us an official appraisal, but could you take a look and give us a ballpark." He slipped the loupe on and took a look. Immediately he said something like, "Oh, wow! Haven't seen one of these before." He explained that all 20 of the ¼ carat diamonds and the large 2 carat diamond were all mine cut, so the engagement band could have fetched $100,000 and the wedding band was worth about $250,0000 in 2000 dollars.
Needless to say, she stopped wearing it frequently after she found out.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 313d
Got my wife a Moissanite ring, it's even shinyer than diamonds and way cheaper, i love being with a practical woman <3
Moissanite gang rise up
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 313d
Not doubting what you're saying (because I've heard it many times already) but that picture looks misleading because of the different light hitting each stone. These marketing tricks are so obvious that at this point they can even make the truth look like a lie.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 312d
The rainbow light in the graphic looks cheesy, but that is what the visual difference between the two rocks looks like
Dasus@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 313d
Yea sure man, but why is your comparison a rainbow being shat on the supposedly superior stone while the other gets a dull monotone?
RBWells@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 312d
Mine is moissy too, I picked it out, would have been pissed if my now husband wasted a car's worth of money to get the equivalent diamond, and wanted a solitaire, and I like this stone better.
No it doesn't get scratched up, as I am not scratching at it with a diamond. It's very hard.
Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 313d
Isn't it much softer too? Ie, it'll be all scratched to hell by day to day wear?
BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 313d
Nah Moissanite is still one of the hardest materials on earth at 9.5 on the mohs scale. Ain't shit gonna scratch that
Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 313d
Ah nice good to know.
echodot@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 313d
Diamonds are really hard but there's other things that are pretty much up there. Unless you're planning on repeatedly punching sharpened graphite spikes with no gloves on wear isn't really a problem.
Contramuffin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 313d
You might be thinking of cubic zirconium, which is another replacement for diamond. That one is softer, but my understanding is that it's still quite difficult to scratch
Dasus@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 313d
The obvious answer is to buy a large synthetic one. It's still real.
Overshoot2648@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 313d
Nah, get a moissanite, it is more brilliant, and because it is used as high voltage SiCfets it is way cheaper.
Dasus@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 313d
Yeah sure, I'll consider that if and when monogamy ever becomes any sort of option for me.
But disregarding me, personally, you can see quite how there's a bit of manipulation going on if you're pretending that the visual is "real", right?
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org · 13 pts · 313d
So do what my better half and i did - buy a ring from Etsy with a lab-grown stone.
Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 313d
Just gift each other something practical and romantic, like a sword.
_AutumnMoon_@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 313d
Exactly!
Taalnazi@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 313d
Or a stone that you saw on the ground somewhere, and just liked.
Fleur_@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 313d
I mean if you want to go down that path, all expressions of love are inherently devoid of meaning outside of that we prescribe to them. If an over valued blood diamond that your partner wants because of perverse marketing is truly the object that to them communicates the epitome of love; the only real question is if making your love known to your partner is worth that amount of money.
salacious_coaster@infosec.pub · 7 pts · 313d
Modern CZs actually look really good
supamanc@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 313d
Lab grown diamonds are actually flawless, so the jewellery industry represents them as being too perfect. Apparently you need the imperfections that natural diamonds have in order to have 'character' and therfore value!
Fmstrat@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 313d
My ring is made of silicone. Nice little grooves so it doesn't trap sweat, too. Lightweight, durable, replacable, and a lifetime warranty.
blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 313d
Where'd you get it from? Curious about the grooves
Fmstrat@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 312d
https://www.groovelife.com/
I also like their belts.
obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 312d
I got a 4 pack of silicone rings. I keep one in my desk, one in my car, etc... because I take my tungsten band off all the time and occasionally forget it.
Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 312d
My fiancé and I both were on the same page about how stupid it is. So I got her a lab grown alexandrite ring, and she is in love with it.
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 311d
I got mine a moonstone!
LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 312d
Dang a lot of diamond haters in the comments! I would never buy a mined diamond for the ethical concerns but I think lab grown diamonds are worth the price. Moissanite is really pretty but it does throw more colors which may not be to everyone's taste. Diamonds have a really clean white sparkle. And the price difference between the two is not as big as it used to be apparently.
drmoose@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 312d
To me diamond looks like a piece of glass. Sure it's more durable but I think the existence of modern glass ruined any visual uniqueness diamond had.
Then the things like Swarovski crystals just entirely destroyed any remaining appeal.
capuccino@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 312d
Car getting devaluated after buy it's a total scam!!! I'd love to go there, let me feel the steering wheel and say "hmmm what? Dude, I just touched the steer, that devaluated the car, why are you selling to me as new??"
someguy3@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 311d
Show cars are sold with a discount.
capuccino@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 311d
Nice. Didn't knew that.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 311d
What happened next?
fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 313d
Blaming Sooners is weird, since the trend is slowly moving away from diamonds
SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 313d
Get ye some moissonite, son
CaptainHowdy@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 312d
What board has posts like this nowadays? I was on the chans a few weeks back and it was basically all brain rot and fascism.
bunnyBoy@pawb.social · 4 pts · 312d
I don't really know about posts like this, but the only board I occasionally go on these days is DIY. Still riddled with brain rot and fascism, but some of the 3d printing and sewing threads are interesting imo
Phoenix3875@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 313d
So why is anon posting this on the internet rather than presenting to the "qt gf" again?
partial_accumen@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 313d
Anon hasn't figured out that what is important to her is what should be important to him on this one. Trying to rationalize with her that the diamond ring she wants from this (potentially) most important event in her life isn't worth it is a sure fire way to ruin this for her.
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 313d
If it's really that important to her, he might want to reconsider the whole engagement. Compatibility of morals is not unimportant in a relationship.
partial_accumen@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 313d
Shared values are certainly important. However, Anon may quickly learn that his importance on spending money on Fantasy Football, Warhammer, or automotive tuning (or whatever his hobby/vice may be) may also quickly get shot down by his alternate shared-values compatible wife when he finds one that doesn't want a diamond engagement ring for being wasteful.
If anon is worried about the resale value of a wedding ring after the purchase, I'm not sure if he quite understands the purpose of a wedding ring.
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 313d
None of those are industries build on (modern) slavery and exploitation though.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 313d
She might be cool with and prefer a lab-grown or vintage diamond, though.
partial_accumen@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 313d
She absolutely might be, and anon should have a discussion with her to make sure that matches her preferences and desires.
partial_accumen@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 313d
You haven't looked very deeply at the American Football industry where Fantasy Football derives its data/basis from then, then I take it.
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 313d
That is correct, I'm not American
partial_accumen@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 313d
Fantasy Football (gridiron) was started upon the NFL game stats. There have been repeated citations of injuries to players, including many CTE cases, and these players frequently come up through the ranks from poverty as a method to earn scholarship education and income. The exploitation occurs because for many players, this may be their best path out of low economic conditions and are coerced to play when injured, and frequently discarded by football when they become injured leaving them with nothing.
salacious_coaster@infosec.pub · 7 pts · 313d
Diamond marketing really did a number on people
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 313d
The fact that it's only important because of decades of advertisements from big companies makes it an exception for this once surely.