Like the flight where the 'Karen' notified the stewardess that a passenger was writing notes in a foreign language and was concerned he was a possible threat. Turned out he was doing math equations
subtraction rule only allows a smaller numeral to be placed before a larger one if it is one of the following combinations: IV, IX, XL, XC, CD, or CM. The numeral 'i' ((1)) can only be placed before a 'V' ((5)) or an 'X' ((10)).
That rule wasn't always hard and fast, just as IV or XL were sometimes written as IIII or XXXX respectively. The XVIII Legion was occasionally termed XIIX, which should have been right out, but it worked well enough to inscribe in stone on a memorial and use on official calendars.
The fundamental requirement was that People would look at it and understand what it is saying. There was no "Office of Numeral Oversight" correcting people. The norms that we may learn about are descriptive of the majority, but not strictly prescriptive for all the cases.
If it follows the basic additive/subtractive pattern, it's good enough.
I hate that when i see memes like this all i can think is "its only a matter of time before stupid people share this with other stupid people unironically"
It probably happened before you even saw the meme.
Fox News is gonna run a piece on how we must eliminate Arabic numerals from American society. Your family will be talking about this travesty at Thanksgiving.
Slice a large eggplant in half, place face down in a glass baking pan. Add a few tablespoons oil, shake salt, pepper, paprika, garlic powder lightly on top.
Cover with lid and bake at 375° for an hour. Till skin is shriveled and darker. You can also uncover near the end and roast it more if you like.
Let it cool. Take each half and scrape the loose insides into a food processor, it should just all slide off the skin. Add a few cloves of garlic, some lemon juice (maybe 3 tableapoons or adjust to your tastes), then toast a layer of sesame seeds in a smaller pan 6 or 9 inch sized with a bit of oil. Stir them often because they will burn if the heat gets to them too long.
Add to the food processor and blend till garlic and seeds are chopped fine.
Salt and pepper to taste.
I'm not a fan of hummus, but I'd be down for that class anyways. Teach kids some delicious food, particularly foreign in origin, to show them the rest of the world has nice things too!
Until they pull a Britain and invade countries for their food...
I don’t know man, something about his damn smile is so funny to me. It’s so smug, he’s always smiling like he just absolutely knows he’s making some very rich assholes panic and I love everything about it.
Funny that in Chinese, I literally have always known it as 阿拉伯數字 (Arabic Numerals).
I'm starting to realize more and more how much the Chinese Language is just simply better at teaching concepts.
Disclaimer, I am ethnic Chinese, but I'm totally not biased at all :D
Edit:
Also, while we're on the topic of Numerals, teach Chinese Numbers as well, its literally one syllable per character, much easier to pronounce and remember.
English has become my primary language, but I still often find myself counting in Chinese (Cantonese).
They're definitely known as Arabic numerals elsewhere too. It's mentioned in Math class fairly early on when Roman numerals are also introduced. I'm sure that even in American schools, it's mentioned that they're called Arabic numerals.
Unless you mean that in Chinese there's just no word for "numbers" and you have to use the name of the specific system?
I mean, I've personally never heard of the term "Arabic Numeral" being uttered in a classroom from 2nd grade all the way through Highschool in the US Schools I've went to. It's just "write the numbers in words" or in "numbers/digits".
Damn, maybe the US system is worse than I thought.
There are so many general knowledge things that aren't necessary for survival or to do your job that the general populace seems to lack. This is one of them
I once said "Arabic Numerals" in class (US), and my classmates thought I was trying to be racist... like... bruh... that's literally what these nunbers are called...
Chinese/Japanese characters have kindof always led to good student outcomes in wrote memorization because of the necessity of pattern recognition. With an alphabet there’s simply less to learn, and you don’t have much context since etymology in alphabet based languages is so much more esoteric.
Also, Americans aren’t really taught much about technology from outside of the American sphere of influence. American schooling has a lot of dead zones.
96 Comments
expatriado@lemmy.world · 122 pts · 281d
you can count on it
slothrop@lemmy.ca · 46 pts · 281d
Would have been a better headline!
Agent641@lemmy.world · 98 pts · 281d
He's indoctrinating out youth with a satanic Muslim mysticism called Al-Gebra.
pyre@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 281d
in case some people don't know: algebra actually comes from the Arabic word "al-jabr".
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 280d
Number one justification for islamophobia and sinophobia.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 280d
I legit never heard the word sinophobia and I thought it was a trigonometry joke.
I guess we need a joke that combines math and racism then.
It's the 0th cause of Indophobia?
Sorry, didn't mean to go off on a tangent.
FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com · 73 pts · 281d
dohpaz42@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 281d
Are you referring to the dihydrogen monoxide scares of the ‘00s?
7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 281d
100% of the people that drink that die.
🤣🤣🤣
hayvan@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 280d
There are still people alive who drink dhmo. But it's close to 100% indeed.
guy@piefed.social · 7 pts · 281d
Or bombing Agrabah?
FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com · 2 pts · 281d
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 280d
DNA stand for Delightful Nuclear-happy gAndhi, duh.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 280d
Kinda a stupid gotcha to gatekeep with. Ask about a basic function such as “what are the 4 bases” and turn it into a teaching moment.
FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 280d
BCsven@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 281d
Like the flight where the 'Karen' notified the stewardess that a passenger was writing notes in a foreign language and was concerned he was a possible threat. Turned out he was doing math equations
FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com · 8 pts · 281d
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 281d
Yeah, our stupid people really broke the mold over here. They are painfully dumb, and trying to reason with them will actually damage your health.
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 281d
Maybe start punching them in the teeth?
13igTyme@piefed.social · 4 pts · 281d
I remember the same. It was on a big name TV station, too.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 66 pts · 281d
Derpenheim@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 281d
I could go for a little Shakira law.
Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 281d
UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 280d
I can hear her Kermit voice looking at this
chetradley@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 280d
Thy hips shall not speak falsehoods.
thagoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 48 pts · 281d
I, for one, enjoy Roman numerals.
Derpenheim@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 281d
Oh yeah big guy? How many letters you need to write 3999?
ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 281d
Isn't it MMMIM? Only one extra character
Derpenheim@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 281d
subtraction rule only allows a smaller numeral to be placed before a larger one if it is one of the following combinations: IV, IX, XL, XC, CD, or CM. The numeral 'i' ((1)) can only be placed before a 'V' ((5)) or an 'X' ((10)).
luciferofastora@feddit.org · 14 pts · 281d
That rule wasn't always hard and fast, just as IV or XL were sometimes written as IIII or XXXX respectively. The XVIII Legion was occasionally termed XIIX, which should have been right out, but it worked well enough to inscribe in stone on a memorial and use on official calendars.
The fundamental requirement was that People would look at it and understand what it is saying. There was no "Office of Numeral Oversight" correcting people. The norms that we may learn about are descriptive of the majority, but not strictly prescriptive for all the cases.
If it follows the basic additive/subtractive pattern, it's good enough.
If you want to be a prick, write IMMMM
Whelks_chance@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 280d
Maybe the symmetry made people more likely to overlook the conventional way of writing things. Still no hard rule, but more leniency if it looks cool.
untorquer@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 280d
Rool of cool!
luciferofastora@feddit.org · 2 pts · 280d
That's not the correct spelling, but it's the cool one
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 281d
I came up with MMMCMXCIX, but your one seems better.
alsimoneau@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 281d
IX
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 281d
Many machines on IX, new machines.
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 280d
Excellent quote.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 281d
I love doing 3999+1 in Roman numerals in my head without converting first.
Lemminary@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 281d
That's easy: many.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 280d
pretty sure it's lots
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 281d
Get out.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 281d
one for one? what does that mean?
stray@pawb.social · 1 pts · 280d
It's a non-poly dating ad.
guy@piefed.social · 1 pts · 281d
groan
HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca · 45 pts · 281d
Oh Facebook must be lighting up with frothing boomers right now
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 281d
mostly AI content too.
PresidentCamacho@lemmy.ca · 33 pts · 280d
I hate that when i see memes like this all i can think is "its only a matter of time before stupid people share this with other stupid people unironically"
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 280d
It probably happened before you even saw the meme.
Fox News is gonna run a piece on how we must eliminate Arabic numerals from American society. Your family will be talking about this travesty at Thanksgiving.
Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 275d
Haha let’s count like Rome people CCEXIVII - ??? = !!!
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 280d
I shared it ironically with a group of people that won't understand it. I proceed to watch silently as they raise their cortisol levels.
Godric@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 281d
Roman! Cousin, let's go bowling!
MazonnaCara89@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 280d
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz · 3 pts · 281d
https://youtu.be/zxMLVlspD1Y
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 280d
literally in the middle of a fucking mission
Wilco@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 281d
I This is Roman discrimination II Half of MAGA doesnt know what an Arabic numeral is. III Reeeeeeeeeee IV Roman numerals are superior
blinfabian@feddit.nl · 12 pts · 280d
一二三四五六七八九十
i like these :)
WinGirl99@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 280d
ichi ni san yon go rokku nana hachi kyuu juu
blinfabian@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 280d
so close, its acutally "nya ichi ni san, nya arigatou"
WinGirl99@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 280d
I am sad that i was wrong with jaPenis here is an image about to represent how i feel
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 280d
One syllable per character. Coolest language ever. :D
(Also hardest characters to remember)
blinfabian@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 280d
一 is pronounced "i-chi"
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 280d
Oh lol, I automatically assumed Chinese because that is the language I know...
(But I mean... the Kanji is the same as the 漢字 (HanZi), its not always obvious which language is being referred to lol)
blinfabian@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 280d
ohhh in chinese yeah. yi ar san right? :3
aamram@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 281d
"Half" of MAGA? 😂
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 280d
It's more than half
snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 281d
A new Home maker class featuring falafel and hummus as side dishes is now mandatory to graduate High school.
PunnyName@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 281d
Fuck, I would have enjoyed that course.
GorGor@startrek.website · 5 pts · 281d
Homemade falafel and hummus is so much better than store bought and so easy. I just gotta perfect a pita recipe.
frunch@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 281d
I love falafel and hummus. I only found out a couple years ago but I've spent many a meal making up for lost time ♥️
BCsven@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 281d
Home made babaganoush is also amazing.
Slice a large eggplant in half, place face down in a glass baking pan. Add a few tablespoons oil, shake salt, pepper, paprika, garlic powder lightly on top. Cover with lid and bake at 375° for an hour. Till skin is shriveled and darker. You can also uncover near the end and roast it more if you like.
Let it cool. Take each half and scrape the loose insides into a food processor, it should just all slide off the skin. Add a few cloves of garlic, some lemon juice (maybe 3 tableapoons or adjust to your tastes), then toast a layer of sesame seeds in a smaller pan 6 or 9 inch sized with a bit of oil. Stir them often because they will burn if the heat gets to them too long. Add to the food processor and blend till garlic and seeds are chopped fine. Salt and pepper to taste.
frunch@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 280d
Whew, that sounds delicious!!! Def gotta try making some 😋
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 281d
these people are probably going to confuse hummus with humus.
notabot@piefed.social · 2 pts · 281d
That reminds me of the old joke:
Customer: This coffee tastes like mud!
Waiter: I'm sorry sir, it was ground this morning.
Masamune@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 281d
Gods forbid we teach kids useful life skills...
luciferofastora@feddit.org · 2 pts · 281d
I'm not a fan of hummus, but I'd be down for that class anyways. Teach kids some delicious food, particularly foreign in origin, to show them the rest of the world has nice things too!
Until they pull a Britain and invade countries for their food...
Narauko@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 280d
And still somehow miraculously forget they can actually use the spices they invaded for in the first place...
HowAbt2day@futurology.today · 1 pts · 281d
You mean Tent Makers? /s Not on my watch
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 281d
"Children will be thaught how to make shawarma at home."
Bababasti@feddit.org · 16 pts · 280d
I don’t know man, something about his damn smile is so funny to me. It’s so smug, he’s always smiling like he just absolutely knows he’s making some very rich assholes panic and I love everything about it.
whoisearth@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 280d
I highly doubt they're panicking. If they're even aware they're perturbed at best.
Bababasti@feddit.org · 5 pts · 280d
Fair, panicking was probably a bit of a stretch there. But I like how they at least burn a bunch of money on his political opponents
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 280d
I learned Arabic numerals in 1978 in preschool in Wyoming, and I never became a terrorist.
alltomorrowsregrets@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 280d
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 280d
This post came directly from Al Jazeer which references Al Gebra.
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 281d
According to a study, almost III out of V of those polled opposed this.
switcheroo@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 280d
Well to be fair, the republicunts would prefer kids not learn any numbers because only stupid people vote for Cons...
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 281d
::: spoiler Transcription A photo of Zohran Mamdani standing in front of an American flag. It is captioned:
prime_number_314159@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 281d
I support this wholeheartedly.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 280d
Funny that in Chinese, I literally have always known it as 阿拉伯數字 (Arabic Numerals).
I'm starting to realize more and more how much the Chinese Language is just simply better at teaching concepts.
Disclaimer, I am ethnic Chinese, but I'm totally not biased at all :D
Edit:
Also, while we're on the topic of Numerals, teach Chinese Numbers as well, its literally one syllable per character, much easier to pronounce and remember.
English has become my primary language, but I still often find myself counting in Chinese (Cantonese).
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 280d
They're definitely known as Arabic numerals elsewhere too. It's mentioned in Math class fairly early on when Roman numerals are also introduced. I'm sure that even in American schools, it's mentioned that they're called Arabic numerals.
Unless you mean that in Chinese there's just no word for "numbers" and you have to use the name of the specific system?
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 280d
I mean, I've personally never heard of the term "Arabic Numeral" being uttered in a classroom from 2nd grade all the way through Highschool in the US Schools I've went to. It's just "write the numbers in words" or in "numbers/digits".
Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 280d
Which is a sad indictment of the school system you attended.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 280d
Damn, maybe the US system is worse than I thought.
There are so many general knowledge things that aren't necessary for survival or to do your job that the general populace seems to lack. This is one of them
RagingRobot@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 280d
We call them Arabic numerals too but the street name is numbers. Very powerful concept
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 280d
I once said "Arabic Numerals" in class (US), and my classmates thought I was trying to be racist... like... bruh... that's literally what these nunbers are called...
So yeah... I never used that term once again.
Horsey@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 280d
Chinese/Japanese characters have kindof always led to good student outcomes in wrote memorization because of the necessity of pattern recognition. With an alphabet there’s simply less to learn, and you don’t have much context since etymology in alphabet based languages is so much more esoteric.
Also, Americans aren’t really taught much about technology from outside of the American sphere of influence. American schooling has a lot of dead zones.
P1k1e@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 280d
ITS AN OUTRAGE I TELL YOU! MATH IS AMERICAN! INVENTED IN AMERICA!
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 281d
Aryabhata and Brahmagupta approve.
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 280d
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 1 pts · 280d
Ahh yes. The good ol' 1 2 3s!
Aljernon@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 275d
It's an older trolling sir, but it checks out