I'm white as hell, but with the comments I make on the orange clown I'll be shot into orbit in nothing more than a speedo (only because nudity is for the us a no ! no !! no !!! no !!!! no !!!!! no way)
The new proposal would make it "mandatory" for ESTA applicants to provide US authorities with access to five years of their social media activity on platforms such as Instagram, TikTok and X.
Visitors will also be required to provide information on what US authorities dub "high-value data fields," meaning all of their phone numbers over the past five years and all of their e-mail addresses over the past 10. Moreover, they will be forced to provide personal details on family members as well as provide their own biometric data.
The proposal was published in the Federal Register on Tuesday, meaning that it will be open for public comment for 60 days, at which point it will become law unless challenged in court.
For real, there really is no way for them to know for sure.
Also, I just remembered Apple has throwaway emails built in now, nobody will think to list those. So do you just go to jail straight away if you miss listing one of those, because you lied on a federal form?
Nah I don't believe so, the vast majority of the people doesn't really care about privacy at all and they will gladly provide all the "required" information just to enter in the country. I guess they already know a lot of information about you (google account, biometric data in phones, GPS location, frecuent used apps...) and they just want you to provide even more information and tag you as an danger if you don't answer exactly what they know about you.
I was wondering why this ‘five years’ thing popped up now, because I'm pretty sure I've heard of it long ago.
The US was known for ages to be very shady at the borders, like circa fifteen years ago when they detained a security researcher who was travelling to a conference to tell about yet another of NSA's shenanigans: they held him for hours, searched through his devices, and in the end denied entry.
Been there twice, it was interesting and already shocking in 2008.
You US Americans should visit Europe or live there for a while. Then you can decide to come back or stay but you'll have at least a reference point in your brain that things can be different and maybe that the US isn't the greatest country in the world in all fields.
I dunno, and this sanity check is coming from someone who's visited over a dozen times and loves it there... EU is not all fun and games, they are going to enforce chat control, apparently bowing to pressure on GDPR, has enforced facial recognition to enter, and right wing parties are growing in multiple countries including the big economic houses: Germany, France, UK. We're all over here looking at you folks to show us the way and if you blink in your resolve, you're going to end up where we are.
On a positive note, Drumpf's policies are hitting a wall of awareness, resistance and resolve. Our recent elections are giving some hope. His pedophile protecting tight grip is loosening it's hold as his desperately unpopular and catastrophic policies are forcing "masks off" upping of their rhetoric and abusive policies. This shows their real racist nazi agenda to everyone and it's only dropping their approval. We're worried they will cook the books next November, but the hope is we can reign in the insanity and undo the damage in the coming decade. It's going to take that long and we will need to start with our dear friends in Canada).
The EU is now talking about doing what the US was already doing more than a decade ago when Snowden Revelations came out.
And don't get me started on things like the relative ratios of "death by police" and percentage of people in prision (to mention just the things related to the use of force in policing) between America and Europe.
The EU is at least a decade behind the US in creeping autoritarianism and a lot of that shit has been imported from the US (including the new style far right, which amongst other things was set-up with money from American billionaires which Steve Bannon brought to Europe years ago very openly to "create far right parties" and is ideologically fed by American money using social media which for example paid Cambridge Analitica to use Facebook to fuel Brexit).
In this turn of the Wheel of History, the equivalent of Nazism is spreading out from America.
I agree with you. I'm not saying the EU isn't doing better on substantially every level like education, social services, policing, well being, worker rights, etc. I'm saying the EU is at risk and it's it goes beyond just the US and global tech corpratism to authoritarian & oligaritarian influence of (soft and hard) compaigns to shift the EU far right. I am saying I hope the EU can hold on to what they have and push back further!
On a side note, the Nazi's borrowed a lot of their eugenics from the US and our deeply ingrained racism, so I'm not 100% sure this is new
I'll continue to equate the right wing with far right extremism until they give me evidence to conclude otherwise. You can call that a code for "out of power" if that's your way of thinking, but it's not mine and I certainly didn't use it that way. I believe it's the reality of the ratcheting overton window for 50 years.
I would agree that far right extremism qualifies as right wing. Trouble is, in Germany the AfD has identical positions as CDU/CSU as of decade or two ago, and both would be considered to be left wing in the US political context. A very left party like BSW was attempted to be smeared to be right wing.
Such labels assigned by the mainstream media have become meaningless, so I would encourage you to look at party programs and their voting patterns in parliaments to gauge where they really stand. I will avoid mentioning the general regression to pre-party times to avoid further confusion.
OK, I'm going to challenge the statement that AfD would be considered left in the US. I'm from the US and I've seen their politics and they would defnitely be considered far right in the US sense (or our current "right" which is MAGA in power). I appreciate your point about media labels, though, so everyone should apply critical thinking to those labels for sure.
Personally I've been boycotting travel to the US or even just with a transfer in the US since the PATRIOT act.
Already over a decade ago I very purposefully chose Canada (highly recommended, by the way) for a month vacationing in North America rather than the US.
The writting has been on the wall for this shit ever since they allowed the TSA to start confiscating traveller's mobile phones and computers way back in Bush's day - the main difference with the current administration compared to the previous ones is that they're open about what they're looking for.
Which strangely enough sounds exactly like what a conservative stance actually is. The "conservatives" are the extremists now and them dems are spineless snails.*
I still remember a trip I took with my parents to Vancouver and Seattle. We are from Brazil.
The difference was night and day, especially the infrastructure, landscape, and the appearance of the people who worked there. Seattle felt much more somber and gray.
The only ones who seemed overtly happy were the waitresses, but since these jobs in the U.S. rely heavily on tips, it felt more like forced role-play to get extra money compared to the more down-to-earth Canadian customer service.
Only ignorant people. I had dreams of visiting and maybe doing a road trip, but under Trump I'm definitely not going there voluntarily. Even if my employer wants me to go there on business I'm refusing. I'd rather find another job than cross the US border.
Well I used to go to Vegas quite often for conferences and now that's stopped because apparently no one else wants to go either. I think they are having it in Leeds this year, which is quite the downgrade let me tell you.
Always wanted to see a modern country becoming dystopian though. Could be a big hit on tripadvisor. Once a beacon for freedom in the western world, the US decided it really liked how North Korea is treating its people and decided to do the same using its love affair with big tech psychos like Sam Altman and Elon Musk.
"Enjoy the once in century experience of empire collapse from the first row, go sightseeing to 'once grand but now little more than decrepit and fast fading façades' and return home with a warm 'at least it's not us' feeling (return trip might be from El Salvador) unlike the poor sods who live in the place"
Depends on the officer you're dealing with. There's multiple stories, from before Trump ever took office, of people being detained for up to a day for saying this or refusing to grant access to their phone. I can only imagine it's worse now.
You have to prove that you don't have accounts with the usual suspects. So, to prove a negative.
And that obviously makes you suspicious.
Oh, and Lemmy would be considered to be social media.
Visitors will also be required to provide information on what US authorities dub “high-value data fields,” meaning all of their phone numbers over the past five years and all of their e-mail addresses over the past 10. Moreover, they will be forced to provide personal details on family members as well as provide their own biometric data.
That's an entry ban for many people here. I do not know in which forums I posted some questions back in Dec 2020. I totally do not know the numbers of those prepaid sims I used while traveling 2016 till 2019. I used their mobile data and they have been in the trash for a decade. I also do not not every trash mail, mail redirect and mail service I have used since 2015. That must be hundreds of adresses.
it's so tiring to watch people just not realize the natural progression to all of this, like how can you not see it's gonna be YOU next in a few years when you post on facebook about how you're disappointed about supreme leader trump's tax policy and the secret police show up at your door
My neighbors heads are firmly wedged all the way up their asses. These old fools act like everything is just fine because the boots aren't on their necks yet.
they are kept complacent, because they still have a job that pays moderate or well off where they live off of, plus the propaganda of the media keeping them mostly ignorant.
Trying to isolate the country from what used to be our allies, then take away all our rights and turn this degrading shithole into North Korea where the citizens are law bound to kiss their "leaders" ass and pretend it doesn't fucking stink.
Whether or not the states are being puppeted by Russia holding cards in the form of blackmail, this is exactly the kind of thing they would do to weaken the states
It's amazing how much the US doesn't want you to go there, even if it's just to visit.
Despite all the mediocrity, there are some things to see there, but if that's the authorities' attitude (and this here is not the first example of it), yeah, I think I'll skip.
Haha this was me, except even around age 20, when I moved to the UK, I was thinking I might want to move to the USA later in life. But the more I've learned about the country since, the less I'd want to live there. The gun mania, the religion mania, the actual political options being all squeezed into the centre-to-far-right spectrum all sound nightmarish. (Tbh we're kinda having that last issue in the UK too, but to a less extreme degree.)
That's me. Wanted to move there because software engineer. Now I'm 30 and fuck no. Major changes would need to happen and even then I'm not sure I'd feel safe. It's not the damn shootings that bother me even, it's that so many people support Trump and ICE. Those people will still be around even when Trump is gone. Meaning at any time the US could elect a less incompetent version of Trump.
Ok, idea, The rest of the world demands access to 5 years of US citizens social media to enter their countries. Deny Nazi/Fash/Maga from leaving the US.
I feel deeply sorry for the poor EU agent who has to sift through the depravity that likely exists on your average MAGA twat's phone. You hear about those police staff members who have to view all the CSAM to investigate it and how it traumatises them, this would be the next tier down
They get angry if someone else is having buttsex witin the privacy of their own house and are of the same gender.
They get angry if someone else has any autonomy over their own body.
They get angry if someone with slightly different color skin or speaks slightly differently is pulling a paycheck doing a job they wouldn’t do and looking after their own family. Basically existing.
You say that as if republicans have suddenly developed a critical thinking ability and wouldn’t simply give into ego to be angry at the principle.
you know its bad when they dont report how tourism is doing in places like florida, texas. its 1-2 punch , anti-immigration policies has probably affected them severely, and the lack of tourism dollars to those welfare states.
Sounds like taliban/fascist strategy: keep people apart and make everyone hate you so you can then claim you're embattled because everyone rejects you.
And then they deny you access for being a freak. You still dont win and are out the money for your tickets and have to buy return trip off date at your expense. Or get shipped to gitmo.
EU passports and ID already have the fingerprint stored digitally on them. If a EU nation wants to they can just get the fingerprint of every EU citizen that enters their country by air. Technically illegal but who’s gonna stop them.
Don't worry about it! The Democrats will oppose this and get it kicked out for being un American. And if they don't succeed then all you have to do is wait until they get back into office and they'll executive order it straight outta town in an instant.....
This is why America sucks lol Republicans do horrendous shit and still people somehow blame the one party that can oppose that shit because of a scenario they made up in their heads.
How... how much gun violence do you think actually happens here?
There's a lot by number, and that's a serious fucking issue, but the US is also massive. It's not a regular or frequent danger of normal life here.
Even those numbers are pumped up by the fact that suicide by gun is counted in the exact same "gun violence" statistics as gang violence, and the "school shootings" statistics include all from the "gun violence" stats that occur within a certain radius around, regardless of when it happened (summer break, middle of the night, etc) or if it was any danger to students.
News overfocuses on shit like that because it pulls eyes and clicks, and therefore ad revenue.
Again, it is a serious fucking problem, but it's not the kind of thing you're going to experience in daily life or as a tourist.
Mass shootings are still proportionally a lot more common than in similar countries:
There were 109 public mass shootings in the United States and 35 public mass shootings in 35 other economically and politically comparative countries between 2000 and 2022. The United States makes up 33 percent of the combined population of these 36 countries; however, it also accounts for 76 percent of public mass shooting incidents and 70 percent of victim fatalities in these countries. (source)
The USA has about 5 times the general (non-suicide) homicide rate compared to the UK.
Add to that the 20 times higher gun ownership rate between USA and Scotland, plus the mental health crisis and extreme political polarisation, and I would rather just not be there, you know 🤷
Perfectly valid, and thanks for not just jumping on the US bad dogpile and instead citing some stuff.
I'm just speaking up because I've seen a lot of people online from outside the US running with this idea that gun violence is like, a daily occurence that every US citizen deals with regularly, when that's so fucking far from the reality.
Yeah, things are a powder keg over here lately and the accessibility of firearms doesn't help, but I've met only one person in my almost 35 years of life who's ever been held at gunpoint and they're the only person I know who has ever been through any form of gun violence.
There's plenty of reasons to avoid this place for a good long while unfortunately, but I feel like the gun danger has been overblown.
I have and do, likely more than you. Thanks for patronizing!
That doesn't change my point, that the danger of gun violence is a problem, but is considerably made out to be worse than the reality by the media.
Like, we have states larger than some European countries. If you took the reporting on all the bad shit happening over the equivalent space/population amount in Europe it would be pretty fucking harrowing as well.
I've known multiple people fall into a life of constant anxiety due to overexposing themselves to the media. Convinced that every city was a fucking gun violence warzone. That horrible things were happening all the time. They didn't know anyone who knew anyone who had experienced the things they were convinced were regular horrible occurences. And they knew more than one person (mutual friends) that worked and lived in the US city with the highest homicide rate at the time. None of those people had been even in the vicinity of gun violence.
I've been around for nearly 35 years, and I enjoy talking with people. I've met only one single person who had been a victim of gun violence, in that they were robbed at gunpoint while working nights at a gas station in a rough area.
There are fucking studies about this shit that are over 15 years old that show that exposure to news media back then caused people to ridiculously overestimate the frequency of crime (and especially violent crime). News has only become more emotionally charged since.
I'm not saying America is some amazing place. I'm just saying that the news would have you believe that almost everyone here has had a gun violence experience, or that visitng the US is unsafe because of gun violence, when that's not the case.
So, why then are the statistics of dead, murdered school children so much higher than anywhere else in the world? I just googled, and there are 4300 child gun deaths in US every year, about 3600 in school shootings. That's an apalling number, and the fact you guys don't try to restrict guns, is even more apalling imo.
For general gun deaths......"The U.S. has significantly higher gun death rates than most other developed nations, ranking as an outlier among high-income countries, though lower than some Latin American nations. While the U.S. rate is substantially higher than places like Canada, Australia, and European countries, it's lower than countries with extreme violence like El Salvador or Venezuela, but its overall firearm mortality is in the top percentiles globally. " USA has third world statistics, and while 3rd world countries do have a lot of gun violence, they have almost zero school shootings......
I'm not trying to be patronising, but it sounds as if you have a somewhat sheltered existence.
To the rest of the normal and decent world, guns are restricted to those who have a need, and are demonstrably sane. USA is open slather, with no public psych care available, and you guys think this is normal. YOU are the outliers, and your cowardly politicians are owned by the gun lobby, so it perpetuates.
Sane people see how fucking stupid this is, even as you deflect the problem to the media, and try to minimize it. The statistics say that you are wrong, and your children are paying for it.
I don't know what to tell you beyond what I've already said.
I'm not denying that it's a serious goddamn problem. I have acknowledged that in every single comment I've made about this. Please stop insisting that I'm saying otherwise.
Once again, I am only saying that despite the high numbers, it is not just some ever present part of life over here to the degree that every American, or even a majority, has experienced gun violence. Everyone from the outside seems to think that's true, but it's insanely, laughably not. The quite overwhelming majority of Americans have not experienced gun violence, and won't within their lifetime.
Our population number is roughly equivalent to 3/4 of the entire European Union's combined population. Any of our numbers relating to people are going to look high unless you bear that in mind.
So fucking annoying of articles to be like "this was published on Tuesday by the federal register and is open for comments" only to not provide a link.
Murica, home of hatred and fear.
and home of the spoiled.
and the greedy.
and the devious.
and the self endulged.
and the (fill in your favourite bad quality here, it 'll fit)
To be fair, the farmer bailout is a drop in the bucket of what they're down over lost sales to China and higher fertilizer prices. Like, have the day you voted for and all that, but 12B is 1% of this years military budget.
An online message board is a type of social media yes.
The Wikipedia definition seems solid:
"Social media are new media technologies that facilitate the creation, sharing and aggregation of content (such as ideas, interests, and other forms of expression) amongst virtual communities and networks."
Thanks for sharing.
I still question it though due to it wasn’t called that before till MySpace became so big and popular. Message boards been around since the 90s, some would say late 80s depending on your perspective.
Or is a message board one community with multiple topics?
Shouldn't be hard for anyone from Europe. The EU already wants to monitor all the social media anyway. Plus age restrictions. The Aussie's aren't far behind either. And they have age restrictions now.
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mereo@piefed.ca · 181 pts · 246d
As a Canadian, I won't be travelling to the Republic of Gilead anytime soon. That country is becoming worse by the minute.
And since Americans think I'm Latino (I'm not), I don't want to be shipped to El Salvador.
redlemace@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 246d
I'm white as hell, but with the comments I make on the orange clown I'll be shot into orbit in nothing more than a speedo (only because nudity is for the us a no ! no !! no !!! no !!!! no !!!!! no way)
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · -36 pts · 246d
I'm thinking of visiting Montreal for beer. Crossing North from Vermont.. y'all gonna kick my ass before I can spend that glorious USD $$ ?
Rothe@piefed.social · 25 pts · 246d
You seem to confuse Canadians for Americans.
Seleni@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 246d
As a fellow American, we really don’t need any help looking bad at the moment, so you can stop now.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 151 pts · 246d
Uhhhh, it's more than their social media.
rehydrate5503@lemmy.world · 59 pts · 246d
Checks SimpleLogin account… 230 email aliases to date… gg, I might need a few more pages to note all of those.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 44 pts · 246d
Plus, how tf are they going to know if you're telling them about everything? This will just make people not visit.
rehydrate5503@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 246d
For real, there really is no way for them to know for sure.
Also, I just remembered Apple has throwaway emails built in now, nobody will think to list those. So do you just go to jail straight away if you miss listing one of those, because you lied on a federal form?
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 40 pts · 246d
Unfortunately, that probably depends on what color you are. They have taken a few whities, but that was probably just for show.
Our country isn't really safe to visit right now, please come back if/when we're better. Most Americans are sorry about this.
rehydrate5503@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 246d
Really hope for a positive outcome. I would love to go visit my happy place on the Oregon coast again some day!
Xirup@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 246d
Nah I don't believe so, the vast majority of the people doesn't really care about privacy at all and they will gladly provide all the "required" information just to enter in the country. I guess they already know a lot of information about you (google account, biometric data in phones, GPS location, frecuent used apps...) and they just want you to provide even more information and tag you as an danger if you don't answer exactly what they know about you.
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 246d
That looks suspicious and a lot of work, let's just send you to and ICE detention facility until we decide what to do with you.
rehydrate5503@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 246d
Can’t argue with that logic. I’ll report to my nearest border crossing if/when this passes to make things easier for everyone.
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 246d
The Fourth Reich thanks you for your understanding!
eleitl@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 245d
The EU is already using that. Pick some other Reich that is still free.
echodot@feddit.uk · 38 pts · 246d
What if you're not a 15-year-old girl and therefore don't have TikTok and Instagram are they going to arrest you? What a truly stupid country.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 246d
I was wondering why this ‘five years’ thing popped up now, because I'm pretty sure I've heard of it long ago.
The US was known for ages to be very shady at the borders, like circa fifteen years ago when they detained a security researcher who was travelling to a conference to tell about yet another of NSA's shenanigans: they held him for hours, searched through his devices, and in the end denied entry.
Lazylazycat@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 246d
Emails? Wtf?
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 246d
I think that's objectively worse than North Korea, they only check what you have with you as far as I'm aware
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 246d
This is a shame honestly. I've just remembered about Lucas' narrative art museum.
affenlehrer@feddit.org · 112 pts · 246d
Been there twice, it was interesting and already shocking in 2008.
You US Americans should visit Europe or live there for a while. Then you can decide to come back or stay but you'll have at least a reference point in your brain that things can be different and maybe that the US isn't the greatest country in the world in all fields.
thefluffiest@feddit.nl · 46 pts · 246d
The US is a third-world country that failed upwards
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 46 pts · 246d
My favourite description: "US is 50 third world countries in a trench coat".
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus · 6 pts · 246d
...wearing a gucci belt
redlemace@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 246d
.... bought on credit
Aganim@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 245d
.... after paying off the initial credit by taking a new loan
massacre@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 246d
I dunno, and this sanity check is coming from someone who's visited over a dozen times and loves it there... EU is not all fun and games, they are going to enforce chat control, apparently bowing to pressure on GDPR, has enforced facial recognition to enter, and right wing parties are growing in multiple countries including the big economic houses: Germany, France, UK. We're all over here looking at you folks to show us the way and if you blink in your resolve, you're going to end up where we are.
On a positive note, Drumpf's policies are hitting a wall of awareness, resistance and resolve. Our recent elections are giving some hope. His pedophile protecting tight grip is loosening it's hold as his desperately unpopular and catastrophic policies are forcing "masks off" upping of their rhetoric and abusive policies. This shows their real racist nazi agenda to everyone and it's only dropping their approval. We're worried they will cook the books next November, but the hope is we can reign in the insanity and undo the damage in the coming decade. It's going to take that long and we will need to start with our dear friends in Canada).
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 246d
The EU is now talking about doing what the US was already doing more than a decade ago when Snowden Revelations came out.
And don't get me started on things like the relative ratios of "death by police" and percentage of people in prision (to mention just the things related to the use of force in policing) between America and Europe.
The EU is at least a decade behind the US in creeping autoritarianism and a lot of that shit has been imported from the US (including the new style far right, which amongst other things was set-up with money from American billionaires which Steve Bannon brought to Europe years ago very openly to "create far right parties" and is ideologically fed by American money using social media which for example paid Cambridge Analitica to use Facebook to fuel Brexit).
In this turn of the Wheel of History, the equivalent of Nazism is spreading out from America.
massacre@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 245d
I agree with you. I'm not saying the EU isn't doing better on substantially every level like education, social services, policing, well being, worker rights, etc. I'm saying the EU is at risk and it's it goes beyond just the US and global tech corpratism to authoritarian & oligaritarian influence of (soft and hard) compaigns to shift the EU far right. I am saying I hope the EU can hold on to what they have and push back further!
On a side note, the Nazi's borrowed a lot of their eugenics from the US and our deeply ingrained racism, so I'm not 100% sure this is new
eleitl@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 245d
Right-wing is code for not being part of the ruling party block.
massacre@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 245d
I'll continue to equate the right wing with far right extremism until they give me evidence to conclude otherwise. You can call that a code for "out of power" if that's your way of thinking, but it's not mine and I certainly didn't use it that way. I believe it's the reality of the ratcheting overton window for 50 years.
eleitl@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 244d
I would agree that far right extremism qualifies as right wing. Trouble is, in Germany the AfD has identical positions as CDU/CSU as of decade or two ago, and both would be considered to be left wing in the US political context. A very left party like BSW was attempted to be smeared to be right wing.
Such labels assigned by the mainstream media have become meaningless, so I would encourage you to look at party programs and their voting patterns in parliaments to gauge where they really stand. I will avoid mentioning the general regression to pre-party times to avoid further confusion.
massacre@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 243d
OK, I'm going to challenge the statement that AfD would be considered left in the US. I'm from the US and I've seen their politics and they would defnitely be considered far right in the US sense (or our current "right" which is MAGA in power). I appreciate your point about media labels, though, so everyone should apply critical thinking to those labels for sure.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 246d
Personally I've been boycotting travel to the US or even just with a transfer in the US since the PATRIOT act.
Already over a decade ago I very purposefully chose Canada (highly recommended, by the way) for a month vacationing in North America rather than the US.
The writting has been on the wall for this shit ever since they allowed the TSA to start confiscating traveller's mobile phones and computers way back in Bush's day - the main difference with the current administration compared to the previous ones is that they're open about what they're looking for.
mannycalavera@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 246d
I think that's why they want our "high value data fields".... ☺️
dukemirage@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 246d
Is this European exceptionalism?
affenlehrer@feddit.org · 5 pts · 246d
No, I guess Canada and possibly many other countries are similar but I didn't experience them yet.
eleitl@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 245d
The EU is fast-tracking the Fourth Reich, so visit it while there's still time.
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 88 pts · 246d
Oh, man. Anyone else remember how Republicans used to threaten to exercise their 2A rights in response to filling out a basic census report?
Yeah. I miss the days when those folks were considered the standard for "Conservative values". They were practically antifa back then.
fonix232@fedia.io · 48 pts · 246d
Turns out the guns were never about defending themselves against an authoritarian government.
tty5@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 246d
Nothing makes them talk about gun control faster than minorities arming.
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 246d
Current contents of the shell don't say much about past contents of it.
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 246d
shalafi@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 246d
Mine are. ICE just isn't in my area yet.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 84 pts · 246d
If the Dems aren't running on abolishing ICE and completely dismantling the police state, now, they're setting up to throw the 2028 election.
h54@programming.dev · 85 pts · 246d
I hate to say it but they likely won't. Establishment democrats are complicit.
Sunshine@piefed.ca · 24 pts · 246d
AOC is gonna need a big mop.
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 246d
So are their voters.
you_are_dust@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 246d
Doubtful. The Democrats we have run on the platform of keep everything exactly the same. No changes, we're all good here. No notes.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 246d
Which strangely enough sounds exactly like what a conservative stance actually is. The "conservatives" are the extremists now and them dems are spineless snails.*
FaceDeer@fedia.io · 9 pts · 246d
Non-spineless snails exist, checkmate.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 246d
I don't know what I was expecting but it wasn't that. Kinda disappointed it wasn't a Rick Roll.
someguy3@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 246d
It'll be "it's the economy stupid".
fossilesque@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 246d
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 246d
They're gonna Ratchet Effect the shit out this!
TimboSlice@discuss.online · 82 pts · 246d
Do not visit the US
desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 23 pts · 246d
literally, I let my VISA expire and it was hard because I live on the frontier so I'll miss out on a lot of things but it is not worth it
last time I needed to cross the border I was detained for an extra hour (not counting the queue) just because I didn't cross during the pandemic
fuck the US, fuck fascism
berrodeguarana@lemmy.eco.br · 11 pts · 246d
I still remember a trip I took with my parents to Vancouver and Seattle. We are from Brazil.
The difference was night and day, especially the infrastructure, landscape, and the appearance of the people who worked there. Seattle felt much more somber and gray.
The only ones who seemed overtly happy were the waitresses, but since these jobs in the U.S. rely heavily on tips, it felt more like forced role-play to get extra money compared to the more down-to-earth Canadian customer service.
echodot@feddit.uk · 52 pts · 246d
So does the US just want to totally kill its tourist industry because that seems to be the objective.
GobberingGoblin@reddthat.com · 25 pts · 246d
Unfortunatel I feel like most people will complain about this and visit anyway. I'd be very happy to be wrong about this though.
tias@discuss.tchncs.de · 27 pts · 246d
Only ignorant people. I had dreams of visiting and maybe doing a road trip, but under Trump I'm definitely not going there voluntarily. Even if my employer wants me to go there on business I'm refusing. I'd rather find another job than cross the US border.
ours@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 246d
I've recently had a workshop with teams coming from different parts of Europe and North America.
The USA was an option as a location. Needless to say, I wasn't hot about it, and probably many others as well, so Eastern Europe was chosen instead.
end_stage_ligma@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 246d
oof
SaneMartigan@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 246d
I really wanted to cycle across America. The states are so close and different compared to Australia. I doubt I'll get the chance now.
echodot@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 245d
Well I used to go to Vegas quite often for conferences and now that's stopped because apparently no one else wants to go either. I think they are having it in Leeds this year, which is quite the downgrade let me tell you.
Better food though.
Lazylazycat@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 246d
I think maybe they're intentionally isolating themselves?
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 45 pts · 246d
Well, that's definitelly going to solve the fall in Tourism problem in the US /s
1984@lemmy.today · 17 pts · 246d
Always wanted to see a modern country becoming dystopian though. Could be a big hit on tripadvisor. Once a beacon for freedom in the western world, the US decided it really liked how North Korea is treating its people and decided to do the same using its love affair with big tech psychos like Sam Altman and Elon Musk.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 246d
"Enjoy the once in century experience of empire collapse from the first row, go sightseeing to 'once grand but now little more than decrepit and fast fading façades' and return home with a warm 'at least it's not us' feeling (return trip might be from El Salvador) unlike the poor sods who live in the place"
1984@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 246d
Lol we have a winner here :)
eleitl@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 245d
Russians are visiting China visa free and vacation in North Korea no problem. So, this is worse.
Zomg@piefed.world · 44 pts · 246d
So what happens when you truthfully state "I don't use social media"? Or use any that are mainstream?
Seems like a dumb time to me.
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 19 pts · 246d
Depends on the officer you're dealing with. There's multiple stories, from before Trump ever took office, of people being detained for up to a day for saying this or refusing to grant access to their phone. I can only imagine it's worse now.
eleitl@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 245d
You have to prove that you don't have accounts with the usual suspects. So, to prove a negative. And that obviously makes you suspicious. Oh, and Lemmy would be considered to be social media.
JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org · 43 pts · 246d
That's an entry ban for many people here. I do not know in which forums I posted some questions back in Dec 2020. I totally do not know the numbers of those prepaid sims I used while traveling 2016 till 2019. I used their mobile data and they have been in the trash for a decade. I also do not not every trash mail, mail redirect and mail service I have used since 2015. That must be hundreds of adresses.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 246d
Your point stands, but 2019 was more than five years ago
falseWhite@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 246d
candyman337@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 246d
it's so tiring to watch people just not realize the natural progression to all of this, like how can you not see it's gonna be YOU next in a few years when you post on facebook about how you're disappointed about supreme leader trump's tax policy and the secret police show up at your door
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 246d
Americans are incapable of thinking that far ahead. They will literally scoff at any foresight, like the future is unknowable.
candyman337@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 246d
I'm an American but alright
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 246d
Me too 😭
Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 246d
My neighbors heads are firmly wedged all the way up their asses. These old fools act like everything is just fine because the boots aren't on their necks yet.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 245d
they are kept complacent, because they still have a job that pays moderate or well off where they live off of, plus the propaganda of the media keeping them mostly ignorant.
switcheroo@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 246d
Trying to isolate the country from what used to be our allies, then take away all our rights and turn this degrading shithole into North Korea where the citizens are law bound to kiss their "leaders" ass and pretend it doesn't fucking stink.
Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 245d
Whether or not the states are being puppeted by Russia holding cards in the form of blackmail, this is exactly the kind of thing they would do to weaken the states
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 245d
its is the foundation of geopolitics that russia uses.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 245d
krasnov is adhering to PUTINS wishes.
kamen@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 246d
It's amazing how much the US doesn't want you to go there, even if it's just to visit.
Despite all the mediocrity, there are some things to see there, but if that's the authorities' attitude (and this here is not the first example of it), yeah, I think I'll skip.
IronBird@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 246d
they really don't seem to realize there's an entire world of places out there to see...
hammertime@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 245d
It’s also to keep people in.
Rhoeri@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 245d
People, PLEASE stop coming to America. The government doesn’t want you here. Also, it’s not safe at all.
Prior_Industry@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 245d
If the earning reports of hotel REITs are anything to go by that is exactly what's happening.
Make Murica Great Again or something....
NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk · 35 pts · 246d
Lol, what tourists
imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 22 pts · 246d
People born in the 90s:
At age 10: I want to move to USA to live there!
At age 30: Traveling to USA seems to be too dangerous. I'll pass.
kazerniel@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 246d
Haha this was me, except even around age 20, when I moved to the UK, I was thinking I might want to move to the USA later in life. But the more I've learned about the country since, the less I'd want to live there. The gun mania, the religion mania, the actual political options being all squeezed into the centre-to-far-right spectrum all sound nightmarish. (Tbh we're kinda having that last issue in the UK too, but to a less extreme degree.)
Mrkawfee@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 246d
Don't forget no minimum paid leave, no parental leave, crazy healthcare.
kazerniel@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 246d
True! How could I have forgotten!
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 246d
That's me. Wanted to move there because software engineer. Now I'm 30 and fuck no. Major changes would need to happen and even then I'm not sure I'd feel safe. It's not the damn shootings that bother me even, it's that so many people support Trump and ICE. Those people will still be around even when Trump is gone. Meaning at any time the US could elect a less incompetent version of Trump.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 33 pts · 246d
Fascism.
lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 246d
With race-based xenophobia.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 32 pts · 245d
Ok, idea, The rest of the world demands access to 5 years of US citizens social media to enter their countries. Deny Nazi/Fash/Maga from leaving the US.
baconsunday@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 245d
Most maga can't afford to leave the country much less their own state.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 245d
while true, there are a boat load of wealthy republicans that would NOT pass a social media check
baconsunday@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 244d
Indubitably.
I finally got to use that word, thank you good sir.
zen@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 245d
Nah fuck that. The non-Nazis can come over, and we'll have a barbie 🇺🇸🇦🇺🦐🍻
girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 245d
Good idea. Let's just do what the fascists are doing. That'll show them!
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 245d
For the rest of the world it's a smart idea, who would want self proclaimed domestic terrorists into their country?
Piece_Maker@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 244d
I feel deeply sorry for the poor EU agent who has to sift through the depravity that likely exists on your average MAGA twat's phone. You hear about those police staff members who have to view all the CSAM to investigate it and how it traumatises them, this would be the next tier down
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 243d
It's probably just as bad because we see more Republicans get outed as kid diddlers than anyone else.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 245d
I mean, we've tried not reciprocating.
They literally don't get anything until it's happening to them, and the US left NEVER makees it happen to them.
Trashcan@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 245d
A lot of Americans on the right famiously doesnt own a passport and doesn't leave the country. You are more or less playing into their hand..
rumba@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 245d
I'm more worried about the politicians :)
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 245d
But why would you leave the Greatest Country on Earth™?
Smoogs@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 243d
They get angry if someone else is having buttsex witin the privacy of their own house and are of the same gender.
They get angry if someone else has any autonomy over their own body.
They get angry if someone with slightly different color skin or speaks slightly differently is pulling a paycheck doing a job they wouldn’t do and looking after their own family. Basically existing.
You say that as if republicans have suddenly developed a critical thinking ability and wouldn’t simply give into ego to be angry at the principle.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 30 pts · 246d
yeah, because tourism is doing so well now, we need more reasons to fuck over the industry
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 245d
you know its bad when they dont report how tourism is doing in places like florida, texas. its 1-2 punch , anti-immigration policies has probably affected them severely, and the lack of tourism dollars to those welfare states.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 245d
No idea about Texas. Other than SXSW, I'm not aware of their tourism.
But for FL, Disney didn't bend the knee hard enough. That's a feature.
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 246d
I am surprised the tourism industry is taking this so well. I mean Trump and company are literally doing anything they can to kill it off.
Gsus4@mander.xyz · 12 pts · 246d
Sounds like taliban/fascist strategy: keep people apart and make everyone hate you so you can then claim you're embattled because everyone rejects you.
Evotech@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 246d
They are learning from the Saudis and UAE
GrammarPolice@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 246d
World cup season
NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 245d
it comes with the territory. Working in U.S. tourism occaisionally means eating an inordinate amount of shit.
ViscloReader@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 246d
One of my relative was stuck in us borders because he didn't have social media pages to his name so they thought he was a terrorist.
This was in 2021 I believe.
This made me scared to go even before the orange man came back.
fne8w2ah@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 246d
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 246d
If this shit passes, the EU should apply the same rule and when we find a fucking MAGAt, stamp "Entry Denied and Fuck Off!"
borQue@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 245d
nah, that's what that negativity wants. making that oil slick bigger.
count_dongulus@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 246d
"I don't use social media, and I don't have an email."
sunbeam60@feddit.uk · 8 pts · 246d
Well you can of course do that. Then if it discovered that you’ve lied on an entry form, you’ll be denied entry forever.
ours@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 246d
Or malicious compliance: only share porn accounts... with a wink.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 246d
Social media accounts. Shares 16 different fetlife accounts.
Master@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 246d
And then they deny you access for being a freak. You still dont win and are out the money for your tickets and have to buy return trip off date at your expense. Or get shipped to gitmo.
dukemirage@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 246d
What’s Lemmy?
techt@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 246d
News feed with a comment section
dukemirage@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 246d
It’s a social medium. It’s not the idea of it that’s shitty, it’s the prevalent platforms.
harmbugler@piefed.social · 22 pts · 246d
I decided to never return to the US after they brought in mandatory fingerprinting. It's progressed so much further now. Land of the free*
Embargo@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 246d
Land of the free was written before slavery was abolished. It's never been a free country.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 246d
What country doesn't do fingerprinting? The entire world seems about the same in terms of surveillance.
harmbugler@piefed.social · 6 pts · 246d
Oh dear, things have worsened since I last looked, including 29 EU states just late this year.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 246d
EU passports and ID already have the fingerprint stored digitally on them. If a EU nation wants to they can just get the fingerprint of every EU citizen that enters their country by air. Technically illegal but who’s gonna stop them.
kungen@feddit.nu · 2 pts · 246d
In late 2026 we're going to have ETIAS as well, becoming more and more like USA.
mannycalavera@feddit.uk · 21 pts · 246d
Don't worry about it! The Democrats will oppose this and get it kicked out for being un American. And if they don't succeed then all you have to do is wait until they get back into office and they'll executive order it straight outta town in an instant.....
Right?
Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 246d
This is why America sucks lol Republicans do horrendous shit and still people somehow blame the one party that can oppose that shit because of a scenario they made up in their heads.
krooklochurm@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 246d
The only party that can oppose anything effectively is a third party.
mannycalavera@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 246d
Well we look forward to the democrats being an effective opposition. Oh wait.... 🫠
elucubra@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 246d
Riiiiight???
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 20 pts · 246d
So much freedom of speech
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 246d
kazerniel@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 246d
reason #2 why I would never visit that country
(#1 is the mass shootings and gun mania)
(tbh the only thing I'd want to visit to begin with are the giant sequoia in California)
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -5 pts · 246d
How... how much gun violence do you think actually happens here?
There's a lot by number, and that's a serious fucking issue, but the US is also massive. It's not a regular or frequent danger of normal life here.
Even those numbers are pumped up by the fact that suicide by gun is counted in the exact same "gun violence" statistics as gang violence, and the "school shootings" statistics include all from the "gun violence" stats that occur within a certain radius around, regardless of when it happened (summer break, middle of the night, etc) or if it was any danger to students.
News overfocuses on shit like that because it pulls eyes and clicks, and therefore ad revenue.
Again, it is a serious fucking problem, but it's not the kind of thing you're going to experience in daily life or as a tourist.
kazerniel@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 246d
Mass shootings are still proportionally a lot more common than in similar countries:
The USA has about 5 times the general (non-suicide) homicide rate compared to the UK.
Add to that the 20 times higher gun ownership rate between USA and Scotland, plus the mental health crisis and extreme political polarisation, and I would rather just not be there, you know 🤷
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 246d
Perfectly valid, and thanks for not just jumping on the US bad dogpile and instead citing some stuff.
I'm just speaking up because I've seen a lot of people online from outside the US running with this idea that gun violence is like, a daily occurence that every US citizen deals with regularly, when that's so fucking far from the reality.
Yeah, things are a powder keg over here lately and the accessibility of firearms doesn't help, but I've met only one person in my almost 35 years of life who's ever been held at gunpoint and they're the only person I know who has ever been through any form of gun violence.
There's plenty of reasons to avoid this place for a good long while unfortunately, but I feel like the gun danger has been overblown.
kazerniel@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 245d
Thanks for sharing your experiences, it's definitely good to hear daily life is not as scary as it may seem from news coverage.
Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 246d
Relax there's plenty of other reasons to not visit your shithole country
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 246d
Yeah, hence why I didn't say anything to counter anything else, or that it was a good place to visit anytime soon.
Got any other mindblowing facts for us?
Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 246d
https://facts.net/fun-facts/
drhodl@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 246d
You should travel. It will open your eyes to the shit going on in America that apparently you Americans think is "normal".
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 246d
I have and do, likely more than you. Thanks for patronizing!
That doesn't change my point, that the danger of gun violence is a problem, but is considerably made out to be worse than the reality by the media.
Like, we have states larger than some European countries. If you took the reporting on all the bad shit happening over the equivalent space/population amount in Europe it would be pretty fucking harrowing as well.
I've known multiple people fall into a life of constant anxiety due to overexposing themselves to the media. Convinced that every city was a fucking gun violence warzone. That horrible things were happening all the time. They didn't know anyone who knew anyone who had experienced the things they were convinced were regular horrible occurences. And they knew more than one person (mutual friends) that worked and lived in the US city with the highest homicide rate at the time. None of those people had been even in the vicinity of gun violence.
I've been around for nearly 35 years, and I enjoy talking with people. I've met only one single person who had been a victim of gun violence, in that they were robbed at gunpoint while working nights at a gas station in a rough area.
There are fucking studies about this shit that are over 15 years old that show that exposure to news media back then caused people to ridiculously overestimate the frequency of crime (and especially violent crime). News has only become more emotionally charged since.
I'm not saying America is some amazing place. I'm just saying that the news would have you believe that almost everyone here has had a gun violence experience, or that visitng the US is unsafe because of gun violence, when that's not the case.
drhodl@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 245d
So, why then are the statistics of dead, murdered school children so much higher than anywhere else in the world? I just googled, and there are 4300 child gun deaths in US every year, about 3600 in school shootings. That's an apalling number, and the fact you guys don't try to restrict guns, is even more apalling imo. For general gun deaths......"The U.S. has significantly higher gun death rates than most other developed nations, ranking as an outlier among high-income countries, though lower than some Latin American nations. While the U.S. rate is substantially higher than places like Canada, Australia, and European countries, it's lower than countries with extreme violence like El Salvador or Venezuela, but its overall firearm mortality is in the top percentiles globally. " USA has third world statistics, and while 3rd world countries do have a lot of gun violence, they have almost zero school shootings...... I'm not trying to be patronising, but it sounds as if you have a somewhat sheltered existence. To the rest of the normal and decent world, guns are restricted to those who have a need, and are demonstrably sane. USA is open slather, with no public psych care available, and you guys think this is normal. YOU are the outliers, and your cowardly politicians are owned by the gun lobby, so it perpetuates. Sane people see how fucking stupid this is, even as you deflect the problem to the media, and try to minimize it. The statistics say that you are wrong, and your children are paying for it.
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 244d
I don't know what to tell you beyond what I've already said.
I'm not denying that it's a serious goddamn problem. I have acknowledged that in every single comment I've made about this. Please stop insisting that I'm saying otherwise.
Once again, I am only saying that despite the high numbers, it is not just some ever present part of life over here to the degree that every American, or even a majority, has experienced gun violence. Everyone from the outside seems to think that's true, but it's insanely, laughably not. The quite overwhelming majority of Americans have not experienced gun violence, and won't within their lifetime.
Our population number is roughly equivalent to 3/4 of the entire European Union's combined population. Any of our numbers relating to people are going to look high unless you bear that in mind.
LifeLikeLady@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 246d
Don't come here is the message they're sending. The US is closed for business.
BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz · 15 pts · 246d
Freedom!
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 246d
lol the World Cup is gonna be yuge success bigly
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 246d
"why are the canadian matches so much more populated compared to ours?"
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 246d
Surely FIFA fans won't put up with an incredibly oppressive country
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 246d
lmagitem@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 246d
RIP what was left of the US tourism industry
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 13 pts · 246d
So fucking annoying of articles to be like "this was published on Tuesday by the federal register and is open for comments" only to not provide a link.
BenLeMan@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 246d
No thanks.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 246d
tourists? what tourists?
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub · 9 pts · 246d
Seems they got really tired of people bringing burner phones when visiting the USA.
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 246d
Not that I would ever set foot in the US but what constitutes Social Media?
rbos@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 246d
Yeah, I'd worry that they'd ask for my social media and get confused and angry.
Haven't been to the USA since 2016, unlikely to ever go again. :(
borQue@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 245d
Murica, home of hatred and fear. and home of the spoiled. and the greedy. and the devious. and the self endulged. and the (fill in your favourite bad quality here, it 'll fit)
TrippingBalls@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 245d
Read between the lines.... 100 billion dollar bailout coming to aid the tourism businesses affected by the new rules..
His hotels...
Just like the farmer bailout due to the losses incurred from the tariffs
ikidd@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 244d
To be fair, the farmer bailout is a drop in the bucket of what they're down over lost sales to China and higher fertilizer prices. Like, have the day you voted for and all that, but 12B is 1% of this years military budget.
ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 246d
What’s social media?
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 245d
What's "US tourism"?
regedit@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 245d
And what's the deal with airline food?
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 245d
What
Is up
With that?
tomkatt@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 245d
Something that existed until the beginning of 2025.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 245d
This is, technically
ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 245d
Isn’t this more of a messaging board? I don’t think messaging boards are social media.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 245d
Tbh I'm not sure. Someone just said once that Reddit is so I kinda thought that made sense at the time.
There is definitely more B's on something like Facebook, I'd agree.
eleitl@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 245d
That would fly well, as a defense in court. Social media are what they say are social media.
kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 245d
An online message board is a type of social media yes. The Wikipedia definition seems solid:
"Social media are new media technologies that facilitate the creation, sharing and aggregation of content (such as ideas, interests, and other forms of expression) amongst virtual communities and networks."
ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 245d
Thanks for sharing. I still question it though due to it wasn’t called that before till MySpace became so big and popular. Message boards been around since the 90s, some would say late 80s depending on your perspective. Or is a message board one community with multiple topics?
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 246d
I don't have any history to hand over. Still not going though.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 246d
dont know who has to hear this but it's ok to lie to the government.
Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 246d
That is false. Lying to federal agents, investigators, or officials can land you in a world of shit. See 18 U.S.C. 1001 for details.
https://legalclarity.org/18-u-s-c-1001-false-statements-and-federal-penalties/
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 246d
In context I think they mean morally
redlemace@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 246d
Dear lord!!! Just tell me what you don't wanna have, it's way shorter!
Oh wait ... you can't even pay me to go there! Would an employer demand me to go there, I'd quit on the spot.
DeICEAmerica@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 245d
thatsnothowyoudoit@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 246d
And what happens if I forget something? So many email addresses and phone numbers to avoid marketing spam… no way I could honestly recall them all.
This is more relevant than ever: https://youtu.be/eiyfwZVAzGw
Or for those who want to skip Google snorting up your data: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=eiyfwZVAzGw
Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 246d
Sadly, Palantir will probably find them all and then they'll accuse you of lying or withholding info.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 246d
If they already have the info, the n why ask?
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 246d
You could have more.
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 246d
How long until the USA institutes Sakoku or something like it?
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 246d
red state tourism must be taking a hit, if the MSM arnt reporting it.
pleaseletmein@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 246d
Showing up at the airport with my file cabinet full of old memes.
Bluewing@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 245d
Shouldn't be hard for anyone from Europe. The EU already wants to monitor all the social media anyway. Plus age restrictions. The Aussie's aren't far behind either. And they have age restrictions now.
plyth@feddit.org · 2 pts · 246d
I thought that had been required before. What changed?
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 246d
It wasn't
plyth@feddit.org · 1 pts · 246d
Some comment mentioned that this is for visa free visits whereas visa visits already had that requirement.
ksh@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 246d
Yes ESTA already asks for social accounts while applying for Us visa.
falseWhite@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 246d
PeacefulForest@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 246d