This is one thing that irritates me about a tool I work with: It has built-in functions to calculate a median and to calculate an average, by which it means the arithmetic mean. I tend to use the median because the data I work with has severe outliers skewing the mean, but then I have to explain what that means (heh).
I recently watched a video responding to a video about Supergirl. Idiot needs Supergirl to be bad so he can complain about it; his channel depends on complaining about popular movies. He complains that she shouldn't be able to get drunk because alcohol doesn't affect kryptonians. Someone explains to him directly that she goes to red sun planets so that she can get drunk, that she CAN get drunk on red sun planets, as was clearly explained at the end of Superman (2025), and his immediate response is "yeah but why drink if alcohol has no effect on her?"
I don't know if having a beard is sufficient to make one trans.
Also, if gnome women just naturally have facial hair, then it obviously does not make them trans, they just do sexual dimorphism differently than humans do.
I still love the post where some dude bitches at Tom Morello something like "I liked RatM when you weren't political" and Tom shot back asking him to name a single song that wasn't political so he could delete it.
Never got to see RATM live, held tickets in my hand 3 times, and it was always cancelled (covid, Zach’s injury). At least I saw Morello a year ago, it was great.
Reminds me of bad old days when Ukrainian cops were the worst shit. Like - plant evidence and arrest you worst shit, beat you up in the alley because you look weird shit. You see a cop - you go the opposite side of the street as far as possible because that motherfucker will have a problem with you. And then one day - the government pulled the trigger on the police reform, fired pretty much anyone with any kind of negative rep and replaced them with new recruits and it is almost as if years of fucked up bullshit were all just the bad dream.
I guess Ukraine didn't push enough propaganda on you to convince half your population that cops abusing your rights, and killing people at will, is great for Ukraine!
That's how we do it in America, the GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!®
Our copaganda never really had a chance to get going like that because for the longest time it was either produced by russians or for the russians. Because of that it was never associated with the Ukrainian police. Post-2014 and the police reform cop shows do their thing but the focus is about policemen being regular Joes like everyone else and the subjects of government corruption and especially corrupted judicial system and also loose cannon cops doing more damage than good are regular topics even for the most basic shows. Meanwhile the streaming shows either try to pull off a Columbo or Poirot style detective stories instead of regular cop show format.
See, the big problem in my opinion, is that they didn't convince people that the cops are great. They convinced people that the cops are mostly abusing the people they want to see abused.....
A big problem in that is the obvious and massive societal issue that so many people voted on, and seem to care about, above all else, whether or not the marginalized people they hate are being hurt.
And the people constantly complaining that schools don't teach critical thinking are the same ones who think English class is worthless. Textual evidence, do you speak it?!
part of me wants to believe somewhere down the line, days, weeks, months, years -- they'll have a sudden realization in the shower or before bed, and never stop cringing internally
the more realistic part of me knows in my heart that that moment may never come without being gently prodded towards it.
Might be the conspiratorial part of my brain coming through, but I'm half convinced it's not just a stupid person, but an AI that completely missed the point.
I almost wonder if there shouldn't be an extension or corollary of Hanlon's Razor somewhere to account for AI.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be better explained by stupidity, but never attribute to stupidity that which can be better explained by malicious chatbots."
Out of curiosity, I just sent the screenshot of post (without comment) to ChatGPT and Gemini to asked for a comment and they got the point, maybe they are using smaller models that are cheaper to run.
Hanlon's Razor is an old adage that boils down to: when you think someone is intentionally trying to be evil and ruin something, take a step back and ask whether it's likelier they're trying to be intentionally malicious, or if they're just stupid/incompetent.
For example, you go to a restaurant and tell the waiter that you can't have dairy, so you order a pasta dish without cheese. They bring it out to you, but look, there's cheese. You can assume either that the waiter or the staff in the kitchen absolutely hate you and intentionally gave you cheese just to spite you...or that they just screwed up and forgot. The latter is probably likelier.
I was half-joking about potentially updating this idea to include an additional stipulation about AI bots online, which are good at looking like stupid people but actually are often malicious. Bots are used to sway political opinions. You have cases where they are trying to pass themselves off as real people to drown out legitimate discourse with a simulation of it, and cases like Musk's Grok AI where it's programmed to ignore truth and instead answer questions in ways that further his agenda or inflate his ego.
So sometimes when you see political posts that just defy all logic, or are ignoring a hard truth that is staring them in the face, you're inclined to ask "How can this person sincerely believe what they're saying right now?" And often the answer will be that they don't, because they're not a person, they're a bot just regurgitating propagandic talking points.
I almost wonder if there shouldn’t be an extension or corollary of Hanlon’s Razor somewhere to account for AI.
I feel like Hanlon's Razor is a disease more than it is useful to anyone in any situation.
So frequently do normal people refuse to acknowledge that others can simply be malicious, that this rule only serves to aid people in giving the benefit of the doubt to people who act in ways to abuse it.
Politicians, shitty bosses, unscrupulous contractors, etc etc. All of these people hurt others by abusing their presumptions of innocence.
It's not perfect, but the basic idea is that assuming malice as default in every scenario will cause one to spiral into paranoia.
It's not saying "people are never malicious and always just stupid" but just asking someone to take a step back from the situation and ask which is likelier in context.
It’s not perfect, but the basic idea is that assuming malice as default in every scenario will cause one to spiral into paranoia.
But thats not what the phrase actuyally advocates for. It feels almost like a bit of theological apologia to save a phrase that really does far more harm than good in my estimation.
A retired DC cop was convicted of tipping off Enrique Tarrio about an arrest warrant for burning a Black Lives Matter banner. He claimed he was "building rapport" with Tarrio.
105 Comments
bluegreenpurplepink@lemmy.world · 218 pts · 252d
Hint:
Some of those that work forces Are the same that burn crosses
tempest@lemmy.ca · 91 pts · 252d
SOME OF THOSE WHO WORK FORCES, ARE THE SAME THAT BURN CROSSES
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 65 pts · 252d
HGNUGH
InputZero@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 251d
Killing in the name of! Killing in the name of.
masta_chief@sh.itjust.works · 38 pts · 251d
Some of those that burn crosses Are the same that hold office
(from the show outside the DNC in 2000. Watch it if you haven't)
Agent641@lemmy.world · 59 pts · 251d
That would make a kickass lyric someone should put that in a song
fodor@lemmy.zip · 30 pts · 251d
Fuck you.
Squirrelanna@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 27 pts · 251d
Another great line you're good at this.
itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 21 pts · 251d
I won't do what you tell me
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 251d
damn. y'all writin a banger here
anzo@programming.dev · 11 pts · 251d
Nah bro. They are joking as per the post. All these are lyrics in Hannah Montana songs!
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 251d
thank you for telling me! i'll go do it!
SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social · 12 pts · 251d
Yes, THE anthem for police forces!
slaacaa@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 251d
“Yes, Sir, I will do what you tell me!”
-TheGreatWhiteNorthFreePress
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 186 pts · 252d
Wonder if he figured it out yet?
slothrop@lemmy.ca · 132 pts · 252d
Figured what out?
--TheGreatWhiteNorthFreePress
ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml · 69 pts · 252d
That is a bit of a misnomer since figuring things out requires at least a double-digit IQ and I don't have one of those.
--TheGreatWhiteNorthFreePress
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 252d
Well, a two digit IQ is below average (well median, but you get the idea) so…….
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 252d
The median is an average
luciferofastora@feddit.org · 10 pts · 251d
This is one thing that irritates me about a tool I work with: It has built-in functions to calculate a median and to calculate an average, by which it means the arithmetic mean. I tend to use the median because the data I work with has severe outliers skewing the mean, but then I have to explain what that means (heh).
Almacca@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 246d
I'm sure you have the means to explain what mean means.
TomArrr@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 251d
So they would be the mode of the mean below the median?
HeyJoe@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 252d
You know he saw that and probably thought how clever he was to point this out while posting it.
Digit@lemmy.wtf · 6 pts · 251d
*checks date*
*interprets name *
... doubt it.
ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca · 108 pts · 252d
The Great White North Free Press is a far right white nationalist independent "news" media. They're not getting it on purpose.
18107@aussie.zone · 69 pts · 251d
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."
- Upton Sinclair
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 251d
I recently watched a video responding to a video about Supergirl. Idiot needs Supergirl to be bad so he can complain about it; his channel depends on complaining about popular movies. He complains that she shouldn't be able to get drunk because alcohol doesn't affect kryptonians. Someone explains to him directly that she goes to red sun planets so that she can get drunk, that she CAN get drunk on red sun planets, as was clearly explained at the end of Superman (2025), and his immediate response is "yeah but why drink if alcohol has no effect on her?"
Simulation6@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 251d
Where you stand depends on where you sit.
lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 251d
I came in like a wrecking ball
Vespair@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 251d
I'm cumming like you wrecked my balls
BurnedDonutHole@ani.social · 10 pts · 252d
I detest that you call these brain-dead people doing it on purpose.
Almacca@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 246d
You don't say? You'd never guess that from the name. ;)
qarbone@lemmy.world · 72 pts · 252d
That's not even what a "misnomer" is.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 251d
It's a female gnome, right?
kelseybcool@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 251d
Yes; specifically an unmarried one.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 251d
... miznomer.
Possibly married. Possibly not.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 251d
Female Gnomes have beards, making them Trans.
I don't know what to do with information, but I'm sure a MAGA would have lots of ideas.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 251d
I... ...
I don't know if having a beard is sufficient to make one trans.
Also, if gnome women just naturally have facial hair, then it obviously does not make them trans, they just do sexual dimorphism differently than humans do.
burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 250d
Stop, you're confusing them! And when they get confused, they hurt everyone in their confusion!
Digit@lemmy.wtf · 7 pts · 251d
Good catch. I overlooked that, overshadowed by the fail of missing the insinuation in the whimsical analogy.
Rooskie91@discuss.online · 64 pts · 252d
This guy must listen to RAtM and be like "I don't get it, work forces, burn crosses, this metaphor doesn't make sense!"
Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 84 pts · 252d
"Since when is RAtM political?!?!"
drcobaltjedi@programming.dev · 44 pts · 252d
I still love the post where some dude bitches at Tom Morello something like "I liked RatM when you weren't political" and Tom shot back asking him to name a single song that wasn't political so he could delete it.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 91 pts · 252d
This one is still my favorite
slaacaa@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 251d
Love that dude.
Never got to see RATM live, held tickets in my hand 3 times, and it was always cancelled (covid, Zach’s injury). At least I saw Morello a year ago, it was great.
NachBarcelona@piefed.social · 8 pts · 251d
No idea. I thought they just hate dishwashers or something.
BilSabab@lemmy.world · 58 pts · 251d
Reminds me of bad old days when Ukrainian cops were the worst shit. Like - plant evidence and arrest you worst shit, beat you up in the alley because you look weird shit. You see a cop - you go the opposite side of the street as far as possible because that motherfucker will have a problem with you. And then one day - the government pulled the trigger on the police reform, fired pretty much anyone with any kind of negative rep and replaced them with new recruits and it is almost as if years of fucked up bullshit were all just the bad dream.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 34 pts · 251d
I guess Ukraine didn't push enough propaganda on you to convince half your population that cops abusing your rights, and killing people at will, is great for Ukraine!
That's how we do it in America, the GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!®
BilSabab@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 250d
Our copaganda never really had a chance to get going like that because for the longest time it was either produced by russians or for the russians. Because of that it was never associated with the Ukrainian police. Post-2014 and the police reform cop shows do their thing but the focus is about policemen being regular Joes like everyone else and the subjects of government corruption and especially corrupted judicial system and also loose cannon cops doing more damage than good are regular topics even for the most basic shows. Meanwhile the streaming shows either try to pull off a Columbo or Poirot style detective stories instead of regular cop show format.
Credibly_Human@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 250d
See, the big problem in my opinion, is that they didn't convince people that the cops are great. They convinced people that the cops are mostly abusing the people they want to see abused.....
A big problem in that is the obvious and massive societal issue that so many people voted on, and seem to care about, above all else, whether or not the marginalized people they hate are being hurt.
nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de · 55 pts · 251d
aeronmelon@lemmy.world · 47 pts · 252d
Oooo, so close!
Snowclone@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 252d
So they don't know what the word 'misnomer' means at all? You really gotta be brain dead...
starik@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 252d
misnomer [mis-ˈnō-mər ] noun. a metaphor that doesn’t make sense
adj16@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 251d
In case anyone thinks you’re being serious:
misnomer /mĭs-nō′mər/
noun
https://www.wordnik.com/words/misnomer
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/misnomer
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/misnomer
TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 251d
adj16@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 251d
😂
kingofras@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 252d
They know what someone is who doesn’t have their own skin colour. Surely that must count for something
wesker@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 pts · 252d
Right? It's a song by AFI, duh.
frank@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 251d
Miss nomer can i
AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space · 40 pts · 251d
The reason that police departments don’t sell beefcake calendars like fire departments do is because there aren’t enough cops without Nazi tattoos
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 251d
Nice.
Almacca@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 246d
Not to mention how many of them are obese.
DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works · 37 pts · 252d
Hannah Montana is a girl and therefore can't be a "proud boy". Utter nonsense.
OrteilGenou@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 252d
Now that you mention it, I have never ever seen Hannah Montana and Joe Montana in the same place either...
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 15 pts · 252d
Or Tony Montana for that matter
Godort@lemmy.ca · 27 pts · 252d
Reading comprehension test:
Why did the author compare cops and proud boys to Miley Cyrus and Hannah Montana?
What conclusions can you draw about the author based on this comparison?
luciferofastora@feddit.org · 3 pts · 251d
The author is hella based.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 251d
And the people constantly complaining that schools don't teach critical thinking are the same ones who think English class is worthless. Textual evidence, do you speak it?!
sukhmel@programming.dev · 1 pts · 251d
The author participates in society. The author is not opposed to Disney.
::: spoiler no positive conclusions, really /s :::
TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 251d
archonet@lemy.lol · 17 pts · 252d
part of me wants to believe somewhere down the line, days, weeks, months, years -- they'll have a sudden realization in the shower or before bed, and never stop cringing internally
the more realistic part of me knows in my heart that that moment may never come without being gently prodded towards it.
HikingVet@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 252d
Gently prodded? These fuckers need to be driven to the point with a cattle prod and have their face shoved in it to even hope they catch on.
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 252d
Gently, though. Don't wanna incite violence and get our whole forum nuked
luciferofastora@feddit.org · 3 pts · 251d
Someone else pointed out they're a right wing "news" account. They won't cringe. Most likely, they got the implication but are trying to deny it.
elbiter@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 251d
A bit more and he gets it.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 251d
No, he won't.
kopasu22@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 251d
Might be the conspiratorial part of my brain coming through, but I'm half convinced it's not just a stupid person, but an AI that completely missed the point.
I almost wonder if there shouldn't be an extension or corollary of Hanlon's Razor somewhere to account for AI.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be better explained by stupidity, but never attribute to stupidity that which can be better explained by malicious chatbots."
RedAggroBest@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 251d
Look at their username. Being obtuse to obvious shit like that is a common right-wing play.
escorps@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 251d
Out of curiosity, I just sent the screenshot of post (without comment) to ChatGPT and Gemini to asked for a comment and they got the point, maybe they are using smaller models that are cheaper to run.
kopasu22@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 251d
The post is also from 2022, and the tech has changed a bit since then.
escorps@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 250d
Oh I missed that, then yeah could be the case
Moolam@hilariouschaos.com · 2 pts · 250d
Mind explaining? I dont get it (genuinly)
kopasu22@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 250d
Hanlon's Razor is an old adage that boils down to: when you think someone is intentionally trying to be evil and ruin something, take a step back and ask whether it's likelier they're trying to be intentionally malicious, or if they're just stupid/incompetent.
For example, you go to a restaurant and tell the waiter that you can't have dairy, so you order a pasta dish without cheese. They bring it out to you, but look, there's cheese. You can assume either that the waiter or the staff in the kitchen absolutely hate you and intentionally gave you cheese just to spite you...or that they just screwed up and forgot. The latter is probably likelier.
I was half-joking about potentially updating this idea to include an additional stipulation about AI bots online, which are good at looking like stupid people but actually are often malicious. Bots are used to sway political opinions. You have cases where they are trying to pass themselves off as real people to drown out legitimate discourse with a simulation of it, and cases like Musk's Grok AI where it's programmed to ignore truth and instead answer questions in ways that further his agenda or inflate his ego.
So sometimes when you see political posts that just defy all logic, or are ignoring a hard truth that is staring them in the face, you're inclined to ask "How can this person sincerely believe what they're saying right now?" And often the answer will be that they don't, because they're not a person, they're a bot just regurgitating propagandic talking points.
Credibly_Human@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 250d
I feel like Hanlon's Razor is a disease more than it is useful to anyone in any situation.
So frequently do normal people refuse to acknowledge that others can simply be malicious, that this rule only serves to aid people in giving the benefit of the doubt to people who act in ways to abuse it.
Politicians, shitty bosses, unscrupulous contractors, etc etc. All of these people hurt others by abusing their presumptions of innocence.
kopasu22@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 250d
It's not perfect, but the basic idea is that assuming malice as default in every scenario will cause one to spiral into paranoia.
It's not saying "people are never malicious and always just stupid" but just asking someone to take a step back from the situation and ask which is likelier in context.
Credibly_Human@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 249d
But thats not what the phrase actuyally advocates for. It feels almost like a bit of theological apologia to save a phrase that really does far more harm than good in my estimation.
SereneSadie@quokk.au · 10 pts · 251d
KENNY_LOGIN_LILLIAN@lemmy.world · -14 pts · 251d
Siegfried@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 251d
Funny you say that, i have seen dozens of comments like that
KENNY_LOGIN_LILLIAN@lemmy.world · -11 pts · 251d
Digit@lemmy.wtf · 10 pts · 251d
Still waiting for Miley Cyrus Linux.
DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 251d
someone should make that
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 251d
But what would happen if you dual-booted them?
TomMasz@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 252d
Wooooooosh!
db2@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 252d
If by swing you mean punch themself in the dick, sure.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 252d
THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT! WHAT DID HE THINK THE POINT WAS?
And009@lemmynsfw.com · 2 pts · 251d
An honest dictionary knowledge exhibition
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 251d
ArrowMax@feddit.org · 5 pts · 251d
Jeff-fa-fa!
Rhaedas@fedia.io · 6 pts · 252d
"Some of those that work forces..." is a bad metaphor too then, I guess.
BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 251d
A retired DC cop was convicted of tipping off Enrique Tarrio about an arrest warrant for burning a Black Lives Matter banner. He claimed he was "building rapport" with Tarrio.
richardwallass@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 251d
The best of both worlds
EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 251d
A bit of an aside, but Saga is a great comic. Everyone should read it.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 251d
Conservatives inadvertently reaching the point
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 252d
It's not just poor character but measurable cognitive limitations that allow ridiculous, nonsensical and antisocial so called 'ideologies' to exist.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 251d
Looks like he misses the brain to understand this. If I only had a dollar for every stupid conservative...
Acid_Burn@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 251d
Upvote for Ghüs too! Saga is amazing
WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org · -1 pts · 252d
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FlyingCircus@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 251d
Political posts on shitposts? Who’s got the corn?🌽