Facebook is forcing new users to use facial recognition

It is addiction just like any other. I felt like I can't quit it, I feel like I will lose connection with the friends and family that is still using it. That it keeps me informed and other BS.

After deleting it on 2nd try (after navigating the maze to delete, they gave 30 days to change mind, hoping I won't be able to resist and will log in. And of course I couldn't resist the first time and logged back in) I realized that I haven't lost anything of value and the people that I still matter I have other ways to contact.

It was just an illusion.

Edit: fixed

I deleted my facebook account in 2022 and have essentially not been contacted by friends since, so there's that

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Marketplace can be good for local deals and I can’t fault anyone for taking advantage of that

Marketplace is the one and only reason I havent deleted my account. It sucks but it is by far the best way to buy and sell.

Marketplace has killed most other local trading stuff sites. Craigslist is still limping along, but has far less available at higher prices than FBMP. I’m happy to hear of viable alternatives, especially for used vehicles, tools and equipment. I’ve saved a lot of money on my business and hobbies that way, but would leave in a heartbeat if there’s a real competitor.

Aside from the already-mentioned marketplace, social networks like FB are fit well for localized giveaways. Where I am, the local analog of FB has groups where bakeries and cafes give out food remaining at the end of the day.

One population that this particularly pertains to are homeless people. Some folks get surprised when a homeless person has a smartphone, but it's a means for finding help and resources.

My elderly father knows how to use it and posts nature photos all the time.

I signed up for friendica, after 2 decades of having never used facebook.

It's blank, and I don't know what I'm supposed to do.

I can't comment on what the facebook experience is, but I imagine they don't just dump you onto a blank white page, with zero explaination.

Note that I am NOT defending or endorsing facebook. I'm just saying the decentralized services have work to do before they can fully be reccomended.

I also recently signed up for pixelfed. It took 3 days to login the first time. And I'm still not sure what the point of collections is. But I did upload 4 pictures.

What is the decentralized alternative where all the people in my city are?

One(1) ethical use for generative AI

That means Facebook already knows what you look like. Otherwise they couldn't have known you submitted the wrong photo.

I had an account but deleted it years ago, during covid my kids school put a lot of information on their Facebook account so I tried making a new account. Facebook told me there wasn't enough proof I was real, so I made a fake account with a super common name, they were fine with that. So now I have a Facebook account that I occasionally use to repost sports articles,I have zero interest in sports but my guy seems to like them.

To be fair, it probably doesn't just go to the US government.

Wait until you hear what they do with your drivers license/ passport / or id photo.

But seriously fuck Facebook I wouldn't voluntarily give them anything.

Would you happen to have a source on this?

THIS!

I tried this to get an account. This was back in 2021. My account was deleted immediately. Probably a mixture of name and face. Maybe. But F that.

One wit responded to such requests for ID by sending in a picture of an id with pharoh ramsey's mummy's picture, birthdate thousands bc.

I never agreed to give them my personal information. My emails forced me to, locking me out of accounts I needed to access.

I now found alternative email that doesn't need a phone number or linked other email. I am quitting every site that tried to force me to link my phone number, real name, likeness, id, address, anything like that, without a valid reason.

Amazon just demanded I verify my account again, same ip, same account I've used for years. Verifying under the email I abandoned for forcing my phone verification periodically, that would lock me out of my accounts if I lost my phone or it's service. Trying to make good on my threats to quit them too.

More people gently creep into dementia every day.

Facebook marketing across high schools and colleges is intense. And because it's such a pivotal platform, you kinda need to get one and build up a - let's call it a social credit score - just so you can endure admittance counselors and employers demanding to see your account as part of the screening process.

Sort of like getting a credit card as a teenager so you can prove you're credit worthy enough for an apartment or car loan in your twenties. You just have to post generic mundane bullshit on the timeline and join generic mundane groups so people see you as "normal".

Unfortunately, Facebook Marketplace is still a relatively popular Craigslist alt.

the facial pictures

I never got in, and I stopped letting people take pictures of me so they couldn't put me on there either.

Doritos dew it right!

Right? I ditched them almost a decade ago.

if you’re using an iphone, the avoidance is just your own inconvenience. face id on iphone all happens locally, on a dedicated security chip in your phone. id be much more concerned with having any pictures of myself on google photos

Yes, But the marketplace is actually useful.

Check local alternatives. I use Bazos (though it's only has support for Slovakia, Czechia, Poland and for Austria)

Craigslist still has people on it, if you learn how to filter out the scammers.

In the UK, auto-trader is used to sell used cars. I guess eBay or Gumtree (if it still exists) to sell stuff?

Should've sent them a picture of someone else's dick for maximum confusion.

Yeah. Don't care. Won't use it. It's that easy.

Same for Instagram. Not doing something is easy.

Right, when you apply for jobs, they want socials and indeeds and this and that, when you meet people they want to add you on Facebook. These are "private" companies, but because they are natural monopolies, they essentially become quasi-required parts of being able to function normally within society.

The right way to deal with this is to regulate the fuck out of the natural monopolies, but rich elitists who own the government by proxy and big surveillance tech have this symbiotic relationship where big tech surveils and secretly data mines the public (to blacklist and exclude potential risks to the system and monitor those people) and so it won't happen.

Republicans, hurt most by the blacklisting initially, were most likely to regulate big tech, ironically, but now money and ass-kissing of Republican leaders has changed the game and no one will fucking regulate them. All politicians who allow this to happen are either weak or whores, being paid to just perform a role of politician.

Bullshit. I have never used facebook and I have never had an issue where I needed to.

If you are selling second hand, use a different platform. No one is making you use marketplace.

There are online portals, calendars, and even emails that notify parents of students and events.

You can call you friends and find out how they are doing. You can also email to keep in touch. Stop posting everything about yourself and the internet and you should be telling your friends the same.

You are just making excuses as to why you need it in your life and I have never had to use it for anything since its inception.

they may get a dickpic

"they required you"

Have you never thought that you can actually NOT do these things?

I mean, sure, maybe you had a good reason and you felt it was fine. But I wonder how many people just do what the screen tells them without realizing they can actually say no and be ok with the consequences.

In my country, biometrics are now prevalent. I had a very hard time giving my face to my bank, but the government is on board with this because, they say, we have to combat money laundry. They are trying to tie EVERYTHING to our identities: biometrics, mobile phone number, official documents, bank accounts, they are all tightly tied already.

So, people feel like their biometrics are already out there, since they don't grasp the concept of attack surface. Until now, we need to give our biometrics to vote, to pay taxes, to get a passport, to get a drivers license (in some places), and to get a serious bank account. The only way we can deny biometrics is by not needing any of those services (very poor, and very rich people that don't like to travel the world). Under these circumstances, most people just give away their biometrics to anyone that asks, it's a given for them.

a lot of the big names in image generation fingerprint the images they output to make them easy to filter out of training data. theres a possibility they could detect this fairly easily.

Or just upload a picture of the unabomber.

you and me brother, time to go IRL to the flea market

lol ‘Sane’ people wait to see the damage wrought by this dogshit then wait three years for more of it and THEN try to join. Your sane and my sane are different sanes. Best of luck, citizen!

Yeah, they are like cockroaches. An alternative to marketplace and online stores is sorely needed, even for good old exchange of things.

https://codeberg.org/flohmarkt/flohmarkt is popular in some places. Maybe popular is a strong word. The problem is getting critical mass.

No need of an Fakebook account that it can track you, if your family and friends have an account with your data, mail and phone in their agenda. With this also Zuckerbot know it. Apart of all (pixel)tracking API in all websites with an FB link. Because of this, I've blocked all FB services in Portmaster, I can't even access it, but with it, I'm not longer exist for FB.

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If buying shit at Goodwill and selling it online is how you choose to make your living, then I suppose you're "stuck" with FB.

But, if you are making a living at it, or significantly supplementing your income, then your privacy is the cost of doing business. At least you are profiting something from the deal.

Good thing for you, that's terrible OpSec.

You describe a lot of terrible experience but also explain that it is a necessity because it has replaced Craigslist.

I'd assume one can manage without an online marketplace when given conditions like these?

I too miss the Facebook marketplace but I wouldn't give in to all this crap just to have access to it

Facebook is acutely aware of the scams and actively encourages it.

Doesn't work. They ask you to use the camera and have you turn you head in different directions.

It seems to just do this now. I tried to make a marketplace account and it demanded a video selfie. Needless to say that didn't happen

I haven't because I don't know if there is even a point, since afaik they don't actually delete anything, they just keep you from accessing it, and keep adding to it anything other people post about you.