Pope Cancels Visit to the U.S. After Pentagon Threatens Vatican: Report

at this point a "military operation" into Vatican City of all places by the US wouldn't surprise me.

he United States has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world

There's this thing with a strait that seems to suggest otherwise.

Once, this was satire:

Invade pope, distract Iran

Now?

They should excommunicate Vance

well the US has now totally gone rogue.

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They're just saying the quiet part out loud now

Most of those Republicans are some flavor of Protestant, so it tracks

You understand that magats are typically protestant right?

Jesus (as written) would likely be very upset about a church that builds enormous cathedrals, hoards gold, has a corrupt "priest class" and has at times waged war.

Unironically this. Jesus was not big on religious authorities.

Ackshually, what Jesus did to the first pope was take his eyesight:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+9&version=EHV

Read this is Bill Donahue’s voice from the South Park Easter episode.

Nothing reasonable about pedophile protecting fascist JD Vance. Let’s not allow them to position him as a viable leader.

You must be to type of person who beleives B. HUSSEIN Obama was born in the US. /s

this is coming from the "Haitians are breaking into homes to eat your pets!" guy

Also the "If I have to create stories that's what I'll do." (About this exact thing) Guy.

What a chode.

Also, unless the meeting is on your own turf, how do you diplomatically refuse to sit on a couch that was there with JD before you got there? I don't think pope training covers this.

Especially in the Oval Office: chances are non-zero that any seat you might take in the room has had either diaper breach, Crown Prince Couchfucker after hours, or both.

A guy who has to dress in white for the job has to think about these things, because if he sits on the wrong couch in the white robe, when he stands up again now it's HIS story. So in the end it's gotta be either "I'll just stand, thanks," or like you said, not go at all.

I dunno I think theres a vague quiet dignity to a politician who dresses like a clown or a heavily makeupped whore (no offense intended to legit prostitutes). All he needs now is a "I dont care, do you" coat to go full whore and I will give him a full dignity/self-awareness point and smallest ounce of respect.

Vance already took out the last pope.

Completely understandable if you lose the will to live after meeting Vance

The last pope died shortly after meeting with Vance. Sure he had pneumonia (but felt well enough to take a meeting), but Vance could conceivably have had something on his hand that interacted with the popes diminished health. Its pure speculation of course, and no one can prove it either way and the timing is suspect, when you see them now threatening the current pope with assassination. Assassination just comes to their mind huh?

I've seen other references elsewhere. Any quotes on what was said seem to reference the Free Press article. But the other sources are still reporting that there was a meeting, and the Vatican didn't like what they heard,whatever it was.

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/pope-leo-visit-us-trump-president-b2954080.html

According to Vatican and U.S. officials who were briefed on the meeting and spoke to the publication, the Pentagon criticized the Pope's statements in January, interpreting them as hostile attacks on Trump's policies.

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A Vatican official speaking to The Free Press said the Pope has no plans to visit the U.S. while Trump is in office.

https://www.newsweek.com/avignon-papacy-explained-what-reported-us-threat-to-pope-and-vatican-means-11803877

As things got heated, Colby reportedly lectured Cardinal Pierre on the military power of the U.S. and told him that the Catholic Church must pick a side, according to Hale, and mentioned the “Avignon papacy.”

All information about the meeting was obtained by Ferraresi from Vatican and U.S. officials briefed on the Pentagon meeting. What Could Such a Reference Indicate?

There is no doubt that a reference to the “Avignon papacy” by a Pentagon official was meant to make the Vatican feel uneasy about crossing the Trump administration.

Some have suggested that the reference of this chapter of medieval history might signal the Trump administration’s intention to trigger a new schism, while others think it would suggest its willingness to use military force against the Holy See. Ferraresi, however, said that interpreting it as a military threat is “just absurd.”

According to Mike Young, author of a newsletter on civic accountability, the mention of the “Avignon papacy” was a reference to “an implicit model for what happens to religious institutions that oppose state power.”

In a post on X, he wrote: “That’s not a slip of the tongue. That’s a studied historical reference deployed deliberately in a room with the Pope's senior diplomat. The message was not subtle.”

From what I've seen, there seems to be a difference in priorities between Catholic leadership in America vs the rest of the world. If the Republicans continue to antagonize the Pope, that would probably work in their favor.

the Pope is American but still seems like a playable option

The fifa peace prize used to mean something

I'm almost surprised he's no an expat at this point.

We're gonna get a schism and the Church of America because Trump is basically Henry VIII but somehow even more disgusting

Organized crime is in bed with the administration make no mistake. They are junior partners, or in the case of organized crime in the service of certain nation-state actors they are controlling partners.

Just as an aside, when Steve Bannon was in prison, he hung out with the mobsters.

What's Peter thiel got to do with this?

the power of weaponized religion? ngl pretty powerful

How many divisions does the pope command?

Yep-- theres 1.4 billion catholics of various training levels-- its also 22% of the US population. Add that to the 2 billion muslims who already in need of some justice, and its starting to add up to a real insurgency risk, no matter how big the US military is. If Trump assassinates the pope and is caught in any way, its ON in the US.

It doesn't sound like you've met any Catholics

I have known too many Catholics to believe this. Unless they could wipe out these governments with passive aggressive looks.

I didn't know they had internet from whatever decade this sort of old school racism is from.

A holy crusade against the USA... THAT would be funny...

According to the Hellsing documentary, the Iscariot organization is so far beyond the secret service that a single Paladin could erase them and still have time to make Mass.

I, for one, would not mess with the Swiss guard. They are highly trained AND they wear those ridiculous outfits. Someone willing to wear that orange and blue nonsense with that coffee filter collar while brandishing a halberd is not to be trifled with.

We just had the largest set protests in history. The Republicans have followed the Putin playbook and have undermined every check and balance in our set of laws to prevent this. Most people are literally a week of being unemployed from being homeless. The shit you are seeing on the news are what the 6 billionaires that own our entire media want you to see.

On top of that the heavily armed “Americans”. You love to shove in our faces as a stereotype have been entirely propagandized into supporting the very people oppressing them.

Bad news is the same framework that fucked us is almost guaranteed to be actively working to do the same in whatever country you live in. So use us as an example and prevent this shit from happening to you early before it’s too fucking late

Who are you asking?

In what world do you think the general American public is in support of assassinating/couping the fucking Pope?

The fucking pudding brain in chief has surged 100s/1000s of the most villainous people in the country into positions of power faster that can even be coped with, and are doing everything in their power to end every semblance of decency, sensibility, and justice from our government. I was already mystified that Trump could possibly win again and terrified by what he would do with a second go at it. But even his first term didn't prepare anyone for this shit. The evil bastard has accelerated the destruction of this country far faster than I could have even thought possible, and attempting to spread this destruction across the entire world. We're drowning over here.

But glad you get to sit elsewhere and be a judgy bitch about my apparent complicity in this bullshit for not, I guess, protesting hard enough or getting myself killed?

The last Republican pol that decided to hold a Town Hall basically all their attendees were chanting "Fuck You" together at them. (I enjoy using "they/them" for MAGA Republicans)