TIL that Turkey asks gay people to provide explicit photos of them to be exempt from military service

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-17474967

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kboos1@lemmy.world · 232 pts · 119d (9 replies)

I don't know for sure but "send gay nudes or get drafted" sounds a little gay.

InvalidName2@lemmy.zip · 53 pts · 119d (2 replies)

Pumpkin, it's not just any gay nudes of yourself. It's gay nudes with very specific asks. The kinds of asks you might expect from a patron of your OnlyFans account. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Cethin@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 119d (1 reply)

There's something wrong with it if there's a threat involved.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 118d

That's what makes it hot.

AeonFelis@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 119d (2 replies)

"I'm not gay, but I need to you take some gay photos for me"

fibojoly@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 118d

"and I need you to do this specific pose otherwise it doesn't count". There is probably a sub for it, too!

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 118d

"So Eddie, we've been best friends since first grade, right?"

Einskjaldi@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 119d (1 reply)

I think it's like the bear hunter joke where you have to keep resubmitting it for even more clear close up photos.

yumpsuit@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 119d

“hey there burly bear”

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 118d

That will be next wave of text scams: "You are due to be drafted, unless you send nudes of yourself getting railed up the ass, with your face showing, and either a big smile, or some other expression that demonstrates your pleasure. It must be accompanied by a 500 word essay about how much you enjoyed it. In detail."

Diddlydee@feddit.uk · 119 pts · 119d (23 replies)

Apparently it's the gay man that takes it, not the gay man that gives it in Turkey. Wild.

Demdaru@lemmy.world · 107 pts · 119d (16 replies)

Meh, just archaic. In ye olde times it wasn't gay to fuck, it was gay to be fucked. Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome, modern times Turkey, etc.

diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 67 pts · 119d (14 replies)

NSFW ::: spoiler Tap for spoiler :::

lyralycan@sh.itjust.works · 41 pts · 119d

I knew it was possible

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 119d

Totally not gay.

Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 119d

The hat stays ON during whatever the fuck this is.

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 119d

... does this qualify as clownfuckery?

zo0@programming.dev · 9 pts · 119d

Please tell me you have a source for that

FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 119d (5 replies)

That would break my dick ngl

I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 119d (3 replies)

You just need to add more men so the diameter of the fuck train increases

FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 119d

CannedYeet@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 119d (1 reply)

Determine the maximum angle you can handle, x.

360⁰ ÷ x = number of men required.

Put that in a geometry textbook!

littlewonder@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 119d

I need someone to get to the bottom of this.

reptar@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 119d

It's for men with already broke dicks. Usually these rings come in pairs, with a clockwise and counterclockwise group based on broke-dick-handedness.

Real large gatherings do end up with further segmentation based on severity of the hook

voldage@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 119d

No one gets left behind

Denvil@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 119d

🎵 human centipede, human centipede 🎵

nullify3112@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 119d

Typical Saturday with the boys

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 118d

Until Arthur Prostate made his big discovery.

Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 119d (1 reply)

The Roman attitude still persists in the region, I guess?

WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 119d

Romans fucked up everything from beyond the thomb. The echoes of corruption ring into eternity...

Zoldyck@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 119d (3 replies)

Getting fucked is gay. Doing the fucking isn't. Duh /s

Lj404333@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 119d (2 replies)

If it's the same sex fucking it's gay but your likely being sarcastic

JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 119d (1 reply)

Definitely sarcastic, but also, that is a traditional belief in that area.

Lj404333@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 119d

Yeah it's the same with, kissing is too gay

zurohki@aussie.zone · 70 pts · 119d

Military recruiters:
Someone getting hit in the face by a dozen hotdogs

fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world · 64 pts · 119d (2 replies)

Military: Recruiting soldiers. Sorry, no power bottoms.

Soldiers: awwwww :'(

jballs@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 119d

Nah, it says to be excluded you have to be the "passive partner" so power bottoms are still allowed.

ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 119d

Big, strong, military men must always come out on top.

yakko@feddit.uk · 60 pts · 119d

Finally an ethical application for generative AI

olafurp@lemmy.world · 54 pts · 119d (1 reply)

My Turkish friend says there's a running joke of "The Turkish military has the largest gay porn collection in the world"

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 119d

it reflects that on the online porn sites

troubling087@lemmy.zip · 52 pts · 119d (3 replies)

But what if I get pegged by my gf? Does that count?

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 29 pts · 119d (2 replies)

Inquiring minds want to know.

jaybone@lemmy.zip · 36 pts · 119d (1 reply)

We need the pics. For Turkey.

InvalidName2@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 119d

Gobble gobble.

ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk · 41 pts · 118d (6 replies)

Wow, so being top is not gay enough apparently.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 118d (3 replies)

Modern western ideas where the most important part of sexual orientation is who you find attractive is somewhat new, and while it's gained a lot of popularity among queer people worldwide it's still not the default model everywhere. In a lot of times and places things such as who you have sex with regardless of attraction or what role you take in sex are considered more important (also at what age). Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if some people were to see a man who only has receptive sex and exclusively with women as more gay than a man who exclusively tops men.

I also wouldn't be surprised if they're thinking that a straight man might be willing to top a man to get out of the military, but not to bottom

starchylemming@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 118d (1 reply)

who would have guessed, that a culture that hates woman also hates every feminine act.

ironically the exclusive gay top is the manliest man by that definition, he doesn't even enjoy the softness of women. good=more manly, bad=more feminine.

it all checks out with my experience (no, not sexual) way to many of the second or third generation turks in germany have a completely fucked up view of masculinity and women. gotta look tough all the time! so tough! turkey is the best! erdogan is great! this sub culture was strong when i was in school and is alive and well today

Holytimes@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 118d

Welcome to the old Greek/romen model! Sexuality is a matter of position and power dynamics. Not sexual attraction.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 118d

The absurd byzantine rules people create for themselves around this shit is wild. Why can't humans just let people consensually fuck whomever they want?

yermaw@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 118d

So bizarre to me. If I were forced to choose "which is gayer" id say the top is the gayest position.

As a hetero id easily be able to take a cock up the ass to avoid getting sent to kill or die. I'd struggle quite a bit more to maintain an erection strong enough to go in a man. Especially with the context motivator in the back of my head.

Holytimes@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 118d

The majority of the world kinda still uses the old Greek model to some degree. Sexuality is determined by position and power dynamics not by attraction.

Attraction as a major factor is mostly new to a lot of cultures.

samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 40 pts · 119d (13 replies)

And the photos must show you as the passive partner

So I guess you and your partner have to switch positions and each have a photo to get out of it. No two for one!

AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 119d (8 replies)

You hear that?! It's only gay if your recieve so you can pound as many man-ass's your dick can handle!

AeonFelis@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 119d (2 replies)

Alternative explanation - the Turkish army is okay with gays as long as they are dominant.

Which... strangely makes sense.

desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 119d

even between heteronormative gays that logic is normal and that's why i despise them any time they belittle bottoms

nullify3112@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 119d

I mean we’re not going to explain bottom shaming to the Turkish military but the bottom does not have to be sub. Dom bottom is absolutely a thing.

Poojabber@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 119d (3 replies)

Historically speaking, this isnt wrong.... Im not a historian, but I think its recorded that alexander the great and Julius Ceasar were known to bang dudes, but it wasnt considered gay back then because giving dick wasnt gay, only receiving was...

fibojoly@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 118d (1 reply)

There is something about Caesar being mocked for being on the receiving end when he went to Asia Minor early in his career. Although that was probably slander, it shows this was viewed as a negative.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 118d

"No dudes are banging me, that's QUEER! I do all the banging around here, the rest of you are the Queers!"

NannerBanner@literature.cafe · 2 pts · 119d

Throw in that athenian politician who has a name I never remember... One of the 'charges' against him was that he was acting as a bottom despite being older. The athenian pederasty had the older man taking a younger man as 'appropriate,' while the reverse was viewed as scandalous.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 118d

Yeah, but I like girls. Will they let me out if I like ugly girls? Or fat ones? C'mon, this isn't fair. Gays get all the breaks.

frostysauce@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 119d (3 replies)

So I can't be gay if I'm the one sucking dick?

samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 119d

Not according to them!

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 118d

No, I think the dick SUCKER is the gay one. It would have to be the RECEPTIVE partner, not necessarily the active one.

Who's catching the cum? That's the gay one.

AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 118d

Of course not. What a ridiculous idea.

aurelar@lemmy.ml · 31 pts · 119d (10 replies)

So apparently tops aren't gay?

mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 119d (2 replies)

iirc greeks like Spartans looked at it this way. funny how people feel the need to make distinctions, we're a strange species.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 118d (1 reply)

Romans too. It wasn't a scandal that Julius Caesar was fucking men, it was a scandal that he was being fucked by men

mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 118d

cheeky bois

cheers_queers@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 119d

apparently it is a whole cultural thing. it ties in to why male homosexuality is talked about in the bible and lesbians were not. without an obvious "top" it wasnt worth discussing.

Xenny@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 119d (1 reply)

No no no no you misunderstand

Bottoms are women

Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 119d

:3

electric_nan@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 119d

Yeah this is what really stood out to me! Like wtf??

MML@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 119d (1 reply)

It's only gay if the penises touch.

harrison_fnord@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 117d

I thought one penis has to enter the other penis through the peephole.

lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 118d

Reminds me of "I'm straight so anyone that turns me on is a woman."

yogurtwrong@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 119d (3 replies)

I am a bisexual guy from Turkey, this is old news.

From what I heard these days you just go to a psychiatrist and act a bit gay. Then if the psych is not an asshole they give you something called "pink certificate" which makes you exempt from military service.

But like, I would give my nudes to the government if it means not doing military service. Nobody can make me serve for this (or any) country

My compulsory service is currently on hold because I am studying in university. Me and my boyfriend are planning to go the the military psychiatrist together to get pink certificates for both of us. Once we finish uni and gtfo of family home ofc

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 118d (2 replies)

Based (of you).

Does Turkey not allow for conscientious objection? Or is it just far too difficult to meet their standards?

yogurtwrong@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 118d

conscientious objection

In a country where saying anything bad to the flag is a crime, that is literal treason. You'll probably get your citizenship revoked just for asking

glory to the Turkish master race

yogurtwrong@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 118d
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finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 119d

Sounds like Turkish military recruiters have a bit of a fetish ...

baeb66@lemmy.today · 18 pts · 119d (1 reply)

The 301st Power Bottom Division was a decorated outfit before the Turkish military instituted this policy.

davepleasebehave@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 119d

they dictated the speed and intensity.

WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 17 pts · 119d (2 replies)

Of course the clerical class wants gay porn "for research purposes".

The all-holy ones, who only do holy things to their altar boys.

mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 119d

hey now, this is Turkey, not the Vatican.

Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 117d

Turkish government has a history of oppressing Kurdish clergy tbf.

grrgyle@slrpnk.net · 16 pts · 119d (6 replies)

What if you're not gay just a guy who likes having sex with men

desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 18 pts · 119d (2 replies)

you get news (ur gay)

SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 119d (1 reply)

It's not gay if the balls aren't touching

Someplaceunknown@leminal.space · 4 pts · 119d

It's not gay if you say "no homo" first

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 118d (2 replies)

That's the rationalization that MAGAs use to insist that Trump's and Roger Stone's political mentor, Roy Cohn wasn't gay, he just liked to sexually dominate young blond men. That's not gay at all, it's just a power thing.

BTW, just noting that both Trump and Stone were young blond men.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 118d (1 reply)

I'd always heard that he didn't consider himself homosexual because he argued homosexuals were weak people victimized by society, and he refused to see himself that way.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 118d

Sure, that makes sense. It has nothing to do with men playing with each others' weiners.

Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 119d (1 reply)

What kind of tax is this??

NannerBanner@literature.cafe · 5 pts · 119d

Blackmail tax, or 'we'll prosecute you under anti-gay laws or something later' tax.

cabillaud@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 118d (4 replies)

I'm not gay, but if taking a few pictures could spare me going to this madness that is military, i'm in!

starchylemming@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 118d (3 replies)

how deep inside your mouth are you willing to take it?

cabillaud@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 117d (2 replies)

What does that even mean?

starchylemming@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 117d (1 reply)

your task is taking a convincing picture doing homosexual acts in the passive position where your face is clearly visible

where do you draw the line?

cabillaud@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 117d

A line between what? And if I have to be in 'passive' position, why are you asking about dicks in my mouth?

charonn0@startrek.website · 9 pts · 119d (2 replies)

Joey, have you ever been to a Turkish recruitment office?

qbus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 119d

Your Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 118d

I enjoy every obligatory Airplane reference.

freely1333@reddthat.com · 9 pts · 119d

Boner spurs

Lj404333@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 119d

Can I charge them for my onlyfans account and they then get plenty prove of gay sex

spirinolas@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 118d (2 replies)

I suppose the guy checking the photos was exempt of proof.

TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 118d (1 reply)

I think there was an Iranian official working in their censorship board, who sent explicit messages to a young Iranian man telling him he wants to fuck him so hard.

spirinolas@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 118d

I'm not gay but I think if I saw so much gay porn daily I'd become at least a little gay.

njm1314@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 119d

Somewhere there is some prevented genius Turrk just getting away with it.

Kaput@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 119d

Turkish oïl wrestling...

neuromorph@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 118d

may i suggest they supply a chocolate mold of their assholes for evidence.

https://edibleanus.com/product/anus-casting-kit/

Raiderkev@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 119d
aheartoffire1996@thelemmy.club · 2 pts · 119d

WTF y'all be fucking creeps!