This must be why c-suites and investors are gung-ho on AI. It speaks the same vapid language lacking any true understanding and meaning. It is the Adam they made in their image.
Too late. Didn't have time to prep backup plan, clients all went AI.
Now I'm job hunting like a 15 years old trying to figure out what I can do with my skills now that everyone thinks they can be great at anything using Large lying models.
My service cost money and chatgpt was free. They all took the person that was interfacing with the multiple linguists and put that person in charge of asking the translations to chatgpt.
They lost in quality, quality control, cultural fitness of the message, creativity. But none of them cared and they just started pasting texts into chatgpt.
It's not just me either. Projects are multilingual so there can be dozens of translators working on a given project. We all tried to reason and explain why that was stupid as hell.
But money saved is money so they did it anyway.
Initially I tried looking for new clients but the once buzzing world of translation was a ghost town, no one was asking for translation services anymore.
Some people don't do AI for money, there's a subgroup that thinks they are helping by doing the prep work with AI so we can deliver to them faster .
That's easier to work with because they usually understand when we explain why it doesn't help at all.
Honestly, just wait. This happened to a lot of us in 2002 and 2008. It sucks, but they'll learn they can't do everything with AI and they'll SLOWLY hire people back. But it will take time.
job sites essentially made it very hard to find many jobs, i think because AI is being used in resume and screening by employers, its not getting any better. before that they were already doing something similar to AI to screen people out, AI just have more false positive, or if they made sure the AI would have denials.
That's also what I currently experience in my position. A lot of workflows are going to be automated by some AI stuff, but whenever someone is planning to produce physical goods in masses you can not effort doing stupid misstakes. When you simply put the output of the LLM in to the input of your CNC, Ion-Implanter, Litograph-Machine, Welding Robot, Aribag or Breaking systems. A mistake is going to be sooo fucking expensive that the human in the loop is not an cost factor anymore.
And when you do high precision stuff an approximate solution is never sufficient.
I always think years back when Jeep had to issue a recall for like 30k vehicles because a robot missed a fillet weld on a suspension component and QA missed every single one lmfao
In a way, LLMs have already taken my job as a software engineer. It's not that they can do my job better than me. But they suck all the joy out of the field, they expose the almost religious culture around efficiency and velocity in the field (no, i don't want to be 5% faster to make the boss richer and feel miserable doing it) and how little my peers care about craft and quality. Also why do those fucks have to lap up every new technofacist oligarchy thing with such enthusiasm, it pisses me off.
so it's not that it does my job, but that it showed me how much i disdain this field now.
I'm thinking of switching to something (cnc) machining/cad related, both skills i taught myself and love , but i don't know what kind of position could be suitable given my dev knowledge and lack of formal training. Plus i wouldn't want to do the operator kind of work where all you do is put stock in the cnc machine and execute someone elses CAM, that seems too close to using LLMs in spirit. I do want and like creative work and tinkering.
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and I'm lucky enough to work for a university, so good work life balance, job security, pension, mostly meaningful work. Ironically enough in the AI field… But that makes considering to switch even harder. I could easily and comfortably coast along and feel discontent for many years to come.
Agreed, I love programming and taking my time to think through problems before I code, but my God these casual AI users at work lap this shit up and can't be fucked spending an extra minute thinking before they write their code.
I work in cybersecurity. My job is in no danger. AI seems to be an expert in things until you start asking it questions about a subject you're an expert in. Then it all falls apart. Anyone who thinks they're using AI for cybersecurity or thinks AI can do cybersecurity knows nothing about cybersecurity.
The only people who would use AI for cybersecurity wouldn't hire a cybersecurity firm anyway but would instead ask their friend Bob who "knows computers" and would get roughly the same level of expertise as a result and feel just as happy about either.
Right now they're using it for attacks, so it's fighting itself lol. I fucking hate what AI has done to jobs, the environment, minds of people who use it. We spent a whole generation denying cookies, now we're giving our info away. Brainless morons.
Flint Michigan still has shit for water, but data centers are drinking up millions of gallons per day. I wanna see a ceo of any dc to drink a gallon of the water they say comes out clean for the environment.
And the noise destroying wildlife, people, permanent headaches. Wtf america. Money does not trump humanity.
Only since last year. 11 years of crisis, still 2 years before real progress started. What a failure of a state. So many felons from that case, absolutely trash people.
I have no doubt that it's a PR stunt not releasing this amazing thing that's so incredible they can't even show you! Their last code leak and showed brittle memory issues, AI generated functions with incredibly inefficient functions that appear to be designed to inflate API calls.
Open AI also immediately had a press release about another super secret project that they can't show you that they also somehow released 6 months ago. The one that was already released is also too dangerous to be released!
PR stunt after PR stunt. Just trying to drum up more investors.
To be fair, such bugs can easily be worth quite a bit more. If it can indeed automate finding RCEs and similar for everyone with a few $10k, then that's suddenly way more accessible than paying a guy in a basement somewhere a million in shitcoins for that RCE.
Maybe. But I am talking about both above the table and more shady government programs. Ever wonder where the guys at Pegasus and friends get their exploits from? They aren't all super great hackers, they buy a lot of stuff, or so I heard. After all, for someone without money, it is a hard decision to be paid a year's wages right now or to go the responsible disclosure route, and potentially get nothing.
And iirc the advertised price for juicy bugs in common platforms and apps was quite substantial. So, according to demand and supply, the price for such exploits was rather high, and is now significantly lower.
Serious question: Anyone seen a janitor robot running anywhere that wasn't constantly filthly?
I have only encountered janitor bots fighting in vain in places that have clearly gone decades (or one astonishingly abusive hour) without a successful cleaning.
There's all kind of dev work that needs to be done in industries that aren't "tech first", for example a industrial machine manufacture needs someone to program the robot arms and gui - ai doesn't know how the brand new machine works.
Commercial buildings have all kinds of systems; lighting controllers, audio systems, HVAC, networks, security systems and so on. All of that needs both someone to program the device (and firmware support) and someone to physically deploy and integrate those systems.
It's pretty hard to avoid corporate hell. Some people find success in smaller, well established, private companies. Less corporate nonsense, or at least HR knows your name and there's no investors demanding a mass-layoff.
My suggestion is to find something where you're on-staff for a company that exists outside of the "digital" realm.
There are lots of things you can do besides working in a corporate hell that you should consider before you get to suicide. You haven't even taken out a huge loan to start your own business yet.
I am studying CS. AI has already taken my job. I am glad to be studying CS anyway. I had a lot of anxiety about it early on and was bummed the fuck out, had to do some soul searching and remember why I chose CS in the first place. I like computers, I wanna know how they work. And I don't wanna let AI dumben me down and make me forget for the bubble will eventually pop.
Unless something revolutionary happens, AI is not taking your job anytime soon. This is just another wave of the tech sector trying to beat down developers because they don't want to pay them.
If current AI systems could actually replace people, the the job market would have already collapsed. Right now in the US the job market sucks because of Trumps policies and wars.
I’m fairly decent with mechanical work and I can work trades too.
But I won’t be doing that; if AI takes my job, it’s taken the economy and it’ll be a dystopia. I’ll be farming my back yard wishing it was big enough to sustain my family and knowing it’s not.
My main job it would be interesting.
I mainly plan for organisations how to handle disasters. Not necessarily IT disasters but actual one - what happens if your hospital is on fire, your airline has hundreds of people stranded somewhere (yeah, we had a bad time recently), your muncipial water supply goes bad, the Russians actually come,etc.
If AI can do that on a level it replaces my staff and me...well...good for everyone else,because right now it's a underdeveloped and rarely looked upon issue.
In my side job I am still working in my original trade as a critical care paramedic.
Until AI can fully replace one there it will take a long time (but we see a lof of actually beneficial developments that makes the job insanely more easy and capable) and I am very likely retired by then.
What is far more likely is that societies won't be able to pay for proper healthcare anymore...and that would be "not replaced" technically, I guess.
I'm very good at quickly sharpening knives and other blades. I'm sure I could have a decent side hustle with traveling and sharpening gravity fueled blades.
Get a mask, gloves, a stick welder, and some scrap steel for practice. You can learn it off of Youtube easily enough.
Just whatever you do, DON'T WELD GALGANIZED STEEL! The zinc evaporates into fumes and can get you very sick and possibly kill you. If you absolutely have to weld galvanized steel, do it outside with a fan blowing all the fumes down wind.
Skilled trades have been flushed with folks who are green and have no experience that they're becoming very competitive to secure an apprenticeship and long-term employment. It can be tough finding something in plumbing or electrical with no prior experience. Even moreso in the unions. If more office-level workers start getting laid off and start competing for those jobs, it'll be even harder to make the switch into something like that.
There's a massive shortage for skilled journeymen and people with lots of experience. I love electrical work to death, but I hear "I'll just be an electrician or plumber" a lot which grazes over the fact that any company training you is taking a hit for the first year or two of you working there.
I mean they're welcome here. We're desperate for workers and the only requirement is being alive and able to do repetitive tasks. Although some may not like the pay or location (middle of nowhere starting at $20/hr for 30-40 hours, not consistent, pay goes up after your first couple weeks a different amount depending on your department). You don't even gotta speak English.
I'm 6 years away from getting Social Security.. Which means I'll get to it about the time to see some billionaire buy another boat with what was left in the Social Security fund.
I wish my wife would be up for this, but I'm damn close to selling everything and buying a boat then fucking off to the south Pacific until I die. The problem is she gets motion sickness from standing still. She'd never be able to live on a boat.
I've thought about selling my house and everything I own and skipping off to the other side of the world too, haha. But I'm 33 and want to move to Australia and work as an electrician in the mines. It's 2 weeks on, 1 week off, they fly you in and out of the mines (FIFO), set you up with a free dorm, cafeteria, gym. We have a friend in Melbourne so we'd probably live there. The week off regularly sounds great if I wanted to hop around SE Asia and check out Vietnam for a week or something.
We currently live in Pittsburgh. I have a lot of experience in industrial electrical work and am fine with hard work and long 12 hour days over and over. But my future husband just works crappy food service jobs. He's been working in a commercial kitchen, basically just like a tiny factory for grab and go food for small businesses around town. Idk how feasible it is for someone like him to immigrate to Australia without any kind of marketable skills or whatever they look at. He dropped out of high school when he was a teenager.
There's no reason for that sort of planning, because AI can't do shit. Especially not reliably and dependably. The CEOs who claim to have replaced people are lying. A price explosion for LLMs is also necessarily coming, because currently they are all burning through privat equity funds like a strawfire.
They're laying people off and then bleeding money. Replacing people implies actually still making a pofit and remaining a viable business. That isn't happening. They are, as usual, sacrificing the future of each company, for a quick stock price boost.
I take solace in the fact that if my job got automated, a significant portion of the population would be in the same boat as me, so it wouldn't be purely up to me to work something out.
Yes, the focus should be on problem solving, thinking for yourself, navigating texts, etc. I don't want to issue them a tool to get a job done. I want them to build their own toolbox and decide for themselves what the best strategy is going to be.
Majority just see it as a obligation they have to suffer through and want the path of least resistance and effort. The vast majority of human beings are allergic to learning and think it's painful and miserable.
And then you have the minority of students who embrace learning, and the minority who actively reject it.
Looks like a lot of people are going with "denial". Not a good plan.
My personal plan is to have spent the last twenty years saving intensively for retirement, which looks like it's a good plan for me but is not something that can be started right now by others.
So I'm not really sure what to recommend. Try to get ready for a period of unemployment and hopefully things will stabilize quickly enough that a new career path will become evident? Getting started on a new one right now might not be a good idea if things will change drastically over the next few years and potentially eliminate that too, so just build up savings and resources as best you can I guess. Research unemployment benefits ahead of time so you'll know what to do if something happens without warning.
Denial of a prediction from the same techbros who said bitcoins would replace dollars and banks, or NFTs would be used for real estate,.or napster would launch the careers of new musicians, or.you wouldnt need a printer anymore,.or computers would lead to a.three day workweek,isn't exactly Luddites complaining about weaving machines.
If LLMs are still economical after the bubble pops they'll be tools that increase efficiency and in some cases help one human do your job and someone else's. Which was exactly the trend for all jobs before the AI bubble started.
A lot of people realize that AI isn't going to take that many jobs, and it's just a paranoid talking point.
I use AI tools in my job... the vast majority of them constantly break and who has to fix that? Me. They break themselves with feature updates...
the AI panick is just fear of automation. automation often produces different kinds of jobs while it reduces others. also it increases throughput, meaning you need more workers.
Automation reduces repetitive common tasks. It always fails when a task is outside the average range. The more complex a task, the lower the probability is to achieve successful automation.
What the techbros and billionaires don't understand is that most jobs that exist today are because of their difficulty in automating already. Seemingly simple jobs have hidden complexity.
Since my job is highly complex, non-repetative, with a very high degree of non-recorded specialized knowledge, my fear of a LLM replacing me approaches zero.
Ironic: the same troll (Facedeer) complained people were too paranoid about job loss:
I think the online rhetoric around AI has been way more apocalyptic than the more vague and abstract political stuff... All jobs will be taken away and everyone will be reduced to serfs or killed as surplus population? Drum that into a sufficiently mentally fragile subset of the population long and hard enough and you'll get them worked up enough to feel like they need to strike first.
But what's a troll without inconsistent rhetoric...
AI can't do my job. For the very least it needs a physical body to go along with it.
However, as I work in the trades my jos is probably among the last ones to go. Once that happens there's no need for human labour anymore so I'll probably just retire then.
I don't think AI will take a lot of jobs. It could happen but I don't see it.
Even before AI these things could happen. I just watched a documentary on lighthouse keepers and the disappearance of their job because of automation and LED lights. When I was a kid, well before "AI", they were telling us that computers amd automation would take most of the jobs.
Translators would be a thing of the past! Yet, machine translation still sucks. Sure it reduced the amount of translators needed, but they're still needed. AI translation can't even make the difference between a common and proper noun. It's making slop.
I work in tech support and customer support. I've been told many times that automation and AI would take my job, but so far computers are bad at that. I have scripted myself out of certain tasks at work much before any AI could do it, and it just freed me and my coworkers for other tasks. A big part of my work is understanding what people want and what went wrong, and AI is absolutely not there yet.
Although I can see the effect it has on the industry and job market as enthusiasts are trying to push it everywhere they can, I doubt it will replace lots of work. AI can be a good assistant and help on some tasks, but it still can't read a piece of paper properly. It's not even good for data entry.
All those "AI will replace a lot of jobs" claims are exaggerating. Sure, it will happen for a few people in small numbers, slowly. But not like what tech bros are predicting.
What has been happening is they use AI to fire 2000 people, but then they want to re-hire 1500 of them as contractors at a higher pay rate... but w/o benefits which greatly reduces costs for the company.
It's really just being used as leverage to dis-empower labor, esp in sectors where labor is paid 'too much'. The tech sector massively over-hired and is still over-employed, hence why most of the news you hear is about tech company layoffs, as all their projections on pandemic-level growth ground to a halt once the pandemic was over in 23/24.
And yeah, most of it is media hype, because it freaks people out and gets them anxious and talking and eyes glued to screens and listening to talking heads endlessly bullshit about AI when they know next to nothing about it. For most people AI is a form of magic, like any technology.
And then you have the evangelists and the luddites on either side fanning the flames in their own ways, who claim AI will be mankind's salvation, or it's destruction...
Reality is it's just the next 'big thing'. it will fade into the background like all the 'big things' before it. We'll have all these data centers doing lots of computing and all it will functionally end up being is just a major upgrade of a computing capacity. The question really is what will we do with it, will it be used productively, or will it just be used to flood the internet with endless bullshit. As if people themselves don't already produce enough bullshit.
Then again, people's capacity for consuming bullshit... is pretty infinite as we have seen from the rise of social media, influences, and podcasting. If you told anyone 15 years ago people would spend 8 hours a day listening to weirdos bullshit on the internet, they'd have thought you were nuts.
Slop generators cannot truly replace very many jobs. They can however give your boss an excuse to fire you and enshittify their own company. And most bosses will take that trade if offered. When people say AI is stealing their job, they mean it gave their boss an excuse to fire them. Not that they've truly been made redundant.
When people tell you that AI will (or already does) take a lot of jobs, it's not necessarily implied that it's good enough to replace humans. Just that it is sold well enough to the people who make those decisions.
I've already started production on a line of (still in stealth mode). I think I can do enough in sales - both direct to consumer and wholesale to shops - to patent it and then cover my mortgage and other bills. And hey, if AI doesn't take my job, maybe I'll finally get out of debt. Of course it could fail and I'll be out the seed money, but I'll also have hundreds of (product) to remind me of my shame, so, whatever.
I'm not convinced that there's enough training data for it to be good in my specialization anytime soon. And it certainly won't be trusted for safety critical applications even if that were to happen.
That being said I'm very, very, glad to not be in CS or law where there is nearly endless data to train on.
TLDR: I think AI is coming for teaching (for better or worse), but not coming to replace us, because the teacher:student ratio is already as poor as can be.
I'm a teacher. Giving a serious answer, AI is likely going to be very involved in this industry over the next decade, purely for it's ability to track and scaffold individual learning better than one adult doing the same for 30 people, but that would require a shift to even more digital learning, which takes the "how" of teaching out of the hands of a teacher in a way it currently is not.
That said, I don't actually think it's coming for my job precisely because there is 1 teacher to every 30 students. If you compare us to how cashiers have been replaced by self service tills, teachers have already been stripped to a minimal coverage of the classroom, and you cannot have 30 students independently working, because children and teenagers are predominantly motivated to avoid working. I'm this regard, it can only supplement our job, as they can't meaningfully cut the adult to student ratio further for safety reasons.
Also, although I think it'll start to be seen in the next 10 years, I'm not sure where it would come in. State schools do not have the budget, energy or time to experiment with individualised AI learning support, and private schools prefer to maintain older styles of teaching for a long time, as they prioritise the development of attitude and trust over academic scores as not only does it supplement academic scores, but it is what the corporate employers of privately educated students seek above merit.
AI sorta did already via layoff. My plan is to pivot to the arts and open a theater with my partner in a few years. Til then, it's back to the job board.
It will still take long until it would be able to take my job fully, but if it really were to. Charity work, cook (that might robots), museum, or actually go to uni and become a teacher ig lol
Even though it will be some time until an AI could do all of what my job requires I'm already training as a dressmaker and tailor. And I'm already forging myself a reputation at being good sharpening high end scissors.
The problem is that there are no industries or jobs that are entirely safe in the long term. Yes white collar jobs are most at risk at the moment, but I see no reason to believe manual labor wouldn't be at risk after 5-10 years. I literally don't know what we are supposed to do?
I'd imagine what the Zuckerbergs and Musks of the world want for us is to just die. Once they can automate all of their needs they have no use for the rest of humanity. They couldn't possibly care any less if we all died of starvation, they would be ecstatic over the newly available property wherever they want
AI can't run wires, but it certainly can diagnose problems. Focus on the install work fam. I'm in the security game and while I'm close to aging out of install work, ChatGPT can't put a multimeter on the wire. Yet.
I'm not sure I can agree with that. If you give enough inputs, the results while not guaranteed can put you in the right direction. I know AI doesn't think but the millions of people who it was trained on did, and it's just echoing their responses anyway. So you're right, it can't diagnose, but thousands of people already did and its weights in training will drive it to give similar answers.
Are you imagining that we will get UBI? Cuz I think we are many decades out from that being realistic. I don't have savings to survive 10 years without a job.
If AI takes my job it's already taken everyone else's job. So non I guess.
Seriously though if it gets to that point, and I don't think it will I think AI is overhyped, governments are going to have to either put up or get lynched.
I don't believe that will happen permanently.
I'm a Sysadmin currently working in client support I don't think ai will drive around town and fix laptops for the clients bit if it ever does AI still needs servers to run on.
Also something with Wood maybe?
Or like other IT jobs, there will be less admin as companies expect the workload for say 5 people can trim down to 2 pax with AI-assisted tools. But I'm not expert to say if that will really work.
On the other hand we asked an LLM last week how many full time employees it would take to manage everything we're doing and the result was 6-8. We currently have more like 2.5 with 1.5 coming. So at least AI believes we need more rather than less employees.
What, they are coming for EE now? Fuck. I thought I was safe for a while on the basis of "surely they won't have the hallucination machine design and test the multi-million $ project"
anyone who thinks their job is safe vastly underestimates the stupidity of greedy rich fucks running their company.
they don't give a fuck if it's illogical, as long as it looks good on paper.
personally, I'll go out and steal some land in a national forest. build a house, small garden, hunt. oh yeah, I'll never use or see modern technology again. I'll be perpetually stuck in the late 90s at the most recent.
Eventually something will have to give when companies continually get fucked in the ass by breaches and downtime caused by vibe code piling up. We're already starting to see the cracks.
Tbh, if I thought that I couldn't get another job I'd just buy some land and start homesteading. I work in an office, but I'm also no stranger to manual labor
Have and AI work for me and make all the money I guess. If its was impossible for me to find another job then the model of work and living wages would need to change anyways. There would need to be universal basic income for the unemployed masses.
The point of life isn't really work so as long as everyone can afford to live there are plenty of things I would like to do
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SailorFuzz@lemmy.world · 113 pts · 118d
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 118d
BORTLES!
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 118d
"everything is brighter with a molotov cocktail" - i learned that today
TabbsTheBat@pawb.social · 83 pts · 118d
Take the AI's job. I can spout misinformation to morons too
acchariya@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 118d
Hey some of us have made a whole career of this and we didn't need ai to do it
LordMayor@piefed.social · 6 pts · 118d
This must be why c-suites and investors are gung-ho on AI. It speaks the same vapid language lacking any true understanding and meaning. It is the Adam they made in their image.
GalacticSushi@piefed.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 118d
You guys are getting paid?
chocrates@piefed.world · 72 pts · 118d
Natal@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 118d
Too late. Didn't have time to prep backup plan, clients all went AI. Now I'm job hunting like a 15 years old trying to figure out what I can do with my skills now that everyone thinks they can be great at anything using Large lying models.
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 118d
What did you do that all your clients went to AI?
Natal@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 117d
My service cost money and chatgpt was free. They all took the person that was interfacing with the multiple linguists and put that person in charge of asking the translations to chatgpt.
They lost in quality, quality control, cultural fitness of the message, creativity. But none of them cared and they just started pasting texts into chatgpt.
It's not just me either. Projects are multilingual so there can be dozens of translators working on a given project. We all tried to reason and explain why that was stupid as hell.
But money saved is money so they did it anyway.
Initially I tried looking for new clients but the once buzzing world of translation was a ghost town, no one was asking for translation services anymore.
Some people don't do AI for money, there's a subgroup that thinks they are helping by doing the prep work with AI so we can deliver to them faster . That's easier to work with because they usually understand when we explain why it doesn't help at all.
neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 118d
Honestly, just wait. This happened to a lot of us in 2002 and 2008. It sucks, but they'll learn they can't do everything with AI and they'll SLOWLY hire people back. But it will take time.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 117d
job sites essentially made it very hard to find many jobs, i think because AI is being used in resume and screening by employers, its not getting any better. before that they were already doing something similar to AI to screen people out, AI just have more false positive, or if they made sure the AI would have denials.
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 50 pts · 118d
sando_en_shorts@piefed.world · 3 pts · 118d
dad, is that you?
johsny@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 118d
No way AI will get to the point where it can steal catalytic converters.
tristynalxander@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 118d
KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works · 30 pts · 118d
Start a new career fixing all the fuckups made by AI. If you think vibe coding is dangerous, try vibe machining
MatSeFi@lemmy.liebeleu.de · 6 pts · 118d
That's also what I currently experience in my position. A lot of workflows are going to be automated by some AI stuff, but whenever someone is planning to produce physical goods in masses you can not effort doing stupid misstakes. When you simply put the output of the LLM in to the input of your CNC, Ion-Implanter, Litograph-Machine, Welding Robot, Aribag or Breaking systems. A mistake is going to be sooo fucking expensive that the human in the loop is not an cost factor anymore. And when you do high precision stuff an approximate solution is never sufficient.
KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 118d
I always think years back when Jeep had to issue a recall for like 30k vehicles because a robot missed a fillet weld on a suspension component and QA missed every single one lmfao
Big_Boss_77@fedinsfw.app · 4 pts · 118d
I want a recording of those expensive noises
JustTesting@lemmy.hogru.ch · 25 pts · 118d
In a way, LLMs have already taken my job as a software engineer. It's not that they can do my job better than me. But they suck all the joy out of the field, they expose the almost religious culture around efficiency and velocity in the field (no, i don't want to be 5% faster to make the boss richer and feel miserable doing it) and how little my peers care about craft and quality. Also why do those fucks have to lap up every new technofacist oligarchy thing with such enthusiasm, it pisses me off.
so it's not that it does my job, but that it showed me how much i disdain this field now.
I'm thinking of switching to something (cnc) machining/cad related, both skills i taught myself and love , but i don't know what kind of position could be suitable given my dev knowledge and lack of formal training. Plus i wouldn't want to do the operator kind of work where all you do is put stock in the cnc machine and execute someone elses CAM, that seems too close to using LLMs in spirit. I do want and like creative work and tinkering.
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and I'm lucky enough to work for a university, so good work life balance, job security, pension, mostly meaningful work. Ironically enough in the AI field… But that makes considering to switch even harder. I could easily and comfortably coast along and feel discontent for many years to come.
blackbirdbiryani@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 118d
Agreed, I love programming and taking my time to think through problems before I code, but my God these casual AI users at work lap this shit up and can't be fucked spending an extra minute thinking before they write their code.
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 118d
Aaaah a collegue. Same experience here
HexesofVexes@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 117d
Take a 6 month vacation and then negotiate double my pay when they frantically try to rehire me.
pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 117d
This, exactly!
I'll accept a substantial ownership stake in the whole place, in exchange for making a leasurely attempt to pull their asses out of the fire.
Saprophyte@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 118d
I work in cybersecurity. My job is in no danger. AI seems to be an expert in things until you start asking it questions about a subject you're an expert in. Then it all falls apart. Anyone who thinks they're using AI for cybersecurity or thinks AI can do cybersecurity knows nothing about cybersecurity.
The only people who would use AI for cybersecurity wouldn't hire a cybersecurity firm anyway but would instead ask their friend Bob who "knows computers" and would get roughly the same level of expertise as a result and feel just as happy about either.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 118d
Right now they're using it for attacks, so it's fighting itself lol. I fucking hate what AI has done to jobs, the environment, minds of people who use it. We spent a whole generation denying cookies, now we're giving our info away. Brainless morons.
Flint Michigan still has shit for water, but data centers are drinking up millions of gallons per day. I wanna see a ceo of any dc to drink a gallon of the water they say comes out clean for the environment.
And the noise destroying wildlife, people, permanent headaches. Wtf america. Money does not trump humanity.
https://youtu.be/m7_WDzPyoqU
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/with-ai-on-the-rise-what-will-be-the-environmental-impacts-of-data-centers-180987379/
https://stpp.fordschool.umich.edu/sites/stpp/files/2025-07/stpp-data-centers-2025.pdf
https://www.eesi.org/articles/view/data-centers-and-water-consumption
percent@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 116d
Flint's water is okay now
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 116d
Only since last year. 11 years of crisis, still 2 years before real progress started. What a failure of a state. So many felons from that case, absolutely trash people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_water_crisis
65gmexl3@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 117d
What can you say about Mythos?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crk1py1jgzko
Saprophyte@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 117d
I have no doubt that it's a PR stunt not releasing this amazing thing that's so incredible they can't even show you! Their last code leak and showed brittle memory issues, AI generated functions with incredibly inefficient functions that appear to be designed to inflate API calls.
Open AI also immediately had a press release about another super secret project that they can't show you that they also somehow released 6 months ago. The one that was already released is also too dangerous to be released!
PR stunt after PR stunt. Just trying to drum up more investors.
https://www.sabrina.dev/p/claude-code-source-leak-analysis
ozymandias117@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 117d
Not to mention the Mythos red team report claims, even at the currently subsidized inference prices, it cost over $20,000 to find that OpenBSD bug
LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 116d
To be fair, such bugs can easily be worth quite a bit more. If it can indeed automate finding RCEs and similar for everyone with a few $10k, then that's suddenly way more accessible than paying a guy in a basement somewhere a million in shitcoins for that RCE.
Saprophyte@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 116d
Or more likely, bounty programs will be shut down because of dealing with AI slop flooding their systems.
https://www.theregister.com/2026/01/21/curl_ends_bug_bounty/
LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 115d
Maybe. But I am talking about both above the table and more shady government programs. Ever wonder where the guys at Pegasus and friends get their exploits from? They aren't all super great hackers, they buy a lot of stuff, or so I heard. After all, for someone without money, it is a hard decision to be paid a year's wages right now or to go the responsible disclosure route, and potentially get nothing.
And iirc the advertised price for juicy bugs in common platforms and apps was quite substantial. So, according to demand and supply, the price for such exploits was rather high, and is now significantly lower.
itkovian@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 118d
AI cannot take my job because I am already jobless.
crimson_iris@piefed.social · 15 pts · 118d
Just watch, they'll figure out a way to get AI to do that poorly too.
itkovian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 118d
AI already does that, well enough. It is probably, difficult for it to be useless poorly.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 118d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Idle_Process
Shotgun_Alice@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 118d
Revolt until I get ubi or we seize the means of production.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 14 pts · 118d
If AI takes my job, then either everyone is fucked or we moved into a post-scarcity economy and the world is that futuristic utopia from the meme.
(I'm a janitor)
CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 117d
Do all the robots that can clearly do janitorial work not worry you?
pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 117d
Serious question: Anyone seen a janitor robot running anywhere that wasn't constantly filthly?
I have only encountered janitor bots fighting in vain in places that have clearly gone decades (or one astonishingly abusive hour) without a successful cleaning.
CodenameDarlen@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 118d
helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 118d
There's all kind of dev work that needs to be done in industries that aren't "tech first", for example a industrial machine manufacture needs someone to program the robot arms and gui - ai doesn't know how the brand new machine works.
Commercial buildings have all kinds of systems; lighting controllers, audio systems, HVAC, networks, security systems and so on. All of that needs both someone to program the device (and firmware support) and someone to physically deploy and integrate those systems.
It's pretty hard to avoid corporate hell. Some people find success in smaller, well established, private companies. Less corporate nonsense, or at least HR knows your name and there's no investors demanding a mass-layoff.
My suggestion is to find something where you're on-staff for a company that exists outside of the "digital" realm.
Resources in The United States
988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline 9-8-8 https://988lifeline.org/
Veterans Crisis Line 9-8-8, Press 1 https://www.veteranscrisisline.net/
Crisis Text Line Text HOME to 741741 https://www.crisistextline.org/
TrevorLifeline 1-866-488-7386 (for LGBTQ youth) https://www.thetrevorproject.org/
Trans Lifeline 1-877-565-8860 (for the transgender community) https://translifeline.org/
(copied from duckduckgo)
Not mentioned is 911, if you're actively considering something call them too.
man_wtfhappenedtoyou@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 118d
There are lots of things you can do besides working in a corporate hell that you should consider before you get to suicide. You haven't even taken out a huge loan to start your own business yet.
Aneb@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 118d
Can I clarify that this isn't an endorsement for taking out a loan
pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 117d
bizarroland@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 118d
I know the addresses of several billionaires, and I am not too good to commit cannibalism
blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 118d
What does that have to do with OP's scenario?
bizarroland@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 118d
If I cannot afford cake, I will eat the rich.
blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 116d
Ok but why wait
WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 118d
I am studying CS. AI has already taken my job. I am glad to be studying CS anyway. I had a lot of anxiety about it early on and was bummed the fuck out, had to do some soul searching and remember why I chose CS in the first place. I like computers, I wanna know how they work. And I don't wanna let AI dumben me down and make me forget for the bubble will eventually pop.
jacksilver@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 118d
Unless something revolutionary happens, AI is not taking your job anytime soon. This is just another wave of the tech sector trying to beat down developers because they don't want to pay them.
If current AI systems could actually replace people, the the job market would have already collapsed. Right now in the US the job market sucks because of Trumps policies and wars.
YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 117d
The Winchester.
tiramichu@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 117d
It might have to be more than one pint
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 118d
I’m fairly decent with mechanical work and I can work trades too.
But I won’t be doing that; if AI takes my job, it’s taken the economy and it’ll be a dystopia. I’ll be farming my back yard wishing it was big enough to sustain my family and knowing it’s not.
privsecfoss@feddit.dk · 9 pts · 118d
It won't, so none
philpo@feddit.org · 8 pts · 117d
Depends.
My main job it would be interesting. I mainly plan for organisations how to handle disasters. Not necessarily IT disasters but actual one - what happens if your hospital is on fire, your airline has hundreds of people stranded somewhere (yeah, we had a bad time recently), your muncipial water supply goes bad, the Russians actually come,etc.
If AI can do that on a level it replaces my staff and me...well...good for everyone else,because right now it's a underdeveloped and rarely looked upon issue.
In my side job I am still working in my original trade as a critical care paramedic. Until AI can fully replace one there it will take a long time (but we see a lof of actually beneficial developments that makes the job insanely more easy and capable) and I am very likely retired by then. What is far more likely is that societies won't be able to pay for proper healthcare anymore...and that would be "not replaced" technically, I guess.
user1234@fedinsfw.app · 8 pts · 118d
Change my name to John Connor
Tudsamfa@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 117d
AI so shit it comes for my unemployment...
one_old_coder@piefed.social · 8 pts · 118d
Weep. Try something closely related with some paid training. In a few years, get more money to fix all the crap that AI has done.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 118d
I'm very good at quickly sharpening knives and other blades. I'm sure I could have a decent side hustle with traveling and sharpening gravity fueled blades.
man_wtfhappenedtoyou@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 118d
What are gravity fueled blades?
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 118d
It's a popular French blade popular during the 1780's.
man_wtfhappenedtoyou@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 118d
Oh my goodness
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 117d
Same as my retirement plan. Make billionaires afraid.
sickday@fedia.io · 7 pts · 118d
Pick up something else like a trade. Would be a great excuse to pick up electric engineering or carpentry
Big_Boss_77@fedinsfw.app · 4 pts · 118d
Always said I'd love to learn to weld for real... would be as good a reason as any
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 118d
Get a mask, gloves, a stick welder, and some scrap steel for practice. You can learn it off of Youtube easily enough.
Just whatever you do, DON'T WELD GALGANIZED STEEL! The zinc evaporates into fumes and can get you very sick and possibly kill you. If you absolutely have to weld galvanized steel, do it outside with a fan blowing all the fumes down wind.
Big_Boss_77@fedinsfw.app · 1 pts · 118d
Oh no, I can weld, everything but TIG... I'm just a farm welder, learned functional welding to fix stuff but never learned "propper" techniques.
treadful@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 118d
See, this is the kind of thing that a class might teach, though.
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 117d
I don't recall my high school ag class tesching this tbh
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 117d
dont you mean electrician? electrical engineering should require college course work.
Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 118d
I'll be a plumber. Try taking that one.
octobob@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 118d
Skilled trades have been flushed with folks who are green and have no experience that they're becoming very competitive to secure an apprenticeship and long-term employment. It can be tough finding something in plumbing or electrical with no prior experience. Even moreso in the unions. If more office-level workers start getting laid off and start competing for those jobs, it'll be even harder to make the switch into something like that.
There's a massive shortage for skilled journeymen and people with lots of experience. I love electrical work to death, but I hear "I'll just be an electrician or plumber" a lot which grazes over the fact that any company training you is taking a hit for the first year or two of you working there.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 118d
advocate for socialism which i have been doing for years.
Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 118d
I work at a slaughterhouse so not sure if AI can replace me. Bots most likely could, but I feel like they would have by now if they were gonna.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 118d
yeah but the trouble is also that if other jobs close down, people are gonna push into your field and take up the jobs too
Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 118d
I mean they're welcome here. We're desperate for workers and the only requirement is being alive and able to do repetitive tasks. Although some may not like the pay or location (middle of nowhere starting at $20/hr for 30-40 hours, not consistent, pay goes up after your first couple weeks a different amount depending on your department). You don't even gotta speak English.
Canopyflyer@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 118d
I'm 6 years away from getting Social Security.. Which means I'll get to it about the time to see some billionaire buy another boat with what was left in the Social Security fund.
I wish my wife would be up for this, but I'm damn close to selling everything and buying a boat then fucking off to the south Pacific until I die. The problem is she gets motion sickness from standing still. She'd never be able to live on a boat.
CaptainBlinky@lemmy.myserv.one · 2 pts · 118d
Dramamine works a charm.
octobob@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 118d
I've thought about selling my house and everything I own and skipping off to the other side of the world too, haha. But I'm 33 and want to move to Australia and work as an electrician in the mines. It's 2 weeks on, 1 week off, they fly you in and out of the mines (FIFO), set you up with a free dorm, cafeteria, gym. We have a friend in Melbourne so we'd probably live there. The week off regularly sounds great if I wanted to hop around SE Asia and check out Vietnam for a week or something.
We currently live in Pittsburgh. I have a lot of experience in industrial electrical work and am fine with hard work and long 12 hour days over and over. But my future husband just works crappy food service jobs. He's been working in a commercial kitchen, basically just like a tiny factory for grab and go food for small businesses around town. Idk how feasible it is for someone like him to immigrate to Australia without any kind of marketable skills or whatever they look at. He dropped out of high school when he was a teenager.
nightlily@leminal.space · 7 pts · 117d
Guillotine maintenance.
starlinguk@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 118d
I work for the army. AI is a security risk.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 118d
I mean probably no more of a security risk than the head of the Department of WAR and the rest of Whiskey Leaks's entourage.
iamericandre@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 118d
Boat mechanic
MagicShel@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 118d
Smart thinking, since the only people with money will be living on boats anchored just outside Molotov range.
chocrates@piefed.world · 6 pts · 118d
A trebuchet can launch a 90kg projectile over 300 meters
pdxfed@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 118d
African or European projectile?
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 118d
what difference does that make?
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 118d
If you have a cat named Princess Donut, I don't know if you're lucky or unfortunate
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 117d
There's no reason for that sort of planning, because AI can't do shit. Especially not reliably and dependably. The CEOs who claim to have replaced people are lying. A price explosion for LLMs is also necessarily coming, because currently they are all burning through privat equity funds like a strawfire.
quips@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 117d
Bro have you looked around? Its already happening.
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 116d
The price explosion? Yeah it has started for some of them. Anthropic seems to be the first.
pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 117d
They're laying people off and then bleeding money. Replacing people implies actually still making a pofit and remaining a viable business. That isn't happening. They are, as usual, sacrificing the future of each company, for a quick stock price boost.
slazer2au@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 118d
Watch the internet break. Good luck talking to your cloud hosted AI agent when your internet is offline.
Big_Boss_77@fedinsfw.app · 2 pts · 118d
A magical rainbow tree root wrangler?
SwifferWetjet@thelemmy.club · 6 pts · 118d
Ecoterrorism til death. Lol. Such a funny joke.
SarahFromOz@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 118d
There is no backup plan. We are in trouble.
I guess the backup plan is OnlyFans or something?
Mpatch@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 118d
Yeah... with all that a.i porn only fans is on the chopping block.
daggermoon@piefed.world · 5 pts · 117d
die
Kennystillalive@feddit.org · 5 pts · 118d
Start my Guillotine selling start up. They will be quiet in trend when that time comes.
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 118d
I take solace in the fact that if my job got automated, a significant portion of the population would be in the same boat as me, so it wouldn't be purely up to me to work something out.
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org · 5 pts · 118d
I am smart, and I am always right.
Therefore AI cannot take my job.
MagicShel@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 118d
I see you are vying for AI's job. Speaking bullshit with confidence is always in demand. Just... normally in sales, not implementation.
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org · 3 pts · 118d
LOL
sexy_animal_fucker@kbin.melroy.org · 5 pts · 118d
Set up a tent near the petting zoo and live there
Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 118d
I work in data protection and governance.
I'll be the poor sod behind the scenes trying to stop it taking over. I already insisted that the words
"AI must not be used to make decisions" was inserted into the AI and data protection policies.
Which means I'm probably marked for extermination when it takes over.
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 118d
Turn the tables and LARP as an AI myself!
https://youraislopbores.me/
muxika@piefed.muxika.org · 4 pts · 118d
If AI takes over my field (education), we are truly fucked.
I guess I'd try out a personal business of making home servers for people who want to start their own businesses.
AskewLord@piefed.social · 4 pts · 118d
education is in flux.
some places are going anti-tech, like no screens at all.
others are pushing AI-literary graduation requirements.
and nobody seems to want to actually education anyone anymore because education is not really just job-training rather than education.
muxika@piefed.muxika.org · 5 pts · 118d
Yes, the focus should be on problem solving, thinking for yourself, navigating texts, etc. I don't want to issue them a tool to get a job done. I want them to build their own toolbox and decide for themselves what the best strategy is going to be.
AskewLord@piefed.social · 3 pts · 118d
Yeah, but the students don't want to do that.
Majority just see it as a obligation they have to suffer through and want the path of least resistance and effort. The vast majority of human beings are allergic to learning and think it's painful and miserable.
And then you have the minority of students who embrace learning, and the minority who actively reject it.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 117d
plus teachers are not putting up with the bs anymore, they are quitting in droves, leaving huge areas "undereducated".
JoeKrogan@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 118d
Try find another job.
HrabiaVulpes@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 118d
AI was supposed to take my job last month, last year, last decade...
bufalo1973@piefed.social · 4 pts · 117d
What job?
FaceDeer@fedia.io · 4 pts · 118d
Looks like a lot of people are going with "denial". Not a good plan.
My personal plan is to have spent the last twenty years saving intensively for retirement, which looks like it's a good plan for me but is not something that can be started right now by others.
So I'm not really sure what to recommend. Try to get ready for a period of unemployment and hopefully things will stabilize quickly enough that a new career path will become evident? Getting started on a new one right now might not be a good idea if things will change drastically over the next few years and potentially eliminate that too, so just build up savings and resources as best you can I guess. Research unemployment benefits ahead of time so you'll know what to do if something happens without warning.
DomeGuy@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 118d
Denial of a prediction from the same techbros who said bitcoins would replace dollars and banks, or NFTs would be used for real estate,.or napster would launch the careers of new musicians, or.you wouldnt need a printer anymore,.or computers would lead to a.three day workweek,isn't exactly Luddites complaining about weaving machines.
If LLMs are still economical after the bubble pops they'll be tools that increase efficiency and in some cases help one human do your job and someone else's. Which was exactly the trend for all jobs before the AI bubble started.
AskewLord@piefed.social · 3 pts · 118d
A lot of people realize that AI isn't going to take that many jobs, and it's just a paranoid talking point.
I use AI tools in my job... the vast majority of them constantly break and who has to fix that? Me. They break themselves with feature updates...
the AI panick is just fear of automation. automation often produces different kinds of jobs while it reduces others. also it increases throughput, meaning you need more workers.
The_v@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 118d
Automation reduces repetitive common tasks. It always fails when a task is outside the average range. The more complex a task, the lower the probability is to achieve successful automation.
What the techbros and billionaires don't understand is that most jobs that exist today are because of their difficulty in automating already. Seemingly simple jobs have hidden complexity.
Since my job is highly complex, non-repetative, with a very high degree of non-recorded specialized knowledge, my fear of a LLM replacing me approaches zero.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 117d
Currently AI is a buzzword and excuse to lay people off, i think that has always been the plan.
XLE@piefed.social · 2 pts · 118d
Ironic: the same troll (Facedeer) complained people were too paranoid about job loss:
But what's a troll without inconsistent rhetoric...
emotional_soup_88@programming.dev · 4 pts · 118d
Prison guard, street musician, postperson, caregiver
yoyoyopo5@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 118d
Prison, eating and sleeping on the taxpayer’s dime.
Master@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 118d
death
MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 118d
Suicide. Kidding. Might make a game.
tristynalxander@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 118d
sando_en_shorts@piefed.world · 2 pts · 117d
Whichever comes first
Iconoclast@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 118d
AI can't do my job. For the very least it needs a physical body to go along with it.
However, as I work in the trades my jos is probably among the last ones to go. Once that happens there's no need for human labour anymore so I'll probably just retire then.
VibeSurgeon@piefed.social · 3 pts · 117d
I've saved a lot of money and I have income insurance coverage for a bit over a year. This combined should keep me afloat for a long time
anon_8675309@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 118d
Starve
pedz@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 118d
I don't think AI will take a lot of jobs. It could happen but I don't see it.
Even before AI these things could happen. I just watched a documentary on lighthouse keepers and the disappearance of their job because of automation and LED lights. When I was a kid, well before "AI", they were telling us that computers amd automation would take most of the jobs.
Translators would be a thing of the past! Yet, machine translation still sucks. Sure it reduced the amount of translators needed, but they're still needed. AI translation can't even make the difference between a common and proper noun. It's making slop.
I work in tech support and customer support. I've been told many times that automation and AI would take my job, but so far computers are bad at that. I have scripted myself out of certain tasks at work much before any AI could do it, and it just freed me and my coworkers for other tasks. A big part of my work is understanding what people want and what went wrong, and AI is absolutely not there yet.
Although I can see the effect it has on the industry and job market as enthusiasts are trying to push it everywhere they can, I doubt it will replace lots of work. AI can be a good assistant and help on some tasks, but it still can't read a piece of paper properly. It's not even good for data entry.
All those "AI will replace a lot of jobs" claims are exaggerating. Sure, it will happen for a few people in small numbers, slowly. But not like what tech bros are predicting.
AskewLord@piefed.social · 9 pts · 118d
AI is an excuse to reduce costs.
What has been happening is they use AI to fire 2000 people, but then they want to re-hire 1500 of them as contractors at a higher pay rate... but w/o benefits which greatly reduces costs for the company.
It's really just being used as leverage to dis-empower labor, esp in sectors where labor is paid 'too much'. The tech sector massively over-hired and is still over-employed, hence why most of the news you hear is about tech company layoffs, as all their projections on pandemic-level growth ground to a halt once the pandemic was over in 23/24.
And yeah, most of it is media hype, because it freaks people out and gets them anxious and talking and eyes glued to screens and listening to talking heads endlessly bullshit about AI when they know next to nothing about it. For most people AI is a form of magic, like any technology.
And then you have the evangelists and the luddites on either side fanning the flames in their own ways, who claim AI will be mankind's salvation, or it's destruction...
Reality is it's just the next 'big thing'. it will fade into the background like all the 'big things' before it. We'll have all these data centers doing lots of computing and all it will functionally end up being is just a major upgrade of a computing capacity. The question really is what will we do with it, will it be used productively, or will it just be used to flood the internet with endless bullshit. As if people themselves don't already produce enough bullshit.
Then again, people's capacity for consuming bullshit... is pretty infinite as we have seen from the rise of social media, influences, and podcasting. If you told anyone 15 years ago people would spend 8 hours a day listening to weirdos bullshit on the internet, they'd have thought you were nuts.
bionicjoey@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 118d
Slop generators cannot truly replace very many jobs. They can however give your boss an excuse to fire you and enshittify their own company. And most bosses will take that trade if offered. When people say AI is stealing their job, they mean it gave their boss an excuse to fire them. Not that they've truly been made redundant.
TheV2@programming.dev · 1 pts · 118d
When people tell you that AI will (or already does) take a lot of jobs, it's not necessarily implied that it's good enough to replace humans. Just that it is sold well enough to the people who make those decisions.
urheber@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 117d
I habe no job
turtlesareneat@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 118d
I've already started production on a line of (still in stealth mode). I think I can do enough in sales - both direct to consumer and wholesale to shops - to patent it and then cover my mortgage and other bills. And hey, if AI doesn't take my job, maybe I'll finally get out of debt. Of course it could fail and I'll be out the seed money, but I'll also have hundreds of (product) to remind me of my shame, so, whatever.
fiendishplan@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 117d
Wander the American South West, having adventures like Kane in Kungfu.
COASTER1921@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 117d
I'm not convinced that there's enough training data for it to be good in my specialization anytime soon. And it certainly won't be trusted for safety critical applications even if that were to happen.
That being said I'm very, very, glad to not be in CS or law where there is nearly endless data to train on.
Khrux@ttrpg.network · 3 pts · 117d
TLDR: I think AI is coming for teaching (for better or worse), but not coming to replace us, because the teacher:student ratio is already as poor as can be.
I'm a teacher. Giving a serious answer, AI is likely going to be very involved in this industry over the next decade, purely for it's ability to track and scaffold individual learning better than one adult doing the same for 30 people, but that would require a shift to even more digital learning, which takes the "how" of teaching out of the hands of a teacher in a way it currently is not.
That said, I don't actually think it's coming for my job precisely because there is 1 teacher to every 30 students. If you compare us to how cashiers have been replaced by self service tills, teachers have already been stripped to a minimal coverage of the classroom, and you cannot have 30 students independently working, because children and teenagers are predominantly motivated to avoid working. I'm this regard, it can only supplement our job, as they can't meaningfully cut the adult to student ratio further for safety reasons.
Also, although I think it'll start to be seen in the next 10 years, I'm not sure where it would come in. State schools do not have the budget, energy or time to experiment with individualised AI learning support, and private schools prefer to maintain older styles of teaching for a long time, as they prioritise the development of attitude and trust over academic scores as not only does it supplement academic scores, but it is what the corporate employers of privately educated students seek above merit.
Saprophyte@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 117d
I read this the other day. Seemed pretty depressing. I feel bad for the kids who are the guinea pigs here.
https://blockclubchicago.org/2026/03/25/an-ai-elementary-school-with-no-teachers-to-open-in-chicago-this-fall/
decended_being@midwest.social · 3 pts · 118d
Die
Kissaki@feddit.org · 2 pts · 116d
I am confident it won't take my job. I don't have a backup plan.
squinky@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 118d
Violence
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 118d
AI sorta did already via layoff. My plan is to pivot to the arts and open a theater with my partner in a few years. Til then, it's back to the job board.
starlinguk@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 118d
That sounds fun (not the layoff, of course).
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 118d
It will still take long until it would be able to take my job fully, but if it really were to. Charity work, cook (that might robots), museum, or actually go to uni and become a teacher ig lol
RottenHeads@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 118d
Get a gun and rob.
quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 118d
Even though it will be some time until an AI could do all of what my job requires I'm already training as a dressmaker and tailor. And I'm already forging myself a reputation at being good sharpening high end scissors.
murmelade@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 118d
Sabotage USA.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 2 pts · 118d
kinda already has. or at least IT hiring seems to be anemic. I really have no plan but keep trying and hoping.
AskewLord@piefed.social · 2 pts · 118d
Get another job
jerebear39@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 110d
Becoming a mason or going into private therapy practice
Soulcreator@programming.dev · 2 pts · 118d
The problem is that there are no industries or jobs that are entirely safe in the long term. Yes white collar jobs are most at risk at the moment, but I see no reason to believe manual labor wouldn't be at risk after 5-10 years. I literally don't know what we are supposed to do?
Asafum@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 118d
I'd imagine what the Zuckerbergs and Musks of the world want for us is to just die. Once they can automate all of their needs they have no use for the rest of humanity. They couldn't possibly care any less if we all died of starvation, they would be ecstatic over the newly available property wherever they want
Twinklebreeze@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 118d
I climb and trim trees for a living. I'd love to see AI or a robot do my job. I really would, too, but I don't think it will happen soon.
Soulcreator@programming.dev · 2 pts · 118d
So you're saying we all need to learn to trim trees as a backup plan?
Codpiece@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 118d
I’m going to become a live organ donor.
ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 118d
AI can't physically run wires, or diagnose problems. I'm good
CaptainBlinky@lemmy.myserv.one · 2 pts · 118d
AI can't run wires, but it certainly can diagnose problems. Focus on the install work fam. I'm in the security game and while I'm close to aging out of install work, ChatGPT can't put a multimeter on the wire. Yet.
ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 117d
AI doesn't think. It can't diagnose. It can suggest things to try. That's not diagnosing.
CaptainBlinky@lemmy.myserv.one · 1 pts · 109d
I'm not sure I can agree with that. If you give enough inputs, the results while not guaranteed can put you in the right direction. I know AI doesn't think but the millions of people who it was trained on did, and it's just echoing their responses anyway. So you're right, it can't diagnose, but thousands of people already did and its weights in training will drive it to give similar answers.
ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 108d
And then it needs someone to implement those answers. And confirm that it is the correct answer. Again something that it can't do.
lennee@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 118d
writing a book, gardening and learning the drums
chocrates@piefed.world · 2 pts · 118d
Are you imagining that we will get UBI? Cuz I think we are many decades out from that being realistic. I don't have savings to survive 10 years without a job.
echodot@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 116d
If AI takes my job it's already taken everyone else's job. So non I guess.
Seriously though if it gets to that point, and I don't think it will I think AI is overhyped, governments are going to have to either put up or get lynched.
mr_anny@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 118d
AI can't take my job.
titanicx@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 118d
If it takes my job. Then the Chinese Tesla bots have taken over and we are already living in a great society, or we are all poor fucks
the_grass_trainer@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 117d
Become a streamer
somenonewho@feddit.org · 1 pts · 117d
I don't believe that will happen permanently. I'm a Sysadmin currently working in client support I don't think ai will drive around town and fix laptops for the clients bit if it ever does AI still needs servers to run on. Also something with Wood maybe?
65gmexl3@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 117d
Or like other IT jobs, there will be less admin as companies expect the workload for say 5 people can trim down to 2 pax with AI-assisted tools. But I'm not expert to say if that will really work.
somenonewho@feddit.org · 3 pts · 116d
On the other hand we asked an LLM last week how many full time employees it would take to manage everything we're doing and the result was 6-8. We currently have more like 2.5 with 1.5 coming. So at least AI believes we need more rather than less employees.
vaionko@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 117d
It already did before I even got a chance to get it.
At least I have a farm job that won't be replaced by AI but that's pretty far from my EE studies
ADTJ@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 117d
EE?
vaionko@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 117d
As was said, electrical engineering. Getting my bachelor's degree in a year or so.
65gmexl3@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 117d
Electrical
LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 116d
What, they are coming for EE now? Fuck. I thought I was safe for a while on the basis of "surely they won't have the hallucination machine design and test the multi-million $ project"
vaionko@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 114d
Not EE directly that much, AI stuff has made the whole job situation quite bad.
9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 118d
Live off the gains from my AI stocks
/s
Beth@piefed.social · 1 pts · 118d
Become a paid online troll I guess. I have a background in manipulation. And if they get so far as my field, we are truly in the bad place.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 118d
anyone who thinks their job is safe vastly underestimates the stupidity of greedy rich fucks running their company.
they don't give a fuck if it's illogical, as long as it looks good on paper.
personally, I'll go out and steal some land in a national forest. build a house, small garden, hunt. oh yeah, I'll never use or see modern technology again. I'll be perpetually stuck in the late 90s at the most recent.
blackbirdbiryani@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 118d
Eventually something will have to give when companies continually get fucked in the ass by breaches and downtime caused by vibe code piling up. We're already starting to see the cracks.
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 118d
Tbh, if I thought that I couldn't get another job I'd just buy some land and start homesteading. I work in an office, but I'm also no stranger to manual labor
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 117d
the datacenters likely will cost AI to much to maintain before that happens.
timestatic@feddit.org · 0 pts · 117d
Have and AI work for me and make all the money I guess. If its was impossible for me to find another job then the model of work and living wages would need to change anyways. There would need to be universal basic income for the unemployed masses.
The point of life isn't really work so as long as everyone can afford to live there are plenty of things I would like to do