Modder releases PS5-Linux that turns the console into a fully functional Linux gaming PC
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Modder-releases-PS5-Linux-that-turns-the-console-into-a-fully-functional-Linux-gaming-PC.1284961.0.html
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105 Comments
harcesz@szmer.info · 181 pts · 98d
Math was never my strongest point, but something doesent add up here.
mrmaplebar@fedia.io · 104 pts · 98d
Made sense to the LLM!
roofuskit@lemmy.world · 78 pts · 98d
The world without editors.
imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 29 pts · 98d
There are editors. It is just an Ai chat bot 🤷
roofuskit@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 98d
So worse than no editor.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 98d
Think of it like a toddler.
The first 9 months, it's not even an infant yet. Then boom, you get a baby. 6 months of development later you have a 6 month old toddler. But process started 15 months ago.
harcesz@szmer.info · 7 pts · 97d
Yes, that would make sense, if not for the "started experimenting" part. I do understand the process here, its just that the writing is nonsensical (or AI).
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 97d
It makes sense...
Just not to you...
Now that I've explained it, you agree that it can be taken that way, but still because you didn't immediately take it the intended way, you see fault with the writing.
That is a very bad attitude to have.
Not immediately understanding what someone means is normal,happens to everyone.
But if after someone explains it in a way you get, doubling down that the writer was at fault aost guarantees you're going to keep having this problem.
You cant force everyone everywhere to communicate in a way that you immediately get, you have to work on being able to view something multiple different ways and identifying thru context what was meant.
Like, just for purely selfish reasons, you want to be able to understand others
No1@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 97d
If there are multiple ways it can be interpreted, it's poorly written
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 97d
If you think anything can only be interpreted one way, there's a lot you're not getting
No1@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 97d
No.
harcesz@szmer.info · 2 pts · 96d
Yeah, I needed your explanation. I just could not conceive another interpretation, and choose to reject it. Without your guidance I could not into English dear sir! Thank you for your selfless benevolent assistance!
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 96d
Right on, kind of still sounds sarcastic, but I'll chalk that up to language issues.
Have a good one
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 98d
Plus, since consoles age must faster than humans, we have to convert time into "console years" which passes at a rate of 7 console years for every 1 human year. Therefore the "months of development" is accurate.
Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio · 10 pts · 97d
He's really fucking fast you see.
kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 97d
2 months is still "months" isn't it?
harcesz@szmer.info · 5 pts · 97d
But it's 1,5 months.
kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 96d
That's right, months
NekoKoneko@lemmy.world · 120 pts · 98d
https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5_Jailbreak/comments/1fhlyjt/guide_to_find_the_firmware_version_of_a_sealed/
Based on this list, it looks like you have to be sitting on a 2022 or earlier non-updated PS5 to have a chance at the 4.51 or lower firmware to use this. A chance it'll open up to other firmwares and as said maybe there's a limited functionality 5.xx exploit on the horizon, but just a bit of reality before you get too excited.
Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 98d
Didn't the PS5 boot signing keys leak recently? The word when that happened was that it blew PS5 modding wide open in a way that couldn't be closed without new hardware, though I guess publishing anything that used Sony's key would have their lawyers after you real quick.
forwhomthecattolls@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 97d
I wonder what would happen if people started mass posting the key like they did with the DVD DRM keys back in the day, though I'm sure the industry would be much more aggro these days
kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 97d
Ooh, that might mean that I can pick up a Pro down the line and mod that too.
aviationeast@lemmy.world · 102 pts · 98d
Like the orginal PS3?
SpikesOtherDog@ani.social · 65 pts · 98d
Like the original PS2?
tidderuuf@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 98d
Like the original PS1?
violentfart@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 98d
Like the original?
RaoulDuke85@piefed.social · 21 pts · 98d
Like
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world · 73 pts · 98d
and subscribe
X@piefed.world · 18 pts · 98d
Have you ever? Let us know in the comments! We wanna hear from you!
FauxLiving@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 98d
This hack brought to you by Raid: Shadow Legends and NordVPN
fartographer@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 98d
Ring that fucking bell and smash the shit out of that like button. May God have mercy on your mouse.
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 98d
Me, looking over at my mouse in its cage while I sit at my laptop: 🤔
Canuck@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 98d
don't forget to hit that 🔔 button and drop a 🗨️ below
uselessartifact@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 96d
decreasingly verbose
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 98d
Like?
Butterphinger@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 98d
cloooooone
SpikesOtherDog@ani.social · 7 pts · 98d
Every time I think I know something.
zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 98d
PS4 crying in a corner
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 98d
The ps5 is much closer to a traditional PC than the PS3 which was a totally different design. There’s enough different with how the PS5 was designed that it isn’t a traditional PC but Linux is so versatile it can pretty much bridge that gap.
Which has me wondering if a PS5 is the cheapest desktop out there right now.
Buffalobuffalo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 74 pts · 98d
Well gotta turn off auto updates immediately.
Edit: by immediately I mean years ago, apparently.
Jimbabwe@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 98d
Good thing mine has been unplugged ever since I realized a docked steam deck paired with ps5 controllers was a way better experience than using the PS5 anyway
plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works · -16 pts · 98d
Ah yes games meant to play 720 looks great on a 4k tv…
ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net · 28 pts · 98d
Me, still playing 480p Wii games on my modded Wii with an old ass 1080p TV, having a blast
RedMari@reddthat.com · 11 pts · 98d
This is the way.
plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 97d
Sure, but that’s not better than playing games in 4k now is it? Yes it’s fun, but it’s objectively not “better”.
ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 96d
I personally think there's a law of diminishing returns with things like graphics and resolution, and as technology advances, what used to be good or even amazing becomes our baseline as expectations shift.
Somewhat related to that, I'd also say there's merit in sometimes analyzing if our chase for 'better' is truly bringing us enough value to warrant the downsides it brings. As an example, the market's desire for the new and novel, for better graphics, for higher resolutions, feeds into a consumer culture that brings with it a tremendous amount of greenhouse emissions to produce and ship all those new consoles and higher resolution monitors/TVs, environmental destruction to mine the raw materials for them, exploitation of third world workers to gather those materials and assemble them into those products, products which as the OP points out, are increasingly user hostile and enshittified alongside those better graphics.
When looked at objectively, a Wii is a comparatively low resolution, but it is also widely available used (so while it did initially contribute to the downsides I mentioned above when new, as a used object on a second-hand market, it does not), and despite that lack of resolution, still brings with it the capability of giving us great fun, which is ultimately the reason we want to experience them, is it not? And due to its age, it has no enshittification whatsoever, the user completely owns the experience.
But that's just my 2 cents.
ollie@pawb.social · 2 pts · 95d
preach brother, still playing wii and wii u games, it brings‎ me joy
SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 98d
plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 97d
And wouldn’t a ps5 be better though? Of course you can have fun, but it’s an objectively worse machine.
SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -1 pts · 97d
plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 97d
Compared to a steam deck? That’s not even close to being true.
The original comment compared it to a ps5, not a wii, not a ps4. Keep on topic.
SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 97d
conartistpanda@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 97d
Why are you being booed? You make a point.
plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 97d
Because people don’t want to comprehend that a 720p machine won’t ever be better than something that can do 4k. They just want to be bitter.
A Wii isn’t better than a ps5 that’s just asinine.
conartistpanda@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 96d
Bad comparison. A wii and a PS5 run very different software, unlike a Steamdeck and a PC
FippleStone@aussie.zone · 0 pts · 97d
It's not better, it's just different
Jimbabwe@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 95d
Well yeah, I should note that my TV isn’t 4k and the games I play aren’t typically resource heavy. I’m talking about the overall user experience of being able to sleep/suspend quickly, go offline easily, the sense of ownership and control over the OS, and seamless handoff between the deck and my more serious gaming PC in my upstairs office. There’s a lot more to the UX than resolution and/or frame rate. I typically don’t even care as long as it’s 720p or better.
Velypso@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 98d
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RogueBanana@piefed.zip · 6 pts · 98d
If it was on, I assume it is already updated to 5.x which patched the vulnerability. But if it is 4.x then you're in luck.
UntitledQuitting@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 96d
I immediately blocked my ps5 from the internet when the Rom keys got leaked, but I too fear it was already too late
daggermoon@piefed.world · 49 pts · 98d
If I install Linux on a PS5, can I use the Blu-ray drive as a PC optical drive to rip DVD's and shit?
kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 97d
I doubt it, but if so, maybe you can do UHD Blu-Rays too, since the PS5 can handle those.
LifeLikeLady@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 98d
This, this is why my PS5 has been offline and waiting for hacks'
kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 97d
This is not even close to the reason that my PS5 has been offline, but it's super neat and probably means we're close to piracy.
LifeLikeLady@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 97d
Well the real reason is I built a PC and gave Sony the finger for jacking the price of premium. Again.
Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 96d
You and I are much alike, kinsman.
eleijeep@piefed.social · 21 pts · 98d
https://github.com/ps5-linux/ps5-linux-loader
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 20 pts · 98d
I wonder how it compares to the steam machine.
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social · 19 pts · 98d
Well, you can get the hardware now for one.
Would be an interesting comparison once it does release though. Especially for a price/performance comparison now that Sony increased PS5 pricing.
ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml · 19 pts · 97d
Well, that's pretty exciting. My PS5 is already on the latest firmware though lol
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 6 pts · 97d
Can we not, like... Factory reset these things to roll back to whatever was installed when it was purchased? 🤔
semperverus@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 97d
Thats called a downgrade attack and is explicitly blocked by most modern security models that are not a PC.
FatVegan@leminal.space · 11 pts · 97d
That's insane
semperverus@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 97d
Is it?
As a malicious actor or red-team player, I would want to get you on as old of an OS as I could in order to exploit a wider range of CVEs. Or in most cases, one would be hunting for a specific set of CVEs. Once I've got you on the version I want, I can then perform other attacks and ensure that they run.
The iPhone, many Android phones, some network equipment, and game consoles all have eFuses that burn when you perform an update, and the specific number or pattern they burn in is used to determine the lowest OS version your device is allowed to be on in order to stop this from happening.
neclimdul@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 96d
I mean, my phone has all sorts of private and confidential information and is regularly in hostile environments where attackers might get physical access to it. Kinda want the best, most hardened security posture.
My Playstation sits in my living room and has my gaming history and access to my games...
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 2 pts · 96d
It could also have your credit card info if you've set it up for the store. Which I imagine most people do, since many games don't even get physical copies made anymore.
neclimdul@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 96d
Ive worked with ecommerce enough to not store my card anywhere. Also pretty sure they'd store it in the cloud so could max it out in the store and I could claim the fraud.
But if your in my living room thinking, I'm going to sit down and hack his Playstation to get his credit card... Don't know man, seems there's better plans.
FippleStone@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 97d
It is indeed, such is the state of the industry
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 96d
Most consoles, if not all, have electronic fuses that are embedded inside chips that they intentionally blow out with each firmware update that prevent them from rolling back to older versions.
Rubanski@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 96d
Are you serious? Wtf
flubba86@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 96d
Yes, it's a common practice that's been done right back to PS2 and Xbox360 days.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 96d
Because it's still their console, even though you paid for it. They are just graciously letting you use it as long as you stay profitable to them.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 3 pts · 96d
lmao
evidences@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 98d
I can't wait for bringus studios to release a video where he games on a PS5.
SillyDude@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 98d
He essentially did. He did that one build with one of those ps5 reject boards. Based off that I assumed the ps5 could run standard Linux but I haven't cared about consoles and modding in a very long time.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 11 pts · 98d
With hardware prices being what they are is this actually a good deal?
Beangut@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 98d
I would personally try to go for a BC-250 blade setup, less performance but roughly half the cost of a secondhand ps5 (in Aus at least) and still capable of modern gaming
I suppose that also depends on time invested tinkering and sourcing components for the BC-250 like an ssd, enclosure and psu
BigTurkeyLove@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 98d
Fml, my ps5 is up to date. Maybe I can try and buy an old one and sell mine.
frightful5680@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 98d
Is it cost effective?
saltesc@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 98d
If you can pick up a second-hand PS5, possibly. Obviously is if you already own one and wanna Proton it.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 97d
If the jailbreak method ever works on whatever the current firmware is, I'll probably go ahead and do it to mine.
CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca · -5 pts · 98d
Isn't the PS5 already a fully functional gaming computer?
PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 98d
To access most of the internet you must pay a subscription. Plus the games you buy on the ps5 can't be put on any other device.
I know this because I bought baldurs gate and Helldiver's, and had to purchase them again on steam.
A ps5 and most consoles are a sunk-cost-fallacy machine.
TheBlackLounge@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 98d
The fact that steam games are cross platform is because you buy a license. Very rarely a cd-rom would have Mac and Windows in one, but in that regard desktops were mostly like consoles not so long ago.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 98d
You always only buy a license. Get a crack, then you own the game.
TheBlackLounge@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 97d
True but you can do that for consoles too (PS5 not yet), and this issue isn't what makes them not a full PC.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 98d
The hardware is sold under value, by having the games more expensive. And if you've got the console, you're locked in, don't have a choice.
Just like printers, actually.
Species8472@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 98d
Mindblown.
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 97d
PSN required to play online games. Ongoing subscription, not cheap. So no, not fully functional, except as a pickpocket.
Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 97d
Never bought a PS5, and def don't plan on ever buying a console ever again. Long live emulators! Fuck you nintendo!!!