Edit: You people are insane with these downvotes. Russia invaded Ukraine on February 24, 2022. Look at a graph of gas prices and see what happened right after that. The war in Ukraine was directly responsible for the gas price spike in 2022
I didn't down vote you but, want to address your edit. You are absolutely right that war in Ukraine contributed to the price. And you are right that this spike had not much to do with the economy, but keep in mind that the restrictions were lifted I think in February as well pretty much simultaneously in all countries.
During restrictions people traveled less, so the demand for oil was lower, so in 2020 oil fields reduced output.
Now restrictions were lifted so demand increased, sanctions on Russia were imposed so demand on Persian Gulf also increased.
It takes few months to restart production from oil wells that were shut down, and then there's also few weeks delay as the tankers are transporting the oil.
Do you have a source on Feb '22 being some kind of turning point regarding covid restrictions? Having lived through COVID as a healthcare worker, I recall the timeline pretty acutely, and my memory is lockdowns were almost universally over by summer '20, the first vaccines were administered on a large scale in December '20, and activity increased progressively throughout 2021.
Meanwhile, the gas price spike occurred immediately after Russia invaded Ukraine, and concerns about oil supplies were plastered all over the financial news of the day
I remember, because all the conspiracy nuts were using it as an example that restrictions were bogus ("see? Covid was fake, as soon as we started they lifted all restrictions")
I think many people also forgot truckers in Canada blocking border transit demanding lifting restrictions. It was fun because when it started Canada already announced the date their restrictions will be lifted.
Frankly that whole thing smelled like Russian psyop (not only it started right before invasion, about restrictive that already were planned to be lifted, but also it's goal was to disrupt important supply chain and even tried to cause unrest (when someone tried to start a fire that could burn alive some residents as the person also locked exits)
Well, Biden did blow up a pipe line that supplied Russian gas to Europe. He also did nothing to improve the horrible situation in Venezuela that Trump started. He actually just doubled down on it.
Not on the level of what Trump has done. But every US president is consistently working to ensure US oligarchs have control of the oil supply. And that doesn't always mean literally stealing oil. It's more about control.
Sometimes that brings domestic gas prices down. Sometimes it makes them go up. Sometimes that means blowing up pipelines. Sometimes that means kidnapping a countries elected leader.
The president WANTS domestic gas prices to be low. It helps their approval ratings and party elections. But, the president is subject to the wishes of the oil and war oligarchs. And they are fucking thirsty right now.
Edit: I've broken through with a positive upvote (for now) making a comment about Democrats and Bidens failures to combat Trump. I have faith in you Lemmy.
The price spike under Biden was more the orange kid-diddler's doing. Threatening to without military funding for Saudi Arabi unless they cut down on oil output during COVID. Which when supply chains were firing back up under Biden they had t ramped production back up yet. Biden got blamed for some he had nothing to do with. Aka the repugnican method.
Bidens biggest failures were not undoing a lot of the things Trump did in his first term.
I think it was a false belief in that the US should remain consistent and not back peddle on bad policies. So, instead of working with Iran to restore the JCPoA (that they continued to abide by via the UN) he continued to push sanctions. Similar situation with Venezuela. Hell, he even kept a lot of Trump's awful border policy. He absolutely failed in restoring faith in America, on the world stage, after Trump's first term. He needed to push hard in the opposite direction and have actual material changes that Trump (or any Republican) could not undo again.
Now, one could say this is because they didn't think they would lose again to Trump. But, that, in itself, was also a major failure for Biden/Harris. They had no major material improvements to point to as an achievement.
I do believe they honestly tried, but the damage done was not something which could easily be solved in a weekend. I even said in arguments that most of his first term would be trying to repair the US's reputation on the world stage which he did make strides at. But as for passing anything, Moscow mitch even openly said that they'd fight against everything they could just to make Biden look like he wasn't capable of new laws or policy.
The first things Biden had on his plate when he took office were dealing with COVID to get the country and economy running again, fallout from the January 6th insurrection, and the time bomb of the military withdraw from Afghanistan.
Tbh Biden did set himself up for trouble on gas prices specifically. He had that make Saudi Arabia a pariah initiative he was giving speeches on when he first got elected, it was going OK while the US held the cards… but after the Ukraine war started and the supply was reduced, gas prices became a giant glowing weak spot that the Saudis could vengefully mash just in time for mid-terms. Biden recognized the danger then and visited hat in hand to ask for forgiveness and more production, but it was too late after making very public positions and statements that the Saudis REALLY didn’t like at all so the trip didn’t amount to much other than embarassing news articles about him crawling back to the guy he had been calling a murderer.
I've actually replied to emails saying "it took you more time and effort to ask me to ask someone this question than it would have been to just ask them yourself"
Good job vandalizing the gas station of someone that just trying to run a business and has to clean up after your safe rebellion. You’re really sticking it to the man there.
I saw someone used duct tape on the little vent that houses the speakers on one of these. It actually almost completely blocked out the sound. Whoever did that fucks
They could just leave it there as it's not hurting their business and is also true.
And remember, property destruction as a form of protest has a long a storied history that generally works far more effectively than marches or rallies and is part of the escalation of the protest process if The People are ignored. It gets far worse so they should take it seriously and listen/act on the concerns of the protestors. They wouldn't like what comes next.
$3.99 USD per gallon is about $1.43 CAD per litre. I weep, lol. I'm paying $1.96 CAD per litre (about $5.41 USD per gallon). I'm in Alberta, we grow it here. That's relatively cheap compared to some other provinces 😭
Edit: Don't take those numbers as gospel. I'm scrolling on the can, so it may not be my best math.
I wouldn't call it lucking out but a couple weeks ago I was hitting the store midday and saw 1 station had jumped to $4.29. a couple blocks later I saw 2 stations still had it at 3.89 so I immediately filled up. Within a couple days it had already jumped to somewhere around 4.50 and days later it's at 4.99.
Yeah - prices vary a lot. Especially with state gas taxes. Texas hasn't increased its tax on gas in over 30 years, for instance. As a percentage, they're barely a quarter today what they were when I was first driving.
It's almost like El Taco heard about people trying to explain that the president wasn't actually capable of affecting gas prices and went "hold my beer McD's".
You’re right, I think we've finally surpassed Thomas Jefferson at this point, though I suspect TJ’s rape and pedophilia are still mostly danced around when people talk about Sally Hemings (who was 14-16 years old and a peer to his daughter when it began, while Jefferson was in his mid forties).
Currently about 605 yen ($3.90 USD) in (rural) Japan. That only seems cheap in dollars because the yen has tanked in the past few years. 5 years ago when there were somewhat similar gas prices it would've been about $5.75
So you can't compare it before and after the Trump-israel-Iran War (i called like this cause i noticed the USA dosn't wanted this war at all) cause your currency value changed that much?
So these days I'm seeing 154 yen per liter on the low end, and in 2019 I also saw about that price. But right now 1 USD is 156 yen, but in 2019 it was only worth around 105 to 110.
I mean that's an insane percentage increase. My bro in Berlin (I'm in London) was saying they've seen 50% but you guys win! In the UK we're at about 10% increase since the Israel/US/Iran war
The US uses a slightly different Octane rating system that averages slightly lower than the more common RON. The system they use averages RON with MON which is measured under different engine conditions. The pump is labeled with (R+M)/2 to indicate this in the image. According to Wikipedia, 88 is equivalent to 95 RON.
The US uses a weird mix of RON and MON ratings (printed on the buttons) - 88 on their rating would be 91 RON, which is still very low for more modern engines, but not gut-wrenching at least.
In Canada, The United States, and Mexico, the advertised octane rating is the average of the RON and the MON, called the Anti-Knock Index (AKI). It is often written on pumps as (R+M)/2. AKI is also sometimes called PON (Pump Octane Number).
Because of the 8 to 12 octane number difference between RON and MON noted above, the AKI shown in Canada and the United States is 4 to 6 octane numbers lower than elsewhere in the world for the same fuel.
There's a table in the wiki article that shows the equivalence of different systems
There's two primary ways to measure octane. RON and MON. Most countries pick one- specifically RON. The US and Canada average the two, for some reason.
We all knew the type of degenerate losers who put up the Biden "I did that stickers" were just partisan hacks who would (and largely do not) feel the same way now that Trump actually has directly impacted fuel prices. That was always part of the reason people rolled their eyes every time we saw one.
Over here in Spain (where almost everything is pretty much cheap) gas is ~9$usd/gallon
Heard a friend in Germany (whom also doesn’t drive (anymore)) say it’s minimum ~11$usd/gallon over there
(Edit: we did the math to convert from €eur/Liter to $usd/gal and rounded to closest .50¢ (both were rounded down lol) it’s not average for the entire countries just the two prices for where we live and our friend lives)
Anywho it’s gone up that’s for sure but we’re not heavily impacted
Unfortunately the cheapest I ccould find yesterday was $5.15 per gallon (they limit you to 10 gallons). Most of them around me are $5.50+ with 2 being well over $6 per gallon ($6.19 and $6.29).
Those are for regular, I haven't even checked premium prices locally.
The other answers are correct but also for the record, I don’t think you can buy pre-mixed leaded gasoline anywhere in the US (maybe on a private racetrack?). You have to buy the lead and mix it in yourself.
I think before the war kicked off it was averaging $3.50 a gallon (3.78L) and now is averaging about $4.50. American mongo cars use a lot more petrol but it's not taxed nearly as high as they're a fuel producer.
Meanwhile after emergency tax cuts here it's running about €1.83 a litre or $8.30 a gallon for unleaded or near $10 for diesel.
Ah, that makes sense, although I'm surprised they didn't call it "E15". I think in my area they don't bother with it because regular unleaded is already "up to 10% ethanol" anyway, so it'd only be a 5% difference and that's not worth taking a slot on the pump.
See comment by Random Stickman, different standard systems give different octane numbers for the same fuel. Edit: according to the Wikipedia chart, the RON of that "Regular Unleaded" would be 91-92. That 87 on the pump is the RON minus the MON, divided by 2 to give the AKI.
The RON of US Premium is 96-98, is that closer to your European number?
As for prices, I live in California where Regular is currently $6.50 near me. Some of the difference from OP's prices is state and local taxes that go towards things that benefit me, some is because our gas has to be formulated to reduce smog. Which also benefits me.
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danc4498@lemmy.world · 115 pts · 109d
Sad thing is he absolutely did do that. Unlike Biden who was blamed for the chaos that came from the pandemic.
protist@retrofed.com · -9 pts · 109d
*war in Ukraine
Edit: You people are insane with these downvotes. Russia invaded Ukraine on February 24, 2022. Look at a graph of gas prices and see what happened right after that. The war in Ukraine was directly responsible for the gas price spike in 2022
takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 108d
Both, supply issues causes by economy restarting from covid as well as was in Ukraine that putin started.
Ironically that also supposed to be very quick as the one with Iran.
protist@retrofed.com · 1 pts · 108d
The sudden spike in prices that immediately followed Russia invading Ukraine had almost nothing to do with the economy
takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 108d
I didn't down vote you but, want to address your edit. You are absolutely right that war in Ukraine contributed to the price. And you are right that this spike had not much to do with the economy, but keep in mind that the restrictions were lifted I think in February as well pretty much simultaneously in all countries.
During restrictions people traveled less, so the demand for oil was lower, so in 2020 oil fields reduced output.
Now restrictions were lifted so demand increased, sanctions on Russia were imposed so demand on Persian Gulf also increased.
It takes few months to restart production from oil wells that were shut down, and then there's also few weeks delay as the tankers are transporting the oil.
I think both contributed to the spike.
protist@retrofed.com · 1 pts · 108d
Do you have a source on Feb '22 being some kind of turning point regarding covid restrictions? Having lived through COVID as a healthcare worker, I recall the timeline pretty acutely, and my memory is lockdowns were almost universally over by summer '20, the first vaccines were administered on a large scale in December '20, and activity increased progressively throughout 2021.
Meanwhile, the gas price spike occurred immediately after Russia invaded Ukraine, and concerns about oil supplies were plastered all over the financial news of the day
takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 107d
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/19/us/covid-mandates-vaccine-indoor-dining/
I remember, because all the conspiracy nuts were using it as an example that restrictions were bogus ("see? Covid was fake, as soon as we started they lifted all restrictions")
I think many people also forgot truckers in Canada blocking border transit demanding lifting restrictions. It was fun because when it started Canada already announced the date their restrictions will be lifted.
Frankly that whole thing smelled like Russian psyop (not only it started right before invasion, about restrictive that already were planned to be lifted, but also it's goal was to disrupt important supply chain and even tried to cause unrest (when someone tried to start a fire that could burn alive some residents as the person also locked exits)
wheezy@lemmy.ml · -10 pts · 109d
Well, Biden did blow up a pipe line that supplied Russian gas to Europe. He also did nothing to improve the horrible situation in Venezuela that Trump started. He actually just doubled down on it.
Not on the level of what Trump has done. But every US president is consistently working to ensure US oligarchs have control of the oil supply. And that doesn't always mean literally stealing oil. It's more about control.
Sometimes that brings domestic gas prices down. Sometimes it makes them go up. Sometimes that means blowing up pipelines. Sometimes that means kidnapping a countries elected leader.
The president WANTS domestic gas prices to be low. It helps their approval ratings and party elections. But, the president is subject to the wishes of the oil and war oligarchs. And they are fucking thirsty right now.
Edit: I've broken through with a positive upvote (for now) making a comment about Democrats and Bidens failures to combat Trump. I have faith in you Lemmy.
Edit2: Had to brag. Reminded people to downvote.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 108d
The price spike under Biden was more the orange kid-diddler's doing. Threatening to without military funding for Saudi Arabi unless they cut down on oil output during COVID. Which when supply chains were firing back up under Biden they had t ramped production back up yet. Biden got blamed for some he had nothing to do with. Aka the repugnican method.
wheezy@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 108d
Bidens biggest failures were not undoing a lot of the things Trump did in his first term.
I think it was a false belief in that the US should remain consistent and not back peddle on bad policies. So, instead of working with Iran to restore the JCPoA (that they continued to abide by via the UN) he continued to push sanctions. Similar situation with Venezuela. Hell, he even kept a lot of Trump's awful border policy. He absolutely failed in restoring faith in America, on the world stage, after Trump's first term. He needed to push hard in the opposite direction and have actual material changes that Trump (or any Republican) could not undo again.
Now, one could say this is because they didn't think they would lose again to Trump. But, that, in itself, was also a major failure for Biden/Harris. They had no major material improvements to point to as an achievement.
mangobanana@discuss.online · 10 pts · 108d
His biggest failure was not arresting and putting Trump in prison~___~
rumba@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 107d
TBF the whole coup should have been made an example of. There was so much video evidence.
mangobanana@discuss.online · 3 pts · 107d
Hard agree
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 7 pts · 108d
The pinnacle failure of centrists. Regressives have no issues throwing out good policy.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 108d
I do believe they honestly tried, but the damage done was not something which could easily be solved in a weekend. I even said in arguments that most of his first term would be trying to repair the US's reputation on the world stage which he did make strides at. But as for passing anything, Moscow mitch even openly said that they'd fight against everything they could just to make Biden look like he wasn't capable of new laws or policy.
The first things Biden had on his plate when he took office were dealing with COVID to get the country and economy running again, fallout from the January 6th insurrection, and the time bomb of the military withdraw from Afghanistan.
Nautalax@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 108d
Tbh Biden did set himself up for trouble on gas prices specifically. He had that make Saudi Arabia a pariah initiative he was giving speeches on when he first got elected, it was going OK while the US held the cards… but after the Ukraine war started and the supply was reduced, gas prices became a giant glowing weak spot that the Saudis could vengefully mash just in time for mid-terms. Biden recognized the danger then and visited hat in hand to ask for forgiveness and more production, but it was too late after making very public positions and statements that the Saudis REALLY didn’t like at all so the trip didn’t amount to much other than embarassing news articles about him crawling back to the guy he had been calling a murderer.
mrbean343@lemmy.world · 73 pts · 109d
Hey me too! SoCal for those curious about the price.
Bischmeister@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 108d
Haha is that the picture of trump looking up at the solar eclipse?
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 108d
I've always loved that one. Looking straight into a solar eclipse bare-eyed, proving how much of a genuine fucktard he really is.
Skv@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 109d
You guys life in a tech dystopia with a utopian future sticker plastered in front.
merdaverse@lemmy.zip · 56 pts · 108d
Found this one online
ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 108d
This one was in Arkansas
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 48 pts · 108d
fiendishplan@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 109d
I bought a 100 of these putting up at every gas station I go to.
Skv@lemmy.world · -63 pts · 109d
"Oh damn, gas prices went up so filling a tank went up $10..... I know! I'll blow $100 on useless stickers and still complain about the $10!"
4am@lemmy.zip · 30 pts · 108d
None of your argument makes you sound smart, likeable, or relevant. Stop posting forever.
binarytobis@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 108d
The real issue here is that you think it costs $100 for 100 stickers.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 108d
I mean, it's one sticker. What could it cost? Ten dollars?
fiendishplan@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 108d
I "blew" 6.00 on stickers and I'm not complaining about anything.
db2@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 108d
My pack was a buck fifty. 🤷
mirshafie@europe.pub · 16 pts · 108d
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 108d
I've actually replied to emails saying "it took you more time and effort to ask me to ask someone this question than it would have been to just ask them yourself"
zewm@lemmy.world · -94 pts · 109d
Good job vandalizing the gas station of someone that just trying to run a business and has to clean up after your safe rebellion. You’re really sticking it to the man there.
pr06lefs@lemmy.ml · 78 pts · 109d
thanks. extra stickers for the gas stations that play ads
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 109d
I saw someone used duct tape on the little vent that houses the speakers on one of these. It actually almost completely blocked out the sound. Whoever did that fucks
TherapyGary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 108d
Oh damn that's good to know- sounds a lot safer than jamming a pocket knife in it
rainwall@piefed.social · 6 pts · 108d
Sound? The video is bad enough.
I would use fucking fire.
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 108d
Its usually egregiously loud too.
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 108d
They used to include a mute feature on them to shut them up, now that's gone too.
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 108d
Yeah still on some of the older ones, but yeah, I imagine that the lack of a mute button spawned the duct tape man
TheAsianDonKnots@lemmy.zip · 20 pts · 109d
Perfectly calculated response. I love you, friend. Go on, get sticky with it.
MikeImBack@disabled.social · 7 pts · 109d
9point6@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 109d
Oh, should they be throwing Molotovs? That's probably easier for the attendant to clean up
MrKoyun@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 107d
And way more sparkly!
zoloftt@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 109d
How's the air up there?
Mantzy81@aussie.zone · 12 pts · 108d
They could just leave it there as it's not hurting their business and is also true.
And remember, property destruction as a form of protest has a long a storied history that generally works far more effectively than marches or rallies and is part of the escalation of the protest process if The People are ignored. It gets far worse so they should take it seriously and listen/act on the concerns of the protestors. They wouldn't like what comes next.
Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 109d
Oh no! Not a little sticker.
Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 108d
Oh god would someone please think of the business owners!
xabit24368@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 108d
people are disappearing for unsafe rebellion. At least he's doing something.
edible_funk@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 108d
You say that shit when the Biden stickers were fuckin everywhere?
zewm@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 108d
Yes. It's all vandalism. It doesn't matter whose face is on the sticker.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 108d
Link or you never said it
athatet@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 108d
lol fuck the gas station
Slovene85@sh.itjust.works · 34 pts · 109d
It's Joe Barack Hussein Biden's fault.
Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 109d
Well gas prices were definitely lower on February 26th before that asshole started a war with Iran.
MrKoyun@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 107d
No its because Zohran Mamdani wants to tax the rich ofc.
EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 109d
Pacattack57@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 108d
I don’t think I’ve ever seen 86 octane gasoline 😂
EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 108d
I hadn’t either, until I got out here. I’m used to 87/89/93 or 87/91/93
Pacattack57@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 109d
3.99 is cheap. It’s $4.20 where I’m at which is still cheap compared to much of the country
Hypnotoad_@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 108d
Look at this guy not from California!
6.89 the other day
p4rzivalrp2@piefed.social · 7 pts · 108d
Its about 6.50 to 7.20 near me depending on the station
Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 108d
$3.99 USD per gallon is about $1.43 CAD per litre. I weep, lol. I'm paying $1.96 CAD per litre (about $5.41 USD per gallon). I'm in Alberta, we grow it here. That's relatively cheap compared to some other provinces 😭
Edit: Don't take those numbers as gospel. I'm scrolling on the can, so it may not be my best math.
BurntWits@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 108d
I got the same number, your math checks out I think.
My local gas station was 187.9 last I checked. Not quite as bad as yours but still brutal.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 108d
4.99ish where I am, for the last week or so.
I wouldn't call it lucking out but a couple weeks ago I was hitting the store midday and saw 1 station had jumped to $4.29. a couple blocks later I saw 2 stations still had it at 3.89 so I immediately filled up. Within a couple days it had already jumped to somewhere around 4.50 and days later it's at 4.99.
Sabata11792@ani.social · 3 pts · 108d
Jumped from $4.75 on the way to work to $4.99 on the way home. Were fucked.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 108d
$3.99 for E0 gas is a fucking steal. Normally you pay more for E0, this is below the country average right now.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 108d
The E0 is the one that was removed. It's only an option for the 91.
jambudz@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 108d
That’s still dirt cheap for 91. It’s 4.509 for 87 by me right now
chiliedogg@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 107d
Yeah - prices vary a lot. Especially with state gas taxes. Texas hasn't increased its tax on gas in over 30 years, for instance. As a percentage, they're barely a quarter today what they were when I was first driving.
Town@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 109d
I wish my gas was only a dollar more per gallon
Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 109d
Right, under $5/gallon? Braggart.
WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 109d
That's looks like ~1.30-1.50 more a gallon to me.
islandcoda42@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 108d
Today in eastern MA. Up up up we go…..
jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 108d
Oof.
islandcoda42@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 106d
Up again already🧐
expatriado@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 109d
rarely the president has as much responsibility for the gas prices
TallonMetroid@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 109d
It's almost like El Taco heard about people trying to explain that the president wasn't actually capable of affecting gas prices and went "hold my
beerMcD's".Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 109d
Also rare for the president to be a convicted felon. Yet this monster found a way.
db2@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 108d
Probably less rare for them to be a rapist and pedophile but he's definitely the most publicized at it.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 108d
You’re right, I think we've finally surpassed Thomas Jefferson at this point, though I suspect TJ’s rape and pedophilia are still mostly danced around when people talk about Sally Hemings (who was 14-16 years old and a peer to his daughter when it began, while Jefferson was in his mid forties).
delikt@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 108d
Gas Price per Gallon atm in Austria: 8 Dollar
Befor this Bullshit it was at around 4,50 Dollar
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 108d
Currently about 605 yen ($3.90 USD) in (rural) Japan. That only seems cheap in dollars because the yen has tanked in the past few years. 5 years ago when there were somewhat similar gas prices it would've been about $5.75
delikt@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 107d
So you can't compare it before and after the Trump-israel-Iran War (i called like this cause i noticed the USA dosn't wanted this war at all) cause your currency value changed that much?
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 107d
So these days I'm seeing 154 yen per liter on the low end, and in 2019 I also saw about that price. But right now 1 USD is 156 yen, but in 2019 it was only worth around 105 to 110.
NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 107d
I mean that's an insane percentage increase. My bro in Berlin (I'm in London) was saying they've seen 50% but you guys win! In the UK we're at about 10% increase since the Israel/US/Iran war
hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 11 pts · 108d
Unleaded 88, wtf ? Does the US have gasoline with such a low octane ? or is it the price in inch pounds per linear whatsadoodle ?
JK_Flip_Flop@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 108d
The US uses a slightly different Octane rating system that averages slightly lower than the more common RON. The system they use averages RON with MON which is measured under different engine conditions. The pump is labeled with (R+M)/2 to indicate this in the image. According to Wikipedia, 88 is equivalent to 95 RON.
No idea why they feel the need to be different.
Geobloke@aussie.zone · 12 pts · 108d
I still don't understand, can you compare that to something completely arbitrary like bourbon, Coke or football ovals?
Jerb322@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 108d
Not quite Everclear but stronger than Jack Daniel's.
Geobloke@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 107d
Damn, that actually makes sense
knolord@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 108d
The US uses a weird mix of RON and MON ratings (printed on the buttons) - 88 on their rating would be 91 RON, which is still very low for more modern engines, but not gut-wrenching at least.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 10 pts · 109d
Huh, how does the octane rating work in the US?
Common octane ratings in NZ are 91, 95, & 98.
I'm guessing that there are different ways to calculate the rating, rather than the actual fuel being that different.
RandomStickman@fedia.io · 26 pts · 109d
There's a table in the wiki article that shows the equivalence of different systems
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 108d
That was quite informative, thanks. I'd always wondered about the specifics and had never remembered to look it up.
bstix@feddit.dk · 6 pts · 109d
Yes. USA, Canada and Mexico use a different rating. You need to add about 5 to get the same number on the more common RON scale.
SolSerkonos@piefed.social · 4 pts · 109d
There's two primary ways to measure octane. RON and MON. Most countries pick one- specifically RON. The US and Canada average the two, for some reason.
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · 8 pts · 108d
What do y'all think about...
InvalidName2@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 109d
We all knew the type of degenerate losers who put up the Biden "I did that stickers" were just partisan hacks who would (and largely do not) feel the same way now that Trump actually has directly impacted fuel prices. That was always part of the reason people rolled their eyes every time we saw one.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 108d
$4.57 here. $3.99 is the George Bush of gas prices. It sucks, but it looks so good compared to where we’re going.
GarboDog@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 108d
Over here in Spain (where almost everything is pretty much cheap) gas is ~9$usd/gallon Heard a friend in Germany (whom also doesn’t drive (anymore)) say it’s minimum ~11$usd/gallon over there (Edit: we did the math to convert from €eur/Liter to $usd/gal and rounded to closest .50¢ (both were rounded down lol) it’s not average for the entire countries just the two prices for where we live and our friend lives) Anywho it’s gone up that’s for sure but we’re not heavily impacted
vegafjord@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 108d
Trump is probably going to be the greatest thing that happened for the zero carz dragment!
Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 108d
I stuck one on a gas station in Texas today. Gas was over $4 a gallon.
It feels good to travel through red states and shit on their orange god.
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org · 6 pts · 109d
Meanwhile in Germany a gallon is around 10€ currently.
ccunning@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 108d
They sell gas by the gallon in Germany?
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org · 6 pts · 108d
No, I just converted the price for the imperially minded amongst us.
Skv@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 109d
Joke's on you - I can only use Premium.
jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 108d
Same, unfortunately.
Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 108d
I'm so happy my shitbox takes regular 87
Unfortunately the cheapest I ccould find yesterday was $5.15 per gallon (they limit you to 10 gallons). Most of them around me are $5.50+ with 2 being well over $6 per gallon ($6.19 and $6.29).
Those are for regular, I haven't even checked premium prices locally.
Solventbubbles@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 107d
My dude, I'm paying $6 over here in California. I would love to have $4 gas.
harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 109d
I wish it was that cheap. It's all over $4/gallon for the cheap stuff. Even the Costco is $4.19 for 85.
Furbag@pawb.social · 3 pts · 109d
The Ethanol, Ethanol, Ethanol Hoax!
rumba@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 107d
I spent 2k to replace the radiator in my hybrid just before this started, mofo's gonna pay for itself
altphoto@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 107d
altphoto@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 107d
They hide various gas stations but they are all expensive. Here's from one minute ago:
thefluffiest@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 108d
Fortunately Hegseth is making up for all that ethanol consumption by himself
vegafjord@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 108d
oopsie
texture@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 108d
am i to assume whatever e85 is has lead?
whats going on
jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 108d
E-85 as in (up to) 85% ethanol. Gotta subsidize those corn farmers somehow.
Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 108d
JFC that would thrash my poor little car!
FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 108d
Yeah, not every car can use it. Gotta rtfm before filling up with the corn trash.
boaratio@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 108d
No, it has ethanol in it. Not lead. Ethanol is made from corn and it's subsidized by the government so farmers can sell their excess corn.
texture@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 108d
im relieved to hear that. odd that they label all of them except the cheapest as "unleaded".
Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 108d
For whatever reason, all gasoline in the US is labeled unleaded, or maybe disel.
texture@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 108d
well, except e85 apparently, and thats what encouraged me to ask any questions in the first place. lol :)
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 108d
The other answers are correct but also for the record, I don’t think you can buy pre-mixed leaded gasoline anywhere in the US (maybe on a private racetrack?). You have to buy the lead and mix it in yourself.
RaccoonBall@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 108d
Airports still offer leaded
MrMakabar@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 108d
Did Trump cut fuel taxes? or why is it only 1€/l or so.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 108d
In January in Texas, the average was $2.37/gallon. Now it's close to $4.00
khannie@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 108d
That's high for over there.
I think before the war kicked off it was averaging $3.50 a gallon (3.78L) and now is averaging about $4.50. American mongo cars use a lot more petrol but it's not taxed nearly as high as they're a fuel producer.
Meanwhile after emergency tax cuts here it's running about €1.83 a litre or $8.30 a gallon for unleaded or near $10 for diesel.
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 109d
"If they rise, they rise"
grue@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 109d
What's going on with that "unleaded 88" that's cheaper than regular 87 octane? I've never heard of it before.
jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 109d
I think it's 15% Ethanol. That particular tank was empty.
db2@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 108d
Pointless too, the cost per gallon "savings" is nullified and then some by the loss of MPG.
They price "premium" above the MPG savings also. It's a no-win all around for us.
grue@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 108d
Ah, that makes sense, although I'm surprised they didn't call it "E15". I think in my area they don't bother with it because regular unleaded is already "up to 10% ethanol" anyway, so it'd only be a 5% difference and that's not worth taking a slot on the pump.
Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 109d
I saw one the other day as well
NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social · 0 pts · 109d
The funniest part is that "Premium" is still 4 RON lower than european regular.
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 109d
See comment by Random Stickman, different standard systems give different octane numbers for the same fuel. Edit: according to the Wikipedia chart, the RON of that "Regular Unleaded" would be 91-92. That 87 on the pump is the RON minus the MON, divided by 2 to give the AKI.
The RON of US Premium is 96-98, is that closer to your European number?
Here's the explanatory link they posted: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating
As for prices, I live in California where Regular is currently $6.50 near me. Some of the difference from OP's prices is state and local taxes that go towards things that benefit me, some is because our gas has to be formulated to reduce smog. Which also benefits me.
NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social · 3 pts · 107d
Wait what? This is like when I learned about farenheit all over again.
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 107d
Hey it was news to me too. Yay new knowledge!
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · -19 pts · 108d
Maybe donate money to a food bank instead of these stupid stickers?
musubibreakfast@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 108d
Maybe do both.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 107d
Or, instead of that, spend all the money on food for your neighbors instead.
Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 107d
Or buy more stickers to get momentum going in the other way so eventually people don't need random donations to eat