"Yankees not like it when someone threatens to annex your country against your will?"

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Lumidaub@feddit.org · 103 pts · 39d (13 replies)

more kings

*snort*

HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca · 35 pts · 39d (12 replies)

No humor like British humor

adarza@piefed.ca · 58 pts · 39d

British humor humour

FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 39d (10 replies)

English

The Scots and English are different countries

The Welsh too

And Northern Ireland should not be a part of the UK.

robocall@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 39d (2 replies)

And Northern Ireland should not be a part of the UK.

The troubles was a hell of a time

FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 39d (1 reply)

Such a euphemistic term

ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 38d

Wait til you find out what the Irish called WW2

yakko@feddit.uk · 9 pts · 39d (3 replies)

There's no humourlessness like British humourlessness

FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 39d (2 replies)

Well, you can fuck yourself because I'm a Kiwi

I lived all over the UK though, a couple of decades ago

So yeah, I have more perspective than some yank who struggles to find their own state on a fucking map

yakko@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 39d (1 reply)

Okay there fella. Pretty mild jokes I thought, didn't mean any harm.

I might be a seppo but I was never that good at it. Not that good at being a Brit either, these days. Maybe I'll emigrate to New Zealand someday and suck at that, if I ever find it on a map.

FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 39d

It's left off most maps

Not necessarily a bad thing,

Although there's very little oil there, so it's fairly safe

Godric@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 38d (2 replies)

They are very much the same country, actually, common misconception amongst sportsballers.

I hear there's talk of a referendum to change that, but until then:

Wrong

primal_buddhist@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 38d

4 countries, part of one sovereign state

CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 38d

The UK is a tight political union consisting of England and 3 countries who's populations have never recovered from what England did to them, and consistently vote contrary to it.

Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 69 pts · 39d (2 replies)

Absolutely top notch shitstirring.

8oow3291d@feddit.dk · -6 pts · 39d (1 reply)

shitstirring

The word "trolling" covers exactly this concept. Unlike the misused term Russian "troll farm", which is more accurately a hostile foreign psy-op.

athatet@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 38d

Whats brilliant is that more than one word can mean the same thing. It keeps things from getting boring.

Ariselas@piefed.ca · 55 pts · 39d (4 replies)

Perhaps if anyone could get a good cup of tea in Boston, things would be a little more civil.

adarza@piefed.ca · 22 pts · 39d (3 replies)

i happen to recall they do like to throw tea parties.

robocall@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 39d (2 replies)

They use harbor water in the tea though

unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 39d (1 reply)

You mean they cold brew the tea in the ocean basin?

FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 39d

hipsters will buy anything if it's sold whilst wearing plaid.

FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 39d (59 replies)

Honestly, right now I’d love to be annexed by Canada.

Or Denmark.

Like. I’d totally help make that happen.

Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk · 42 pts · 39d (42 replies)

Dane here. while your offer is flattering, we can’t accept as we have our own environmental problems to fix first. We don’t need another dumpster to clean.

robocall@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 39d (39 replies)

But but but... You could clean Texas!

Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk · 8 pts · 39d (36 replies)

It would require a genocide to clean Texas of all their environmental issues. And as far as I’m concerned, genocide is wrong.

TheparishofChigwell@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 39d (35 replies)

That implies massacring minorities

Genocide is only that when aimed at a race, not a locale

You are free to nuke the whole place by merit of their stance alone

Cethin@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 38d (3 replies)

Genocide is any group of people. A culture or national group, religious group, race, identity, or whatever else. If you're identifying a group of people to destroy (not even just kill, but targeted destruction) that's a genocide.

TheparishofChigwell@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 38d (2 replies)

That definition is way too broad and ignores why the term exists. Genocide is a specific legal concept from the 1948 UN Convention, not a catch-all word for any group of people you decide to label.

The law only covers national, ethnical, racial, or religious groups because those are the categories that have historically been targeted for systematic annihilation. Political groups were explicitly excluded when the convention was drafted for a reason. If you just define it as any group you want to destroy, the word loses all legal weight and precision.

You can call mass violence against other groups a crime against humanity or a war crime—those are still incredibly serious—but calling it genocide just because it fits your personal preference is factually wrong. Precision matters if you actually want to talk about international law rather than just throwing around emotionally charged terms.

Do you have any actual legal basis for your definition, or are you just making it up as you go?

Cethin@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 37d

Yeah, and legally Trump wasn't convicted of rape, because the court that convicted him had a definition that didn't match the common usage, which the judge explicitly pointed out IIRC. Legal definitions are just that. They're legal definitions, not the definition. Here's the wiki page. It starts by saying "Genocide is the partial or total destruction of a human group, committed intentionally."

Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 39d (30 replies)

Absolutely incorrect, lol.

TheparishofChigwell@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 38d (29 replies)

Genocide is the deliberate attempt to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group.

What do you say it is then? Instead of going: "nu-uh!" at things

context often helps the thinkers to recognize the non thinkers

Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 38d

national

Doesn't say anything about minorities either, unless you're using the word American-ly.

corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 39d

clean

You spell "excise" funny.

FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 39d

I vote we just let them have their independence. No need to inflict that on anyone.

FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 39d

This is fair.

NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 38d

What if we pay you to take us?

ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 24 pts · 39d (7 replies)

You couldn't pay us enough to put up with your fucking yahoos. I think you're going to need to figure it out yourselves.

America will always do the right thing, after they've tried literally everything else.

SEND_BUTTPLUG_PICS@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 39d (1 reply)

We don't even try the wrong things. We just keep doing the same old shit we've been doing and wondering why nothing ever changes.

Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 38d

That's the wrong thing..

Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 39d (4 replies)

America has only done the right thing once, and that's joining WWII. They immediately fucked that up though, when they needlessly nuked Japan twice.

ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 38d (3 replies)

Yes, but then they made peace with Japan and brought it into full trade relationship with the world, and Japan became one of the top economies in the world. Germany the same via the Marshall Plan. All of this could have been accomplished without nuking Japan, but as I said, they have to do every wrong thing before the do the right thing.

Unfortunately, I'm kind of cynical now given the last 50 years. I really am not sure that the American's are capable of doing the right thing anymore, despite countless examples of countries around them that manage to treat it's citizens like people for the most part. The oligarchic structure has gotten it's talons too far into the meat at this point, and it's rotting from inside. The citizens have been whittled away from power so extensively that it might take a pretty bloody fight to change it. And given the level of technology dedicated to suppression of citizen power, and even outright rejection of the constitution boundaries that have worked back when they could do the right thing, I'm not sure it's going to work.

So yah, I agree with you, today. I wouldn't have agreed back when they were nuking Japan, because they did eventually do the right thing. And to be fair, Japan visited untold suffering on other countries. It's hard to say if they would have capitulated without that display of overwhelming force. They sure didn't seem open to it beforehand. But I guess we won't know in this fucked up timeline.

Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 38d (2 replies)

Yeah buddy, death to America.

ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 38d (1 reply)

lemmy.ml

Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 38d

Wow, good reading skills. Do you need a pat on the head?

WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca · -5 pts · 38d (7 replies)

You’re literally not helping it happen right now. Get the fuck off the sofa.

TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 38d (6 replies)

He says from a sofa.......

Any average Canadian has the same ability to take direct action and dictate their will over the US government as any US citizen...... Virtually none.

This is because The US government has achieved nearly a total monopoly on violence. It's also the same reason you aren't out in Canada killing cops over the states treatment of your indigenous population. What, do you support the genocidal actions of the Canadian government....why aren't you out there doing something about it?

Do you see how immature and naive that sounds?

Now, I'm not saying that violence never solves anything, just that it requires a level of political organization that does not currently exist to do any good. If there were an actual leftist organizations doing violent direct action right now they would just be used as a tool to validate an even more extreme response from the state.

Every Malcolm X needs an MLK to juxtapose the options for change to conservatives. As of now we don't even have anyone close to MLK, mostly because the DNC are filled with center right stooges. Hopefully that changes soon, just recently there's been a few actually left leaning politicians getting elected. So yes, people are working on the problem. Your hypocritical hysterics are not helping anyone, it just makes you feel less like a citizen of a country that is collaborating with the empire.

Holytimes@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 38d (1 reply)

A big reason we don't have a new MLK is because after MLK we functionally made it illegal to do what he did.

Not explicitly mind you. We just created red tape, new laws and regulations. Around what he did. So your free to do it, just expect you know your not free to do it in anyway that he did, or like he did, or adjacent to what he did. Etc and etc.

But you totally can do it!

Public rallying is extremely controlled now.

TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 38d

Well, a lot of what MLK did wasn't really legal either. The big difference is that MLK had important allies in Congress and in the Senate that would go out of their way to aid and protect him. You really do need support in powerful places to rally against the state, even in non violent ways.

Having representatives that can shield your revolutionary actions is important even if you've given up on an electoral solution.

WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 38d (3 replies)

I can’t tell you how disinterested I am in reading another screed from a lazy, defensive, cowardly American. I’m sure someone will read that though 👍

TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 37d (2 replies)

Hypocrisy must be a hobby of yours considering you're too lazy to read. You know what is worse than being in the evil empire? Being a happy pet state of the empire and somehow thinking you're any better.

WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 37d (1 reply)

Standard MAGA-level ad hominem. America, everyone 👍

TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 37d

Another display of hypocrisy. Your entire argument is based on ad hominems you twat.

GandalftheBlack@feddit.org · 37 pts · 39d

As much as I despise the imperial legacy of my home country, this got a laugh out of me.

AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space · 27 pts · 39d (1 reply)

The Scots are a bit more chill. With the English stickers, that’s what they call “banter” (i.e. essentially shitposting), but when you see a St. George’s flag, there’s always an edge of aggression to it.

Not that Scottish football fans can’t be aggressive, just that they refer to the Northern Irish sectarian conflict when doing so.

ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 38d

They just become more docile the further they get from Buckfast Abbey.

Donkter@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 39d

Ok but I want that sticker

scutiger@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 39d (3 replies)

ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 39d

That one’s also a shithole

robocall@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 39d

We were Bri'ish all along!

Digestive_Biscuit@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 38d

I wasn't sure if they were talking about Boston or New Boston

Etterra@discuss.online · 18 pts · 38d

Probably about half of us will find this funny as hell. I know I do.

Almacca@aussie.zone · 18 pts · 39d (4 replies)

Yeah, because the UK government is going such a bang-up job of running things. :|

echodot@feddit.uk · 8 pts · 39d (3 replies)

At least we're not being run by neutral Nazis. Admittedly it's a pretty low bar but I think we just about passed over that one.

Quokka@quokk.au · 12 pts · 39d

You are being run by fascists however.

Fascists who allow immigrants homes to be bombed, who target and criminalise minorities such as trans people, who abuse the legal system to silently change charges to terrorism because they were anti-genocide.

But hey as long as it’s Mussolini and not Hitler, you’re fine right?

Almacca@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 39d

Honestly, anything would be an improvement over the current shit-show. Also, the Westminster system of government seems to be a lot more robust in preventing the likes of Trump doing whatever the fuck they want without consequence. I'm convinced. Do it!

ScoopMcPoops@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 38d

Are you still not allowed to say free palestine?

Godric@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 38d (4 replies)
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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 38d

Aw fuck. What about us joke priests? Can I provide my own entrails or do they gotta be fresh (I do not want to go through that again)

BlindPenguin@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 38d (2 replies)

Idk if you heard, but the king in the UK does not have absolute power anymore...

JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 38d

Still has all the money, though.

OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 38d

Maybe not, but that doesn't mean he should be spared the guillotine

NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 39d

Boston/Mass ain’t exactly republican strongholds…

Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 38d

As a Canadian, I find this incredibly hilarious.

carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 38d

I'm down for being annexed just please

  1. Don't be a country seriously considering electing Nigel Farage or the local equivalent
  2. Be careful how much you annex or you will get #1 eventually.
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 39d (2 replies)

That blue guy better not be a Brit talking about colonialism. Come to think of it, better not be Dutch, Spanish, or Portuguese either.

SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 39d (1 reply)

Or a Belgian king.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 38d

Belgian prime ministers lookin awful delicious

kreskin@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 37d (4 replies)

The amertican people have been asking for some time for Britain to take us back. Thats how bad our government is-- we'd happily sign back onto the absolute dumpter fire of British government rule and it'd be a great improvement.

Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 37d

Don't strive for not what you have. Strive for substantially better. Britain is a pos, no kings means no kings.

Impractical_Island@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 37d (2 replies)

I be a dumpster fire of the stewards cost of baritone prominence, and I know what I understand and that's where seven doth cost six one two in the back of yhr ninr snd that typo was on purpose, obviously.

kreskin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 37d (1 reply)

Come on, Britain.
Please? We're very used to "taxation without representation" now and its fine with us. Just give us a second chance and take us back, baby. it'll be better this time -- we've learned our lesson.

Impractical_Island@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 37d

Bro I am the 48th n 50th president, tf you on about? I represent a group of honest, trustworthy individuals representing the representatives of the government who make up the remains of the Illuminati and will be happy to take your banking information at a moment's notice, I'll have you know.

BlindPenguin@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 38d

DupaCycki@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 38d (4 replies)

If I had to choose between being British and American, I think I'd just kill myself.

YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 38d (2 replies)

Why?

Holytimes@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 38d (1 reply)

Well ones the British, and the other is British 2.0

YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 38d

Okie dokie.

BillCheddar@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 37d

Sounds like a win for everybody.

Can we watch?

Maggie@thelemmy.club · 9 pts · 39d (5 replies)

What did you Yankees do to the country of the Fist Nations? Take America Back should be the cry

TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 17 pts · 38d (4 replies)

I'm mean...... If we're pointing fingers about the colonization and genocide of indigenous people, I don't know if the British really have room to make a lot of criticisms without a huge helping of hypocrisy.

Most of the deaths of indigenous people in North America happened before the concept of America even occurred. Some of the most horrific violence that ever occurred in North America was perpetrated during the King Phillips war by English colonialists.

Holytimes@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 38d (1 reply)

I do always get a bit of a chuckle that the chunk of time when America was the British gets taught and treated as American as if the USA was already a thing.

It's very strange.

TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 38d

Yeap, a lot of people didn't really start seeing themselves as culturally American until the 1840s.

MintyFresh@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 38d (1 reply)

The early colonists showed up in an essentially mad Max type situation. The natives who had been there were nearly wiped out, like 90-95% casualty rate from disease. Entire tribes and peoples just gone. Would've been a much different history had they not been basically wiped out.

TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 38d

The early colonists showed up in an essentially mad Max type situation.

Yes and no. The vast majority of the indigenous population that were killed in the great dying happened between 1520 and 1550. Around 1580 surviving tribes started to rebound and reorganize themselves. Right when populations were set to take off again the Europeans started to land in New England, permanently stunting any chance of a recovery.

So instead of a mad max type scenario, it would probably be more akin to the mid 1400s in Europe. People still would have known about the event and talked about it, but there may have been hope for the future and the beginning of some social and economic abundance.

Soulg@ani.social · 8 pts · 38d (1 reply)

Would be funny if it was any country other than UK saying that lol

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 38d

It makes it funnier

cyclonedusk@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 38d

You kiddin'? I've been begging Canada to take New England as a province since y2k.

ngl tho, for all its difficulties the british medical system is straight up better than the american one, since the american one is basically "no system, fuck you get rekt" x.x

fox2263@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 38d

Pfft the Scot’s love a cone on a statue.

Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 38d

Well, Canada turned out better under British rule. I say, the Red Coats should march back into their former colony and press reset!

libre_warrior@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 38d

Id say make America Turtle Island again

postmateDumbass@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 38d

The Greater Azoresian Empire

SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 38d

West Britain sounds legit cool

MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 37d

and it's not even against the US' will, it's just an invitation

tomiant@piefed.social · 2 pts · 38d

Hehehehehehe

Impractical_Island@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 37d

You pick up dog shit with your own ass you molest your mother with, fookin pussies!

LodeMike@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 37d

A country and the people living in that country are two different things.

heartSagan5@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 38d

They were bourgeoisie through the crown, at least the Scots that were traders in the American market.

charokol@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 39d (2 replies)

Why are they replying to a Scottish person as if they’re American?

agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 39d (1 reply)

why we love the Scottish more

If OP was Scottish, they wouldn't have said that, it makes no sense. Why do you think they're Scottish?

charokol@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 39d

Ah, my bad. My mind must have scrambled up some words when I read it. I saw “Just look to how we chose to decorate the city”

MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 37d

and it's not even against the US' will, it's just an invitation

w3ird_sloth@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 38d (2 replies)

Lol you guys suck at vandalism.

libre_warrior@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 38d (1 reply)

It doesnt have to be vandalism to be an effective imposition.

w3ird_sloth@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 38d

It IS vandalism. By definition. It's just a bit twatty. Effective if your goal is to be a twat. A real 'mother's kunt' if you catch my drift.

m3t00@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 38d

Yankees or damn Yankees

echodot@feddit.uk · -8 pts · 39d (4 replies)

What even is that flag on the sticker? I wouldn't put it past Americans doing this because we absolutely do not want you. You have got to smart yourselves up before you could consider yourself to be annexation worthy

flyingSock@feddit.org · 10 pts · 39d (3 replies)

british merchant navy if i am not mistaken. Easier to recognizeat a distance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_ensign

Womble@piefed.world · 11 pts · 39d

More relevantly, it was the flag of British America

perviouslyiner@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 39d

No red diagonals though - this is like some vexillology circlejerk "If England was colonised by the Kingdom of Great Britain's navy" flag

huppakee@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 38d

I didn't recognize it as a flag and i'm not even American, just saw a red background with a tiny little flag in one corner and three white text boxes in the others.

Zephyr@sh.itjust.works · -11 pts · 38d (10 replies)

As a part citizen, it's funny but painful on more than one level. Sidebar, isn't the UK handling their own colonization by foreigners?

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 38d (7 replies)

isn't the UK handling their own colonization by foreigners?

Keep making yourselves known. It's like y'all just can't help it.

Zephyr@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 38d (6 replies)

Y'all keep grouping people together. Also I can't tease and pike fun?

Breezy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 38d (2 replies)

I think using a pike is a bit excessive.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 38d

Please stay out of my bedroom and I'll stay out of your weapon rack

Zephyr@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 38d

Depends on the gal.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 38d (2 replies)

Poking fun at what?

Sorry, the "hurr durr it was just a joke, I was only pretending to be racist" shit typically doesn't work here. Most people see right through it.

Zephyr@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 38d (1 reply)

So that's a no for prole. It's not my narrative, go talk to the queens folk about their own news reporting.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 38d

What were you poking fun at, I'm genuinely curious

yermaw@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 38d (1 reply)

Yeah but the UK is built on being colonised by foreigners.

Zephyr@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 38d

I guess I should have added the /s people seem to be struggling.