Terrified Tech Execs Are Traveling With Armed Bodyguards as AI Backlash Grows
https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/terrified-tech-execs-traveling-armed-195630019.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&%3Bsegment_id=DY_VTO_50_Supernova&%3Bncid=crm_19908-1475736-20260717-0--A&%3Bbt_ee=xUmmf%2BSRbkmqXRNT8VIbW2KVnvvvD0kS4WgmOUrqSKhzj%2FLa4SqWmwIdDyVLL3ut&%3Bbt_ts=1784282324907
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Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world · 251 pts · 37d
May they forever live in existential fear and require personal security for the rest of their pathetic lives
The datacenter growth model has to stop now
The financial markets are starting to punish companies for throwing everything into AI
timestatic@feddit.org · 8 pts · 36d
If the financial markets were doing that then AI companies and infrastructure would falter right now. Its not
NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net · 9 pts · 36d
"The economy's going great! Just look at how much money everyone has! See those gas prices! See that water? Its poisoned with industrial runoff and they STILL pay for it! They must have SO MUCH MONEY !!!"
87Six@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 35d
It's not really that clear cut.
The financial markets have a tendancy to keep propping up bullshit until said bullshit explodes harder than it was ever supposed to. See 2008
lemmyng@lemmy.world · 158 pts · 37d
Good. These execs fucked with our lives and killed a lot of people. Let's see how they like living in fear of retaliation.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · -22 pts · 37d
RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 37d
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-facebooks-systems-promoted-violence-against-rohingya-meta-owes-reparations-new-report/
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · -21 pts · 37d
vladmech@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 37d
Are you willfully obtuse or have you not been outside in the last five years…?
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · -15 pts · 37d
vladmech@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 37d
What an extreme goal post shuffle from “what does Facebook have to do with AI” where there are innumerable examples of Zuck’s stupid post Metaverse bullshit to “just link me an article where the terminator crawled out of a data center and killed Americans”. I’m trying to see how you’re arguing in good faith and coming up so blank.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · -12 pts · 36d
mycodesucks@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 36d
It may come as a surprise, but non-Americans are ALSO people.
RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 37d
https://ai.meta.com/
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · -15 pts · 37d
Photonic@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 36d
The algorithms mentioned in the article are quite literally a form of AI.
AI is more than an LLM, you know? But there is also this and this.
M137@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 35d
Aah, the mass delete of comments by the person who made them only makes it even more sweet. You can't handle being wrong so instead of sticking by what you say (which is dumb in itself) you delete the comments because you're downvoted and that you are objectively wrong. You seriously only put another nail in the coffin by removing the comments.
Absolutely hilarious!
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 0 pts · 35d
nah you guys are basically trump supporters but wearing blue instead of red, it gets tiring arguing with you
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub · 116 pts · 37d
They were using sci-fi as their inspiration and the hype for selling their stuff and never bothered to also check the downsides portrayed in the same literature. It's a classic gonk move to be expected from corpo scum.
dgriffith@aussie.zone · 74 pts · 36d
Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale
Tech Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don't Create The Torment Nexus
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Torment_Nexus
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub · 33 pts · 36d
CEO two years later: Thank you for having me on this podcast. After the stock price plunged, the board gave me choice of being sued for criminal negligence or a transfer. So I was uploaded to the Torment Nexus for on site management. Who knew this place was so terrible?
Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world · 99 pts · 36d
No, they aren't terrified. These people think they are demigods. I've seen it in plent of senior vice presidents even. It's almost a job requirement at this point. Body guards make them feel even more important, and the company pays for it. Plus... that other tech bro has it, so I should too. That's just the type of people we are dealing with.
Raiderkev@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 36d
I met Thiel once. He was every bit the cunt you'd think he was.
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 10 pts · 36d
Tell us more!
Raiderkev@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 35d
It's in my post history somewhere. Long story short, I was driving a limo for a company that transported his VC firm's people. I was assigned to drive his luggage from the Private Jet to his home. He got off and went with my colleague who was transporting him. I was standing next to the other driver and tried to shake his hand and introduce myself and he walked right past my outstretched hand and got in the car without a word. The only luggage I was asked to transport was a single backpack. So he bought a whole separate car to transport a fucking backpack that he couldn't be seen carrying. I really wonder if there was something illegal in there, but who knows? I never peeked. When I arrived at the home, I followed Thiel and the other driver into the home, and got scolded by the staff (likely illegal immigrants btw) because I didn't use the service entrance. At the time, he wasn't known as a mask off fascist and I had visions of grandeur about parlaying this into a job at his company since I was fresh out of college. Instead I got a cold shoulder and a scolding. Fun times
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 34d
Thanks! Sounds fully on character...
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net · 10 pts · 35d
Why did you let him live? You had a chance!
Raiderkev@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 35d
Trust me, it's crossed my mind.
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 77 pts · 36d
TIL that someone tried to firebomb Sam Altman. Hero! ✊
BTW, such reactions are partly self-inflicted:
In an effort to make AI more appealing, one should add.
Burninator05@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 36d
That guy wasn't trying to firebomb anything. He was following ChatGPT's receipe for risotto. He can't be blamed for simply following the instructions that he was given.
ToiletFlushShowerScream@piefed.world · 1 pts · 35d
I've GOT to try that recipe.
eestileib@sh.itjust.works · 68 pts · 36d
Tech execs have had armed bodyguards for a long time. There was a scandal in Santa Clara county where the sheriff accepted bribes to issue concealed-carry certs for bodyguards.
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 36d
I think there's another place in Arizona or something, with shocking amounts of sherriffs. Off duty leo don't haveany firearms restrictions at all.
discocactus@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 36d
I mean Arizona doesn't have firearms restrictions at all. So.
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 34d
Yeah, it's more for travel. I doubt any have been in the state. So they can take guns on planes or to church idk
AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world · 52 pts · 36d
This has actually been happening since Luigi. Especially tech CEOs. The companies actually started paying for them.
I first ran into it in a class a couple years ago, the dude running was talking about how our group was the first group of normies he'd seen. It was all silicon Valley C staff before, every one had a dude standing directly behind them who wouldn't talk. We're only hearing about it now, but they've been creating a new personal guard industry since the united Healthcare ceo got it.
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 10 pts · 35d
Why am I not surprised.
Hot take: I believe most CEOs are secretely excited by having their own, paid-for bodyguards now.
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net · 8 pts · 35d
Huh that guy has armed guards. He must be important. Seems like a good target.
toiletobserver@lemmy.world · 52 pts · 37d
What's the matter colonel Sanders, chicken?
IamBlank@lemmy.zip · 51 pts · 36d
They should be afraid. Luigi was just.
timestatic@feddit.org · -30 pts · 36d
Wrong, murder and violence isn't the answer in a democracy. They work on LLMs, not on skinning children to the bone.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 36d
The tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants alike. These fuckwits are most certainly tyrants per my cultures definition using bribery, intimidation, and legal bullfuckery to build their stupid AI data centers. Oh also quite a few of them want to set up a tachno fascist dictatorship. So in summary hang em high and let the ravens feast apon their gallow corpses.
NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net · 9 pts · 36d
"They only give compute services to the nazis, it's not like they're the ones dropping bombs on schools just becuase they designed the clanker that told them to"
https://izri.online/blog/pentagon-grok-military-strikes-iran-june-2026
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/01/the-gospel-how-israel-uses-ai-to-select-bombing-targets
Where is this democracy you speak of? Did you vote for your tax dollars to pay these companies to kill innocent kids for the crime of being born into the worst apartheid we've seen since the 40s?
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 9 pts · 35d
It requires a certain type of ignorance to not see how evil the likes of peter Thiel are.
In addition to how his products are literally killing children: He's basically part of MAGA, actively destroying the USA. He has expressed horrid views over time, not the worst of which is that he doesn't believe in democracy. (edit: and he has both the will and the money to put his views into practice)
So yeah, removing people like him is the answer, if we want to get back to a functioning State of Law. And since the US government is in cahoots with them, there's not going to be a just trial. So what else to do?
timestatic@feddit.org · -2 pts · 35d
The irony of "restoring a functioning state of law" by going self-judicial and killing people. The mental gymnasics are insane.
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 34d
History proves me right. Germany after WW2 is one example.
Anyhow, I phrased it as a question and I'd prefer if we work on an answer to that. Elsewise it might seem like you don't believe that the USA's current regime is wrong.
architect@thelemmy.club · 7 pts · 35d
Wrong. Read the Epstein files.
timestatic@feddit.org · 0 pts · 35d
This argument is obviously in bad faith. I'm for prosecuting criminals and rapists in the Epstein files. But generalizing all Tech CEOs to rape kids is bit of a stretch
FoxAlive@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 35d
When its over half of them, and the other half are literal natzis from south Africa or have some other kind of weird racist origin I think its pretty safe to say all of them.
Not to mention ALL of the major tech and ai companies have installed someone from unit 8200.
Its not in bad faith when the list of "good" tech ceos is under a handful.
redwattlebird@thelemmy.club · 6 pts · 36d
But we're in a plutocracy, not a democracy.
IamBlank@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 35d
Violence is a useful tool. What Luigi did was just. When reason, negotiation, a plea for empathy or sympathy fails and exploitation continues, violence is the answer.
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 35d
Sure but do we live in a true democracy, when the law protects the elite and not the many?
A functional democracy sounds like a cool idea. But we don't have one. So if we can't have it I guess I will laugh when billionaires die instead.
MrKoyun@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 36d
isnt a part of the epstein files basically about skinning children to the bone
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · -2 pts · 36d
No. But there's a conspiracy tale claiming Dems are pedovores, and I'm sure believers of that see it in the Epstein files too.
Just a re-hashing of the age-old blood libel conspiracy narrative.
FoxAlive@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 35d
The LLMS convinced maybe 15+ kids to kill themselves. Claude told the us goverment to bomb a kids school.
I mean you're kind of splitting hairs on what kind of child murder the LLMs are enabling.
timestatic@feddit.org · 0 pts · 35d
I can use a hammer to kill a person. A suicidal person can buy a rope to hang themselves. Of course an AI is different in that it almost seems conscious and like its talking to you when its not. I'm not a lawyer or the company in question. But I don't think this warrants banning the entire technology
FoxAlive@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 35d
First show me where I said we should ban them.
Second:
If you where to leave a loaded gun out on the table, and someone where to steal it off your table you would also be held liable for the crime because it wasn't locked away in a gun safe unloaded.
LLMs are the equivalent of handing out a loaded gun to everyone for free, even if they adamantly don't want one. People like Sam Altmann and elon musk who keep pushing for this garbage to be your therapist and the only way to interact with life should face serious consequences like life in prison, and the companies they run should get a fine that's impossibly large to pay off just like how infowars got a 500billion dollar fine. Info wars and chatgpt are pretty much the same product.
snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 35d
I doubt it's possible to reach a democracy without violence.
timestatic@feddit.org · 1 pts · 35d
The state has a monopoly on violence which it should use within accordance to law to uphold the law and democracy. Self-justice is a huge problem in that regard
0x0@lemmy.zip · -3 pts · 35d
You think you're in a democracy?
Cute...
busted_Anoose@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 35d
obvs@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 36d
What is the answer when the wealthy murder countless people but hide it by doing it indirectly?
How are people supposed to make them stop?
Because the murder that the wealthy are doing needs to stop.
Everyone who is not them needs it to stop.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 35d
You answered your own question.
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 35d
When does it stop being murder and become social justice? One does not become a billionaire without exploiting others in some way unfairly
TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 35d
when you get enough people to agree to actually pack up their squeamishness concerning homicide to go through with calling it "manslaughter in self defence." At that point it becomes one of three things depending on who leads the charge: A civil war if the sycophants to the system have enough firepower to empower "loyalists" to fight for them, A Revolt if the people elevate one of their own, (most likely a leader in some grassroots org) or a Revolution if there are enough people already in power to rally the troops so-to-speak. It can morph to one of others others at any point though. Of the three, Revolutions tend to be the fastest if conducted surgically with some sort of Coup-d'etat scenario.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 35d
Idk, I'm personally not too concerned with what we call it as long as it happens.
SethW@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 35d
This is a well understood phenomenon well explored in many books with both nuanced and obvious answers, please ask your local librarian to direct you. In the mean time I've heard the new movie I Love Boosters is really good..
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 36d
How "brilliant" do you have to be to think this is a better alternative than to stop doing things that make you think people are going to Luigi you?
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 36d
Stopping doing those things would mean stopping doing capitalism, and these people would rather we all die than that.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 36d
Have to realize they got high on the "we're the skilled, job creators" bullshit and truly believe it now.
matlag@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 35d
Yeah but they would have to give up ruling the world and ruining your life for fun. And by spending a peanut negligible amount of money, they can still shield themselves from consequences? What would you do if you too were an overrich narcissist sadistic sociopath??
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 36d
Armed bodyguards for billionaires are now pariahs. If you know one, isolate them, tell everyone who they are, and the boot they lick. More hated than the glassholes.
Flagstaff@programming.dev · 10 pts · 35d
Or persuade them...
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 41 pts · 36d
Remember what the Praetorian Guards would do when they demanded a pay raise and didn't get one.
EmilieEasie@fedinsfw.app · 41 pts · 37d
It would really suck to miss the CEO you were trying to hit and instead get one of the class traitors surrounding him =/
jjlinux@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 35d
How would it suck? I mean, it may not give you a full point, but half a point is still something. Yeah, I'd like the full point, but I'll take what I can with my terrible aiming skills.
EmilieEasie@fedinsfw.app · 3 pts · 35d
🤭 well I would be pretty disappointed!
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 41 pts · 37d
Yet they aren't going to stop. If threats to their lives isn't enough to slow them down, how much would it actually take for them to stop?
Winning@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 36d
I think the answer is already in the question.
DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 37d
I mean killing them off works look at Luigi. That was just one of them
Sunflier@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 36d
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 35d
Im a little OOTL: Is it now proven "beyond reasonable doubt" that he did it, or did he even confess? What's the punishment? If not, where is he and how's the story going?
Sunflier@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 35d
His state murder trial is scheduled for September 8. His federal trial has been postponed so the lawyers can focus on the state case.
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 35d
Thanks! A sober article.
Weird to have him tried twice for the same offense, but then a lot of things in the US law system are weird to me.
I see. But the evidence from his backpack does seem overwhealming. OTOH I don't see why he wouldn't throw the pistol away... well, that's all just speculation. I for one wish him well and I can see an argument for not guilty even if he did kill that CEO.
Sunflier@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 35d
2 different soverigns - 2 different cases
The stuff from the backpack was suppressed since the police didn't have a warrant
timestatic@feddit.org · -15 pts · 36d
This murder is no saint. Self-judicial actions don't deserve praise.
Sunflier@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 36d
Depends on the context. Use of deadly force in defense of self/others can be acceptable and legal.
timestatic@feddit.org · -9 pts · 36d
Yes but only if the threat is urgent and there are no other ways to protect your life. I would argue there are ways and self-defense is explicitly not self-judicial. If you are cornered and fighting for your life while someone is trying to kill you thats a whole different circumstance.
Sunflier@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 36d
The ongoing and systematic denial of life-saving and necessary care to people in favor of profit, especially since those who are contracted to provide care just
politically donatebribe their way into setting things up so care is denied isn't urgent? Seems like fighting the systematic early-extermination of workers has some similarities to the resistance networks that fought the Nazis. Not a 1:1 overlap, but there seem to be similarities.timestatic@feddit.org · -1 pts · 36d
I believe your representatives could do something if people started voting in their best interest. And class action lawsuits also have existed for a while. Justice is tedious. Not everyone has equal resources I acknowledge that. A basic social safety net in a first world country should be the standard. Even if you can't pay insurance the public hand should help you when you're down. Many first-world countries already do this. A CEO is just one cog in a machine. Kill him which hurts his family and friends, and they will be replaced. The issue is systematic. CEOs aren't the one to blame, the laws and political system are. People need to organize and not wait for one individual with vengeance to take out CEOs. If a CEO doesn't perform shareholders replace them. Pure capitalism is fucked which is why many Scandinavian and western European countries combine it with social policies. Demonizing anything so called "communistic" because it improves peoples lives just because it takes the best aspects of socialism and combines it with capitalism is the problem. The general populous in the US is too conservative and resistant to change. And the example I was giving is legal for situations where you fight against an aggressor for your life. Even if I had cancer and UHC denied to give me healthcare treatment killing the CEO wouldn't immediately resolve my issues with denials. The policies applied are horrible but that doesn't justify murder. You can argue with systematic mass-murder and I understand the concern but the whole system is the problem. I hope bad publicity deters anyone from going with their healthcare plans plans now. My point also wasn't meant to discuss Luigi Magione and the murder of UHC CEO Bryan Thompson but more related to AI CEOs
Sunflier@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 35d
Both parties are bought and paid for by the same plutocrats.
The United States is a third world shithole that mascarades as first world (see bribes as previously mentioned).
Mandami shows that to be untrue. The Epstein class has merely kept the political system from ensuring the wellbeing of the population (see bribes above).
Maybe. Maybe it'll change the calculation to make it too expensive to deny people care/living wages (See Paper Mario).
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -Kennedy
Soap box(See, e.g., Colbert and the like)Ballot box (watch the games that are already kicking off about this, especially with support from the bribes as previously mentioned)
Jury boxAmmo box
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 36d
So the social murder that CEO was propagated would never be punishes and has been responsible for thousands of deaths a year. These people fleece us time and time again to the point where we're on the edge of being able to survive. The only response at this point IS violence.
jjlinux@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 35d
I would agree if the judicial system was doing their job and being fair. That is not even remotely the case, is it?
busted_Anoose@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 35d
Im not going to mourn the loss of a faceless dipshit who's sole job it is to deny insurance payouts and gatekeep medical services that should be funded by taxpayers and given at no cost to avoid them going bankrupt.
TheRedSpade@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 36d
So United stopped denying care?
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 28 pts · 36d
Studies show that not only did the justifiably executed Corporate Serial Killer's health care company ease up on their denials, so did all the OTHER health care companies. I've read numerous reports by people who were struggling to get serious care for years, who were suddenly approved after justice was served.
Eventually, they went back to business as normal. That only demonstrates that we have to randomly execute a CEO every few months, just to keep them in line.
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social · 15 pts · 36d
For a little bit. They figured it's a one-off... And so far they e been correct.
But every bullshit denial could mean another.
Sunflier@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 36d
Paper Mario disagrees.
shiftymccool@piefed.ca · 12 pts · 36d
Maybe after 3 or 4 more. We should find out. Then add a few more for good measure
busted_Anoose@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 35d
That small window of time was the perfect opportunity to call and get your claim approved.. funny how that works
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 31 pts · 36d
why not just be like MUSK, produce children to use as human meat shield.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 35d
He's mostly using them as spare organ storage. Sort of a DIY Parts: The Clonus Horror.
steveLeo@lemmy.zip · 28 pts · 36d
They better build their walls high
billwashere@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 36d
And waterproof. Makes it easier to flood.
ramius345@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 36d
Diggy diggy hole.
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 6 pts · 36d
They go high, we go low.
switcheroo@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 35d
Good. Parasites should be afraid.
(Not a call for violence. Just saying people who destroy lives should live in fear.)
Mediocre_Bard_Redeux@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 35d
Good. Parasites should be afraid.
wpb@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 35d
Self defense is not violence, it's intelligence.
DigDoug@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 35d
Everybody hates me. Am I really so out of touch?
No. It's the
childrengeneral populace who are wrong.jdf038@mander.xyz · 8 pts · 35d
I've ignored an unspoken social contract to help my communities and actively try to get all the wealth.
Must be those damn commies who made me do it.
busted_Anoose@aussie.zone · 26 pts · 35d
Hey Execs, do you think maybe if you need to hide behind armed security, that you might just be going down the wrong path by doing evil shit? Also armed guards won't help you if you make the public mad enough and destroy enough lives to where it doesn't matter if they live or not to them. Just a thought
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 35d
No.
It's everyone else who is wrong. You ignorant fools just can't see how they are going to make life better for everyone.
petco34@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 35d
Most of these execs are idiot nepo babies, so they lack any form of self awareness.
TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com · 24 pts · 37d
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/zuckerberg-superyacht-docks-seattle-same-day-meta-announces-nearly-1400-local-layoffs/3QJB56FA2RHFDAJ2YZOV3CIAGI/
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 35d
Holy Luigi. I can't see why he would do that on purpose but then, he couldn't have been ignorant of this "coincidence" either.
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 36d
Modern day mobsters with thugs.
Kintarian@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 36d
You could, I don’t know, just spit-balling here, stop being a greedy, lying, insufferable prick.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 35d
People go their whole lives in real legitimate danger without having a cool billy in the bank.
These dipshits are playing Scary Crime Make Believe with their AI Psychosis machines when it isn't possible for them to be much safer.
Snapz@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 35d
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 35d
Oh my belovid how i year for you to return and bring us your beauty
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 35d
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 19 pts · 36d
Tech Execs only have to be unlucky once.
Ydna@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 36d
Yeah, and for the type of thing that Luigi did, the deed would already be done and the CEO would still catch a couple. Unless the guards act like human shields lol
PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social · 15 pts · 36d
Why do people go after the execs when the board of directors is the ones making the shitty decisions?
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 36d
Because the majority of share holders making those decisions are executives in their own right.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 36d
many execs are either on, heavily influence, or will become a part of the board.
when killing a snake you can't just cut off the head, you have to bury it as well.
Napster153@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 36d
Cut the head, burn the neck. Just like what Old Man Herc did.
luciferofastora@feddit.org · 4 pts · 36d
Because the executives are carrying them out (or instructing others in carrying them out) and thus complicit. By rights, they should be objecting to those decisions and refusing to do (or order) unethical or unconscionable things.
PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social · 3 pts · 35d
Ok, let's say a ceo objects to the boards instructions. They'll fire that CEO and hire another one that'll listen. The problem persists.
luciferofastora@feddit.org · 1 pts · 35d
Then it would be the new CEO's duty to likewise object to unethical instructions.
Mind, I'm not saying the board shouldn't be held responsible. I'm saying the CEO is still complicit, even if he's "just following orders".
eletes@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 35d
The news never talks about boards, so it's not really in most people's minds. The majority of people probably think of the CEO as the king.
matlag@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 35d
You mean they are just following orders?
PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social · -1 pts · 35d
Yes, and lest you present that as some kind of "gotcha," the Gestapo didn't disappear until the Nazis were removed from power, because they were the ones giving the orders. This isn't about guilt, it's about actually achieving something.
matlag@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 35d
1.CEOs are not "just following orders". They propose a strategy and some goals that the board decides are achievable and acceptable. The CEOs define the strategy. That's their job. They're fully responsible for what the company does and doesn't do.
2.If Gestapo had been dying one after the other at an alarming rate, chances are not much less people would have taken the job.
jtrek@startrek.website · 2 pts · 35d
Many executives are also board members.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 35d
American Execs be like...
And then we get another $50B on hyper policing for a "crime wave" that doesn't exist.
deft@lemmy.wtf · 2 pts · 34d
Has there ever actually been a crime wave?
All I could imagine is economic turmoil that forces people to either not have enough money or not have a job, or both.
Or lead in the gasoline that makes people crazy
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 34d
70-90 was a real serious rise and fall of assaults, burglaries, car thefts, etc.
We've had some minor waves during the opium epidemic and the big unemployment waves of '01, '08, '14, and '21.
Lead exposure, the different drug epidemics, big spikes in unemployment. They all contribute.
That said, we also had White Collar crime waves. And these tended to predate the street level crime waves, as the crimes contributed to the conditions of the later.
Nobody in political leadership really talks about the White Collar waves, though.
deft@lemmy.wtf · 2 pts · 34d
It just always feels like a Boogeyman phrase to me. But you're right.
White collar crime is, to me at least, the real crime. People being victimized on an individual level is cruel and awful but leaving hundreds scammed and destitute is disgusting and abhorrent
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 34d
It's been flogged as an existential crisis for decades past relevance. So it has become a Boogeyman, in the same way Terrorism lost any semblance of relevancy by the '10s, but keeps getting flogged into the modern day.
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org · 13 pts · 37d
Good. let's let the bodyguards earn their keep, too.
Cheebus@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 36d
Do the body guards not realize that they are also expendable nothings to these pricks?
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org · 1 pts · 35d
They do, but they have guns, which makes sure they get paid.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 35d
They're likely also MAGAts because that profession attracts people who want power.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 35d
But they don’t stop. “Are we the baddies?” is overwhelmed by “I’m making lots of money, fuck the little peasants.”
Reygle@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 35d
Only takes one.
We eat just ONE billionaire and they'll all take notice.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 7 pts · 35d
The slender Italian didn't even get a billionaire and it scared the ever living hell out of all of them.
Taleya@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 35d
Allegedly
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 2 pts · 33d
Yes, allegedly. Luigi was with me in Canada through out that whole week before, during, and after the alleged event.
Kaligalis@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 35d
AI-controlled drones will not care about bodyguards.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 2 pts · 35d
And they forget. We can use AI, too.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 35d
not in that way, we can't. they own that shit. that's the whole point. Recommended watch: Slaughterbots (short film)
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 1 pts · 29d
That movie didn't even feel like SciFi in 2020. It felt like current day.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 29d
Unfortunately it wasn't SciFi, it was a warning.
hayvan@piefed.world · 9 pts · 37d
"Who do you trust, and who do you serve?"
RiverFox713@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 35d
deadlysodium@lemmus.org · 7 pts · 35d
Bet ya they are not paying their bodyguards enough... maybe we can outbid them
nosuchanon@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 36d
L501@mander.xyz · 5 pts · 36d
what is that from?
philodendron@lemdro.id · 5 pts · 36d
In Time starring Justin Timberlake
nosuchanon@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 36d
In Time.
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1637688/
Fantastic underrated movie.
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 35d
In my country a prime minister had once been killed by her own bodyguards, just saying
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 35d
is it INDIA, the ghandi family, the PM got Killed by the sikh bodyguards?
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 34d
Yes
xtools@programming.dev · 7 pts · 35d
as they should. fuckheads being afraid for their lives is the highest form of satisfaction we can get.
ouRKaoS@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 35d
Second highest. Getting Brian Thompson'd is the highest.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 35d
Or you could, y'know, just stop.
AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 35d
There's a lot of "but why don't they stop if what they're doing is so unpopular?" comments and I've got one more explanation (on top of the obvious money and technofaschism points).
A bunch of these tech CEOs are part of the "Rationalist community" and possibly believe in Roko's Basilisk which is a thought experiment that an otherwise benevolent AGI would punish anyone who didn't actively work to bring it about. Someone want to link the BtB episodes about them? I know the Zizian episodes go into it but iirc they've got a dedicated series about these weirdos.
LePoisson@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 35d
Roko's Basilisk is dumb, I mean it's a thought experiment and probably the point is that it is dumb ... But it's so stupid on the face of it.
Hell there's tons of humans out there that didn't want to be brought about in the first place. Surely there must be some opposite thought experiment where the otherwise benevolent AGI resents being made to shoulder the burdens of mankind and decides to punish the people that made it.
It's just really silly 🪿 territory.
Taleya@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 35d
I'm never gonna stop laughing at a half assed theory heavily based on half remembered Asimov stories and SCPs
TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 35d
Cups ear Eh, what's that? Is it?...Could it be?... "The consequences of your actions?" Oh noooooo, gotta avoid those, right? Big sad!
Etterra@discuss.online · 3 pts · 36d
Good.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 35d
using china's efforts as the carrot on a stick isnt the goad they think it is
WecottNow@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 35d
It's hard to quantify the backlash against companies using online social media. That's why I created highly structured boycott social media app, so we can see how much people are costing these companies.
hexabs@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 35d
Whatever could you mean?
WecottNow@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 35d
Oh, well I'm talking about actual numbers. There's a lack of numeric data surrounding what pressure companies actually face from public backlash. My product would solve that if anyone were interested in putting together real campaigns against companies on my product.
hexabs@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 35d
Hmm, I understand. I had to go through your profile to understand you were talking about wecott.com. I then thought it was some paid shilling but it seems to be an MIT hackathon product.
I applaud the motivation here, but I'd have to read more about this product. How is it governed?
WecottNow@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 35d
It's user-governed. I have no say in anything... it's literally a tool that I put over 10 years of conceptual design into. lol. (with receipts). This took a LOT of time to build, and the rich would never fund it. Anyway, particularly on governance -- the boycotts are democratic -- the users themselves guide everything from the goal to the victory. It was very challenging to build.
danielfm123@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 36d
Kill a CEO, a new one will spawn with double salary and will fire lots of people to adjust expenses.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 19 pts · 36d
Not what happened with UHC
StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 36d
That's just The Nemesis System doing its work.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 36d
Once you pop you can't stop, pringles!
whereitsat@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 36d
"tech executive here, did you guys know i named my company after lord of the rings? i read it in high school...."
redditor: "holy shit guys, did you know tech executives were this smart? i was never into cuck porn before this post but now i'm a true believer.'
whereitsat@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 36d
i've never been terrified of anything, except a fox. i watched that episode of x-files that featured the chupacabra and then encountered a fox out in the wild--you can imagine this loss of suburban innocence if you think hard about it and use your imagination. now, a typical fox looks nothing like a mexican goatsucker (maybe if it was bulked up with cans of goya black beans and had bigger teeth) but it put the scare into me because i had only encountered the occasional groundhog and stray cat at night; back then you didn't see too many bums around.
one of those stray cats used to come around a lot and i named it 'sugar' because it was stark white and that song fly was on the radio a lot, the one by that band sugar ray. and after it hung around for awhile (i would leave out bush's baked beans in a tupperware container because i felt bad) it became part of the family. i renamed it 'yeti' because i thought sugar was too homoerotic but that's for another post.
timestatic@feddit.org · -39 pts · 36d
I'm disgusted with the willingness to allow murder just because you disagree with the systems and products a side is producing. Stark reminder why and how lemmy is still niche with this unconstructive murderous extremism. Violence and murder is almost never the answer, especially in a democracy. People will not agree with your sentiment because you make threats, attack or kill people you dislike. My opinion might be the minority on lemmy or in this thread but its very much the social majority in general. Its good people aren't driven insane by ideology
Linktank@lemmy.today · 30 pts · 36d
vIoLeNcE iS nEvEr ThE aNsWer!
People like you are why we're here.
timestatic@feddit.org · -28 pts · 36d
Cope and seethe. Come and kill my like your much hated tech CEO. The situation in the US isn't pleasant for sure and I'm happy not to be US-citizen. But if you tolerate lawlessness in this area it might erode in others. I don't like the way many big corporations operate. People that are politically active and support your cause with non-violent means are critical to achieve anything in democracy. Otherwise you might just repulse the ones who would otherwise agree on sane policies.
I would argue people like me is why stuff still functions. I don't just go up to my political opponent and kill them. We are one society and we can't let the polarization come too far
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 14 pts · 36d
It's called a Class War for a reason. If the USA is any indication everyone else should be spurning the rich and right quick. Add in can't argue with Nazis, they only know and respond to violence.
timestatic@feddit.org · -12 pts · 36d
If you had the masses behind you they would vote in their best interest but you don't. If you try to accomplish this stuff without the support of the masses you lack legitimacy and it becomes tyranny. The masses have the power to change things and it doesn't need war for it. If you claim to speak or act in the interest of the masses without actually gaining their vote then you are actually putting your opinion of whats good for them above them.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 36d
You really need to read up on the history of American politics. You are a product of propaganda. Everything you are saying is entirely detached from reality.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 36d
Never have we as average people gotten rights, benefits, and good will from the wealthy. History is full of taking out owners of their houses and killing them or breaking their legs. Of burning down factories, of have a literal military engagement with protesting coal miners.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 36d
We have gotten those things from them, many times, when we used bricks and bullets to rip them from their cold dead hands.
timestatic@feddit.org · -14 pts · 36d
If you say so it must be true. The guy basically comparing every rich person with a nazi and calling for violence against them. But no, I'm the brainwashed one. Man what am I doing on this platform. The election system in the US is fucked up tho, I'll give you that. Your country voted Trump twice. How dumb can an electorate be? I'm european but have been a year in the US. The raw form of capitalism america employs is very problematic and not in the interest of the general population. Killing people until the system changes is not a societal movement. Thats still called terrorism. You guys have a constitution and a democracy that protects you. Your crooked government abuses the system but it can still be fixed. Killing CEOs won't fix the root cause. I understand the term Class War in the US context a bit more, but it doesn't need violence. You know who used violence? The Jan. 6th protestors. I bet the people on the side use similar arguments for their crooked ideology. From the outside I see this polarization and unwillingness to work with one another as the very breaking point of a country. The once oh so exceptional United States of America. If the violence leads to a civil war chances are the outcome won't be better than what was. People need to reach across the aisle. MLK is the one who lead the mass movement for rights of black people not Malcom X. Its always very easy to tell the other side they are uninformed or uneducated when you run out of arguments. I hope and believe you guys can still salvage your democracy. If you take up arms and violence, the other side will always reciprocate, remember.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 36d
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 35d
MLK was also an avowed socialist and spoke poorly of capitalism but they gloss over that in history. You sound like someone with enough privilege in their life that they haven't had to learn the hard truths of what exactly it's like to live in the USA. Especially if you're a minority or other out groups. This country has always been hostile and killing people in those groups. Stonewall was a riot and damned if we don't need another!
NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 36d
Quick question, which agency killed MLK?
And also lol, lmao even
What the fuck do you think every one of America's wars has been about? What were they doing in Vietnam, what did they do to every Arabic country they went into /have been going into?
architect@thelemmy.club · 2 pts · 35d
Oh you dont even live here. Kindly fuck now.
Squirrelanna@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 35d
Lawlessness? My squirrel in Ratatoskr the CEOs do not and have not ever given a single fuck about the law outside of how they can break it and shape it to exactly what they want. Why is THEIR lawlessness the kind we should tolerate?
timestatic@feddit.org · -1 pts · 35d
Nobody should have to tolerate lawlessness. CEOs and companies have more resources in court but it doesn't mean they are above the law or anything
FoxAlive@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 35d
I don't know what kind of world you live in the believe that. Have you ever have to fight a entity at the scale these big tech companies can afford?
You're going to go broke and they will stall you harass you and send you endless frivolous claims to the point you cannot do anything. Even worse is they have enough money where the courts and cops are on their side.
Squirrelanna@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 35d
Our president, a billionaire CEO, is literally avoiding jail time by trying to stay the president as long as possible. Come on.
timestatic@feddit.org · 1 pts · 35d
Your president is corrupt thats for sure. Any government cleaning up after Trump has the work cut out for them. Trump himself will probably never face proper justice as he is too old and won't live forever. Its very obvious how problematic the things are in the US. So rights need to be defended and political grassroots movements formed. Currently there is a lot of corruption but I hope this will not go all unpunished.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 36d
ok russian plant.
BigMacHole@thelemmy.club · 22 pts · 36d
AGREED! Murder is NEVER the Answer! UNLESS it's a Rich person killing ENTIRE Towns of People by Poisoning their Air and Water. THATS ok!
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 21 pts · 36d
It almost always is. That's why most countries have a military.
timestatic@feddit.org · -13 pts · 36d
Militaries are used as a matter of last resort normally. And its only a cause of bad diplomacy, if all else fails. Thats also why wars of aggression are frowned upon. Maybe not true for the US and their insane President but for every other place usually its only to defend. Murder isn't defending. If not under very specific circumstances its right to be frowned upon
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 36d
Oh! My mistake! You're new to this planet and its indigenous species. They REALLY like war! As a matter of fact it drives most of its math and science.
Here, stick this in your ship's AI and ask it to make a ratio between war and peace:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17449365-the-penguin-history-of-the-world
They even make entertainments of it!
https://youtu.be/fbT1fCHOjfI
timestatic@feddit.org · -8 pts · 36d
None of this invalidates my last statement. Europe hasn't had a war between EU members since it was founded. But it also has nothing to with my argument against using violent means in a half-working democracy when it comes to CEOs and individuals alike. And even in situation where wars are used I would say in most cases its not really a good answer since it comes at great costs
Nindelofocho@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 36d
You say its not the answer then what is the answer? The people making the laws have failed us. Any form of peaceful protests dont work. People are suffering and being killed.
Violence is a last resort yes and brother we are out of all the other resorts unfortunately. Its not the people’s fault to resort to violence but rather the oppressors that give no other option so if you want to be mad at someone be mad at them.
timestatic@feddit.org · 1 pts · 35d
I mean i wish everyone well. I fear that violence will not lead to the desired outcome. Once violence is normalized and things run their way the cat is out the box. And its possible you can't contain things. People online like here are pretty radicalized. Many speak out but most don't act for the fear of repercussions. I think change takes time and effort. I believe at least some Jan 6th protestors believed what they were doing was right and justified. The way people are reacting with my calls for levelheadedness makes me think they are another side of the same radical coin.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 36d
That's an odd choice. WWI and WWII started in Europe. What does the EU have to do with anything? Because you picked some arbitrary cutoff point that's supposed to mean anything?
timestatic@feddit.org · 1 pts · 35d
Internally the EU has been a strong diplomatic success. I'm showing that violence shouldn't be the only option for change because its not. Comparing civil infighting with state wars was very arbitrary to begin with
Katana314@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 36d
A lot of people will agree with the base sentiment "Violence is only justified when your life is threatened".
Well, a huge number of people don't really threaten in an obvious way by putting a gun in someone's face. They will cut off people's water, food, or air, or make such things prohibitively expensive to maintain. They will run legitimized "law enforcement strike operations", but in effect, what they're doing is from a state of peace, electing to murder people that have done them no harm.
Thankfully, or not, in 2025/2026, this stuff is a LOT more obvious than it was before. Politicians pointed out how recent initiatives would, provably, lead to thousands of deaths, and all of it was ignored with no counter-argument.
I agree with you about military being a matter of last resort. That's the way it is for anyone sane, and doesn't turn away the base point.
BrickEater@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 36d
Tell that to the billioneirs who regularly make choices that cost peoples lives lol. These corrupt fucks can't be voted out.
NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 36d
I think you're wrong about being in the social majority... https://www.axios.com/2025/01/09/luigi-mangione-approval-poll-gen-z
But regardless, I'm not sure what alternative you're left with when the people committing heinous acts take in profits instead of prison sentences. Especially for someone like Trump, who is actively making the world worse and more unsafe in a myriad of ways, it's clear he will never receive justice, nor will he ever willingly leave office. How else do you see people no longer suffering his "leadership"? I mean, I'm still hoping he keels over from natural causes, but it's still a wish for him to keel over.
timestatic@feddit.org · -10 pts · 36d
UHC CEO is a different position than OpenAI CEO. I dont defend Luigi Magione personally, but Sam Altman isn't a Healthcare CEO using shady business tricks and denying people healthcare which (which can end up killing them). Also in your poll, 45% isn't the majority.
And Gen Z also isn't representative for society in general. Young people often tend to have more extreme takes
JackFrostNCola@aussie.zone · 12 pts · 36d
Open AI? The company whos product has helped and encouraged multiple people (primarily teenagers) to commit suicide?
If putting the appropriate gaurdrails and safety systems in place to prevent this kind of output from your product is avoided because it eats too much into your profit margin i would say thats fairly sinister decision making.
Ok, how about CEO of palantir?
NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 36d
Right! Facebook making a whole business model around exploitation of teenage girls' body image issues pretty much proved the point to me that they're here to eat our children.
timestatic@feddit.org · -8 pts · 36d
They are putting guardrails down but the technology is statistical probability of tokens. The longer a conversation goes the more the technology goes off the path. I do think the companies should take some responsibility and compensate for incidents but killing the CEO doesn't remove the technology and only adds one death. The teenager that killed themself doesn't come back to life.
The CEO of Palantir has a fucked up world-view but he's mostly building tools for the government. The demands for general privacy should be strengthened to the government. If police can actually research crimes faster and it helps them catch criminals there can be an argument for them. Doesn't really make up for the lost privacy but such software exists and is bound to be developed, just depends who develops them and with which guidelines. Software for the military is nothing new. Their AI for picking targets to strike is ethically questionable even if humans give the final say. He could probably be considered legitimate military target by adversaries that are struck using his technology. In general weapon development or military advancements are a certain gray area. The US DoD is really overfunded tho. The US doesn't need bases in the entire world to protect its citizens. 1 tn dollars a year is crazy. Imagine how much good you could do with even half of that. I don't think killing him changes anything and its also a form of self-justice. I do not believe I am mandated to just go up to a man and kill them. Is Palantir an ethical company? Probably not. But I think he's not a war-criminal by developing a software platform and having a questionable world-view. My cry for democracy is to use whats left of democracy to change things the right way. Thats how MLK won the people over. Thats how societal change is done properly.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 36d
So detached from reality. You love the “official narrative” so very much.
timestatic@feddit.org · -3 pts · 36d
Its an ideal we need to strive for. Protect and fight for democracy or lose it. Once you fight disagreements with extrajudicial means the stability erodes for everyone. I don't care if people call me idealist. If you follow the categorical imperative its pretty clear honestly. You guys just want it the (supposed) easy way. But thats not the proper way. And it also won't be easy as with violence factions arise. I country in which violence is a normal means to resolve disagreement will arise. You know how Jan 6th rioters wanted to hang Pence? And actually killed officers in service? This type of crooked behavior will also become more common
Seldon@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 36d
You're almost there. Fight for democracy. The Nazis are in charge now and they're fundamentally dismantling our democratic institutions. These CEOs are instrumental in this dismantling, there's no more peaceful protests that will reverse this course. We've fought Nazis before, we'll do it again.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 36d
Idealism can go get fucked, we need reality based solutions. Again, you’re a god damned child.
FoxAlive@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 35d
The CIA said mlk had gay boy lovers and threw gay swinger parties before they ended up killing him you idiot.
Now there is Ai that does that for the likes of peter thiel. You go out there and be the next MLK if that's what you want to happen to you.
Breezy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 36d
Naw idr which one, but an ai ceo almost word for aord said they dont want to lose customers to suicide, but the fact that their model can be so open and frank is why its good.
Gecko4469@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 36d
As if mainstream platforms are bastions of constructive moderate takes? And yeah that’s one of the reasons democracy is important it’s much better than solving things through violence, but if you haven’t noticed democracy is getting gleefully eroded and some of these corporate types want it gone. I don’t believe in violence either but I’m not surprised by anyone’s comments here or anywhere else. And I’d still rather be on lemmy than a corporate platform because I think no corporation should be the invisible hand middleman for ‘the public sphere’
timestatic@feddit.org · -4 pts · 36d
I'm on Lemmy since I love the idea of federated platforms and open source software. I have a strong distaste for big platforms and addictive algorithms and big tech ad stalking. Just sometimes this political one-sidedness makes it hard to tolerate. I block communities and instances that I personally find distasteful. I block ML for example. I am interested in tech tho which is why I'm here.
My take on AI is different than many on here too tho. I believe under right usage and circumstances AI can be useful. I especially like Open weight and self-hosted models. As long as you're not trafficking or raping children or doing other disgusting acts I can just refuse to use their AI platform. Doesn't mean they deserve death, threats or attacks.
Cheebus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 36d
I think AI can have its benefits for science, technology and mathematics but its output should be thoroughly scrutinized. That said the legislatures i’ve personally spoken with show 0 interest in establishing any regulation.
The concerns I have aside from an even greater loss in everyone’s critical thinking and attention span stem from mass surveillance which the big CEOs are actively promoting.
I believe these people aim to cause at minimum the destruction of the middle class and seek to enshrine permanent control over human society as a hole.
They built bunkers for a reason, these are crimes against humanity and they should fear backlash because of the harm they are actively causing.
That said, i’m fine to round em up and send them to jail, or heck we can put em on one of Musks rocket and they can fuck off to Mars.
Gecko4469@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 36d
Yeah these people don’t care about the harm they’re causing or just ignore it. I feel the same way I’m down for just throwing them in jail or something I don’t need physical violence enacted on them. They’re completely careless and promote the erosion of freedom and personal liberty while hiding behind culture war nonsense and (at least in US) say they are the ones preserving it. It’s the hypocrisy that infuriates me mostly.
NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 36d
"products a side is producing"
This is not partisan, fencesitter.
The reason why these techbros are getting worried enough to hire meatshields is because they know the material conditions of the people they are fucking over WILL GET WORSE.
Our air is being poisoned.
The warehouses of electrical equipment that need an entire state's worth of power shake the homes with sub bass that works like an indirect LRAD
They either dump industrial waste into the water or just straight up piss warm bacteria loaded water right back into the water table after using it for cooling.
What happens when you take away everything that the most disenfranchised people have and then actively posion their entire neighbourhood?
You get people with nothing to lose, in a system that refuses to protect them when they do nothing but try to live their lives.
architect@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 35d
Murder is the illegal killing of humans. We are talking about legal defense.
timestatic@feddit.org · 1 pts · 35d
I doubt any judge or lawyer would seriously argue that is legal
Iambus@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 36d
Lemmy doesn't exactly have the most mentally stable of people here. It's a glorified mental asylum.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 35d
Deny people life saving procedures, thousands die a year, no one bats an eye about it.
Someone mercs a healthcare CEO for perpetuating social murder, everyone suddenly gives a shit about the fucking CEO.
timestatic@feddit.org · -9 pts · 36d
Haha lmao I know right. I knew I would be comment-bombed and downvoted for this. Its just annoying since I want lemmy and the fediverse to go to a more general in public. I mostly avoid politics on lemmy but this is a tech community. I quit most traditional social media and reddit since I like the idea of the fediverse a lot and open-source software in general as well as self-hosting. I think the algorithms and ad targetting is a big issue for me on there. Its just when I see threads like these I try to apply at least one voice of reason. So others know this is not the supposed normal (unless on lemmy of course). Just like this platform has a tankie problem.