I’m open to the possibility that it’s just me being more aware/sensitive to how people are driving around me too. And I’m not necessarily talking about drivers I have to interact with myself but just seeing what people are doing in general.
I’m open to the possibility that it’s just me being more aware/sensitive to how people are driving around me too. And I’m not necessarily talking about drivers I have to interact with myself but just seeing what people are doing in general.
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marine_mustang@sh.itjust.works · 127 pts · 4d
Since 2020. Covid broke a lot of brains. Once people started driving again, it’s like they forgot (or rejected) all the rules. Bad behavior that I rarely saw, like blatantly running red lights, aggressive driving, using turning lanes as passing lanes (even through intersections) went from rare to daily.
newtraditionalists@kbin.melroy.org · 36 pts · 4d
The red light situation is insane since then. People would always push it a bit here and there, but now i routinely see people with a red fly through an intersection after people with the green light have already entered the intersection. Social media has convinced simpletons that because they see "movies" of their own life on their devices that they have plot armor. And it will take a serious accident to make them learn otherwise. Its frightening as fuck to share the road with people like that.
tmyakal@infosec.pub · 35 pts · 4d
Reminds me of an old joke:
My car was in the shop, so I asked for a ride to the grocery store from my neighbor. He agrees, no problem, and we're off. The first time we come to a red light, he floors it and we dart through the intersection. There's a cacophony of horns and squealing ties, but we're unscathed.
I whip around to him, wide-eyed, and yell, "What the hell are you doing?! That was a red light!"
He smiles and says, "Don't worry, I watch my brother do that all the time. No problem."
I try to argue, but he keeps doubling down: "Never seen my brother get hit. Everyone just stays out of the way. It's totally fine," as we fly through one intersection after another, ignoring seemingly every red light in town.
Finally, mercifully, I see us pulling up to a green light. I reassure myself that we're almost there, and I'll be home soon.
But as we roll up to the green light, my neighbor slams hard on his brakes. The car behind us lays on their horn and skids to a sharp stop right behind us. I'm white as a ghost as I turn to my neighbor and demand to know why the hell we stopped at a green light.
"My brother could've been coming from the other way."
shartgargle@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 4d
Yup. I saw this twice this week, the first happened at a 4 way stop and everyone took their turns until one car just followed the car in front of them, knowing people will still be paused. The fucking gall of someone to not only skip the line, but blow a stop sign to do it. 4 way stops I've found to be the worst at seeing this kind of behavior.
The second was someone I work with, apparently. Not someone I know but they clearly work on my shift. Our building is right off the highway and I took the offramp to it and waited at the red light. Nobody was coming so I started to turn right on to the road toward work. Then I look left again and there's a black Dodge ram going easily 45 in a 30 just to slam on the brakes mid turn, halfway into the intersection when that light was red. I pull up behind him and the lights for the side street had just turned yellow, and this cum stain blows the red were stopped at early at full acceleration. Only to turn into the western parking lot of the place we work. The stupidest part of this story? We were 40 minutes early.
4am@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 4d
SO many people are GLUED to their phones at all times now, too. Every red light the 1st place car sits at the green until someone honks because they just CANNOT STOP DOOMSCROLLING.
I am a technology evangelist and I have been since I was quite young. I’m addicted to my phone. I admit using it while driving on rare occasions to like change to the next song or something, or adjust Waze at a red light. But dude, come the fuck on what are people DOING??
bzLem0n@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 4d
Using turning/bus lanes to cross intersections is something that I see that went from rarely to daily. It drives me crazy since they usually try to force their way back in to the lane once they cross.
Dhs92@piefed.social · 4 pts · 4d
I sometimes see people with their phone on their steering wheel while on the highway (in the US). People just don't give a fuck anymore and it's terrifying
SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 4d
You've an uptick in this type of behaviour coupled with a decline in enforcement.
You can go to countries where there are no traffic rules being enforced at all, but there's not the same wanton disregard for life that I see daily on US roads. Recently was in Houston and you couldn't pay me to live in that hellscape of entitled drivers.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 4d
It might be the age of most drivers around me but they all forgot how to use turn signals, how to merge onto a highway, what a yield sign means (hint: it’s not stop) and how to anticipate that they need to merge instead of waiting until the last minute and creeping into the other lane.
And just about every time it’s someone in a Subaru driving like they were beamed into a car and don’t know what they’re doing there.
Oh, and just about everyone comes to almost a complete stop to make any turn.
VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 4d
I'm generally fine with people stopping at yields. It slows things down, but it's still safe. There's actually one near my friend's house that has hedges blocking all view of the road to the west until you're right up on it, so I always stop at that one; can't see if there's anyone to yield to until you're almost inside the intersection.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4d
Oh, totally. But if we can all see that there isn’t any traffic slamming to a stop at a yield is a recipe for an accident.
Maybe they’re trying to get me to rear end them.
Zagam@piefed.social · 6 pts · 4d
Yeah. And people honking as soon as the light turns green. I got a dollar says the people that honk like that are the same people running reds making me not go when the light goes green.
tmyakal@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 4d
There's a lot of people clearly using red lights as opportunities to check their phone. If I can see a phone in their hand when the light turns green, I'm honking immediately.
socsa@piefed.social · 2 pts · 4d
Nah it's because people can't be off their phones for five fucking seconds and the light usually only lets four cars through so if you don't get on them quickly it will literally just be one asshole running the red.
EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 4d
When I was younger and had a larger vehicle, if someone honked at me less than a second after the light changes, and especially if I had my foot going for the gas... Well I hope you like sitting still because I'm now hitting the brake instead, and we would sit for another light cycle.
While I probably wouldn't do that nowadays, I'd be sorely tempted to brake check.
tektite@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 4d
Someone being slightly rude to you justifies you screwing up the flow of traffic for everyone?
fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com · 1 pts · 4d
You made me hit you
Fredselfish@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 4d
Or the fact that No and mean almost no one moves over for emergency vehicles on the side of the road. Did fucking they stop teaching that in drivers education?
socsa@piefed.social · 5 pts · 4d
The red light running is fucking wild. I feel like maybe ten times in my whole life I saw someone run a red light and now it's basically every day.
fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com · 3 pts · 4d
COVID demonstrated that the social contract is gone.
i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 4d
I seriously think this happened. I never used to see people signaling right and then turning left from a MIDDLE lane. People used to at least slow down at a red light before making a right turn. My dashcam went from an insurance policy to a highlight reel of absolute idiocy every time I drive.
I think it’s time everyone gets a road test every time they renew their drivers license.
iltoroargento@startrek.website · 2 pts · 4d
I just had a dude cut me off by barreling through three lanes of traffic with no blinker and then brake check me through the right turn in an intersection only to go ten miles per hour under the speed limit on the next street and hog the left turn lane.
Fuck cars. Fuck unsafe drivers.
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 41 pts · 4d
Hell yes, since the pandemic, it has been nuts. Especially how they behave in parking lots.
AmidFuror@fedia.io · 14 pts · 4d
I have noticed an uptick in the behavior that when you are backing out of a spot, people are more likely to speed up to get by you than stop and wait. When I can't see what traffic is coming, I back up slowly until I can see. Recently, I had one guy honk to let me know he was going to speed past. Thanks, I guess?
It's difficult to discern if it's statistically significant. Perhaps these are people who always back into their parking spaces due to automated parking on more vehicles. Maybe they have lost their empathy for people who back out of spaces. Meanwhile, I have to guess what they are doing and then wait for them when they suddenly stop and back up towards me to get into a spot they had driven past.
Pyotr@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 4d
Unless its a pull through spot, this is why you always back into parking spots. Its been this way for much longer than the time frame OP is talking about. Parking lot driving has always been a Mad Max experience
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 4d
That's a sure fine plan until you need to load something into your trunk or truck bed. If all you're transporting is your own two butt cheeks, it works fine.
That said, I waddle my bike backwards into parking spaces because it ain't got reverse.
spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 4d
The same thing happened after 9/11 and lasted for months. People were stressed, upset and angry and it really showed up in their driving.
We now have the Republicans and their malignant narcissist glorious leader actively destroying this country. Medical costs, housing and grocery prices (among other things) are completely out of control and keep getting worse and Trump claims affordability is a "hoax" while adding more tariffs. Nearly eradicated diseases are surging again and children are dying. Our food has become unsafe to eat. We're in a war that was completely unnecessary and the dotard in chief is shitting his pants and pretending he's a tough guy while crawling into food carts to hide. Nero isn't just fiddling while Rome burns, he and his ilk are smearing shit on the walls and actually lighting more fires.
People are naturally stressed, upset and angry, and it's again showing up in our driving.
DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 4d
What makes this worse is they actually don't have the humanity to care because to them you're just "poor people".
Arancello@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 4d
Actually, JD Vance calls them unhumans in his writings. they don’t deserve human rights because they aren’t human
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 4d
Not really. It sure can feel like it when you run into one, but people have been shit at everything since forever.
vapordays@leminal.space · 17 pts · 4d
Yes. Society is very ill. (pats society on head)
1egg4u@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 4d
The city I live in had 15 pedestrian deaths from cars as their previous record, this year we are up to 40.
Cars are rapidly increasing in size and weight, decreasing their visibility, and people wont get off their phones. I do also partially believe that covid hit cognitive function and that tough times are making people antsy and angry too.
SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 4d
I think the older we get, and the more we know how things "are supposed to go" we notice more when things don't go that way. I usually try to chalk it up to people that are inexperienced, elderly or not local. But there will always be people that are dicks because they can
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 4d
It was way worse before phones were outlawed while driving. Now, people are back on their phones while it’s illegal. It’s a legitimate issue, and a hard one to solve.
People are braking like 30% later because of distractions inside of cars. More recent automobiles can tolerate braking so suddenly, but older ones cannot. Phones, funny enough, have gentrified the roads via producing unsafe drivers
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 4d
And if they’re not on their phones they’re tapping on the giant iPad on the dashboard to change the HVAC settings.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 4d
I was at a friend’s place, and they had an oven with dials. Before I could even begin thinking of grandma and puppies, I had already ejaculated from the sheer beauty of it. It even had a numerical temperature gauge for every burner.
Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk · 11 pts · 4d
I actively enjoy being a polite and considerate driver.
If you’re not in a 2024+ Tesla there’s every chance I’ll let you out, buddy. I use my turn signals every damned time. On country roads I leave a big gap between me and the vehicle in front in case someone wants to overtake and needs to pull in. I move to the side of the lane when motorbikes are coming up from behind me and make sure to leave space for them to pull in too. I let trucks out if one’s trying to overtake another. If someone’s tailgating me, I pull over and let them past, imagining they’re a bomb disposal tech heading to a school for blind orphans to save those poor kids. “God speed, you crazy bomb whisperer!”
Life is good.
THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 4d
People on their phones at red lights is insane. And then they have the absolute fucking nuts to look at you in the mirror when you beep at them for almost missing the entire turn arrow, like you're the moron. Blows my nuts off. I gotta get out of the city, man.
FatVegan@leminal.space · 4 pts · 4d
I'm at a point where i'm glad they use the phone on a red light.
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4d
I routinely see people scrolling while driving, if they all kept it to red lights that would be a step up but even then I’ve been stuck between a screaming ambulance and some asshat who is not paying attention to anything but the phone
one_old_coder@piefed.social · 9 pts · 4d
In France, during the past 10 years, yes. Most people around don't stop at stop signs anymore. They don't even pretend to slow down. It's like driving schools have stopped teaching the basics to young drivers (who are now 30/40 and still drive like morons).
If you're a shitty driver (BMW or VW), come to France! There are no cops on the road except once a year around Christmas to pretend they still exist.
chunes@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 4d
People ALWAYS say that drivers have gotten worse since [date] or that [my-local-area] drivers are the worst. I remember people saying this 30 years ago.
I am aware that pedestrian deaths are up in the US, which can be attributed to phones and vehicles increasing in mass. Other than that, let's see the data.
XeroxCool@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d
"The younger generation these days has lost their respect for elders, has become too reliant on technology, would rather be entertained than educated, and represents a decline in humanity"
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 4d
It seems so, but I don't have any data to back this up so it's yet another anecdote. Speaking as someone who spends a lot of time on a motorcycle, though, I feel that I probably have a keener eyeball out for this sort of thing than most.
People kind of went insane during the COVID lockdowns and as far as I can tell remained at that approximate level of insanity in the years afterwards, whereas the number of vehicles on the road returned right back to its original level.
AmidFuror@fedia.io · 7 pts · 4d
There are a lot of distracted drivers who think as long as they match the speed of the car in the lane next to them, no one will know they are doing something on their phone. Meanwhile, the whole road is blocked by people doing 10 miles under the limit because they're relying on each other to pay attention.
The number of people who will sit until honked at when the light turns green also seems higher. Motherfucker, if you're first in line you have an obligation to watch the signal!
blattrules@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 4d
I’ve noticed this too, everyone is on their phone now and not paying attention, then they get mad when you are forced to pass them on the right or honk at them at the light. Everyone has their heads up their asses now.
ToiletFlushShowerScream@piefed.world · 7 pts · 4d
No, not personally. Have you considered other factors such as a change in local population (increased traffic), new local stressors (stressed people drive aggressively), has your driving perspective changed (higher driving standards as you get older or have kids)? I'm willing to accept my local area may be an outlier too.
tanisnikana@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 4d
I’ve seen endless people not using their blinkers, and I’ve seen people diving over two, three, four lanes of freeway to make their exit, I’ve seen people changing lanes in the goddamn well-marked no lane change tunnel, speeders and super slow drivers alike,
and I think it would prolly be for the best if the standards to get a license were much, much higher.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 3d
nah it's fucked now. and as a result, I'm more aggressive as well
had a guy last night with LED bulbs in halogen housings pull up across the red light. put my highbeams on because I couldn't fucking see. he turned his LED highbeams on. when the light turned green, they swerved towards me.
funny thing is, that's similar to what I do when I'm being blinded - I drift towards the center of the road so I don't go into the ditch. but this guy thought I instigated the situation when I was just responding to him instigating the situation.
nobody won. we're both pissed off. it's stupid. but fuck the assholes, nothing will change unless there are consequences. so I'm gonna try to make consequences for them. and that means I appear as just one more asshole on the road to others.
another peeve of mine is driver aids. it's made people so goddamn bad in parking lots. I don't give a fuck that your backup alarm wasn't going, I'M WALKING HERE, and "I didn't see you" isn't a fucking excuse or apology for you being a dangerous shit driver. fuck you.
RoddyStiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 4d
Yep. Coinciding directly with the proliferation of massive trucks with 10 seats and 600 horsepower engines and a bed too small for a TV to fit in.
SGGeorwell@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d
Check this shit out
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 4d
Had a few people scream at me when I am cycling to work on the few sections I have to use roads with cars on.
Recent one I was cycling along and someone pulls out into my lane and expected me to move over for them. Nah, you fucking wait, this is my lane not yours. I can stand in the road with you shouting for a lot longer than it takes for you to reverse back to where you should be waiting.
areakode@riskeratspizza.com · 5 pts · 4d
I wish I lived in a first world country who could provide reasonable public transportation so I didn't have to deal with driving for EVERYTHING in my life.
YoFrodo@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 4d
No, in my experience it has always been bad
remon@ani.social · 4 pts · 4d
Not really. But the amount of asshole on e-scooters has gone through the roof!
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4d
Yesterday I witnessed nearly the perfect convergence, which was a guy on an electric kick scooter trying to split through lanes to run a red light and very nearly getting run over by a woman in an Altima (of course it was an Altima) diving all the way across three lanes from the far left to attempt to make an illegal right turn on red.
They came within inches of hitting each other. Ultimately it was the scooter dude who dodged.
nutcase2690@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 4d
The thing that is pissing me off recently is that when people stop at a light with wayy too much room in between their car and the one in front of them. I think it is a byproduct of many drivers not being able to visualize how large their car is Like seriously, most people leave enough room to fit an extra car or two at the stopped light. Imo it contributes heavily to how many cars can actually pass at a green light, and it makes traffic so much worse.
NABDad@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 4d
Counterpoint:
The last time I was rear-ended, I was in stop-and-go traffic going uphill. Every time I moved a few feet and stopped, the car behind me would pull right up to within a few inches of my bumper. It was driving me crazy.
Sure enough, the person behind him hit him, then he hit me.
The rule from the book when I was teaching my kids to drive was: You're supposed to stop when you can still see the where the rear wheels of the car in front of you touch the street. If your good obstructs the view, you're too close. If you can see street between your car and their tires, you're too far.
nutcase2690@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 4d
Few inches is certainly too close-- I am not saying to go until you can see the white of the driver's eyes in the rear view mirror, but a whole two car lengths is too much at a stop light
Granted, if you are stopping following the rules of the book and you are in a car with one of those absurdly high hoods (to the point where almost a dozen children can sit in front of your car and you can't see them), then it is still a huge distance.
Sabata11792@ani.social · 1 pts · 4d
I don't trust the ass hole behind me to use there breaks and I'm liable if you push me into them.
XeroxCool@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d
Dashcam.
NABDad@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 4d
Reading over the responses from people here, I'm realizing that Philly drivers really are as bad as I believe they are.
Most of the responses here describe what I've been seeing in Philly for decades. Running red lights, blowing through stop signs, turning right on red from the left-turn-only lane. I refer to that as the "Philly Right Turn". There's also a "Philly Left Turn" (AKA, turning left on red from the right-turn-only lane) which is slightly more advanced because it involves crossing at least one additional lane of moving traffic.
I had a guy hit me because he went straight in the right-turn-only lane and the road had a dog-leg at the intersection because of construction. He said it was my fault because "everyone does it". His insurance didn't agree with his argument, and I got my deductible paid (thanks, dashcam).
When I was in college 30 years ago, I used to joke that Philly drivers should have their horns linked to their brakes so that when they leaned on their horn to warn other drivers that they were going to run the red light, the car would automatically brake instead. That wouldn't work since then because people stopped bothering with the warning honk.
The things I've seen change more recently is what I mentioned in my other comment: driving on the wrong side of the road and driving while staring at their phone.
Xerxos@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 3d
Might be a couple of reasons. Corvid, economic downturn, political turmoil. People are just more stressed - and rightfully so, as the world is a clown show, currently.
notsosure@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 4d
I’ve noticed over the many years I’ve been driving (1) it depends on coincidence (sometimes there are suddenly ten jerks in a month instead of the average of two -plain statistics) 2) it depends on me (if I drive defensive, it seems every one does so too).
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 3d
They're easy to identify around here, most drive a pick up. As for the uptick, a lot of people only were decent drivers because they drove regularly. COVID and they lose the constant practice they needed to remain just decent. Add in that there's a lot of anger directed by males, who I find a higher percentage of these drivers, to others around them and yeah. It's a breeding ground of shit drivers. Add in that younger drivers are hot blooded typically and it answers the majority of them.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 3 pts · 4d
I've certainly seen an increase in people driving oversized cars. Those are rude and dangerous even if the drivers tried to drive defensively. It's the physical embodiment of "fuck you, I got mine".
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 4d
Last year things really escalated here. Between the never ending and always expanding construction, price rises and whatnot, everyone is pissed off all the time.
xenomor@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4d
Yes, and the trend feels like it’s correlated with the number of Teslas around here.
oh_@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4d
Yes. Jackass drivers run through crosswalks and stop signs, then have the guts to yell at pedestrians. Cars act like they own the road. Bicycles are very common in my neighborhood, and yet drivers act like they shouldn't share the road with them too. (SoCal)
BeerStainedBunny@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 4d
Yeah people seem more self centered now. They always have to go first even when pedestrians have the right of way. At least that's what I've seen.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 4d
Yes, because police stopped working after Antifa demonstrations in 2020.
Either way they get paid.
Hadriscus@jlai.lu · 2 pts · 4d
It's going to vary a lot by location, I'm not sure there is even a consistent worldwide tendency for vehicular aggressiveness. I haven't noticed one myself in Marseille or Mayotte over the 16 years I've been driving
MuttMutt@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4d
Yep. And it gets worse every year.
I avoid major areas every chance I get.
Too many people with the me me me, and whatever aditude on the road.
Zomg@piefed.world · 2 pts · 4d
I've noticed an uptick in people that drive with their high beams on over the last 5+ years
psud@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 4d
Both of my cars turn on high beams automatically on dark roads when they can't see other vehicles
The not as good at it as me though, the cars don't see the headlights of an oncoming car illuminating the side of the road, they need to see the headlight directly
Zomg@piefed.world · 1 pts · 4d
Mine does that too, but I have to switch it on first, it's pretty quick and switching between the modes
verdigris@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 4d
Likely just the increasing brightness of the bulbs. Lots of times I will assume someone has high beams on only to see them flick even brighter once I go past them.
Zomg@piefed.world · 2 pts · 4d
I've thought about that, but it's not too hard to tell when the light cluster has both on at the same time (not the fog lights)
verdigris@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 4d
I've seen dozens of different light cluster designs, I don't think you can visually tell unless you're familiar with the car in question and they haven't gotten aftermarket lights.
Zomg@piefed.world · 1 pts · 4d
Generally they're all within the main light cluster. Fog lights are towards the bottom. It's much more apparent on older cars than newer ones I will admit.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4d
The high beams are also closer to the center on basically all extant cars. Some older models have dual filament single sockets but these seem to be steadily going away, with the notable exception of Jeep Wranglers.
Zomg@piefed.world · 1 pts · 4d
Sounds about right to me
schnapsman@feddit.org · 2 pts · 3d
I wonder if the most recent people to switch to public transport and cycling were the nicest remaining drivers. Where I live at least, it seems this could be playing a major role.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 3d
theory holds out for me. I cycle a lot more now when I used to drive. I drive less now because it fucking sucks and makes me angry.
DioramaOfShit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4d
Yes
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 2 pts · 4d
Not really. The roads here have always been filled with jackasses that should never have been given liscenses. Ironic for a city that is pretty much iconic to car heads (American Graffiti was filmed here); full of dipshits that can't fucking drive.
psud@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 4d
Drivers were definitely more aggressive and dangerous 20 years ago than now where I live
gratux@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 4d
Maybe a little more irrational and chaotic, haven't noticed much change in aggression or rudeness. Just more impulsive decisions, like switching lanes at the last moment. Just today I witnessed a near collision between three cars who were all abrubtly switching lanes simultaneously almost into each other.
Soulinyx@piefed.world · 1 pts · 4d
berno@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d
Yeah and they all have student driver bumper stickers
manxu@piefed.social · 1 pts · 4d
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 3d
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d
Traffic fatalities in the U.S. have been pegged at 40,000 per year for decades, in spite of the number of drivers going up every year. So, by that broad statistic, things have been improving.
XeroxCool@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 4d
More people, the stagnant stat looks good. Safer cars, the stagnant stat looks bad. Collisions that have nearly always been non-fatal, the stagnant stat is irrelevant. It'd take actual numbers on the two uncertainties to really know how to feel about the steadiness of raw fatalities
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4d
question, is the 40k deaths related to the square meter of road availability? if we increased the amount of roads drastically wouldn't that increase fatalities?
when an accident happens, traffic slows and most drivers become more aware of their surroundings. this can lead to other minor fender benders that don't lead to fatalities and so aren't tracked within the 40k.
tldr: are the 40k fatalities dependent on the square meter of open road in-which to have a fatal accident?
BartyDeCanter@piefed.social · 1 pts · 4d
I have and wow is it bad. I see people blatantly run reds, including changing into the oncoming lane or the shoulder to pass people stopped at them every day I drive. Same with stop signs and even sometimes in school zones.
I know people have issues with self driving cars, but I’d rather the streets be full of Waymo’s than human drivers at this point. (Yes, I’d really prefer public transit and bikes, but that’s another matter)
chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d
Nah, I'd rather the maniac attempting to kill me from the car next to me to also be in that car. Ya know, mutual assured destruction. With Waymos, the maniac is sitting behind a computer somewhere else. Which I'm very much not down for
BartyDeCanter@piefed.social · 1 pts · 4d
Er, do you think that Waymos are just remote controlled cars?
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4d
It's not a matter of think. Waymo themselves admitted that whenever one of their cars gets into a pickle that it can't figure out, which is more often than most people would probably feel comfortable with, control is handed over to remote operators who are apparently located in the Philippines.
Article: https://www.autoblog.com/news/waymo-uses-remote-workers-in-the-philippines-to-assist-its-self-driving-cars
Waymo claim that their remote operators are not actually operating the vehicle per se, no sir, but instead are offering it "guidance" on what to do. If you believe that's actually the case I have a bridge to sell you. I imagine this is rather to avoid the obvious legal question in that how in the hell is somebody located in the Philippines who has a zero percent chance of holding a valid US driver's license allowed to steer a car that's here?
NABDad@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d
I have no more insight into how Waymo manages these overrides than anyone else, but I don't find it unbelievable that a remote operator with access to an interface to the autopilot and an ability to see the data it is presented with could direct it to ignore an incorrectly identified obstacle and continue.
It seems to me that it would be a hell of a lot safer and easier to correct the mistaken decision of the autopilot and let it continue than to rely on a connection from halfway around the world for real time vehicle control.
However, like I said, I have no insight into how it works.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 1 pts · 4d
yes but I would say more than the last few. It just another thing that makes the teens of this millenium noticibly worse than previous.
dan1101@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d
Yes, over the last few years. I haven't seen it get noticeably worse recently, but things like blowing through red lights and turning whenever you like are happening all the time.
A recent trends I've noticed is tons of people driving with one hand and holding their phone up with the other, looking at it.
And also people going very slow, like 25MPH in a 55MPH zone.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 4d
Actually no, just...more people on the road. Rush hour is rush most-of-the-day now, compound that by it's impossible to grocery shop at 2AM now.
DGen@piefed.zip · 0 pts · 4d
Covid. Since then a loooot of stuff shifted. The time being isolated did not do well on some people.
People are more aggressive since then. Also that a Lot of bad stuff happens to everyone.. with Not recognizing where it comes from.
Yeah. World divided is easier to rule
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 4d
As you age you’re likely slowing down, becoming more timid, and as a result of that are becoming an obstacle on the road for people to avoid instead of being a part of traffic. This perspective shift will make it seem like other drivers are being more aggressive than before, because to you they probably are.
Tiral@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 4d
I wish they would ticket the fuck out of people driving in the left lane for no reason. I get in front of them and drop my cruise like 1mph a minute until they get over then go back to 10 over.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d
welcome to my block list chud.
NABDad@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 4d
I think it's a combination of fallout from the pandemic and BLM protests.
During the pandemic traffic disappeared. If you were one of the unlucky few who still had to go on-site to work, the first thing you noticed was there was no traffic. What was a 1.5 hour commute previously was a 45 minute commute during the shutdown. When people started driving again it was like they all forgot how to do it.
Regarding the change in driving habits, the most dramatic example I've seen is people crossing the double yellow line to pass cars. I never used to see that, but it's almost routine now. I've seen people do it in areas where they can't even see oncoming traffic. Crossing over into the other lane to pass 20 cars sitting at a red light. It's insane.
Apart from all that there's also so many more people with their eyes glued to their phone when they are driving. You see someone swerving all over the road for miles, and if you get close to them they are always looking at their phone.
EDIT:
Re BLM, in some cases police policies directed officers not to get involved in traffic stops. In other cases, I think butthurt cops decided if they weren't allowed to abuse brown people, they'd just refuse to do anything.
Crashumbc@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 4d
Wow such slander, this had nothing to do with BLM dumbass.
NABDad@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 4d
It would be libel, not slander (slander is spoken, libel is written).
Who would be the target of this alleged libel?
Crashumbc@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 4d
Still mentally broken good bye.
NABDad@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 4d
Still didn't respond to my question. Are you thinking I libeled the Black Lives Matter movement, or do you think I libeled the police? Which erroneous assumption have you made?