Gamers of Lemmy, how do you mouse on the couch?

I'm not a gamer, but I like some casul games from time to time, like Timberborn or Shapez. Yesterday I wanted to start a game again, after a period of not gaming since february or so. I've been getting used to sitting in my comfy chair in the evening, doing some programming or some online ciurse. I would like to game in my comfy chair as well, instead of sitting behind my desk where I've been working all day. But games demand much more intense mouse usage. A mouse does not work very well on an armrest. Have any of you solved that problem?

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schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 1d

I'm KBM at my desk, but controller on the couch.

If you insist on mousing, you're going to have to engineer yourself a stable flat surface. Options really depend on available anchor points and how permanent you want it, but start with a board and figure out how to to attach it, screws, clamps, dowels, zip ties, extra-strength velcro-strips....

If it's a couch upholstered arm rest, make it a table with the leg going to the floor on one side, and between the cushions on the other.

Worse case scenario, ditch the armrests and just put the board on your lap.

Edit: maybe thumb (trackball) mouse or trackpad.

semperverus@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 1d (2 replies)

Steam controller.

The trackpads are great and weirdly make a decent keyboard too.

Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 1d (1 reply)

Does it work like the steamdeck?

porkloin@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d

Yes it’s basically a steam deck minus screen with a few extra bits. But the trackpad and Steam input and on screen keyboard are all the same as Steam deck

PriorityMotif@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1d (9 replies)

Logitech Ball mouse. You move the ball with your thumb and your hand stays still. Takes a little getting used to.

quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 1d (2 replies)

That's a trackball. A ball mouse is a regular mouse from 30 years ago.

Strider@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d (1 reply)

Exactly, trackball, lol

quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 1d

When I read ball mouse I almost had a stroke, those things needed constant maintenance.

BigGovernment@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d

This probably isn't what you're talking about, but I miss the old Trackman Marble mice. I had a Trackman Marble FX that I used for years until I finally upgraded to USB.

JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social · 1 pts · 1d (4 replies)

Unfortunately I found that taxing on my thumb over time. What I use instead in those situations is a proper trackball, with fingers controlling the ball and thumb on buttons.

LostCarcosan@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 1d (3 replies)

I got a Ploopy Adept almost a year ago now and it has quickly become my main mouse. I love that thing. Only problem is lack of feedback when scrolling makes some games where you have to scroll to select things, like Minecraft, a teensy bit more annoying

JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social · 1 pts · 1d (2 replies)

I have a Kensington trackball with scroll ring. Yours is probably way better for gaming (dig all the buttons), but as a person with early arthritis, I love how easy this is on the hand, and the scroll ring is just awesome for fine adjustments and webpage browsing, both.

https://www.google.com/search?q=kensington+trackball+with+scroll+ring&udm=2

I'm sure there's better stuff out there, but it's been years since I was collecting trackballs. (and the Logitech stuff was generally disappointing from back in the day)

LostCarcosan@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 1d (1 reply)

I considered that one, as well. I really liked the scroll ring, but opted for the Ploopy for more buttons. The top ones are not particularly convenient to reach all the time, but are definitely necessary. Just wish someone would make a decent trackball with a clicky scroll wheel and multiple buttons!

JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social · 1 pts · 1d

In any case, I can understand the undeniable, magnetic attraction of the word "Ploopy!" :D

BigGovernment@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1d

Mostly a Steam controller. It works in almost every application or game.

I've also got a trackball for the few cases where the controller doesn't work. I don't use it very often because I don't think there's a comfortable way to use it on the couch without using a lapdesk or something.

AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 1d (6 replies)

Trackball mouse, either wired or wireless. No need to move the mouse at all besdes to get it into a comfortable position.

Only thing you really gotta worry about from there is occasionally removing the ball and cleaning where it rests from gunk that builds up and causes friction.

Chozo@fedia.io · 4 pts · 1d (3 replies)

I love trackballs, and I wish there was a bigger market for gaming trackball mice.

AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 1d (2 replies)

I personally wouldn't have much of a use for gaming trackball mice, but I would absolutely buy one. Imagine a trackball that has a ball that rolls smooth as butter. Pure heaven!

Chozo@fedia.io · 1 pts · 1d (1 reply)

Check out the Elecom Huge! I think there's a more premium model of it that has extra-smooth rollers, but I've got the base version and it's smooth enough for general use. I can't really use it for aiming in FPS games because it jitters a bit no matter what DPI setting I use (maybe something else the premium model fixes, as well), but the shape and button positions are spectacular for most other use, IMO.

AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 1d

I'll keep that in mind. My current Elecom was a good purchase, so it'll probably be a few years before I switch, but definitely gonna keep it in mind.

CADmonkey@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d (1 reply)

You also have to make sure the cat doesn't knock it down, sending the loose trackball to the lowest corner of the living room floor.

AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 22h

As someone without cats, or dogs that'll disturb me too much, I'm grateful I don't have that problem.

runner_g@piefed.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 1d (1 reply)

I use a large sketchbook as a mousepad. The sketchbook sits on a pillow to lift it to the appropriate height. Works great.

adarza@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1d

i used to have a lap desk attached to the top of a beanbag-like pillow. same type of thing my mom and grandma would use to do crafts and stuff while they watched their 'stories' (soaps).

GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
  1. sock off
  2. mouse on floor
  3. foot mouse
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de · 7 pts · 1d

The Steam Controller with its two trackpads and gyroscope paired up with Steam Input which lets you configure the controller (even non-Steam controllers) very granularly to your liking.

For shooters the best setup for me is to use the right stick for broad aiming and the gyro for precision.

For strategy and management games I use the right trackpad as a mouse and the left trackpad for hotkeys. In StarCraft I set up the left trackpad to be contained to the area on the screen where the selected unit's functions are displayed. Not good enough for multiplayer, but good enough for casual play.

too_high_for_this@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d (1 reply)

Get a lap desk

kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 20h

I have one and ergonomically it sucks. I don't use that often though. Any recommendations?

defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 1d

OG Steam Controller (I have the new one as well, but I'm not a big fan of the ergonomics).

CADmonkey@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d

Trackball!

Drusas@fedia.io · 4 pts · 1d

Lapdesk

Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 16h

I'm not much of a power user on the living room PC but I use a handheld keyboard and touchpad mouse combo with rechargeable AAA batteries like this one for regular browsing.

Zarobi@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1d

I got a "CouchMaster" desk thing for working from home. Works pretty well. It's hard to setup an ergonomic couch though. It was very expensive for what it is though

THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d

I just use a fat pillow and put a small mousepad on it if need be.

DonkeyStar@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d

You may find that a different mouse will work better. For instance, I have an MX Master 3 that won’t register movement at all on my couch. Meanwhile a cheap little $15 mouse reads just fine.

Unrelated, I miss my MX Master 2. The wheel was so much better.

newbeni@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d

Definitely not a gamer but what about one of those little tables for serving breakfast in bed?

HubertManne@piefed.social · 2 pts · 1d

touchpad and thumb trackball are what I use.

ladicius@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d

Switch 2, pro controller, lying relaxed on the couch, resting hands with controller in my lap. I can comfortably keep this position for hours.

You will never make me sit at a desk and screen to relax. It'd be a contradiction in itself.

neidu4@piefed.social · 2 pts · 1d

My usual gaming position is in my livingroom couch, keyboard in lap, mouse on the pillow next to me, and feet on the table next to my laptop. Mouse works fine in the couch. As long as it's not a reflective surface, it should work fine. Mine is cloth, so it's no problem.

Protip: I travel a lot, and often find myself in hotel rooms, trying to operate a mouse while in bed. Because I always travel with a plastic cutting board (regular white one I found at a shopping mall in Bahrain). It works well as a mouse pad, for when the sheets are no longer stretched perfectly flat. It also fits perfectly the bottom of the pelicase in which I carry my laptop.

noxypaws@pawb.social · 2 pts · 1d

Regular mouse and keyboard but on a lapboard with powered USB extension back to my PC.

Mine's an older, RGB-less (thankfully) version similar to this:

https://us.nerdytec.com/collections/couchmaster%C2%AE/products/couchmaster-lapboard3-gaming-lapdesk

Erusset@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 1d

Lap desk, book on the coach next to me, but steam deck/steam controller mostly

Wolf314159@startrek.website · 2 pts · 1d

Not much of a PC gamer, but I have had a need to use a mouse without a desk. I swear by trackball mice. Personally I've been happy with the wireless Logitech trackball offerings, particularly the one with Bluetooth and a dongle you can tuck away into the mouse. Even at a regular desk, doing CAD work all day, it has saved my shoulder and wrist from stress and pain. I can basically sit in a relaxed neutral position and use my mouse wherever my hand falls, like on an arm rest. It may take some adjustment learning to use your thumb to navigate around, but for me it has been worth it.

Interstellar_1@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 1d

KDE Connect Remote Input for me, but I mostly play mouse games on my desktop.

cRazi_man@europe.pub · 2 pts · 1d

I don't. Controller is for couch.

If I want to game with KB+M then I stream my lounge gaming rig to my desk workstation with Moonlight/Sunshine.

You could come up with some elaborate setup of lap tray or Steam Controller or Trackball or controller remapping...... They're all inferior to being at your desk.

Doom@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 18h

I have a lap desk similar to the one below. Easy to pick up or put aside as needed.

Edit: You should also consider tackball mice. They are great in limited spaces.

lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 16h

the top of my coffee table lifts up so it works like a desk. I've also used a table next to my recliner if I wanted to relax.

charokol@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 1d

I’ve had a Corsair K63 with lapboard for years and’s have no complaints

BurgerBaron@quokk.au · 1 pts · 1d (2 replies)

I use my PC in the living room more than my office desktop these days so I've bought a bunch of shit.

So you'll spot the usual Logitech K400 Plus on my couch because it's the only available option for a trackpad wireless keyboard combo unit with physical left/right mouse buttons. Then I also use a separate wireless mouse, which works just fine on my couch arm fabric as is for regular browsing. K400 Plus is not backlit and it's creaky af, but the "competition" is tragically worse.

Generally I'll opt to use controllers for games, but sometimes I need a proper mouse+kb so I bought a cushioned wood lap desk and a better mechanical keyboard and then I reuse the mouse with it. Most recently Minecraft Eternal 2.

adarza@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 1d (1 reply)

i use an old one (the blue accented one) of those keyboards as my 'remote control' when i'm watching on the 'tv'. works pretty well for that.. running a media player and web streaming. i did try doing actual 'work' with it once, but i had to connect a different keyboard to do any serious typing.

BurgerBaron@quokk.au · 1 pts · 18h

Same here with the trackpad kb. Originally my weaker computer was living room just for using Stremio with Debrid. It's pretty crap for any serious work yep lol.

friend_of_satan@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d

I do all my PC gaming from the couch using one of those drawing boards with a pillow on the bottom, and a normal mouse and keyboard. I think we bought the drawing board for the kids, but I use it for gaming (and general PC use) almost exclusively.

Widdershins@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d

Trackball mouse.

Kolanaki@pawb.social · 1 pts · 1d

I have a little table that straddles the arm rest of my chair. But it's uncomfortable for long periods.

hexagonwin@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 16h

i usually use a thinkpad on the couch and it has a trackpoint.

KiwiTB@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d

Steam controller

Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 17h

At a friend's house we had a thin mouse surface sheet stuck to the front cover of a Warhammer 40k 6th Edition Rulebook.

You could also take inspiration from Timberborn and chew one out of wood yourself.

tmyakal@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 17h

I didn't see anyone else mention mine: gyroscopic mouse. It's basically a Wiimote connected via USB dingle. It's good for strategy games. I'm not big on FPS, but I imagine it's doable.

Fondots@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d

Trackball, currently a Gameball Thumb and I'm pretty happy with it but I do wish it had just a couple programmable buttons.

I also have an old steam controller that filled the role pretty well once I got the settings figured out how I wanted them. After a lot of years though, the touchpad click has started to crap out on me though, I think I can fix it but I just haven't gotten around to it. The new steam controller would probably be as good or better but I haven't gotten my hands on one to say for sure yet.

Console_Modder@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1d

I put the mouse right on my fat fucking thighs

JK I ain't got no thickness to me. Keyboard and mouse gaming stays on the desk and controller gaming is for the couch. Looks like some other people recommended a lap desk, so yeah. Go with that

kettuli@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d

Two people sitting on a 3-person couch, plenty of room to mouse on my left side.

mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 1d

mouse pad on big wide armrest

use something to create an armrest, like a box or book

but mostly I just don't do it, my hands and arms can't take using a mouse and keyboard that much anymore

HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 1d

I got a big enough armrest to use a mouse on.

chunes@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d

Look into trackballs. you can just set them on your lap and they are much more precise and easy to use than I was expecting. that said, you're not gonna be winning any counter-strike tournaments with one.

tal@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 1d

I don't on the couch, but occasionally I do on my bed. Not stuff like first person shooters, but less-frentic mouse based stuff.

I have a USB trackball and a USB trackpad, and I'll use one of those.

I am not as accurate or quick as I am with a mouse with either of those, but both work fine without a rigid, level surface.

EDIT: My problem for use on a bed isn't really the mouse, but the keyboard. I have used a split ergo keyboard, with one half on each side, but even that isn't amazing. I don't have a reasonable way to do much typing if you're not sitting up.

MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 21h

I've yet to have a setup for mouse and keyboard. I've just used controller with steam input. But i plan on getting or making a folding table that i can use.

My main gaming pc is used like a htpc in my loft, so not my main living area, with an "occassional chair", kinda like a smaller armchair. So it shouldn't be too bad to whip something up that would fit that but i like to have things fully planned out before starting and my ADHD stops me from fully planning. Here's hoping i get it sorted some day soon in the next five years haha

Purple_drink@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d

I cut a piece of wood. One side sits on the arm rest, the other side has a pillow I use to prop it up. Works great!

CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 1d

On the couch I use a Logitech K400r keyboard with touchpad for basic navigation, but for couch gaming just go with a controller. If you need pointer control, get a Steam Controller and use the trackpads.

quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1d

Three words: Couch arm table

the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d

I use a logitech K400 and a bluetooth xbox or ps4 controller on the couch. Any game that needs intensive mouse usage gets played at a desk.

mappe@moplemmy.fyi · 1 pts · 1d

Couch with high arm rest, firm pad underneath.

cattywampas@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d

I just put that shit on the couch right next to me.

whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1d

If you're looking for some lightweight wood that can take a beating and is cheap to use on your lap as a surface I'd get some bamboo

AstroLightz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 17h

You can use a trackball. Not great for FPS games but good enough for casual games.

Cossty@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d

I have the best cozy/lazy setup imo. Desk with pc next to bed. Monitor with monitor arm on the edge of the desk. Then just move monitor above bed. Bt mouse and keyboard works great on bed.

Melobol@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 1d

I have an aluminium mouse pad.
In the past I was gaming from my bed: lap table with cooling fans on top for the laptop and the high-res mousepad on the bed.

Nowadays I mostly play controller but I have a regular aluminum mousepad when I need it - but I no longer play demanding mouse games on the couch.

Mantzy81@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 1d

K400r. But I still prefer a controller (I have a couple of 8bitdo, an NVIDIA controller, steam controller or a PS4 one too)

HeHoXa@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 1d

There are so very many devices geared towards this issue. I don't think I have anything to add to comments lready here except that you should try a few of the optuons if possible and see what vibes best with you and your specific setup.

myyass@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1d

You can use a ducky mini 2 (60%) (three levels of keys/macros and mouse function); but really just use a controller. Or just get $1200 Steelcase chair and get the mouse pad addition. Also you can get a laptop stand for like $40 and use that, as in they can slide under your chair and give you platform to put your mouse and drinks on.

slazer2au@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 1d

I don't because that shit is bad for your wrists and forearm.