"too literal" is inherently subjective. Too literal to whom? What if my friends group is also neurodivergent as fuck, does this invalidate me then because it's the new neurotypical?
I conclude that we need tests for what's usually thought off as "normies". If they know about their rhetorical precision deficits surely they can get therapy to solve that issue and integrate better into society.
Seriously. I get the impression that some people don’t like to engage with me at work because I try to be precise to the necessary degree. I work with software, so the degree of precision I need to use to express the behaviour of a system is decently high. I do a conscious effort to be only as technical as the context requires, often opting for being not technical at all when engaging people whose job is not technical.
A few days ago I was in an email chain that went something like this:
manager: we need to add asap.
me: is it for <other team’s software> so they can ? If it is, we did for that. <other team’s software> doesn’t need to check , they can just and <our team’s software> will handle it gracefully.
other team’s programmer: that’s what we do.
other team’s manager: so we do ?
other team’s programmer: yes
If that’s what passes for normalcy, I don’t understand the appeal.
Yeah, it should present a statement, that could be interpreted literally or not, and then ask you to select the closest response to what you initially interpreted, or something like that. I guess that could encounter a lot of error with different cultures and education though.
I was getting my flu vaccine the other day and the nurse asked me why I checked "I don't know" in response to the question "Is the patient sick?"
She seemed genuinely annoyed when I told her that the only two truthful answers to "Are you sick?" are "Yes" and "I don't know".
If the question had asked "Is the patient showing any symptoms of illness?" it would have been a different story, but I answered the question as asked.
I've had some of my family get annoyed at me for a similar thing lol. If someone asks me if I'd do something in a hypothetical scenario, I basically always answer with "probably" or "probably not". I just feel like no matter how certain I feel I would do something in some given situation that I've never experienced, I can't know 100% unless it were to actually happen, so answering as if I'm sure would be incorrect of me.
i went in for a surgery a couple of years ago. receptionist asks if I've had covid. i say i don't know. receptionist looks at me like im trying to be funny. i specify that i haven't had symptomatic covid. receptionist asks me again if I've had covid. my partner tells me to stop being difficult. receptionist rolls their eyes. as far as i was aware you can have covid without symptoms, so i really think answering 'no' is dangerously arrogant. or at least foolishly naive.
Meanwhile, I’ve never had Covid and whenever i tell this to medical receptionists they’re like “you’ve never been symptomatic” 😂 every time! You can’t win
Have you done repeated tests, alternatively taken antibody tests (for covid19 proteins not in the vaccines)? (because this is a thread about being pedantic)
Yes, I kept various taking tests weekly for years until it finally got too expensive. I still have only been sick once since 2019, got a cold in 2025. N95 mask nearly everywhere, nearly all the time.
I’m in a couple different academic studies for possible covid resistance, but I keep telling them I don’t think there’s anything biologically keeping me from getting covid, it’s just the masking + forsaking society.
It's more "fun" for me. I had something that presented quite a bit like covid early on, but it was just barely not bad enough for my province to let me get tested. Then when I got something similar again later I tested negative.
Whenever asked if I've ever had covid I tend to explain the whole situation because I have no idea if I've had it or why it's relevant to the asker.
Because they are, dammit. I remember taking a test that had like 50 questions and it seemed like I'd answer every single one of them differently if it provided more context in one way or the other.
There were two questions far away from each other probing for readiness to use violence which I thought would make an for odd result because I answered them "differently". I filled in some more missing context, what else are you supposed to do to find an answer?
Well, apparently that just turned out to make my result unreliable.
The actual purpose of those questions has two parts, one is to check if your answers make sense (in polling you reject responses with too many contradictions), and the other is to check strength of an opinion
I told my psychologist that the questions/answers were constructed so poorly that I had started to suspect that the real test was whether or not I would complain about them.
Seriously, why do these assessments always say "People tell me [blank]"? I can speak about my own experiences! I don't need someone to narrate my behavior like a sitcom!
Like I get that they're trying to understand how you behave around other people, not how you behave in your own head, but at least phrase it as "People tell me or I believe people think I am [blank]"; because that's how I'm forced to answer these questions anyways.
People can misjudge themselves for a number of reasons. For instance, it's common for people to downplay certain traits they perceive as negative or rarely give much thought.
"Are you too literal?" - "Not often, less than 4/10 times";
"How often do people around you tend to consider you too literal?" - "Like 8/10 times"
People dont tell me anything. They usually just get uncomfortable and walk away or become my lifelong friends, and nowhere inbetween. Something like a 200:1 ratio on that, though.
This should be part of the diagnostic criteria. I figured out when I was a kid - if I feel like I'm putting in all the effort for the friendship and the other person isn't trying, then it's not worth it. Chances are, I'm just annoying them and they're trying to be polite. In reality, either we click immediately or we don't click at all, and the difference is unmistakable. Finding a like-mind feels like a chemical reaction going off.
Or another way to put it, it's like how two waves meeting can either amplify each other or completely cancel each other out. If we're the same wavelength, we'll both be riding high. If we're too different, everything just kind of peters out.
Isn't that true to an extent for all mental health quizzes? The question rather is, why would you want to manipulate the test? Usually it is in the persons best interest to answer as honestly as possible
"Was 50 chosen for a scientific reason or just because it's a round number?"
"No, we usually have it figured out after one or two, the rest is to see how far we can push you before you finally refuse to answer more questions. Never had it finish at zero before, though."
"Oh. Alright. Well, let's get started."
"...and still waiting, I guess. Anyway, the first question is..."
Me, an experienced masker: You can't tell what a person is thinking from their face, they expend a lot of effort keeping their face in a socially acceptable position to hide their true feelings.
This is always what makes me a little unsure of if I have autism. Cause I have very little trouble understanding a person's feeling from their facial expression. Admittedly I am self-diagnosed, but I also know it's a spectrum so there's gotta be a few outliers who don't struggle with this, right?
Honestly, I think neurotypicals put too much emphasis on facial expression. I can read facial expressions fine most of the time, yeah, but rarely does someone accurately read my facial expression.
People either assume I'm upset (because I'm not actively attempting to emote, such as when I'm thinking about something), or assume I'm happy (because I'm masking - in which case I may look happy, but that doesn't mean I feel happy.)
Considering that "resting bitch face" has become a known cultural phenomenon, I'm tempted to argue that neurotypicals have as much trouble reading faces as they claim we do. The difference is, if they're wrong they either don't recognize it, or double-down because obvs you're lying for some reason. (You're autistic after all, they clearly know how you're feeling better than you do. /s)
Ha yeah I got that resting bitch face too. When I’m feeling just fine I look like someone just kicked my shin with dogpoop-smeared boots. Agree we put way too much emphasis on facial expressions.
I had a test with a short movie, cut scene by scene and each time they asked to explain what happend and what did were thinking. I thought I did good on it, but apparently I didn't, just too autistic to know.
Part of the reason my therapist diagnosed me was because, when running a test like this, I was constantly asking questions to get clarification for the questions of the test because I couldn't answer them correctly because of this.
Probably around 8th or 9th test question, my therapist was already certain of my diagnosis.
Same thing happened with me, and I think that’s where the actual strength of the test is. You need a professional who can observe how you interact with it to really get a proper assessment. If you just do it on your own you’re not going to get out of it an accurate assessment.
oh btw, i was reading some legal texts yesterday (as a hobby) and it's surprisingly easy to read for me. yes, it's all convoluted language; but at least it's precise and clear. no swampy vague language.
so it's actually easier to digest than many small-talk conversations that i've had.
In which country do you find clear and defined legal texts? I was inder the impression such texts were kept intentionally vague so the executioner can sway either way, deoending where the money sits. (Especially laws, but I realize law texts are just a small subset of legal texts)
You're thinking consumer sales contracts by scummy companies. There's plenty of very precise legal texts available. Business to business contracts where both sizes have good lawyers, for example
what you said is basically true in the US; but in german-speaking areas, legal texts are perfect for people with autism. just clear, defined terms; meaningful sentence structure; getting to the point. no ambiguity, no vagueness, no bullshit (mostly).
The most "fun" ones are the control questions askinging you exactly the opposite of something you've been already asked.
Except inversion also reverses subtext so your honest answer has to be different than just the opposite of the previous answer you have. But if the two answers are not a perfect mirror, you might trigger too many control questions and not get diagnosed. What should you do? AAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Am I autistic? Regardless of how literally you feel you take statements, I still want to know whether people complain to you about you being “too literal” because I want to know if it is affecting your interpersonal relationships. If I wanted to know whether you feel you take things literally, I would add that as a separate question? Please don’t project subtext on this, I actually want to know the answer to the actual question I’m actually asking you?
But that doesn't tell you anything about the test-taker, it only tells you about their social environment.
If they're autistic and hang out with other neurodivergents then nobody is going to tell them they're too literal, they might even tell them they aren't literal enough.
I'm pretty sure this is how so many members of my family have made it to adulthood without getting diagnosed earlier (I mean, aside from diagnosis becoming more common/accepted these days.)
Like, you mean to tell me there are siblings who don't send each other pictures of interesting road signs they come across? Pfft, what a weird family that must be. Next you'll be telling me that most families don't ask each other impromptu trivia questions about obscure topics that they happen to share interests in.
This is our normal. Always has been. It's the rest of the world that's weird.
Some social situations or believes about social are surely more likely with certain groups of neurodivergent people and thus questions about it should give some information about the test taker.
The "people tell me I'm X" type questions on shit like this always annoy me because like, what exactly are you trying to gauge with this question? Are you trying to determine what I'm like, or are you trying to determine what other people's perception of me is? The way it's worded would denote the latter but I'm not sure that's in actuality what they're going for. In any case, I don't typically have people regularly telling me "you're so [personality trait]" so most of the time if I answer honestly then the answer will usually be "completely disagree" but then that probably skews the test towards an inaccurate result if what they're really trying to determine is "are you [personality trait]?"
They're trying to figure out how you compare to other people. It's terribly worded, but it's something people who don't take things literally would get. It's also really weird because other mental health evaluations tend not to use that sort of potentially confusing language.
Well yeah they're trying to see if other people see those traits in you because self perception is biased. I think the question is quite literal, either people tell you you take things too literally or they don't. I think that's the joke?
People don’t tell you that. It would be rude. It would probably be someone else on the spectrum tactlessly telling you, if anyone. However, self-realization that you took many comments literally and embarassed yourself or screwed something up is why you tick that box “yes”.
Recently I had a therapist ask if I experience cognitive distortions, but in a way where a literal interpretation would be asking if I hallucinate. I'm not autistic and I knew what she meant, but I did feel the need to be clear in my answer
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Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de · 106 pts · 1d
"too literal" is inherently subjective. Too literal to whom? What if my friends group is also neurodivergent as fuck, does this invalidate me then because it's the new neurotypical?
I conclude that we need tests for what's usually thought off as "normies". If they know about their rhetorical precision deficits surely they can get therapy to solve that issue and integrate better into society.
m4xie@lemmy.ca · 34 pts · 1d
I've been told many times I'm too literal. They are wrong, I am appropriately literal. However, it is something people tell me.
SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 16h
Same! I can exaggerate and make jokes just fine, I just usually am being serious because i'm focused on the task at hand
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 23 pts · 1d
Enough that people tell you that you’re too literal.
But also, this isn’t an age or disagree question, it’s a does this happen question.
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 1d
but it literally is "agree to disagree" tho. If they didn't want it to be, they should've used those words! 😤
ugo@feddit.it · 13 pts · 1d
Seriously. I get the impression that some people don’t like to engage with me at work because I try to be precise to the necessary degree. I work with software, so the degree of precision I need to use to express the behaviour of a system is decently high. I do a conscious effort to be only as technical as the context requires, often opting for being not technical at all when engaging people whose job is not technical.
A few days ago I was in an email chain that went something like this:
If that’s what passes for normalcy, I don’t understand the appeal.
SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 16h
Psrhaps other team's programmer has learned to just smile and nod with that particular manager?
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 21h
Yeah, it should present a statement, that could be interpreted literally or not, and then ask you to select the closest response to what you initially interpreted, or something like that. I guess that could encounter a lot of error with different cultures and education though.
hakase@lemmy.zip · 93 pts · 1d
I was getting my flu vaccine the other day and the nurse asked me why I checked "I don't know" in response to the question "Is the patient sick?"
She seemed genuinely annoyed when I told her that the only two truthful answers to "Are you sick?" are "Yes" and "I don't know".
If the question had asked "Is the patient showing any symptoms of illness?" it would have been a different story, but I answered the question as asked.
cass1312@piefed.blahaj.zone · 47 pts · 1d
I've had some of my family get annoyed at me for a similar thing lol. If someone asks me if I'd do something in a hypothetical scenario, I basically always answer with "probably" or "probably not". I just feel like no matter how certain I feel I would do something in some given situation that I've never experienced, I can't know 100% unless it were to actually happen, so answering as if I'm sure would be incorrect of me.
pebbles@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 1d
Finally, some people who incorporate a bit of epistemology into their lives. Y'all are my people.
tyranny@crazypeople.online · 40 pts · 1d
i went in for a surgery a couple of years ago. receptionist asks if I've had covid. i say i don't know. receptionist looks at me like im trying to be funny. i specify that i haven't had symptomatic covid. receptionist asks me again if I've had covid. my partner tells me to stop being difficult. receptionist rolls their eyes. as far as i was aware you can have covid without symptoms, so i really think answering 'no' is dangerously arrogant. or at least foolishly naive.
Evkob@lemmy.ca · 33 pts · 1d
My trick for this is to replace "I don't know" with "not to my knowledge" or "not as far as I know".
Same sentiment, but much less pushback from others.
Orygin@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 1d
This is the way. "I don't know" could imply you haven't even thought about it, while "Not to my knowledge" implies you know but may be wrong.
BottleBoardBakon@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 1d
Saying that and adding a small smile and a quick laugh does wonders
kestrel7_7@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1d
Meanwhile, I’ve never had Covid and whenever i tell this to medical receptionists they’re like “you’ve never been symptomatic” 😂 every time! You can’t win
Natanael@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 22h
Have you done repeated tests, alternatively taken antibody tests (for covid19 proteins not in the vaccines)? (because this is a thread about being pedantic)
kestrel7_7@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 22h
Yes, I kept various taking tests weekly for years until it finally got too expensive. I still have only been sick once since 2019, got a cold in 2025. N95 mask nearly everywhere, nearly all the time.
I’m in a couple different academic studies for possible covid resistance, but I keep telling them I don’t think there’s anything biologically keeping me from getting covid, it’s just the masking + forsaking society.
jonj@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1d
It's more "fun" for me. I had something that presented quite a bit like covid early on, but it was just barely not bad enough for my province to let me get tested. Then when I got something similar again later I tested negative.
Whenever asked if I've ever had covid I tend to explain the whole situation because I have no idea if I've had it or why it's relevant to the asker.
mister_flibble@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1d
fdagpigj@lemmy.ml · 73 pts · 1d
That's why assessment is done by professionals who can interpret your answers, not online quizzes
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 15 pts · 1d
Sometimes the professionals also give you quizzes just like this.
Ask me how i know
Rei@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 1d
Standardized quizzes written by professionals, even.
AmyAye@nord.pub · 3 pts · 1d
This is probably America, professionals are expensive. Quizzes are free.
ICastFist@programming.dev · 56 pts · 1d
Unironically, when I did my tests, I did complain to my psychologist about how some questions were "too open for interpretation"
Eskarina@piefed.blahaj.zone · 20 pts · 1d
Because they are, dammit. I remember taking a test that had like 50 questions and it seemed like I'd answer every single one of them differently if it provided more context in one way or the other.
There were two questions far away from each other probing for readiness to use violence which I thought would make an for odd result because I answered them "differently". I filled in some more missing context, what else are you supposed to do to find an answer?
Well, apparently that just turned out to make my result unreliable.
Natanael@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 22h
The actual purpose of those questions has two parts, one is to check if your answers make sense (in polling you reject responses with too many contradictions), and the other is to check strength of an opinion
verdare@piefed.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 1d
I told my psychologist that the questions/answers were constructed so poorly that I had started to suspect that the real test was whether or not I would complain about them.
Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 47 pts · 1d
Seriously, why do these assessments always say "People tell me [blank]"? I can speak about my own experiences! I don't need someone to narrate my behavior like a sitcom!
Like I get that they're trying to understand how you behave around other people, not how you behave in your own head, but at least phrase it as "People tell me or I believe people think I am [blank]"; because that's how I'm forced to answer these questions anyways.
ICastFist@programming.dev · 39 pts · 1d
People can misjudge themselves for a number of reasons. For instance, it's common for people to downplay certain traits they perceive as negative or rarely give much thought.
"Are you too literal?" - "Not often, less than 4/10 times";
"How often do people around you tend to consider you too literal?" - "Like 8/10 times"
spicehoarder@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 1d
In that case just ask a question and judge it off the literalness
Patrikvo@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 1d
"If your life had a narator, would it tell you that..."
Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 1d
People dont tell me anything. They usually just get uncomfortable and walk away or become my lifelong friends, and nowhere inbetween. Something like a 200:1 ratio on that, though.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
This should be part of the diagnostic criteria. I figured out when I was a kid - if I feel like I'm putting in all the effort for the friendship and the other person isn't trying, then it's not worth it. Chances are, I'm just annoying them and they're trying to be polite. In reality, either we click immediately or we don't click at all, and the difference is unmistakable. Finding a like-mind feels like a chemical reaction going off.
Or another way to put it, it's like how two waves meeting can either amplify each other or completely cancel each other out. If we're the same wavelength, we'll both be riding high. If we're too different, everything just kind of peters out.
Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
My autistic ass says its like two Stand users from jojos, if that makes any sense. We attract each other and mesh well (or kill each other, i guess)
lugal@sopuli.xyz · 42 pts · 23h
Some people think autism means taking everything literally but that's actually kleptomania
hayvan@piefed.world · 38 pts · 1d
Autism tests are useless because I can already see which are the autistic answers and can manipulate the results either way.
KokusnussRitter@discuss.tchncs.de · 29 pts · 1d
Isn't that true to an extent for all mental health quizzes? The question rather is, why would you want to manipulate the test? Usually it is in the persons best interest to answer as honestly as possible
Patrikvo@lemmy.zip · 38 pts · 1d
It is, I once manipulated an IQ test by giving all the correct answers.
lugal@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 23h
2D chess
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 1d
I believe IQ are made in such a way thire are no correct answers.
Natanael@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 22h
You didn't tag that ragebait
KokusnussRitter@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 1d
😂
froufox@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 1d
DonPiano@feddit.org · 2 pts · 22h
Why would you?
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 16h
To score Adderall, duh
Zensate@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 1d
The thing about autism test is, once you start deconstructing the questions the psychiatrist already has what they need lol
GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca · 31 pts · 1d
"Here's a 50-question survey."
"Was 50 chosen for a scientific reason or just because it's a round number?"
"No, we usually have it figured out after one or two, the rest is to see how far we can push you before you finally refuse to answer more questions. Never had it finish at zero before, though."
"Oh. Alright. Well, let's get started."
"...and still waiting, I guess. Anyway, the first question is..."
SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 16h
I'd vibe with that person
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 1d
Sometimes they tell you, "you were so close"
Zensate@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
You were this close to greatness
edinbruh@feddit.it · 33 pts · 1d
All online tests are basically
Test: from 1 to 5, how much X do you feel?
You: 4/5
Test results: You are 75% X
You: so true
You can always tell immediately which question confirms your preconceptions, so you can never answer genuinely. It's all confirmation bias.
This is all amplified by the fact that if you are taking the test, you already think that you are the thing in the test (in this case, autistic).
P.S. this includes mbti tests. Don't let their sciency looks deceive you. It's all confirmation bias, all fake.
theneverfox@pawb.social · 28 pts · 1d
Myers Briggs is complete pseudoscience, if it helps. Literally nonsense made up whole cloth by some mother and daughter
Patrikvo@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 1d
You mean astrology for MBAs?
Hoimo@ani.social · 31 pts · 1d
Autism test: Look at this picture of a face, what is this person thinking?
Me, an experienced masker: You can't tell what a person is thinking from their face, they expend a lot of effort keeping their face in a socially acceptable position to hide their true feelings.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
As opposed to the cptsd answer: "what did I do to cause you to show me a bunch of pictures of people who are mad at me"
ThunderComplex@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 1d
This is always what makes me a little unsure of if I have autism. Cause I have very little trouble understanding a person's feeling from their facial expression. Admittedly I am self-diagnosed, but I also know it's a spectrum so there's gotta be a few outliers who don't struggle with this, right?
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1d
Honestly, I think neurotypicals put too much emphasis on facial expression. I can read facial expressions fine most of the time, yeah, but rarely does someone accurately read my facial expression.
People either assume I'm upset (because I'm not actively attempting to emote, such as when I'm thinking about something), or assume I'm happy (because I'm masking - in which case I may look happy, but that doesn't mean I feel happy.)
Considering that "resting bitch face" has become a known cultural phenomenon, I'm tempted to argue that neurotypicals have as much trouble reading faces as they claim we do. The difference is, if they're wrong they either don't recognize it, or double-down because obvs you're lying for some reason. (You're autistic after all, they clearly know how you're feeling better than you do. /s)
Natanael@infosec.pub · 4 pts · 22h
ThunderComplex@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 1d
Ha yeah I got that resting bitch face too. When I’m feeling just fine I look like someone just kicked my shin with dogpoop-smeared boots. Agree we put way too much emphasis on facial expressions.
Patrikvo@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 1d
I had a test with a short movie, cut scene by scene and each time they asked to explain what happend and what did were thinking. I thought I did good on it, but apparently I didn't, just too autistic to know.
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social · 31 pts · 1d
Part of the reason my therapist diagnosed me was because, when running a test like this, I was constantly asking questions to get clarification for the questions of the test because I couldn't answer them correctly because of this.
Probably around 8th or 9th test question, my therapist was already certain of my diagnosis.
Fallynn@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 1d
Same thing happened with me, and I think that’s where the actual strength of the test is. You need a professional who can observe how you interact with it to really get a proper assessment. If you just do it on your own you’re not going to get out of it an accurate assessment.
Natanael@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 22h
SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 16h
It kinda sounds like you're just good at masking tbh
Natanael@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 11h
gandalf_der_12te@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 22 pts · 1d
oh btw, i was reading some legal texts yesterday (as a hobby) and it's surprisingly easy to read for me. yes, it's all convoluted language; but at least it's precise and clear. no swampy vague language.
so it's actually easier to digest than many small-talk conversations that i've had.
fraksken@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 1d
In which country do you find clear and defined legal texts? I was inder the impression such texts were kept intentionally vague so the executioner can sway either way, deoending where the money sits. (Especially laws, but I realize law texts are just a small subset of legal texts)
peeteer@feddit.org · 3 pts · 1d
The German laws that I've had the pleasure of reading were pretty clear. Examples are eKFV and LuftVO (no translations available).
Natanael@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 22h
You're thinking consumer sales contracts by scummy companies. There's plenty of very precise legal texts available. Business to business contracts where both sizes have good lawyers, for example
gandalf_der_12te@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 19h
what you said is basically true in the US; but in german-speaking areas, legal texts are perfect for people with autism. just clear, defined terms; meaningful sentence structure; getting to the point. no ambiguity, no vagueness, no bullshit (mostly).
fraksken@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 5h
From Belgium, but OK. Glad to hear Germany got their things together 😊
Rei@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 17 pts · 1d
The most "fun" ones are the control questions askinging you exactly the opposite of something you've been already asked.
Except inversion also reverses subtext so your honest answer has to be different than just the opposite of the previous answer you have. But if the two answers are not a perfect mirror, you might trigger too many control questions and not get diagnosed. What should you do? AAAAAAAAAAAAAH
CombatWombat@feddit.online · 14 pts · 1d
Am I autistic? Regardless of how literally you feel you take statements, I still want to know whether people complain to you about you being “too literal” because I want to know if it is affecting your interpersonal relationships. If I wanted to know whether you feel you take things literally, I would add that as a separate question? Please don’t project subtext on this, I actually want to know the answer to the actual question I’m actually asking you?
terranoid@lemmy.cafe · 16 pts · 1d
This is you on the autism scale:
rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 1d
Fuck yea, trains are cool as hell
AzuranAurora@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 1d
Denver & Rio Grande moment
Zensate@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1d
But that doesn't tell you anything about the test-taker, it only tells you about their social environment.
If they're autistic and hang out with other neurodivergents then nobody is going to tell them they're too literal, they might even tell them they aren't literal enough.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
I'm pretty sure this is how so many members of my family have made it to adulthood without getting diagnosed earlier (I mean, aside from diagnosis becoming more common/accepted these days.)
Like, you mean to tell me there are siblings who don't send each other pictures of interesting road signs they come across? Pfft, what a weird family that must be. Next you'll be telling me that most families don't ask each other impromptu trivia questions about obscure topics that they happen to share interests in.
This is our normal. Always has been. It's the rest of the world that's weird.
SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 16h
This is what my family is like!
It's really such a shame they're extremely religious and homophobic af, otherwise we'd get along so well 😥
As it is I barely speak to them...
Trumble@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 1d
Some social situations or believes about social are surely more likely with certain groups of neurodivergent people and thus questions about it should give some information about the test taker.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 1d
If you assault the tester then it confirms your diagnosis.
molehill_siesta@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 1d
I don't like violence, may I salt the tester instead?
GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca · 4 pts · 1d
That seems way easier than answering 50 stupid questions. Verbally. To a person I don't even know.
Nyadia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 1d
The "people tell me I'm X" type questions on shit like this always annoy me because like, what exactly are you trying to gauge with this question? Are you trying to determine what I'm like, or are you trying to determine what other people's perception of me is? The way it's worded would denote the latter but I'm not sure that's in actuality what they're going for. In any case, I don't typically have people regularly telling me "you're so [personality trait]" so most of the time if I answer honestly then the answer will usually be "completely disagree" but then that probably skews the test towards an inaccurate result if what they're really trying to determine is "are you [personality trait]?"
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
They're trying to figure out how you compare to other people. It's terribly worded, but it's something people who don't take things literally would get. It's also really weird because other mental health evaluations tend not to use that sort of potentially confusing language.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 18h
They should get some autists to write alternative versions of the questions.
V1 rewrite: "You often notice or have been told that you take things too literally."
Nah, still too vague. How literal is too literal?
V2: "You often notice or have been told that you take things more literally than what was probably intended."
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 6h
"You tend to take things literally'
Donkter@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
Also, people don't have conversations where they wheel around to the autistic person and say "you're way too literal.
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 5h
Well yeah they're trying to see if other people see those traits in you because self perception is biased. I think the question is quite literal, either people tell you you take things too literally or they don't. I think that's the joke?
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
People don’t tell you that. It would be rude. It would probably be someone else on the spectrum tactlessly telling you, if anyone. However, self-realization that you took many comments literally and embarassed yourself or screwed something up is why you tick that box “yes”.
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 5h
Lol idk people tell me that all the time
Felis_Catus_Domesticus@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 23h
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
Recently I had a therapist ask if I experience cognitive distortions, but in a way where a literal interpretation would be asking if I hallucinate. I'm not autistic and I knew what she meant, but I did feel the need to be clear in my answer
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 22h
Add ADD to the mix, and you go back and change this answer at least 7 times.
Bonsoir@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 1d
I would be tented to answer "yes" because that's my type of humor, but some people don't understand that and then complain about it :(
myyass@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 18h
Awe, This is Serious Mum.
Squirrelsdrivemenuts@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
Great comedy about this subject: https://youtu.be/4JnlN6exqhI
HalfSalesman@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 22h
I hate being autistic.
DanVctr@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 22h
Why? Sure we have a difficult time being social sometimes, but it'd argue it gives you a superpower in reasoning/being in touch with yourself.
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 18h
Sometimes it's easier to want yourself to change to accommodate the NT world than to want the world to change to accommodate you