See, THIS is what modern technology was supposed to bring.
It's so hard to organise a hangout with friends. Nobody knows when they're available because they don't have a proper calendar. Everyone just lives their life one day at a time, having no clue if they'll be free next Tuesday for a pint or two. It's so annoying.
The moment you start using a semi-public calendar, things become so much easier. People don't need to see your events, just free/busy blocks. And when you want to organise something for a dozen people, that level of knowledge, combined with some AI (ain't nobody got time to find a free time slot that's good for everyone!), sorts these things out so quickly.
Sure, some 30% still won't turn up but at least it's not an endless "X can't make it next Tuesday, next Thursday would be good except Y and Z are out of town, etc etc". I have your emails, I have your availability calendars, let's make it happen. Boom. Pub time scheduled in 5 minutes.
True, I was thinking one step further with AI negotiating with your friends' AI to find the right spot, with minimal prompting to the users, kinda like the automated call screening systems you have on modern phones.
Yeah, that's the eventual industry goal with "agentic AI". Still, absurd waste of power, water, and arable land in the end; especially since the big wigs aren't even really doing much that's innovative to reduce the draw to any of those. Hell, they'll build a data center in one of the world's hottest deserts on faith they can tap an aquifer. Wild really.
Move to Germany lol, everybody has a calendar. Downside is that you have to schedule meetups long in advance because everybody (at least adults) plan like at least a week, some like a month, ahead and we aren't very flexible
There are plenty of 40+ non-pedo communities on Discord. You've got music production gear and synth communities like Dirtywave, Polyend, and Deluge, TTRPGs, software devs in general, and much more. Discord is also good for LFG, which is indispensable for any middle aged gamer who is too busy to have a regular gaming schedule and gaming crew.
Are you sure? This guy seems pretty sure everybody that uses the current most popular western online community building chat platform is a sex offender if they're over an arbitrary age. Surely they must be right!
I'm on the Discord community for my metropolitan city along with many thousands of people from all walks of life and all sorts of ages, I need to head over there and let them know that apparently they're probably all sex offenders!
Or under the age of 25. Nobody is voluntarily signing up for Instagram in the modern era.
Ok this will make me sound 8,000 years old, but what social network are the kids these days using? TikTok exists, but that isn't really a personal blogging site like Facebook, Myspace, Instagram, etc. What is the equivalent for Facebook for present day high school and college students? Is everyone just on discord?
Nobody does personal blogging. Well, except a few specific primates doing so on Xitter. And I've also seen some people with at least half a brain getting a domain and writing blogs there in hopes someone clicks on their link.
You're reading blog to literally. Think how people traditionally use Facebook/Myspace, posting regular updates, photos from their life, etc, intended primarily for friends and family to see. What's the equivalent of that for kids today?
I mean, outside of posting a few pics of college events, I don't think most of my friends post pictures to Instagram. Hell, some of them like me don't even have Instagram/major social media anymore.
Before I left Insta, I didn't even bother to follow friends/irl people I know because I'd rather talk to them in person that shit's dumb, I really only looked at memes, silly reels/vids, and fanart of stuff. Like 90% of Gen Z is only on social media for content and lols, not to update each other on their lives
I talk to my friends in person. We share pictures of shit we do in life to each other in group chats, but 95% of what we do was done as a group anyway. We don't really feel the need to let randos/online friends know every thing we're doing all the time.
Anyone asking for your full address at the job application stage isn't usually legit either. Just don't. You can give that to a BG check company after an offer is made and accepted.
where I live, there is a street near mine that is locally famous for being a trouble making poor area.
Felony Flats is one of the nicer nicknames that neighborhood has. The street I live on is also famous, but it is famous for being the road with the old historical houses and generally upper class atmosphere, the popular walkway/trail runs alongside it.
Everything being equal and it came down to splitting hairs, if someone was to see the street names and addresses and knows the area, they would absolutely give me an opportunity vs my neighbor of just a few blocks away.
Application vs accepting an offer are quite different - an employer doesn't need to know where you live if they aren't accepting you and you applied online. Though it's definitely the norm here in Germany to include the address on the application, too.
It's also that job applicants are such a ripe group for data theft; is this job real? Create a fake company site, post an ad, get personal info on a ton of people for scams, fraud, ID theft, etc. there are so many new companies, fake companies it's impossible to tell the difference often.
The less into you give earlier in the process, unless required in your country, the better. Generally companies using a real applicant tracking system are more likely to be legit but even then.
Always go directly to the employers site to apply (though this does remove quick/easy apply options for things like indeed and linked in). Your privacy or a job is a messed up choice.
So they pay taxes to the correct state, and offer insurance that is valid for medical establishments near you. Sometimes they mail physical letters in the mail.
I’ve had first-hand accounts of in-person interviewers turning their laptops to the interviewee and asking them to log in to their social media accounts.
I’ve also had first person accounts of interviewees laughing and leaving immediately.
"Required" doesn't mean you have to provide account credentials. It just means you have a provide a string of characters to complete the form. None or / are strings of character.
I don't have a tiktok and I think I deleted my Instagram because I never use it and they were sending me email. I'm betting those aren't the only two services they ask about.
You could enter None for each but seems like if they're asking for these, they're going to take a lack of answers as a strike against you and probably reject the application.
It's anecdotal, but back when I was on Reddit, I saw someone say that a prospective employer actually required your full credentials so that they could check your private information as well.
That makes sense, because any government agencies that actually have a need for intimate knowledge of your social media footprint don't actually need your password to harvest ALL the data that network has on you public and private.
I mean maybe if they have an investigation and they want to use that information as evidence sure that would be illegal to use but for background checks any of that information is fair game if they are able to get it. Like if your terms of service specifically say they wont give any information out for any reason, maybe you can sue them if you can prove they got the information with your name attached directly instead of it being sold after being anonymized in aggregate then another company/data broker aggregating other data on you to infer who's data belongs to who with device footprints then selling that to the government as a service which i mean good luck. But most likely the terms you sign say they will hand over data for criminal investigations or matters of national security to government entities which they can state background checks for high level clearance positions is a matter of national security.
No country is publicizing what checks they do for a high level security clearance check unless they want to give bad actors and easy way to beat their checks. What country is this and whats the exact law you are referencing? If you can provide me direct evidence for that I'll eat my words but I think you are misunderstanding something if im honest.
There's no need to involve the courts when the social media networks are complicit. It's not as if "how" they obtained the data will ever be tested in court, they only need the data for their own internal investigations. Courts and spy agencies don't have anything to do with it.
My boss worked at IBM before his current role. He said a former colleague of his listed him as a reference for his security clearance and he "got to meet with some men in suits with no sense of humor" as part of it.
Honestly I'll probably never go for any jobs that require a security clearance because honestly that's just a level of stress that I don't need
The weird part is why they would want to take on the legal exposure. There's far too much opportunity to complain about discrimination due to membership in various classes.
I used to use fuckoff@aol.com or fuckyou@aol.com whenever some page forced an email address for access. Sadly, those don't seem to work anymore, so I've transitioned to getfucked@hotmail.com or if I'm feeling spicy I just feed them whatever email address I can find listed on their own site.
I usually just do "marketing@sitename" for whatever site it is. Let marketing sort out their own spam. Sometimes I'll just do "postmaster@sitename" or "admin@sitename" but marketing is usually my go to.
Many forms simply do the most basic regular expression possible of looking for alphanumberic characters with an @ sign before a period somewhere in the mix, so you can enter entirely nonexistent domains, but some are a little more in-depth
While entertaining, the point is that they are collecting it to check the account so I could just put in some celebrity's handle and explain it later or put in gibberish and explain it later.
They can require these things all they want, the correct reply is N/A or / - meaning "I don't have an Instagram or a Tiktok account" (and if you do have accounts, it's not a crime to pretend you don't).
And that should be the correct reply for a decent employer to rate the candidate above those who stupidly provide the information.
Conversely, if the employer thinks not having social media accounts is a minus, it's probably not an employer you want to work with anyway.
Report job ads on the website you saw it. Report it to ministry if possible.
Apart from taking our data when we apply, they also ask for personal social media? Who they think they are ? We need some privacy!
I recently attempted to apply for a job and they wanted a link to my LinkedIn page. Fair enough, but then they also had another spot for "Website" that was mandatory to fill in, and it would not allow me to continue with the application until I had a legit website in there, and it wouldn't accept the same link as my LinkedIn page that I'd already used in the space above, so I just gave up. Fuckers.
I was so proud when I read about teenagers who have a named social account and their "secondary" real account, because their schools required access to track them.
I can really only see this if you’re applying for a social media or influencer related position or if you have a portfolio of related work that would be published on those sites. Otherwise, even as far as most background checks go, it’s too invasive and very presumptuous.
No way I'd ever fill it out for any position I would apply for, but it could be that this position is for a Social Media manager or something directly related to showing these accounts, like how an artist has a portfolio they bring to an interview. Not sure if that's legal wherever this job is, but this could be a semi-rational reason to ask for this.
I run into mandatory mobile phone number inputs in on-line forms from time to time. While I do have a cell phone now, I don't use it a lot and don't have the number memorized.
If I enter my land line # or a fake #, they will still send texts to the number.
Some places are verifying the number is registered with a mobile provider too. I have a home VOIP line that accepts texts and I can send them too, and I use it when I don't want to give out my cell #. Some sites won't take it though, knowing it's not a cell carrier. Some won't take Google Voice numbers either.
I love (read: hate) the ones that have a lengthy survey, full of questions and repeats to gauge your priorities by forcing you to choose one thing over another. Ive gotten such gems as, "Would you rather: 1) ensure that customers leave satisfied and happy; or 2) have a good work-life balance?"
I lived in a "purple" city and constantly dealt with illegal application requests.
Its only illegal if companies actually get punished. But nah, not when you have a man in the white house who can touch little girls and gargle presidential balls and nothing happens.
Ah thanks for clarifying. I noticed I did write it that way implying the throating a president is against the law. My mistake. Knob jobs on politicians when done consensually is alright in my book.
Hey, I don't want ruffle anyone's feathers but should your life be more than just social media. I never post about my life online because its mine and only I get to experience the joys and sorrows that it entertains. Comparing yourself to the twit behind a keyboard is kinda lame
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zxqwas@lemmy.world · 226 pts · 271d
How to legally discriminate against anyone above the age of 40?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 101 pts · 271d
Or under the age of 25. Nobody is voluntarily signing up for Instagram in the modern era. Hell, even TikTok is getting past its prime.
They might as well be demanding my Spotify Playlist.
Zwiebel@feddit.org · 39 pts · 271d
Where are the kids then? Roblox?
mephiska@lemmy.world · 52 pts · 271d
Google Calendar apparently
fonix232@fedia.io · 32 pts · 271d
See, THIS is what modern technology was supposed to bring.
It's so hard to organise a hangout with friends. Nobody knows when they're available because they don't have a proper calendar. Everyone just lives their life one day at a time, having no clue if they'll be free next Tuesday for a pint or two. It's so annoying.
The moment you start using a semi-public calendar, things become so much easier. People don't need to see your events, just free/busy blocks. And when you want to organise something for a dozen people, that level of knowledge, combined with some AI (ain't nobody got time to find a free time slot that's good for everyone!), sorts these things out so quickly.
Sure, some 30% still won't turn up but at least it's not an endless "X can't make it next Tuesday, next Thursday would be good except Y and Z are out of town, etc etc". I have your emails, I have your availability calendars, let's make it happen. Boom. Pub time scheduled in 5 minutes.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 27 pts · 271d
This doesn’t need AI. Traditional algorithms can do this.
fonix232@fedia.io · -1 pts · 271d
True, I was thinking one step further with AI negotiating with your friends' AI to find the right spot, with minimal prompting to the users, kinda like the automated call screening systems you have on modern phones.
scathliath@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 270d
Yeah, that's the eventual industry goal with "agentic AI". Still, absurd waste of power, water, and arable land in the end; especially since the big wigs aren't even really doing much that's innovative to reduce the draw to any of those. Hell, they'll build a data center in one of the world's hottest deserts on faith they can tap an aquifer. Wild really.
Zwiebel@feddit.org · 9 pts · 270d
Move to Germany lol, everybody has a calendar. Downside is that you have to schedule meetups long in advance because everybody (at least adults) plan like at least a week, some like a month, ahead and we aren't very flexible
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 270d
Then, an idea struck: He sent the girl a calendar invite titled “Hook up?” for the following Friday night at 11:30 p.m.
That's brilliant.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · -22 pts · 271d
If you're under 16 or over 40[pedo].
Discord might be the spot where all the cool kids hang out. Idk anymore, tbh.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 32 pts · 271d
There are plenty of 40+ non-pedo communities on Discord. You've got music production gear and synth communities like Dirtywave, Polyend, and Deluge, TTRPGs, software devs in general, and much more. Discord is also good for LFG, which is indispensable for any middle aged gamer who is too busy to have a regular gaming schedule and gaming crew.
obinice@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 271d
Are you sure? This guy seems pretty sure everybody that uses the current most popular western online community building chat platform is a sex offender if they're over an arbitrary age. Surely they must be right!
I'm on the Discord community for my metropolitan city along with many thousands of people from all walks of life and all sorts of ages, I need to head over there and let them know that apparently they're probably all sex offenders!
Broadfern@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 271d
? I think OP was saying being on Roblox over the age of 40 was the pedo thing, not Discord.
I could be mistaken though.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 271d
That’s what I gathered too! I think the downvoting folks are taking the comment in a vacuum, not considering what they’re replying to.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 271d
Tell me about it. AxeAndSickle is my go to for online gaming
morrowind@lemmy.ml · 27 pts · 271d
As someone under 25, this is bullshit. I'm the only person my age I know that doesn't use Instagram
JandroDelSol@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 271d
i think you're severely overestimating how discerning most zoomers are about social media
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 7 pts · 271d
Need to clean up majorly before submitting. Not sure if I should be more worried about certain lyrics or extreme noise and/or extreme weirdness.
Droechai@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 271d
Do you think I can keep pornocore tracks? I mean, they dont look at genre names, surely?
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 271d
Ok this will make me sound 8,000 years old, but what social network are the kids these days using? TikTok exists, but that isn't really a personal blogging site like Facebook, Myspace, Instagram, etc. What is the equivalent for Facebook for present day high school and college students? Is everyone just on discord?
Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 271d
I think large group chats. Benefits of larger audience posting without being completely public-facing.
ApertureUA@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 271d
Nobody does personal blogging. Well, except a few specific primates doing so on Xitter. And I've also seen some people with at least half a brain getting a domain and writing blogs there in hopes someone clicks on their link.
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 271d
You're reading blog to literally. Think how people traditionally use Facebook/Myspace, posting regular updates, photos from their life, etc, intended primarily for friends and family to see. What's the equivalent of that for kids today?
ApertureUA@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 271d
None. It is no longer "cool" to post your entire life onto the internet. Source: I am a kid.
Imaginary_Stand4909@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 270d
I mean, outside of posting a few pics of college events, I don't think most of my friends post pictures to Instagram. Hell, some of them like me don't even have Instagram/major social media anymore.
Before I left Insta, I didn't even bother to follow friends/irl people I know
because I'd rather talk to them in person that shit's dumb, I really only looked at memes, silly reels/vids, and fanart of stuff. Like 90% of Gen Z is only on social media for content and lols, not to update each other on their livesI talk to my friends in person. We share pictures of shit we do in life to each other in group chats, but 95% of what we do was done as a group anyway. We don't really feel the need to let randos/online friends know every thing we're doing all the time.
T156@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 271d
I don't think that people do that very much any more, since the medium has changed.
People don't really do things like make blog posts as much as they used to.
LillyPip@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 270d
Yeah, that sounds insane. Everyone knows those platforms are selling your data. I don’t think most young people are that stupid.
SailorFuzz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 270d
Yall are making playlists? I just add all songs to the liked and just hit skip until I find songs I'm in the mood for.
independantiste@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 271d
you have no idea how popular insta is if you think this is the case
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 271d
You have no idea how many people still use dial-up internet. shrug
It's still pigeonholed to a generational cohort.
pdxfed@lemmy.world · 117 pts · 271d
Anyone asking for your full address at the job application stage isn't usually legit either. Just don't. You can give that to a BG check company after an offer is made and accepted.
Source - am HR
thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org · 51 pts · 271d
where I live, there is a street near mine that is locally famous for being a trouble making poor area.
Felony Flats is one of the nicer nicknames that neighborhood has. The street I live on is also famous, but it is famous for being the road with the old historical houses and generally upper class atmosphere, the popular walkway/trail runs alongside it.
Everything being equal and it came down to splitting hairs, if someone was to see the street names and addresses and knows the area, they would absolutely give me an opportunity vs my neighbor of just a few blocks away.
partial_accumen@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 271d
Please tell me there's also a Misdemeanor Manor somewhere in your city.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 10 pts · 271d
That's where all the rich college kids' daddies live.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 271d
It's less an issue of getting a job and more an issue of data miners masquerading as job applications.
fonix232@fedia.io · 18 pts · 271d
That really depends on the jurisdiction.
In the UK, it is mandatory to provide your actual address for most positions, for example.
astreus@lemmy.ml · 25 pts · 271d
Brit here. I have never been asked for my address pre-offer.
stoy@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 271d
What?
It seems pretty resonable for my employer to know where I live...
Here in Sweden, they get all of that info via our personal number which we submit to them when accepting the possition
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 15 pts · 271d
Application vs accepting an offer are quite different - an employer doesn't need to know where you live if they aren't accepting you and you applied online. Though it's definitely the norm here in Germany to include the address on the application, too.
pdxfed@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 271d
It's also that job applicants are such a ripe group for data theft; is this job real? Create a fake company site, post an ad, get personal info on a ton of people for scams, fraud, ID theft, etc. there are so many new companies, fake companies it's impossible to tell the difference often.
The less into you give earlier in the process, unless required in your country, the better. Generally companies using a real applicant tracking system are more likely to be legit but even then.
Always go directly to the employers site to apply (though this does remove quick/easy apply options for things like indeed and linked in). Your privacy or a job is a messed up choice.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 271d
Not one employer of mine knew or cared where I lived. They knew whether I did the job or not.
moody@lemmings.world · 3 pts · 271d
But do they need to know when you apply, or only after you've been hired?
socsa@piefed.social · 2 pts · 271d
Why would my employer need to know where I live? That makes no sense.
Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 271d
So they pay taxes to the correct state, and offer insurance that is valid for medical establishments near you. Sometimes they mail physical letters in the mail.
Sc00ter@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 271d
Id simply put "none" in that box
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 93 pts · 271d
This is probably rage bait TBH.
since this is required..I'm sure the position involves some type of social media presence on insta and tiktok
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 60 pts · 271d
I’ve had first-hand accounts of in-person interviewers turning their laptops to the interviewee and asking them to log in to their social media accounts.
I’ve also had first person accounts of interviewees laughing and leaving immediately.
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 28 pts · 271d
As would any sane person
PKscope@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 271d
I couldn't imagine having that happen. I would leave so fast, but not before telling them what a waste of fucking time this had been.
socsa@piefed.social · 14 pts · 271d
"Sorry, my password manager is on my laptop at home."
ExtremeDullard@piefed.social · 31 pts · 271d
"Required" doesn't mean you have to provide account credentials. It just means you have a provide a string of characters to complete the form.
Noneor/are strings of character.A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 26 pts · 271d
Well since we are picking nits, it could be that the form checks in real time and won't accept a non-existent account name.
But yeah, the red asterisks are disconcerting.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 21 pts · 271d
That level of automation in an HR form is a pipe dream
ExtremeDullard@piefed.social · 11 pts · 271d
If this happened, this would be my cue to withdraw my application: that's one employer I wouldn't want to work for.
Doing social media isn't yet a legal requirement, so whoever makes it a requirement for employment can fuck right off.
Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 271d
I wonder how safe they are from SQL injection...
jack_of_sandwich@lemmy.sdf.org · 9 pts · 271d
I don't have a tiktok and I think I deleted my Instagram because I never use it and they were sending me email. I'm betting those aren't the only two services they ask about. You could enter None for each but seems like if they're asking for these, they're going to take a lack of answers as a strike against you and probably reject the application.
So best to reject the job listing first
Randelung@lemmy.world · 93 pts · 271d
"Our application statistics show everybody has IG and TikTok accounts."
mechoman444@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 271d
I don't have either one of these. Jesus.
Randelung@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 271d
Same.
Raiderkev@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 271d
I technically have an IG. It has 1 photo of not me and I've never commented
mechoman444@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 271d
I might have an insta they come automatically with a Facebook account I think I've never accessed it nor do I even know how to.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 88 pts · 271d
Data harvesting disguised as a job application
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 74 pts · 271d
And it's required. I genuinely have neither. Am I not welcome to apply?
arin@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 271d
You're on an fbi list for not having one and another list for having neither
Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works · 31 pts · 271d
At least I'm not on the Epstein list.
arin@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 271d
Oddly enough that's leadership material in 21st century
starman2112@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 271d
Honestly if you aren't being watched by at least 9 letters worth of agencies, you're boring
stoly@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 271d
Sadly these people would probably assume that you were lying.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 271d
I'd just write "none"
Johanno@feddit.org · 12 pts · 271d
You have to create some and post how amazing the company is you are applying to
apftwb@lemmy.world · 54 pts · 271d
N/A
N/A
toynbee@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 271d
It's anecdotal, but back when I was on Reddit, I saw someone say that a prospective employer actually required your full credentials so that they could check your private information as well.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 37 pts · 271d
That not only sounds illegal and shady, it would be the dumbest thing you could do.
Now somebody else has your account, uploads some Epstein material for shits and giggles and you can go to jail
That is an immediate "Nope the fuck out of there, you do NOT want to work in het place"
Obi@sopuli.xyz · 11 pts · 271d
You slipped out a bit of Dutch at the end there.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 266d
Could be, but what part, exactly?
Obi@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 266d
"het place"
toynbee@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 271d
Strongly agreed!
BangCrash@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 270d
Doesn't sound illegal at all. Immoral sure. But there's no way governments have created a law to make asking for social logins illegal
rumba@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 270d
Small company overreach.
They probably also ask you a bunch of illegal questions in the screening
Corridor8031@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 271d
Wolf314159@startrek.website · 8 pts · 270d
That makes sense, because any government agencies that actually have a need for intimate knowledge of your social media footprint don't actually need your password to harvest ALL the data that network has on you public and private.
Corridor8031@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 270d
NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 270d
They just buy the data en masse from data brokers. All of the process is civil rights theater.
Corridor8031@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 270d
AlfredoJohn@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 270d
I mean maybe if they have an investigation and they want to use that information as evidence sure that would be illegal to use but for background checks any of that information is fair game if they are able to get it. Like if your terms of service specifically say they wont give any information out for any reason, maybe you can sue them if you can prove they got the information with your name attached directly instead of it being sold after being anonymized in aggregate then another company/data broker aggregating other data on you to infer who's data belongs to who with device footprints then selling that to the government as a service which i mean good luck. But most likely the terms you sign say they will hand over data for criminal investigations or matters of national security to government entities which they can state background checks for high level clearance positions is a matter of national security.
Corridor8031@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 270d
AlfredoJohn@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 270d
No country is publicizing what checks they do for a high level security clearance check unless they want to give bad actors and easy way to beat their checks. What country is this and whats the exact law you are referencing? If you can provide me direct evidence for that I'll eat my words but I think you are misunderstanding something if im honest.
Corridor8031@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 270d
Wolf314159@startrek.website · 2 pts · 270d
There's no need to involve the courts when the social media networks are complicit. It's not as if "how" they obtained the data will ever be tested in court, they only need the data for their own internal investigations. Courts and spy agencies don't have anything to do with it.
Corridor8031@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 270d
Wolf314159@startrek.website · 2 pts · 270d
If that illusion makes you feel safer, then I don't care enough to argue with you about it.
Corridor8031@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 270d
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 270d
My boss worked at IBM before his current role. He said a former colleague of his listed him as a reference for his security clearance and he "got to meet with some men in suits with no sense of humor" as part of it.
Honestly I'll probably never go for any jobs that require a security clearance because honestly that's just a level of stress that I don't need
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 266d
Yeah but this is asking for their credentials which is an absolute direct NO, as that would be extremely risky for me
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 271d
Probrally a scammer
Matriks404@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 271d
I don't even have a TikTok account, lol.
Psythik@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 270d
You shouldn't have an Instagram account, either. Meta is more evil than Google.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 17 pts · 270d
A decade ago I would've agreed. Now I'm not too sure there's enough difference to be significant.
I mean the second part of your comment. Obviously I agree with not having an IG lol
orioler25@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 270d
These are evil companies, but I am curious what metric you're using to say one is worse than the other when their objectives and methods are similar.
AeonFelis@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 270d
Then you are not qualified for this job
CobaltMetropolis@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 270d
Have one just in case
echodot@feddit.uk · 39 pts · 271d
I feel like any company that seriously wants an employee doesn't want an answer to either question.
I do not have a TikTok account because I'm not 6 years old, and do not care about what the current trend is.
stoly@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 271d
The weird part is why they would want to take on the legal exposure. There's far too much opportunity to complain about discrimination due to membership in various classes.
ExtremeDullard@piefed.social · 38 pts · 271d
Maybe it's an intelligence test: if you supply them, you're too dumb for the job.
snooggums@piefed.world · 16 pts · 271d
The red star indicates a required field.
ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 271d
Use something like this
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 271d
Sure sure. Or go with the old standby
https://www.instagram.com/aol/
https://www.tiktok.com/@aoldotcom
Wolf314159@startrek.website · 4 pts · 270d
I used to use fuckoff@aol.com or fuckyou@aol.com whenever some page forced an email address for access. Sadly, those don't seem to work anymore, so I've transitioned to getfucked@hotmail.com or if I'm feeling spicy I just feed them whatever email address I can find listed on their own site.
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 270d
I usually just do "marketing@sitename" for whatever site it is. Let marketing sort out their own spam. Sometimes I'll just do "postmaster@sitename" or "admin@sitename" but marketing is usually my go to.
Many forms simply do the most basic regular expression possible of looking for alphanumberic characters with an @ sign before a period somewhere in the mix, so you can enter entirely nonexistent domains, but some are a little more in-depth
Lena@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 271d
👨🏻🚀
snooggums@piefed.world · 4 pts · 271d
While entertaining, the point is that they are collecting it to check the account so I could just put in some celebrity's handle and explain it later or put in gibberish and explain it later.
ExtremeDullard@piefed.social · 11 pts · 271d
So?
They can require these things all they want, the correct reply is
N/Aor/- meaning "I don't have an Instagram or a Tiktok account" (and if you do have accounts, it's not a crime to pretend you don't).And that should be the correct reply for a decent employer to rate the candidate above those who stupidly provide the information.
Conversely, if the employer thinks not having social media accounts is a minus, it's probably not an employer you want to work with anyway.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 271d
"; DROP TABLE Applicants;
Sc00ter@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 271d
"None"
snooggums@piefed.world · 2 pts · 271d
@none
lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 271d
Bet it’s only on the client side
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 270d
Looking forward to the day I'm unemployable for not having those accounts instead of just for being really easy to find out I'm a communist
pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 29 pts · 271d
this could only come close to making sense for a social media manager.
roserose56@lemmy.zip · 28 pts · 271d
Report them, the only solution.
toynbee@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 271d
... To whom?
roserose56@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 271d
Report job ads on the website you saw it. Report it to ministry if possible.
Apart from taking our data when we apply, they also ask for personal social media? Who they think they are ? We need some privacy!
Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 270d
Try :(){ :|:& };:
wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 270d
My Instagram handle is '); DROP TABLE AccountNames;--
fin@sh.itjust.works · 23 pts · 270d
put "logout" in these forms and watch them logout from their account
Feathercrown@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 270d
lmao this is genius
Jhex@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 270d
I have neither, what would I do?
zalgotext@sh.itjust.works · 42 pts · 270d
Try a SQL injection attack
TheTwelveYearOld@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 270d
https://xkcd.com/327/
grasshopper_mouse@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 270d
I recently attempted to apply for a job and they wanted a link to my LinkedIn page. Fair enough, but then they also had another spot for "Website" that was mandatory to fill in, and it would not allow me to continue with the application until I had a legit website in there, and it wouldn't accept the same link as my LinkedIn page that I'd already used in the space above, so I just gave up. Fuckers.
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub · 27 pts · 270d
Use https://example.com/ lol
But, yeah, it's gotten ridiculous. No one wants to work, though...
Brickhead92@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 270d
Damn! I wanted to use it.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 270d
Put in a random github page and explain in the interview.
potpotato@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 270d
bit.ly that redirects to LinkedIn?
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · 20 pts · 271d
They almost never ask for my PieFed
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 15 pts · 271d
almost?
The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world · 6 pts · 271d
I don't know if that would help or hurt me with how much I post.
ButteryMonkey@piefed.social · 5 pts · 271d
It shows dedication and willingness to do work toward a community goal :)
ReverendIrreverence@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 270d
"N/A" is the correct answer unless your account happens to be under your real name. "Fuck you, try and find it" is what you should be thinking.
bytesonbike@discuss.online · 2 pts · 269d
I was so proud when I read about teenagers who have a named social account and their "secondary" real account, because their schools required access to track them.
RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 271d
Someone should make rickroll versions of those accounts.
bitwolf@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 271d
So to get the job do I have to create these accounts?
waitmarks@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 271d
I would just put “N/A” in each box. they probably won’t contact me anyway so whatever.
s@piefed.world · 17 pts · 271d
I can really only see this if you’re applying for a social media or influencer related position or if you have a portfolio of related work that would be published on those sites. Otherwise, even as far as most background checks go, it’s too invasive and very presumptuous.
owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 271d
Required
Rhaedas@fedia.io · 13 pts · 271d
If they're asking for them, they don't know what they are. Therefore they don't exist.
If they require you to make one to fill it out, then there are other jobs out there.
bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 271d
No way I'd ever fill it out for any position I would apply for, but it could be that this position is for a Social Media manager or something directly related to showing these accounts, like how an artist has a portfolio they bring to an interview. Not sure if that's legal wherever this job is, but this could be a semi-rational reason to ask for this.
khepri@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 271d
This is some SCS bullshit if I've ever seen it. Boycott any business you see aski9ng for this, straight up.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 271d
And the star indicating they are mandatory? What if i don't use that junk?
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 271d
They only want to hire proven procrastinators and narcissists.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 271d
Yeah, looks like it. Or they monitor those accounts during office login time in case you post something while you are supposed to work your ass off.
TheCynicalSaint@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 270d
What the Hell happens if you have neither?
krooklochurm@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 269d
Either you:
PieMePlenty@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 269d
"I have no social media because I devote all my free time to my job."
krooklochurm@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 269d
Jfc
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 269d
tounga@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 271d
most of them are fake/ghost jobs...
Simulation6@sopuli.xyz · 11 pts · 271d
I run into mandatory mobile phone number inputs in on-line forms from time to time. While I do have a cell phone now, I don't use it a lot and don't have the number memorized. If I enter my land line # or a fake #, they will still send texts to the number.
ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 270d
Some places are verifying the number is registered with a mobile provider too. I have a home VOIP line that accepts texts and I can send them too, and I use it when I don't want to give out my cell #. Some sites won't take it though, knowing it's not a cell carrier. Some won't take Google Voice numbers either.
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net · 10 pts · 270d
I love (read: hate) the ones that have a lengthy survey, full of questions and repeats to gauge your priorities by forcing you to choose one thing over another. Ive gotten such gems as, "Would you rather: 1) ensure that customers leave satisfied and happy; or 2) have a good work-life balance?"
Heikki2@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 270d
What if you don't have an account?
PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 270d
I live in California. This is illegal.
bytesonbike@discuss.online · 8 pts · 270d
I lived in a "purple" city and constantly dealt with illegal application requests.
Its only illegal if companies actually get punished. But nah, not when you have a man in the white house who can touch little girls and gargle presidential balls and nothing happens.
wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 270d
Let's be very clear: only one of those two sexual acts is illegal. The other one is just hilarious proof that we live in the most stupid timeline.
bytesonbike@discuss.online · 1 pts · 269d
Ah thanks for clarifying. I noticed I did write it that way implying the throating a president is against the law. My mistake. Knob jobs on politicians when done consensually is alright in my book.
dil@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 269d
This is the type of thing you get 40$ randomly from by signing up for the class action
dil@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 269d
Someone use ai for good so we can auto apply to all class actions
Aneb@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 271d
Hey, I don't want ruffle anyone's feathers but should your life be more than just social media. I never post about my life online because its mine and only I get to experience the joys and sorrows that it entertains. Comparing yourself to the twit behind a keyboard is kinda lame
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 270d
These days I get my fix through the fediverse and otherwise try to enjoy the real world
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 270d
They want to check you accounts, for reasons.
electric_nan@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 270d
@not_applicable
Wilco@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 271d
At least they aren't asking for your Only Fans.
tomkatt@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 271d
...yet.
MML@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 271d
Long as they subscribe
nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 270d
Indeed, they do.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 270d
It's almost like they understand that access to basic necessities is gatekeeped away from the people. Accept or suffer
ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 271d
Perhaps they want to make sure they don’t rule you out over someone with the same name.