ACAB but expressed in USB connector types (that funky shaped one on the right was a short lived USB connector type B). I only had like one peripheral, a scanner, that used it.
EDIT: Lots of people pointing me to printers and music gear with those ports! I dabble in music and my little korg nanoKEY2 uses mini USB. And I've not bought a new printer in over a decade (laser printer toner lasts forever). I think I unintentionally invoked Cunningham's Law here
Yeah I always call it the printer USB port. I wonder why it’s so popular there? Maybe it’s the USB connector that is hardest to break or pull off by accident?
My understanding it's the other end of a one way USB cable. Normally the cable is attached like your mouse or keyboard, or commonly these days USB C, but if you are plugging in USB and it's not USB C but the cable unplugs at either end, one will be USB A and the other USB B so you can't put it in backwards like you could if they both has USB A.
Early android smart phones used USB B micro or mini, but printers have no need to keep the plug small.
Yeah, C had two major innovations: it was symmetrically functional, and it was symmetrically functional. Everybody knows about how A was kinda a pain because you'd try to plug it in upside down a lot, but A also was unidirectional. You never see male A to male A cables despite A being so common, meanwhile C to C is the default C cable, even things that would have used an integrated cord often just slap a port on instead
Every monitor with a USB hub and every printer I’ve owned for the last 20 years has had one. It’s used to differentiate USB directionality, for example which side is upstream or the “host device” and which side is meant to plug into the computer.
They’re moot now with USB C which is bidirectional; USB-A male to USB-A male is dangerous and not compliant with the USB specification, so they’d use USB-B on one side.
In case anyone thinks you're being figurative, LITERALLY brand new printers. The Brother laser I bought last week is USB-B, as I expected it would be : )
This replaced the HP laser I bought in 2004 which was, of course, also USB-B.
Why change? It does the job. The cable doesn't need to pass audio or video, doesn't need to pass fast charge power, and sure as hell doesn't need 80Gbps data transfer speeds... the bottleneck will always be the print function itself. Usb-c would be overkill. And Usb-b is made to be secured to prevent accidental disconnection for devices that typically dont move like printers and scanners, unlike Usb-c which is made for repeated insertions and easy release for devices like smart phones. Only reason the connector might change in the future is if they either start adding stupid features to printers or if it simply becomes cheaper to support newer standards.
Also some screens still use that one to act as an USB hub for the PC. There's also a variant that is a but taller, but I don't know what that type is for.
The tall bit on top of the type-B houses the five extra electrical connections that were added with USB 3.0.
Maybe you've seen the same on type micro-B which gets a little extra side car. Same story there, the same five connections were added on the side.
In a type-A connector they are in a second row deeper in the plug, you can see them if you look in, behind and offset by half to the classic four in front.
These three plug designs all allow the old USB 2.0 type-A, type-B and type micro-B plugs to fit in new USB 3.0 holes, they will simply make contact only with the classical four pins and work as USB 2.0 then.
I don't think I've ever owned a printer that had USB-B that didn't also have Ethernet. The last time I hooked a printer directly to a computer instead of to the network, it was using a parallel port.
I think that was the last time I used a SCSI port printer with our family Mac. I know PCs hung on to parallel a little longer, but my first a win 98 machine had usb and a custom scsi port for my scanner and Zip drive (before I got an ATA internal Zip).
Same. Music gear (although my recent stuff has started going C), printers and scanners since USB became a standard, older networking hardware, older external hard drives (most of them before USB 3.0), and every piece of medical equipment I've ever dealt with. It was ubiquitous from the time USB started in the 90s until USB C got popular after 2014.
Well, the good news is that it wasn't really popular in 2014. It probably didn't become popular until about 7-8 years ago and that was thanks to smartphones.
You're right as far as devices go, I was just adding a year or two because most people don't switch phones immediately at release.
The other side of that is I'm probably a little biased because I was using the weird usb-b 3.0 micro connector (the long ass one) until a couple of years ago on external drives until it got too painful to open up my sample libraries on spinning platters.
So maybe 9 years ago and my view is colored? Or between 7 and 9 years ago depending on how you're measuring popularity?
Not short lived at all, it's literally one of the three standard connectors alongside A and C. USB is an inherently directional protocol, so one side if the host device and the other is the peripheral device. The difference between Type A and B plugs helped enforce that directionality. Prior to the C connector becoming the new standard regardless of direction, all USB cables had both a Type-A and Type-B connector. (A to A cables violate the spec, and are an abomination).
The miniUSB and microUSB connectors are both Type-B connectors, just physically smaller to accommodate smaller peripheral devices. There's also technically a mini-A and micro-A, but they're very uncommon since host devices are usually large enough for a full size plug, and now USB 3.0+ Type-C connections don't require a directional cable the same way.
I have a bunch of USB hubs that plug into a USB-A outlet and then give you USB-A outlets. Are these not cursed because they're a hub?
I also have a switchable USB hub from Amazon that lets you send your USB hub outlets to one out of four host devices. I use this to be able to have my mouse and keyboard plugged into my desktop or switch it to my laptop, if I have my laptop plugged into a USB dock.
That switchable USB hub uses USB-A to USB-A cables to connect the hub to the host devices. What cable should it use instead for this purpose? USB A to USB B? And the hub would have four USB-B inputs on the back?
So far the only downside I've seen is that the keyboard and mouse don't work super well in the UEFI screen maybe one time in 20. And sometimes the keyboard would disconnect in other contexts, but that seems to have resolved itself.
I'm assuming for the $100+ the real one better be reliable.
What cable should it use instead for this purpose? USB A to USB B? And the hub would have four USB-B inputs on the back?
Yes. I have an older model of this one, which only connects to two computers, but this is even cheaper and connects to four. If you absolutely need USB 3, this one is only a little more expensive than yours and is built correctly.
USB 1.x type B definitely wasn't short lived, I've picked up new devices with a B connector in recent years.
The B connector you pretty much never see is the USB 2.0 one. Pretty much all devices I've seen use the wide version of USB Micro-B or, you know, USB C.
As others have pointed out, B is still well in use today. But it seems nobody mentioned why: it's because an A to A cable would be nonstandard and since there was no c yet, it's the a to b cables. C to c is okay and there are funky A to A things which shouldn't exist.
I think the people getting this are in a strong minority. Most people don't know that the archetypical USB port is called USB-A, and most people don't even interact with USB-B at all
Most people don't know that the archetypical USB port is called USB-A, and most people don't even interact with USB-B at all
Perhaps most people on the street. I would wager the average citizens understanding of, idk, Star Trek, Linux and also USB-ports is a smidgeon lower than the average Lemmings understanding of them, on average.
That's because the endpoint device is supposed to have some manner of type B port (full sized, mini, micro) to denote that it is not a host device. Endpoint devices should not have a type A port for input, because double ended type A cables are not technically supposed to exist.
(Even though they self-evidently do, USB specs be damned. I have a flashlight that came with one, and its charging port is a full sized type A port. Using the cable it came with to plug two host devices together would be a bad idea and probably result in smoke.)
The average person I know thinks of USB-B as "that squarish one." The existence of the differently shaped USB-B 3.0 doesn't help with this. Micro USB 3.0 also really throws people for a loop.
I have used 4.
But 1 of them hadn't implemented the USB 3.0 correctly in firmware, so it only worked well if I connected a micro USB 2.0, so I guess it's 3 for me too.
I wonder if some rogue hardware designer could justify this port layout on some mass-produced commercial device, distributing the message to unsuspecting buyers.
Printers (the most common USB-B device nowadays) could use USB-C for power. They never need more than one USB-A, though (and in the rare use cases the user can supply a hub if supported in software; also that tends to be on the front).
Over exaggerated counter example: I guess not all concentration camp guards were evil, wicked people, yet they still participated in a wicked, evil system that oppressed, incarcerated, enslaved and killed people.
Which makes them evil, wicked people.
You do not have to be a bad person or do evil yourself to be a bastard. Your support or even acceptance of a bad system is enough.
Which means all cops are bastards through their participation.
Yes, even the guards who treat the prisoners well and really try to make life easier for them are still part of a machine that kills and help perpetuate the system.
Doesn't mean we don't need those who try to change the system, but at some point you have to recognize that much of modern policing is undeniably broken and is basically unfixable from within and by reform alone.
At some point you gotta tear it all down, get rid of the spoiled bunch and rebuild from the ground up using the good apples and putting in place better mechanisms to effectively weed out the bad ones.
And my personal opinion is that this will never stop. Institutional power will try to isolate the institution from criticism and consequence, so from time to time these institutions have to be replaced. Human nature will always find the loopholes, the easy way, the trick to feel oneself powerful and superior. And so after some decades... everything will be borked again.
This is imho sadly the reality of the statistics of jobs that come with power over others and the kind of people this power attracts more strongly than it does the people you'd actually want in such a job.
... In the US. And yes, reform is required. Alot of bad cops need to go. More need extended retaining and some need promotion and more control. Police is traditionally to protect and serve, that should be reemphasized.
This is like saying there are "good" Trump supporters. There are people who don't believe or realize they're fascists, but that doesn't excuse their fascism. The net result on society is negative, so they are all objectively "bad".
And, as the recent FBI agent quitting over being forced to switch a murder investigation into something is not for politics, there are no good cops. There are bad cops and cops that quit the force. Good people don't seek the rush of shooting others.
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okwhateverdude@lemmy.world · 155 pts · 204d
ACAB but expressed in USB connector types (that funky shaped one on the right was a short lived USB connector type B). I only had like one peripheral, a scanner, that used it.
EDIT: Lots of people pointing me to printers and music gear with those ports! I dabble in music and my little korg nanoKEY2 uses mini USB. And I've not bought a new printer in over a decade (laser printer toner lasts forever). I think I unintentionally invoked Cunningham's Law here
breadsmasher@lemmy.world · 138 pts · 204d
A printer I bought two years ago, a DAC a month ago. Its definitely not short lived
superfes@lemmy.world · 73 pts · 204d
Yeah, AFAIK all printers still have these
Pechente@feddit.org · 24 pts · 204d
Yeah I always call it the printer USB port. I wonder why it’s so popular there? Maybe it’s the USB connector that is hardest to break or pull off by accident?
Dave@lemmy.nz · 25 pts · 204d
My understanding it's the other end of a one way USB cable. Normally the cable is attached like your mouse or keyboard, or commonly these days USB C, but if you are plugging in USB and it's not USB C but the cable unplugs at either end, one will be USB A and the other USB B so you can't put it in backwards like you could if they both has USB A.
Early android smart phones used USB B micro or mini, but printers have no need to keep the plug small.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 204d
Yeah, C had two major innovations: it was symmetrically functional, and it was symmetrically functional. Everybody knows about how A was kinda a pain because you'd try to plug it in upside down a lot, but A also was unidirectional. You never see male A to male A cables despite A being so common, meanwhile C to C is the default C cable, even things that would have used an integrated cord often just slap a port on instead
grue@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 204d
Yeah, pretty much. Printers and scanners are kinda the only common devices big enough not to need to use a more fragile mini-B or micro-B.
(There are certainly other more niche "big" devices that also use it: the MIDI connection on my digital piano, for instance.)
PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de · 15 pts · 204d
A screen I bought recently has this for the integrated USB hub, I think?
picnicolas@slrpnk.net · 14 pts · 204d
Every monitor with a USB hub and every printer I’ve owned for the last 20 years has had one. It’s used to differentiate USB directionality, for example which side is upstream or the “host device” and which side is meant to plug into the computer.
They’re moot now with USB C which is bidirectional; USB-A male to USB-A male is dangerous and not compliant with the USB specification, so they’d use USB-B on one side.
okwhateverdude@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 204d
Wild, TIL.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 204d
So short lived you can still find it on brand new printers
clif@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 204d
In case anyone thinks you're being figurative, LITERALLY brand new printers. The Brother laser I bought last week is USB-B, as I expected it would be : )
This replaced the HP laser I bought in 2004 which was, of course, also USB-B.
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 204d
Why change? It does the job. The cable doesn't need to pass audio or video, doesn't need to pass fast charge power, and sure as hell doesn't need 80Gbps data transfer speeds... the bottleneck will always be the print function itself. Usb-c would be overkill. And Usb-b is made to be secured to prevent accidental disconnection for devices that typically dont move like printers and scanners, unlike Usb-c which is made for repeated insertions and easy release for devices like smart phones. Only reason the connector might change in the future is if they either start adding stupid features to printers or if it simply becomes cheaper to support newer standards.
Omgpwnies@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 203d
That and if you're replacing a printer, you can just use the existing plugs as-is; no need to go fishing behind your PC to swap out the USB cable.
Blemgo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 203d
Also some screens still use that one to act as an USB hub for the PC. There's also a variant that is a but taller, but I don't know what that type is for.
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 203d
The tall ones are just the USB 3.0 version
The tall bit on top of the type-B houses the five extra electrical connections that were added with USB 3.0.
Maybe you've seen the same on type micro-B which gets a little extra side car. Same story there, the same five connections were added on the side.
In a type-A connector they are in a second row deeper in the plug, you can see them if you look in, behind and offset by half to the classic four in front.
These three plug designs all allow the old USB 2.0 type-A, type-B and type micro-B plugs to fit in new USB 3.0 holes, they will simply make contact only with the classical four pins and work as USB 2.0 then.
PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 204d
Every printer for the past 20 years has used USB B
Crozekiel@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 203d
Hell, even my 3d printer connects to a computer via USB B, if you want/need to connect directly to it.
grue@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 204d
I don't think I've ever owned a printer that had USB-B that didn't also have Ethernet. The last time I hooked a printer directly to a computer instead of to the network, it was using a parallel port.
Tikiporch@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 204d
This guy doesn't connect.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 203d
At least not for almost 30 years.
I think that was the last time I used a SCSI port printer with our family Mac. I know PCs hung on to parallel a little longer, but my first a win 98 machine had usb and a custom scsi port for my scanner and Zip drive (before I got an ATA internal Zip).
9point6@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 204d
Anything non-portable that you plug in to a computer with a USB-A connection is supposed to have a USB-B on the other end if the cable is removable.
I have a lot of music gear with USB-B connectors on them
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 204d
And then you have the cursed non standard USB A to USB A
Zikeji@programming.dev · 4 pts · 204d
My cheap knockoff elgato has that and it still creeps me out when I use it lol.
TexasDrunk@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 204d
Same. Music gear (although my recent stuff has started going C), printers and scanners since USB became a standard, older networking hardware, older external hard drives (most of them before USB 3.0), and every piece of medical equipment I've ever dealt with. It was ubiquitous from the time USB started in the 90s until USB C got popular after 2014.
9point6@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 204d
Nonono, USB-C isn't over a decade old.....
....
TexasDrunk@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 204d
Well, the good news is that it wasn't really popular in 2014. It probably didn't become popular until about 7-8 years ago and that was thanks to smartphones.
kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 204d
The Nexus 6P had it in 2015. Samsung was one of the last to switch over, and they still did in 2017. I'd say closer to 9 years ago.
TexasDrunk@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 204d
You're right as far as devices go, I was just adding a year or two because most people don't switch phones immediately at release.
The other side of that is I'm probably a little biased because I was using the weird usb-b 3.0 micro connector (the long ass one) until a couple of years ago on external drives until it got too painful to open up my sample libraries on spinning platters.
So maybe 9 years ago and my view is colored? Or between 7 and 9 years ago depending on how you're measuring popularity?
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 204d
Yeah my 2021 hearing aids were microusb and that's late enough I was annoyed but not surprised. I'm due for a new pair this year and they better be C.
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social · 28 pts · 204d
Not short lived at all, it's literally one of the three standard connectors alongside A and C. USB is an inherently directional protocol, so one side if the host device and the other is the peripheral device. The difference between Type A and B plugs helped enforce that directionality. Prior to the C connector becoming the new standard regardless of direction, all USB cables had both a Type-A and Type-B connector. (A to A cables violate the spec, and are an abomination).
The miniUSB and microUSB connectors are both Type-B connectors, just physically smaller to accommodate smaller peripheral devices. There's also technically a mini-A and micro-A, but they're very uncommon since host devices are usually large enough for a full size plug, and now USB 3.0+ Type-C connections don't require a directional cable the same way.
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 204d
I have a bunch of USB hubs that plug into a USB-A outlet and then give you USB-A outlets. Are these not cursed because they're a hub?
I also have a switchable USB hub from Amazon that lets you send your USB hub outlets to one out of four host devices. I use this to be able to have my mouse and keyboard plugged into my desktop or switch it to my laptop, if I have my laptop plugged into a USB dock.
That switchable USB hub uses USB-A to USB-A cables to connect the hub to the host devices. What cable should it use instead for this purpose? USB A to USB B? And the hub would have four USB-B inputs on the back?
To answer my own question, here is a expensive version of what I'm talking about, which uses USB-A to USB-B. https://www.startech.com/en-us/usb-hubs/hbs304a24a
And here is the cheap version I have from Amazon, over $100 cheaper which uses the cursed cable... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CHY8L11W/
grue@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 204d
The "cursed" thing is a male-A to male-A cable. A hub is fine because it's male-A to female-A
tyra@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 204d
Is there any risk of using the cheap A to A version?
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 204d
So far the only downside I've seen is that the keyboard and mouse don't work super well in the UEFI screen maybe one time in 20. And sometimes the keyboard would disconnect in other contexts, but that seems to have resolved itself.
I'm assuming for the $100+ the real one better be reliable.
kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 204d
Not inherently, but if you or someone else plugs one of those cables into the wrong ports, you could lose a USB controller.
kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 204d
Yes. I have an older model of this one, which only connects to two computers, but this is even cheaper and connects to four. If you absolutely need USB 3, this one is only a little more expensive than yours and is built correctly.
umbraroze@slrpnk.net · 17 pts · 204d
USB 1.x type B definitely wasn't short lived, I've picked up new devices with a B connector in recent years.
The B connector you pretty much never see is the USB 2.0 one. Pretty much all devices I've seen use the wide version of USB Micro-B or, you know, USB C.
4aceb14e@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 204d
Are you thinking of the USB 3.0 versions of Type B? 1.0 and 2.0 should be pretty much indistinguishable.
umbraroze@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 204d
Right, that one. Sorry
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 204d
ACAB: All Connectors Are Beautiful
fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 203d
Except that ugly "Lightning" one, flashing its pins all over outwards like a slag.
zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 204d
Wait until you learn about USB 3 with connector type B.
PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 204d
And of course USB 3 micro B, the mangled step child.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 204d
This needs to be a Gilbert and Sullivan operetta.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 204d
Such an ugly connector
zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 204d
It’s my favorite one.
not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 204d
usb microphone, usb audio interface, midi keyboard, printer they all use it
Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 204d
USB B is still standard with audio hardware for some reason.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 204d
Because it's not short lived, it has a niche use. Basically its meant for receptor devices, whereas A is for host devices
Strider@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 203d
As others have pointed out, B is still well in use today. But it seems nobody mentioned why: it's because an A to A cable would be nonstandard and since there was no c yet, it's the a to b cables. C to c is okay and there are funky A to A things which shouldn't exist.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 204d
ch00f@lemmy.world · 62 pts · 204d
Suuuubtle. Love it.
stoy@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 204d
Is it supposed to resemble a cop pulling a gun?
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 37 pts · 204d
Nah, It's USB type A, C, A, and B 😉
Enkrod@feddit.org · 6 pts · 203d
So in a way it IS a cop pulling a gun!
Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 204d
That took me a hot second, but I love that!
lauracor@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 203d
Honestly, it’s oddly satisfying how universal those symbols are. You don’t need words—everyone just gets it.
Lauchmelder@feddit.org · 39 pts · 203d
I think the people getting this are in a strong minority. Most people don't know that the archetypical USB port is called USB-A, and most people don't even interact with USB-B at all
Dasus@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 203d
Perhaps most people on the street. I would wager the average citizens understanding of, idk, Star Trek, Linux and also USB-ports is a smidgeon lower than the average Lemmings understanding of them, on average.
Taleya@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 203d
Printers use B...and i don't mean just paper. Most 3D printers, crafting machines (cricut etc) and any form of arduino noodling will use B.
Lauchmelder@feddit.org · 9 pts · 203d
"How did you hook up your printer"
"Idk, the printer cable that was in the box"
"How did you hook up your 3D printer"
"I don't own a 3D printer"
that will be at least 95% of your interactions in that regard
BanMe@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 203d
"How did you hook up your printer?"
"I called my nephew who does something with IT"
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 203d
That's because the endpoint device is supposed to have some manner of type B port (full sized, mini, micro) to denote that it is not a host device. Endpoint devices should not have a type A port for input, because double ended type A cables are not technically supposed to exist.
(Even though they self-evidently do, USB specs be damned. I have a flashlight that came with one, and its charging port is a full sized type A port. Using the cable it came with to plug two host devices together would be a bad idea and probably result in smoke.)
rumba@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 203d
Everyone that was building computers in the 90's and 00's
The best part is that the police would generally not get it.
RichardDegenne@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 203d
A minority, yes, but a worldwide one.
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 21 pts · 203d
Is that a penguin with a Glock?
nailbar@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 203d
Oh yeah! Well now I can't see anything else.
tetris11@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 203d
took me a while, but glad I kept looking
carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 203d
The average person I know thinks of USB-B as "that squarish one." The existence of the differently shaped USB-B 3.0 doesn't help with this. Micro USB 3.0 also really throws people for a loop.
ramenshaman@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 203d
I think I've used maybe 3 devices in my whole life that use micro USB 3.0.
carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 203d
It was common for like five years on external hard drives.
Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 203d
And stupid is, even while you are able to connect 2.0, many disk won’t work properly with it (shows up in PC but file transfer just doesn’t work)
ramenshaman@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 203d
Yeah that was one or two of the three devices
echodot@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 203d
Didn't the PS3 controller use it?
ramenshaman@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 202d
No those were mini-USB
ulterno@programming.dev · 1 pts · 203d
I have used 4.
But 1 of them hadn't implemented the USB 3.0 correctly in firmware, so it only worked well if I connected a micro USB 2.0, so I guess it's 3 for me too.
elcosaltlakrids@feddit.org · 9 pts · 203d
There you go https://black-mosquito.org/de/all-connectors-are-beautiful-aufkleber.html
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 203d
Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr · 6 pts · 204d
That's genius, im stealing this!
one_knight_scripting@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 203d
Why doesn't it at least have USB-A 3.0? One of those ports needs to be blue.
bob_lemon@feddit.org · 6 pts · 203d
Is that the "thin blue line" I keep hearing about?
randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz · 5 pts · 203d
I can't be the only one who thought that this was a cute lil' guy flipping his middle finger right?
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 1 pts · 203d
I wonder if some rogue hardware designer could justify this port layout on some mass-produced commercial device, distributing the message to unsuspecting buyers.
Printers (the most common USB-B device nowadays) could use USB-C for power. They never need more than one USB-A, though (and in the rare use cases the user can supply a hub if supported in software; also that tends to be on the front).
lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 203d
Loss?
undu@discuss.tchncs.de · 15 pts · 203d
No, it's
USB-A
USB-C
USB-A
USB-B
BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz · -18 pts · 204d
I think that “ACAB” is a bad thing, however I have to admit that this is clever
TexasDrunk@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 204d
I think cops are a bad thing and I agree that this is clever.
Nomad@infosec.pub · -9 pts · 204d
Cops are a bad thing... In the US. Also not all cops, even in the US. ;)
Enkrod@feddit.org · 5 pts · 203d
Over exaggerated counter example: I guess not all concentration camp guards were evil, wicked people, yet they still participated in a wicked, evil system that oppressed, incarcerated, enslaved and killed people.
Which makes them evil, wicked people.
You do not have to be a bad person or do evil yourself to be a bastard. Your support or even acceptance of a bad system is enough.
Which means all cops are bastards through their participation.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 203d
Unless the copies start shooting ICE when they attack citizens, I’ll maintain that ACAB.
Nomad@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 203d
Even those trying to change the system from within?
Enkrod@feddit.org · 0 pts · 201d
Yes, even the guards who treat the prisoners well and really try to make life easier for them are still part of a machine that kills and help perpetuate the system.
Doesn't mean we don't need those who try to change the system, but at some point you have to recognize that much of modern policing is undeniably broken and is basically unfixable from within and by reform alone.
At some point you gotta tear it all down, get rid of the spoiled bunch and rebuild from the ground up using the good apples and putting in place better mechanisms to effectively weed out the bad ones.
And my personal opinion is that this will never stop. Institutional power will try to isolate the institution from criticism and consequence, so from time to time these institutions have to be replaced. Human nature will always find the loopholes, the easy way, the trick to feel oneself powerful and superior. And so after some decades... everything will be borked again.
This is imho sadly the reality of the statistics of jobs that come with power over others and the kind of people this power attracts more strongly than it does the people you'd actually want in such a job.
Nomad@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 201d
... In the US. And yes, reform is required. Alot of bad cops need to go. More need extended retaining and some need promotion and more control. Police is traditionally to protect and serve, that should be reemphasized.
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 203d
And yet, their actions say otherwise.
This is like saying there are "good" Trump supporters. There are people who don't believe or realize they're fascists, but that doesn't excuse their fascism. The net result on society is negative, so they are all objectively "bad".
baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de · 14 pts · 204d
ACAB isn't about individual cop's moral qualities, it's about them as a whole institution enforcing unfair systems
dustyData@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 203d
And, as the recent FBI agent quitting over being forced to switch a murder investigation into something is not for politics, there are no good cops. There are bad cops and cops that quit the force. Good people don't seek the rush of shooting others.